Trump Borders on Treason

[Flopper]

Let's look at those bankruptcies

• The Trump Taj Mahal built at a cost of more that a billion dollars housing a over dozen other business with employment of over 3,000 people.
• Trump Plaza Hotel which cost 400 million dollars and employed 800 people.
• Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, a multi-billion dollar enterprise employing thousands.
• Trump Entertainment Resorts, another multi-billion dollar enterprise employing over 3,800.

These are not small business in a large enterprise. These business failures cost creditors hundreds of million and thousands of people lost jobs. For a presidential candidate whose only qualification is his business expertise, this is nothing to be proud of.

So many other issues not to vote for Trump. This isn't one of them. 90% of all businesses fail, that is the nature of business.

That may well be true. However, a candidate for president who uses his business expertise as his sole qualification for the presidency should not have a record of bankruptcies in which he left creditors holding a billion dollars in worthless bonds while he wallows in wealth. Contrary to Trump's claims bankruptcy is not common is large businesses. In fact, no major US company has filed for Chaper 11 more than Trump's casino empire in the last 30 years.

Do you have any idea how many business ventures Trump has? Construction, Entertainment, Real Estate, Hospitality, Diversified Investments, and more.

Each section of his business, has dozens of different business ventures, and in total The Trump organization has over 22,000 employees, not including contract work.

So out of dozens of business ventures that Trump is involved in, you focus on a casino bankruptcy, and a few others. 1 failure for 100 successes. By the way, the casino in Atlantic city, is one of dozens of failing businesses in Atlantic City. The whole city is in trouble.

And of course that qualifies him to be commander in chief of the armed forces, and the leader of the free world, right?

Do tell.... What part of "community organizer" qualified Obama for Commander in Chief of the armed forces, and leader of the free world? The part where he sued Citibank to make bad loans?

The whole reason our founding fathers wanted a limited executive branch, was because they understood that no single individual would ever be supremely qualified in every single aspect of governance.

Which presidency throughout all human history, would you claim was completely qualified in all things? Every aspect of the economy, every aspect of international diplomacy, every aspect of military, every aspect of domestic law, every aspect of race?

Which guy was that perfect?

The fact you even think in these terms, is exactly why we were never supposed to vote on the president. But since you have demand democracy, instead of a republic, then you get what you get.

I noticed you neglect the 10 years he spent as a state and US Senator, his work as teacher of constitutional law, as well as his education at the Harvard School Law and President of the Harvard Law Review and prefer to concentrate on the 3 years he worked part time as a community organizer.

Do you really think Trump's skills in filing military deferments qualify him as Commander and Chief, his dozens of law suits against those that disrespect him has given him in depth knowledge of our constitution and laws, his time spent golfing and selling property around the world has given him a firm foundation in geopolitics. The fact is Donald Trump is well qualified to run a property development and real estate firm. If we ever need a president to develop resorts and casinos, Trump's the man.

 

[Papageorgio]

The point is that Trump uses his business experience as qualifications for the presidency but yet his business experience is not that exceptional. Granted he has been able to use bankruptcy laws to protect his fortune while his creditors lose hundreds of millions of dollars, but I don't see how that makes him qualified to lead the nation, administer the federal government, command the armed forces, decide when it is appropriate to use nuclear weapons, enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. Considering the job the president, I doubt seriously that Trump would hire a person with his background as president.

What makes any politician qualified to represent you or me, or to develop policies, or prepares budget or anything you listed above? On what exactly are based their qualifications?

IMHO, of all the many qualifications a president should possess, political skills and experience have to be near the top. President Woodrow Wilson called campaigning "a great interruption to the rational consideration of public questions.” Today campaigning isn’t an “interruption” but a permanent condition. Indeed, if you are a successful campaigner it’s expected you’ll be a successful president. Just being a great campaigner is not the only thing one needs to be a great president, although many of the skills are exactly what a president needs. There are a number of similarities between the campaigner and the president. Both tasks require the person to perform well under pressure, communicate effectively, and build a team that trusts you and can function with little sleep and lots of stress. Like a successful campaigner the president can't be a one man show. Sometimes we forget that the presidency is a political office but keep in mind politics is a part of every decision a president makes.

The 3 jobs that best prepare a candidate for the presidency are, a state governor, a congressman, and a top level military commander.

The job most closely related to that of president is a state governor. A governor must work with the legislature, prepare budgets, interface with the media, and run a state goverment patterned after the federal goverment. There is no place you can get better job experience in managing the federal government than that of a governor.

One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman.

Lastly, the experience a top level military commander can gain is the best the president can get when he must fulfill his role as commander and chief.

Every president we had has held one of these 3 positions.

The characteristics one should look for in a president are honesty, the ability to communicate clearly at all times without anyone having to explain what the president meant, and demonstrated leadership ability. A president should not be prone to exaggeration nor understating a situation. He needs a strong will but also a large dose of humility.

One could go on forever about desirable qualification for president.

Good points, my issue, is Clinton nor Trump seem humble or honest. Both are prone to exaggeration. Both seem to be reactive to a situation and not patient.

Really good insights.


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[TheProgressivePatriot]

The point is that Trump uses his business experience as qualifications for the presidency but yet his business experience is not that exceptional. Granted he has been able to use bankruptcy laws to protect his fortune while his creditors lose hundreds of millions of dollars, but I don't see how that makes him qualified to lead the nation, administer the federal government, command the armed forces, decide when it is appropriate to use nuclear weapons, enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. Considering the job the president, I doubt seriously that Trump would hire a person with his background as president.

What makes any politician qualified to represent you or me, or to develop policies, or prepares budget or anything you listed above? On what exactly are based their qualifications?

IMHO, of all the many qualifications a president should possess, political skills and experience have to be near the top. President Woodrow Wilson called campaigning "a great interruption to the rational consideration of public questions.” Today campaigning isn’t an “interruption” but a permanent condition. Indeed, if you are a successful campaigner it’s expected you’ll be a successful president. Just being a great campaigner is not the only thing one needs to be a great president, although many of the skills are exactly what a president needs. There are a number of similarities between the campaigner and the president. Both tasks require the person to perform well under pressure, communicate effectively, and build a team that trusts you and can function with little sleep and lots of stress. Like a successful campaigner the president can't be a one man show. Sometimes we forget that the presidency is a political office but keep in mind politics is a part of every decision a president makes.

The 3 jobs that best prepare a candidate for the presidency are, a state governor, a congressman, and a top level military commander.

The job most closely related to that of president is a state governor. A governor must work with the legislature, prepare budgets, interface with the media, and run a state goverment patterned after the federal goverment. There is no place you can get better job experience in managing the federal government than that of a governor.

One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman.

Lastly, the experience a top level military commander can gain is the best the president can get when he must fulfill his role as commander and chief.

Every president we had has held one of these 3 positions.

The characteristics one should look for in a president are honesty, the ability to communicate clearly at all times without anyone having to explain what the president meant, and demonstrated leadership ability. A president should not be prone to exaggeration nor understating a situation. He needs a strong will but also a large dose of humility.

One could go on forever about desirable qualification for president.

Good points, my issue, is Clinton nor Trump seem humble or honest. Both are prone to exaggeration. Both seem to be reactive to a situation and not patient.

Really good insights.


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But only one will blow up the economy and possibly the world

 

[Papageorgio]

The point is that Trump uses his business experience as qualifications for the presidency but yet his business experience is not that exceptional. Granted he has been able to use bankruptcy laws to protect his fortune while his creditors lose hundreds of millions of dollars, but I don't see how that makes him qualified to lead the nation, administer the federal government, command the armed forces, decide when it is appropriate to use nuclear weapons, enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. Considering the job the president, I doubt seriously that Trump would hire a person with his background as president.

What makes any politician qualified to represent you or me, or to develop policies, or prepares budget or anything you listed above? On what exactly are based their qualifications?

IMHO, of all the many qualifications a president should possess, political skills and experience have to be near the top. President Woodrow Wilson called campaigning "a great interruption to the rational consideration of public questions.” Today campaigning isn’t an “interruption” but a permanent condition. Indeed, if you are a successful campaigner it’s expected you’ll be a successful president. Just being a great campaigner is not the only thing one needs to be a great president, although many of the skills are exactly what a president needs. There are a number of similarities between the campaigner and the president. Both tasks require the person to perform well under pressure, communicate effectively, and build a team that trusts you and can function with little sleep and lots of stress. Like a successful campaigner the president can't be a one man show. Sometimes we forget that the presidency is a political office but keep in mind politics is a part of every decision a president makes.

The 3 jobs that best prepare a candidate for the presidency are, a state governor, a congressman, and a top level military commander.

The job most closely related to that of president is a state governor. A governor must work with the legislature, prepare budgets, interface with the media, and run a state goverment patterned after the federal goverment. There is no place you can get better job experience in managing the federal government than that of a governor.

One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman.

Lastly, the experience a top level military commander can gain is the best the president can get when he must fulfill his role as commander and chief.

Every president we had has held one of these 3 positions.

The characteristics one should look for in a president are honesty, the ability to communicate clearly at all times without anyone having to explain what the president meant, and demonstrated leadership ability. A president should not be prone to exaggeration nor understating a situation. He needs a strong will but also a large dose of humility.

One could go on forever about desirable qualification for president.

Good points, my issue, is Clinton nor Trump seem humble or honest. Both are prone to exaggeration. Both seem to be reactive to a situation and not patient.

Really good insights.


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But only one will blow up the economy and possibly the world

That's the chance you have to take when you vote for Clinton.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Why The New Child Rape Case Filed Against Donald Trump Should Not Be Ignored

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-b..._10619944.html

 

[Andylusion]

So many other issues not to vote for Trump. This isn't one of them. 90% of all businesses fail, that is the nature of business.

That may well be true. However, a candidate for president who uses his business expertise as his sole qualification for the presidency should not have a record of bankruptcies in which he left creditors holding a billion dollars in worthless bonds while he wallows in wealth. Contrary to Trump's claims bankruptcy is not common is large businesses. In fact, no major US company has filed for Chaper 11 more than Trump's casino empire in the last 30 years.

Do you have any idea how many business ventures Trump has? Construction, Entertainment, Real Estate, Hospitality, Diversified Investments, and more.

Each section of his business, has dozens of different business ventures, and in total The Trump organization has over 22,000 employees, not including contract work.

So out of dozens of business ventures that Trump is involved in, you focus on a casino bankruptcy, and a few others. 1 failure for 100 successes. By the way, the casino in Atlantic city, is one of dozens of failing businesses in Atlantic City. The whole city is in trouble.

And of course that qualifies him to be commander in chief of the armed forces, and the leader of the free world, right?

Do tell.... What part of "community organizer" qualified Obama for Commander in Chief of the armed forces, and leader of the free world? The part where he sued Citibank to make bad loans?

The whole reason our founding fathers wanted a limited executive branch, was because they understood that no single individual would ever be supremely qualified in every single aspect of governance.

Which presidency throughout all human history, would you claim was completely qualified in all things? Every aspect of the economy, every aspect of international diplomacy, every aspect of military, every aspect of domestic law, every aspect of race?

Which guy was that perfect?

The fact you even think in these terms, is exactly why we were never supposed to vote on the president. But since you have demand democracy, instead of a republic, then you get what you get.

I noticed you neglect the 10 years he spent as a state and US Senator, his work as teacher of constitutional law, as well as his education at the Harvard School Law and President of the Harvard Law Review and prefer to concentrate on the 3 years he worked part time as a community organizer.

Do you really think Trump's skills in filing military deferments qualify him as Commander and Chief, his dozens of law suits against those that disrespect him has given him in depth knowledge of our constitution and laws, his time spent golfing and selling property around the world has given him a firm foundation in geopolitics. The fact is Donald Trump is well qualified to run a property development and real estate firm. If we ever need a president to develop resorts and casinos, Trump's the man.

I'll take real world experience, over an ivory tower of imbeciles, any day.

You think that working as a teacher, or working as a lawyer, qualifies you for Commander and Chief?

Bull crap. Facing the harsh realities of the real world, where you don't get paid by tax payers regardless of if you win or lose, and where you don't get tenure to talk to students with no risk of failure.... that's worth more than anything Obama did.

Depth of knowledge of what? How to write an 'affordable care act' that made care less affordable? How to stimulate the economy for $Trillions of dollars, and end up with higher rates of unemployment than the worst imaged outcome, and dragging it out for years longer than was ever estimated?

So he can get a peace prize, and then bomb Syria, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen and Afghanistan?

I'm more comfortable with a president, who knows he doesn't know it all, and has a list of advisors, than I am with one who claims to know it all, and clearly has proven he doesn't.

 

[Flopper]

That may well be true. However, a candidate for president who uses his business expertise as his sole qualification for the presidency should not have a record of bankruptcies in which he left creditors holding a billion dollars in worthless bonds while he wallows in wealth. Contrary to Trump's claims bankruptcy is not common is large businesses. In fact, no major US company has filed for Chaper 11 more than Trump's casino empire in the last 30 years.

Do you have any idea how many business ventures Trump has? Construction, Entertainment, Real Estate, Hospitality, Diversified Investments, and more.

Each section of his business, has dozens of different business ventures, and in total The Trump organization has over 22,000 employees, not including contract work.

So out of dozens of business ventures that Trump is involved in, you focus on a casino bankruptcy, and a few others. 1 failure for 100 successes. By the way, the casino in Atlantic city, is one of dozens of failing businesses in Atlantic City. The whole city is in trouble.

And of course that qualifies him to be commander in chief of the armed forces, and the leader of the free world, right?

Do tell.... What part of "community organizer" qualified Obama for Commander in Chief of the armed forces, and leader of the free world? The part where he sued Citibank to make bad loans?

The whole reason our founding fathers wanted a limited executive branch, was because they understood that no single individual would ever be supremely qualified in every single aspect of governance.

Which presidency throughout all human history, would you claim was completely qualified in all things? Every aspect of the economy, every aspect of international diplomacy, every aspect of military, every aspect of domestic law, every aspect of race?

Which guy was that perfect?

The fact you even think in these terms, is exactly why we were never supposed to vote on the president. But since you have demand democracy, instead of a republic, then you get what you get.

I noticed you neglect the 10 years he spent as a state and US Senator, his work as teacher of constitutional law, as well as his education at the Harvard School Law and President of the Harvard Law Review and prefer to concentrate on the 3 years he worked part time as a community organizer.

Do you really think Trump's skills in filing military deferments qualify him as Commander and Chief, his dozens of law suits against those that disrespect him has given him in depth knowledge of our constitution and laws, his time spent golfing and selling property around the world has given him a firm foundation in geopolitics. The fact is Donald Trump is well qualified to run a property development and real estate firm. If we ever need a president to develop resorts and casinos, Trump's the man.

I'll take real world experience, over an ivory tower of imbeciles, any day.

You think that working as a teacher, or working as a lawyer, qualifies you for Commander and Chief?

Bull crap. Facing the harsh realities of the real world, where you don't get paid by tax payers regardless of if you win or lose, and where you don't get tenure to talk to students with no risk of failure.... that's worth more than anything Obama did.

Depth of knowledge of what? How to write an 'affordable care act' that made care less affordable? How to stimulate the economy for $Trillions of dollars, and end up with higher rates of unemployment than the worst imaged outcome, and dragging it out for years longer than was ever estimated?

So he can get a peace prize, and then bomb Syria, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen and Afghanistan?

I'm more comfortable with a president, who knows he doesn't know it all, and has a list of advisors, than I am with one who claims to know it all, and clearly has proven he doesn't.

I hate to break the news to you but the job of the president is political from the day he takes office to the day he leaves. Every decision he makes will be political. If it make sense to you to put someone in the office that is a political neophyte, with no understanding of how the government and congress actually work, and has to look in the dictionary for definition of geopolitics, then you have no idea what the job of the president really entails.

Understanding the cultures, the history and driving forces of our allies and enemies, an understanding of American foreign policy, it's successes and failures, a knowledge of the personalities, and key issues for members of congress, an understating of government fiscal policy, monetary policy, and finance, a basic knowledge of our laws and how they relate to the constitution, and a working knowledge of the components of the executives branch are critical to the work of the president. This is the real world experience and knowledge anyone applying for the president's job needs. It's impossible for any president to have all the knowledge and experience he needs, but for a person to come to the office with nothing he needs is a hell of problem.

Donald Trump's experience developing and managing real estate is about as applicable to the job of the president as the experience of Joe the plumber.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The point is that Trump uses his business experience as qualifications for the presidency but yet his business experience is not that exceptional. Granted he has been able to use bankruptcy laws to protect his fortune while his creditors lose hundreds of millions of dollars, but I don't see how that makes him qualified to lead the nation, administer the federal government, command the armed forces, decide when it is appropriate to use nuclear weapons, enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. Considering the job the president, I doubt seriously that Trump would hire a person with his background as president.

What makes any politician qualified to represent you or me, or to develop policies, or prepares budget or anything you listed above? On what exactly are based their qualifications?

IMHO, of all the many qualifications a president should possess, political skills and experience have to be near the top. President Woodrow Wilson called campaigning "a great interruption to the rational consideration of public questions.” Today campaigning isn’t an “interruption” but a permanent condition. Indeed, if you are a successful campaigner it’s expected you’ll be a successful president. Just being a great campaigner is not the only thing one needs to be a great president, although many of the skills are exactly what a president needs. There are a number of similarities between the campaigner and the president. Both tasks require the person to perform well under pressure, communicate effectively, and build a team that trusts you and can function with little sleep and lots of stress. Like a successful campaigner the president can't be a one man show. Sometimes we forget that the presidency is a political office but keep in mind politics is a part of every decision a president makes.

The 3 jobs that best prepare a candidate for the presidency are, a state governor, a congressman, and a top level military commander.

The job most closely related to that of president is a state governor. A governor must work with the legislature, prepare budgets, interface with the media, and run a state goverment patterned after the federal goverment. There is no place you can get better job experience in managing the federal government than that of a governor.

One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman.

Lastly, the experience a top level military commander can gain is the best the president can get when he must fulfill his role as commander and chief.

Every president we had has held one of these 3 positions.

The characteristics one should look for in a president are honesty, the ability to communicate clearly at all times without anyone having to explain what the president meant, and demonstrated leadership ability. A president should not be prone to exaggeration nor understating a situation. He needs a strong will but also a large dose of humility.

One could go on forever about desirable qualification for president.

political skills and experience have to be near the top.

Please don't tell us that you don't think their is no politics in business?


One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman

When the heck did obama work with congress in the past 7 years? You are joking with us right?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Do you have any idea how many business ventures Trump has? Construction, Entertainment, Real Estate, Hospitality, Diversified Investments, and more.

Each section of his business, has dozens of different business ventures, and in total The Trump organization has over 22,000 employees, not including contract work.

So out of dozens of business ventures that Trump is involved in, you focus on a casino bankruptcy, and a few others. 1 failure for 100 successes. By the way, the casino in Atlantic city, is one of dozens of failing businesses in Atlantic City. The whole city is in trouble.

And of course that qualifies him to be commander in chief of the armed forces, and the leader of the free world, right?

Do tell.... What part of "community organizer" qualified Obama for Commander in Chief of the armed forces, and leader of the free world? The part where he sued Citibank to make bad loans?

The whole reason our founding fathers wanted a limited executive branch, was because they understood that no single individual would ever be supremely qualified in every single aspect of governance.

Which presidency throughout all human history, would you claim was completely qualified in all things? Every aspect of the economy, every aspect of international diplomacy, every aspect of military, every aspect of domestic law, every aspect of race?

Which guy was that perfect?

The fact you even think in these terms, is exactly why we were never supposed to vote on the president. But since you have demand democracy, instead of a republic, then you get what you get.

I noticed you neglect the 10 years he spent as a state and US Senator, his work as teacher of constitutional law, as well as his education at the Harvard School Law and President of the Harvard Law Review and prefer to concentrate on the 3 years he worked part time as a community organizer.

Do you really think Trump's skills in filing military deferments qualify him as Commander and Chief, his dozens of law suits against those that disrespect him has given him in depth knowledge of our constitution and laws, his time spent golfing and selling property around the world has given him a firm foundation in geopolitics. The fact is Donald Trump is well qualified to run a property development and real estate firm. If we ever need a president to develop resorts and casinos, Trump's the man.

I'll take real world experience, over an ivory tower of imbeciles, any day.

You think that working as a teacher, or working as a lawyer, qualifies you for Commander and Chief?

Bull crap. Facing the harsh realities of the real world, where you don't get paid by tax payers regardless of if you win or lose, and where you don't get tenure to talk to students with no risk of failure.... that's worth more than anything Obama did.

Depth of knowledge of what? How to write an 'affordable care act' that made care less affordable? How to stimulate the economy for $Trillions of dollars, and end up with higher rates of unemployment than the worst imaged outcome, and dragging it out for years longer than was ever estimated?

So he can get a peace prize, and then bomb Syria, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen and Afghanistan?

I'm more comfortable with a president, who knows he doesn't know it all, and has a list of advisors, than I am with one who claims to know it all, and clearly has proven he doesn't.

I hate to break the news to you but the job of the president is political from the day he takes office to the day he leaves. Every decision he makes will be political. If it make sense to you to put someone in the office that is a political neophyte, with no understanding of how the government and congress actually work, and has to look in the dictionary for definition of geopolitics, then you have no idea what the job of the president really entails.

Understanding the cultures, the history and driving forces of our allies and enemies, an understanding of American foreign policy, it's successes and failures, a knowledge of the personalities, and key issues for members of congress, an understating of government fiscal policy, monetary policy, and finance, a basic knowledge of our laws and how they relate to the constitution, and a working knowledge of the components of the executives branch are critical to the work of the president. This is the real world experience and knowledge anyone applying for the president's job needs. It's impossible for any president to have all the knowledge and experience he needs, but for a person to come to the office with nothing he needs is a hell of problem.

Donald Trump's experience developing and managing real estate is about as applicable to the job of the president as the experience of Joe the plumber.

Obama's experience is equal to the jiffy lube man of. Chicago.

Damn in case you are not aware his foreign polices are a nightmare

 

[Andylusion]

Do you have any idea how many business ventures Trump has? Construction, Entertainment, Real Estate, Hospitality, Diversified Investments, and more.

Each section of his business, has dozens of different business ventures, and in total The Trump organization has over 22,000 employees, not including contract work.

So out of dozens of business ventures that Trump is involved in, you focus on a casino bankruptcy, and a few others. 1 failure for 100 successes. By the way, the casino in Atlantic city, is one of dozens of failing businesses in Atlantic City. The whole city is in trouble.

And of course that qualifies him to be commander in chief of the armed forces, and the leader of the free world, right?

Do tell.... What part of "community organizer" qualified Obama for Commander in Chief of the armed forces, and leader of the free world? The part where he sued Citibank to make bad loans?

The whole reason our founding fathers wanted a limited executive branch, was because they understood that no single individual would ever be supremely qualified in every single aspect of governance.

Which presidency throughout all human history, would you claim was completely qualified in all things? Every aspect of the economy, every aspect of international diplomacy, every aspect of military, every aspect of domestic law, every aspect of race?

Which guy was that perfect?

The fact you even think in these terms, is exactly why we were never supposed to vote on the president. But since you have demand democracy, instead of a republic, then you get what you get.

I noticed you neglect the 10 years he spent as a state and US Senator, his work as teacher of constitutional law, as well as his education at the Harvard School Law and President of the Harvard Law Review and prefer to concentrate on the 3 years he worked part time as a community organizer.

Do you really think Trump's skills in filing military deferments qualify him as Commander and Chief, his dozens of law suits against those that disrespect him has given him in depth knowledge of our constitution and laws, his time spent golfing and selling property around the world has given him a firm foundation in geopolitics. The fact is Donald Trump is well qualified to run a property development and real estate firm. If we ever need a president to develop resorts and casinos, Trump's the man.

I'll take real world experience, over an ivory tower of imbeciles, any day.

You think that working as a teacher, or working as a lawyer, qualifies you for Commander and Chief?

Bull crap. Facing the harsh realities of the real world, where you don't get paid by tax payers regardless of if you win or lose, and where you don't get tenure to talk to students with no risk of failure.... that's worth more than anything Obama did.

Depth of knowledge of what? How to write an 'affordable care act' that made care less affordable? How to stimulate the economy for $Trillions of dollars, and end up with higher rates of unemployment than the worst imaged outcome, and dragging it out for years longer than was ever estimated?

So he can get a peace prize, and then bomb Syria, Iraq, Libya, Pakistan, Yemen and Afghanistan?

I'm more comfortable with a president, who knows he doesn't know it all, and has a list of advisors, than I am with one who claims to know it all, and clearly has proven he doesn't.

I hate to break the news to you but the job of the president is political from the day he takes office to the day he leaves. Every decision he makes will be political. If it make sense to you to put someone in the office that is a political neophyte, with no understanding of how the government and congress actually work, and has to look in the dictionary for definition of geopolitics, then you have no idea what the job of the president really entails.

Understanding the cultures, the history and driving forces of our allies and enemies, an understanding of American foreign policy, it's successes and failures, a knowledge of the personalities, and key issues for members of congress, an understating of government fiscal policy, monetary policy, and finance, a basic knowledge of our laws and how they relate to the constitution, and a working knowledge of the components of the executives branch are critical to the work of the president. This is the real world experience and knowledge anyone applying for the president's job needs. It's impossible for any president to have all the knowledge and experience he needs, but for a person to come to the office with nothing he needs is a hell of problem.

Donald Trump's experience developing and managing real estate is about as applicable to the job of the president as the experience of Joe the plumber.

First, if every decision made is political, then what difference does it make? An informed intelligent person is going to suspend their own understanding and knowledge to do what is in his political best interest. The person with less understanding, will also suspend what he knows for his political best interest.

Since both suspend their views, for whatever is politically advantageous, I don't see one doing that much better than the other.

Beyond that.......

You are trying to tell me that Obama, or Hillary, or Clinton, or Carter, or any of the prior left-wingers know all there is about culture, history, the driving forces of our allies and enemies, all the successes and failures of foreign policy, personalities, monetary policies, and key issues of all members of congress?

You really think that? You are crazy. Obama most certainly, did not, and does not, know a fraction of all the things you listed. He's proven that dozens of times.

 

[Andylusion]

The point is that Trump uses his business experience as qualifications for the presidency but yet his business experience is not that exceptional. Granted he has been able to use bankruptcy laws to protect his fortune while his creditors lose hundreds of millions of dollars, but I don't see how that makes him qualified to lead the nation, administer the federal government, command the armed forces, decide when it is appropriate to use nuclear weapons, enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. Considering the job the president, I doubt seriously that Trump would hire a person with his background as president.

What makes any politician qualified to represent you or me, or to develop policies, or prepares budget or anything you listed above? On what exactly are based their qualifications?

IMHO, of all the many qualifications a president should possess, political skills and experience have to be near the top. President Woodrow Wilson called campaigning "a great interruption to the rational consideration of public questions.” Today campaigning isn’t an “interruption” but a permanent condition. Indeed, if you are a successful campaigner it’s expected you’ll be a successful president. Just being a great campaigner is not the only thing one needs to be a great president, although many of the skills are exactly what a president needs. There are a number of similarities between the campaigner and the president. Both tasks require the person to perform well under pressure, communicate effectively, and build a team that trusts you and can function with little sleep and lots of stress. Like a successful campaigner the president can't be a one man show. Sometimes we forget that the presidency is a political office but keep in mind politics is a part of every decision a president makes.

The 3 jobs that best prepare a candidate for the presidency are, a state governor, a congressman, and a top level military commander.

The job most closely related to that of president is a state governor. A governor must work with the legislature, prepare budgets, interface with the media, and run a state goverment patterned after the federal goverment. There is no place you can get better job experience in managing the federal government than that of a governor.

One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman.

Lastly, the experience a top level military commander can gain is the best the president can get when he must fulfill his role as commander and chief.

Every president we had has held one of these 3 positions.

The characteristics one should look for in a president are honesty, the ability to communicate clearly at all times without anyone having to explain what the president meant, and demonstrated leadership ability. A president should not be prone to exaggeration nor understating a situation. He needs a strong will but also a large dose of humility.

One could go on forever about desirable qualification for president.

political skills and experience have to be near the top.

Please don't tell us that you don't think their is no politics in business?


One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman

When the heck did obama work with congress in the past 7 years? You are joking with us right?

Only when he had completely control over Congress.

 

[Flopper]

The point is that Trump uses his business experience as qualifications for the presidency but yet his business experience is not that exceptional. Granted he has been able to use bankruptcy laws to protect his fortune while his creditors lose hundreds of millions of dollars, but I don't see how that makes him qualified to lead the nation, administer the federal government, command the armed forces, decide when it is appropriate to use nuclear weapons, enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. Considering the job the president, I doubt seriously that Trump would hire a person with his background as president.

Business or workplace politics bears little resemble to government politics because:


What makes any politician qualified to represent you or me, or to develop policies, or prepares budget or anything you listed above? On what exactly are based their qualifications?

IMHO, of all the many qualifications a president should possess, political skills and experience have to be near the top. President Woodrow Wilson called campaigning "a great interruption to the rational consideration of public questions.” Today campaigning isn’t an “interruption” but a permanent condition. Indeed, if you are a successful campaigner it’s expected you’ll be a successful president. Just being a great campaigner is not the only thing one needs to be a great president, although many of the skills are exactly what a president needs. There are a number of similarities between the campaigner and the president. Both tasks require the person to perform well under pressure, communicate effectively, and build a team that trusts you and can function with little sleep and lots of stress. Like a successful campaigner the president can't be a one man show. Sometimes we forget that the presidency is a political office but keep in mind politics is a part of every decision a president makes.

The 3 jobs that best prepare a candidate for the presidency are, a state governor, a congressman, and a top level military commander.

The job most closely related to that of president is a state governor. A governor must work with the legislature, prepare budgets, interface with the media, and run a state goverment patterned after the federal goverment. There is no place you can get better job experience in managing the federal government than that of a governor.

One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman.

Lastly, the experience a top level military commander can gain is the best the president can get when he must fulfill his role as commander and chief.

Every president we had has held one of these 3 positions.

The characteristics one should look for in a president are honesty, the ability to communicate clearly at all times without anyone having to explain what the president meant, and demonstrated leadership ability. A president should not be prone to exaggeration nor understating a situation. He needs a strong will but also a large dose of humility.

One could go on forever about desirable qualification for president.

political skills and experience have to be near the top.

Please don't tell us that you don't think their is no politics in business?


One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman

When the heck did obama work with congress in the past 7 years? You are joking with us right?

Policial

The point is that Trump uses his business experience as qualifications for the presidency but yet his business experience is not that exceptional. Granted he has been able to use bankruptcy laws to protect his fortune while his creditors lose hundreds of millions of dollars, but I don't see how that makes him qualified to lead the nation, administer the federal government, command the armed forces, decide when it is appropriate to use nuclear weapons, enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. Considering the job the president, I doubt seriously that Trump would hire a person with his background as president.

What makes any politician qualified to represent you or me, or to develop policies, or prepares budget or anything you listed above? On what exactly are based their qualifications?

IMHO, of all the many qualifications a president should possess, political skills and experience have to be near the top. President Woodrow Wilson called campaigning "a great interruption to the rational consideration of public questions.” Today campaigning isn’t an “interruption” but a permanent condition. Indeed, if you are a successful campaigner it’s expected you’ll be a successful president. Just being a great campaigner is not the only thing one needs to be a great president, although many of the skills are exactly what a president needs. There are a number of similarities between the campaigner and the president. Both tasks require the person to perform well under pressure, communicate effectively, and build a team that trusts you and can function with little sleep and lots of stress. Like a successful campaigner the president can't be a one man show. Sometimes we forget that the presidency is a political office but keep in mind politics is a part of every decision a president makes.

The 3 jobs that best prepare a candidate for the presidency are, a state governor, a congressman, and a top level military commander.

The job most closely related to that of president is a state governor. A governor must work with the legislature, prepare budgets, interface with the media, and run a state goverment patterned after the federal goverment. There is no place you can get better job experience in managing the federal government than that of a governor.

One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman.

Lastly, the experience a top level military commander can gain is the best the president can get when he must fulfill his role as commander and chief.

Every president we had has held one of these 3 positions.

The characteristics one should look for in a president are honesty, the ability to communicate clearly at all times without anyone having to explain what the president meant, and demonstrated leadership ability. A president should not be prone to exaggeration nor understating a situation. He needs a strong will but also a large dose of humility.

One could go on forever about desirable qualification for president.

political skills and experience have to be near the top.

Please don't tell us that you don't think their is no politics in business?


One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman

When the heck did obama work with congress in the past 7 years? You are joking with us right?

Business politics or workplace politics has little resemble to government politics because the goals and the method of achieving those goals are vastly different. The business of business is business and the goal of business is to earn a profit in the provision of goods and services. The business of government is service.

Obama has signed into law over 1100 bills. The president has to work with leaders in congress on most of these bills. Major pieces of legislation such as the healthcare bill, and international agreements required many discussions with the president. During budget reconciliation, the president must provide justification for the most of the discretionary spending. Then there are appointments of federal judges, ambassadors, advisers, cabinet members, etc. For the president, there is hardly a day that passes in which he isn't working with either legislation or directly with leaders in congressmen.

 

[Mertex]

You said the same thing around 12 times in your last 10 posts. Now, that's gullible... but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Over the years Trump filed for bankruptcy 4 times for various businesses under his label. What a loser, right? This also means that out of 515 subsidiaries of the Trump organization, less than 0.8% have been failures.

On the other side you have someone that claims to be broke after leaving the White House, plus steals some furniture on the way out. Then make millions, not by producing or building something, but by doing speeches and selling favors to her domestic and foreign friends.

You said "Trump will do what they tell him to do"... who is "they"?

Let's look at those bankruptcies

• The Trump Taj Mahal built at a cost of more that a billion dollars housing a over dozen other business with employment of over 3,000 people.
• Trump Plaza Hotel which cost 400 million dollars and employed 800 people.
• Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, a multi-billion dollar enterprise employing thousands.
• Trump Entertainment Resorts, another multi-billion dollar enterprise employing over 3,800.

These are not small business in a large enterprise. These business failures cost creditors hundreds of million and thousands of people lost jobs. For a presidential candidate whose only qualification is his business expertise, this is nothing to be proud of.

So many other issues not to vote for Trump. This isn't one of them. 90% of all businesses fail, that is the nature of business.

That may well be true. However, a candidate for president who uses his business expertise as his sole qualification for the presidency should not have a record of bankruptcies in which he left creditors holding a billion dollars in worthless bonds while he wallows in wealth. Contrary to Trump's claims bankruptcy is not common is large businesses. In fact, no major US company has filed for Chaper 11 more than Trump's casino empire in the last 30 years.

What the heck??????

American Airlines filed chapter 11 in 2011


American Airlines files for bankruptcy

The American airlines CEO is not running for president claiming his business experience is all the experience he needs to be president.

Trump supporters are like passengers on a plane that is getting ready to take off and the pilot comes out and tells them "I've never flown a plane before, but I've worked around aircraft for a long time, I own a couple of planes myself, and I'm sure I can fly this baby, how hard can it be" and they all are happy with his honesty, they clap and stay.

 

[Mertex]

Do tell.... What part of "community organizer" qualified Obama for Commander in Chief of the armed forces, and leader of the free world?

Andy-delusional. You're conveniently forgetting that Obama had a law degree from Harvard....graduated magna cum laude, he also was a state senator before becoming a US Senator. He is brilliant, composed and not temperamentally crazy like Trump.

 

[Ame®icano]

Trump supporters are like passengers on a plane that is getting ready to take off and the pilot comes out and tells them "I've never flown a plane before, but I've worked around aircraft for a long time, I own a couple of planes myself, and I'm sure I can fly this baby, how hard can it be" and they all are happy with his honesty, they clap and stay.

Let's clarify that person who never flown a plane is not a pilot.

 

[Mertex]

Trump supporters are like passengers on a plane that is getting ready to take off and the pilot comes out and tells them "I've never flown a plane before, but I've worked around aircraft for a long time, I own a couple of planes myself, and I'm sure I can fly this baby, how hard can it be" and they all are happy with his honesty, they clap and stay.

Let's clarify that person who never flown a plane is not a pilot.

You're right....but they can pretend they are "a pilot" - just like Trump is pretending he is "Presidential".

 

[Ame®icano]

Trump supporters are like passengers on a plane that is getting ready to take off and the pilot comes out and tells them "I've never flown a plane before, but I've worked around aircraft for a long time, I own a couple of planes myself, and I'm sure I can fly this baby, how hard can it be" and they all are happy with his honesty, they clap and stay.

Let's clarify that person who never flown a plane is not a pilot.

You're right....but they can pretend they are "a pilot" - just like Trump is pretending he is "Presidential".

Forty years of pretending to be successful politician, definitely is presidential. Using your analogy, Hillary never flown the plane neither, but she had tried and failed on every attempt, lied about it, have others lying about it, and you still think she's more qualified.

Would you rather trust the guy who owns the plane he rides, or someone who's just renting the services?

 

[Octoldit]

The FBI should be investigating Trump for this latest display of anti-patriotism. He encouraged Russia (on National TV) to hack into Hillary's e-mails and publish them. The Republican candidate for the Presidency is actually asking an enemy country to hack into an American's e-mails. This is considered Treason. If this isn't proof that the buffoon is not qualified to lead the country I don't know what is.

What will it take for Trump supporters to get the picture? If he were to ask another country to drop a bomb on the US would the Trump supporters stand on the sidelines and cheer? I believe they would.


Trump, meanwhile, speaking at a press conference in Florida, raised the stakes again, as he urged Russia to hack into and release Clinton’s emails from the personal server she used while she was secretary of state.

“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” he said.
Donald Trump to Russia: hack and publish Hillary Clinton's 'missing' emails

"Wikileaks confirms Hillary sold weapons to ISIS" this is what needs to be investigated! Idiot.

www.octoldit.info

Source: Wikileaks confirms Hillary sold weapons to ISIS

 

[Wyatt earp]

The point is that Trump uses his business experience as qualifications for the presidency but yet his business experience is not that exceptional. Granted he has been able to use bankruptcy laws to protect his fortune while his creditors lose hundreds of millions of dollars, but I don't see how that makes him qualified to lead the nation, administer the federal government, command the armed forces, decide when it is appropriate to use nuclear weapons, enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. Considering the job the president, I doubt seriously that Trump would hire a person with his background as president.

Business or workplace politics bears little resemble to government politics because:


What makes any politician qualified to represent you or me, or to develop policies, or prepares budget or anything you listed above? On what exactly are based their qualifications?

IMHO, of all the many qualifications a president should possess, political skills and experience have to be near the top. President Woodrow Wilson called campaigning "a great interruption to the rational consideration of public questions.” Today campaigning isn’t an “interruption” but a permanent condition. Indeed, if you are a successful campaigner it’s expected you’ll be a successful president. Just being a great campaigner is not the only thing one needs to be a great president, although many of the skills are exactly what a president needs. There are a number of similarities between the campaigner and the president. Both tasks require the person to perform well under pressure, communicate effectively, and build a team that trusts you and can function with little sleep and lots of stress. Like a successful campaigner the president can't be a one man show. Sometimes we forget that the presidency is a political office but keep in mind politics is a part of every decision a president makes.

The 3 jobs that best prepare a candidate for the presidency are, a state governor, a congressman, and a top level military commander.

The job most closely related to that of president is a state governor. A governor must work with the legislature, prepare budgets, interface with the media, and run a state goverment patterned after the federal goverment. There is no place you can get better job experience in managing the federal government than that of a governor.

One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman.

Lastly, the experience a top level military commander can gain is the best the president can get when he must fulfill his role as commander and chief.

Every president we had has held one of these 3 positions.

The characteristics one should look for in a president are honesty, the ability to communicate clearly at all times without anyone having to explain what the president meant, and demonstrated leadership ability. A president should not be prone to exaggeration nor understating a situation. He needs a strong will but also a large dose of humility.

One could go on forever about desirable qualification for president.

political skills and experience have to be near the top.

Please don't tell us that you don't think their is no politics in business?


One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman

When the heck did obama work with congress in the past 7 years? You are joking with us right?

Policial

The point is that Trump uses his business experience as qualifications for the presidency but yet his business experience is not that exceptional. Granted he has been able to use bankruptcy laws to protect his fortune while his creditors lose hundreds of millions of dollars, but I don't see how that makes him qualified to lead the nation, administer the federal government, command the armed forces, decide when it is appropriate to use nuclear weapons, enforces laws, treaties, and court rulings; develops federal policies; prepares the national budget; and appoints federal officials. Considering the job the president, I doubt seriously that Trump would hire a person with his background as president.

What makes any politician qualified to represent you or me, or to develop policies, or prepares budget or anything you listed above? On what exactly are based their qualifications?

IMHO, of all the many qualifications a president should possess, political skills and experience have to be near the top. President Woodrow Wilson called campaigning "a great interruption to the rational consideration of public questions.” Today campaigning isn’t an “interruption” but a permanent condition. Indeed, if you are a successful campaigner it’s expected you’ll be a successful president. Just being a great campaigner is not the only thing one needs to be a great president, although many of the skills are exactly what a president needs. There are a number of similarities between the campaigner and the president. Both tasks require the person to perform well under pressure, communicate effectively, and build a team that trusts you and can function with little sleep and lots of stress. Like a successful campaigner the president can't be a one man show. Sometimes we forget that the presidency is a political office but keep in mind politics is a part of every decision a president makes.

The 3 jobs that best prepare a candidate for the presidency are, a state governor, a congressman, and a top level military commander.

The job most closely related to that of president is a state governor. A governor must work with the legislature, prepare budgets, interface with the media, and run a state goverment patterned after the federal goverment. There is no place you can get better job experience in managing the federal government than that of a governor.

One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman.

Lastly, the experience a top level military commander can gain is the best the president can get when he must fulfill his role as commander and chief.

Every president we had has held one of these 3 positions.

The characteristics one should look for in a president are honesty, the ability to communicate clearly at all times without anyone having to explain what the president meant, and demonstrated leadership ability. A president should not be prone to exaggeration nor understating a situation. He needs a strong will but also a large dose of humility.

One could go on forever about desirable qualification for president.

political skills and experience have to be near the top.

Please don't tell us that you don't think their is no politics in business?


One the most important job of the president is working with Congress and there is no better experience for working with congress than being a congressman

When the heck did obama work with congress in the past 7 years? You are joking with us right?

Business politics or workplace politics has little resemble to government politics because the goals and the method of achieving those goals are vastly different. The business of business is business and the goal of business is to earn a profit in the provision of goods and services. The business of government is service.

Obama has signed into law over 1100 bills. The president has to work with leaders in congress on most of these bills. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...jenkins-blames-harry-reid-do-nothing-sena/and international agreements required many discussions with the president. During budget reconciliation, the president must provide justification for the most of the discretionary spending. Then there are appointments of federal judges, ambassadors, advisers, cabinet members, etc. For the president, there is hardly a day that passes in which he isn't working with either legislation or directly with leaders in congressmen

Damn flopper trying to rewrite current events, get to the back of the busy, I have a pen and a phone and the only advisor he worked which on obamacare was with Gruber on how to deceive the public, how they can keep their doctors, how obama care was not a tax so the Bill didn't have to come from the house
Also what about all those bills that Obama's henchmen statled in the Senate?



In the "do-nothing Senate," there are 352 House bills "sitting on Harry Reid’s desk awaiting action," including 55 introduced by Democrats.
— Lynn Jenkins on Tuesday, July 29th, 2014 in a press conference

Rep. Lynn Jenkins blames Harry Reid for 'do-nothing Senate

 

[Wyatt earp]

Let's look at those bankruptcies

• The Trump Taj Mahal built at a cost of more that a billion dollars housing a over dozen other business with employment of over 3,000 people.
• Trump Plaza Hotel which cost 400 million dollars and employed 800 people.
• Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, a multi-billion dollar enterprise employing thousands.
• Trump Entertainment Resorts, another multi-billion dollar enterprise employing over 3,800.

These are not small business in a large enterprise. These business failures cost creditors hundreds of million and thousands of people lost jobs. For a presidential candidate whose only qualification is his business expertise, this is nothing to be proud of.

So many other issues not to vote for Trump. This isn't one of them. 90% of all businesses fail, that is the nature of business.

That may well be true. However, a candidate for president who uses his business expertise as his sole qualification for the presidency should not have a record of bankruptcies in which he left creditors holding a billion dollars in worthless bonds while he wallows in wealth. Contrary to Trump's claims bankruptcy is not common is large businesses. In fact, no major US company has filed for Chaper 11 more than Trump's casino empire in the last 30 years.

What the heck??????

American Airlines filed chapter 11 in 2011


American Airlines files for bankruptcy

The American airlines CEO is not running for president claiming his business experience is all the experience he needs to be president.

Trump supporters are like passengers on a plane that is getting ready to take off and the pilot comes out and tells them "I've never flown a plane before, but I've worked around aircraft for a long time, I own a couple of planes myself, and I'm sure I can fly this baby, how hard can it be" and they all are happy with his honesty, they clap and stay.

It appears those dot heads flew a plane pretty good with only a few hours or training, they managed to hit a few sky scrapper dead on with ease

And according to the "Official story" they managed to go from 30,000 feet down to five feet off the ground , level off , go full power at 500 mph and hit the Pentagon dead on.. That's a million to one shot baby..