- Jun 5, 2008
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Unions formed for a reason. And now that unions barely exist, the American middle class is making less. Factoring in inflation. But the rich are richer than ever. You like the way things are right now. You should. So do I? I’m doing great. But the middle class is not. Your way is making socialism look goodLogic is conservative mantra? LOLI knew you were going to use that standard conservative mantra or talking point. Its ridiculous to say unions have outgrown their usefulness. Thats like saying if we remove the thing that forces employers to pay workers their fair share, employers will pay fairly without the unions.I disagree. 100%.I knew which party is better for the middle class and which party is better for the middle class.That is because you’re a leftist. I would never be a party sheep. Neither party gives two shits about you or me. We are here for ourselves. Funny how you can’t see that.The only times I get mad at democrats is when they act too much like republicans. There are a few times Bill Clinton let us down. When he signed nafta or deregulated the media in 1996. He let us liberals down.A lot of republicans hate trump. I think trump has feuded with bezos publically. All the republicans who’ve broken from trump aren’t democrats now are they? I don’t think so.Is bezos for corporate tax breaks? Then he’s no democrat. Not a fiscal one. Maybe he is liberal on social issues but what matters most is fiscal.Bezos isn't a Democrat and is probably more independent than you are.I am an Independent. I don't belong to political parties. And Jeff Bezos is a Democrat. How does that correspond with your statement?Well no wonder you’re a republican.Two kidsHow much do you make and how many kids?Have I seven the debt? What about the other two? What crumbs? I directly benefitted from the cuts.Corporations saw their income tax rates fall from 35% to 21%. Have you seven the debt? What about infrastructure spending? What about social security and Medicare?How did your taxes go up when they were lowered?Don't know what alternate university this was posted from but my healthcare went up and so did my taxes. And my porfolio went the other direction.Trump made your healthcare more affordable. He raised wages so much people people still couldn’t get by 2 months without paychecks. He raised growth from 2.2% to 2.3%. He stopped 1000 mexicans from getting in with his expensive wall. He pissed off muslims by taking out an Iranian general, for you. Bin Ladin no biggy though. He stopped Obama’s illegal wars and started his own, for you. You’re welcome.And I should be feeling what at this point in time?Trump did more for black people than any other president including LincolnBut the border wall!He's done. Politically, legally, financially. His name is shit. He once had a shot to build a media empire. Now, outside of his willing sheep, there will be no one to give him money or a platform. Like the response to the virus, I can't see another way that Trump could have fucked things up worse than he did.
What should you feel? Gratitude
Course, I live in the Real World so maybe that explains it.
I don’t think the crumbs you got were worth it.
AGI is mid six figures
Exactly. He's liberal on social issues but when it comes to money, he's more conservative than liberal.
From his wiki page:
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At best Bezos is a deep state globalist rino.
I don't know what party affiliation Bezos is.
I don't have a party affiliation. I'm a liberal Independent.
My liberal beliefs used to come first. That is before the bush boy. I realized then that while I don't agree with democrats on a lot of things and they so need to grow spines, they are better than the republicans.
Ever since the bush boy, I vote against republicans/conservatives. If that means I have to vote for a democrat, so be it.
I don't have an idea what Jeff Bezos thinks about politics.
Or when Obama let the insurance giants write Obamacare. That was our chance for real healthcare reform but we settled. The healthcare lobby got to enough democrats who would vote WITH republicans.
Trump admitted it so why didn’t obama say bush lied us into Iraq?
So the only time democrats let me down is when they go along with republicans.
I also know it was liberal policies that created the huge middle class never seen before in human history. It wasn’t free market capitalism that got corporations to pay labor its fair share. It took unions.
And since unions have gone from 35% of the workforce to 10%, labor has been left behind.
You seem pretty well paid. Imagine if you only were worth $50,000 A year. And at the same time your bosses pay tripled. And this was happening everywhere because labor is no longer organized to fight it?
Unions have outgrown their use. Capitalism and innovation created the middle class. I am well paid because I took a major risk and started my own business. If you want to earn more money, start your own business or garner a marketable skill that pays what you want to earn.
We know this is untrue because of what’s happened the last few decades as unions went from representing 35% of the workforce to 10%. It’s not coincidence.
Just look at which companies have the widest gap between their CEOs and lowest paid workers. And look how much those CEOs make. They aren’t sharing with their employees.
Union companies pay their employees more. They also force non union companies to pay more for fear their good employees will leave or for fear their employees will organized.
unions also force companies who use them to pay more for services. Stupid. Again, if you don’t like your comp then go elsewhere. Employees aren’t slaves. You don’t seem to understand that concept. Why?