Trump Approval Rating Plummeting at a Record Rate

[AzogtheDefiler]

He's done. Politically, legally, financially. His name is shit. He once had a shot to build a media empire. Now, outside of his willing sheep, there will be no one to give him money or a platform. Like the response to the virus, I can't see another way that Trump could have fucked things up worse than he did.

President Trump Job Approval | Election Other | RealClearPolitics

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But the border wall!

Trump did more for black people than any other president including Lincoln

And I should be feeling what at this point in time?

Trump made your healthcare more affordable. He raised wages so much people people still couldn’t get by 2 months without paychecks. He raised growth from 2.2% to 2.3%. He stopped 1000 mexicans from getting in with his expensive wall. He pissed off muslims by taking out an Iranian general, for you. Bin Ladin no biggy though. He stopped Obama’s illegal wars and started his own, for you. You’re welcome.

What should you feel? Gratitude

Don't know what alternate university this was posted from but my healthcare went up and so did my taxes. And my porfolio went the other direction.

Course, I live in the Real World so maybe that explains it.

How did your taxes go up when they were lowered?

Corporations saw their income tax rates fall from 35% to 21%. Have you seven the debt? What about infrastructure spending? What about social security and Medicare?

I don’t think the crumbs you got were worth it.

Have I seven the debt? What about the other two? What crumbs? I directly benefitted from the cuts.

How much do you make and how many kids?

Two kids

AGI is mid six figures

Well no wonder you’re a republican.

I am an Independent. I don't belong to political parties. And Jeff Bezos is a Democrat. How does that correspond with your statement?

Bezos isn't a Democrat and is probably more independent than you are.

Is bezos for corporate tax breaks? Then he’s no democrat. Not a fiscal one. Maybe he is liberal on social issues but what matters most is fiscal.

Exactly. He's liberal on social issues but when it comes to money, he's more conservative than liberal.

From his wiki page:

View attachment 443696

A lot of republicans hate trump. I think trump has feuded with bezos publically. All the republicans who’ve broken from trump aren’t democrats now are they? I don’t think so.

At best Bezos is a deep state globalist rino.

I don't know what party affiliation Bezos is.

I don't have a party affiliation. I'm a liberal Independent.

My liberal beliefs used to come first. That is before the bush boy. I realized then that while I don't agree with democrats on a lot of things and they so need to grow spines, they are better than the republicans.

Ever since the bush boy, I vote against republicans/conservatives. If that means I have to vote for a democrat, so be it.

I don't have an idea what Jeff Bezos thinks about politics.

The only times I get mad at democrats is when they act too much like republicans. There are a few times Bill Clinton let us down. When he signed nafta or deregulated the media in 1996. He let us liberals down.

Or when Obama let the insurance giants write Obamacare. That was our chance for real healthcare reform but we settled. The healthcare lobby got to enough democrats who would vote WITH republicans.

Trump admitted it so why didn’t obama say bush lied us into Iraq?

So the only time democrats let me down is when they go along with republicans.

That is because you’re a leftist. I would never be a party sheep. Neither party gives two shits about you or me. We are here for ourselves. Funny how you can’t see that.

 

[sealybobo]

He's done. Politically, legally, financially. His name is shit. He once had a shot to build a media empire. Now, outside of his willing sheep, there will be no one to give him money or a platform. Like the response to the virus, I can't see another way that Trump could have fucked things up worse than he did.

President Trump Job Approval | Election Other | RealClearPolitics

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But the border wall!

Trump did more for black people than any other president including Lincoln

And I should be feeling what at this point in time?

Trump made your healthcare more affordable. He raised wages so much people people still couldn’t get by 2 months without paychecks. He raised growth from 2.2% to 2.3%. He stopped 1000 mexicans from getting in with his expensive wall. He pissed off muslims by taking out an Iranian general, for you. Bin Ladin no biggy though. He stopped Obama’s illegal wars and started his own, for you. You’re welcome.

What should you feel? Gratitude

Don't know what alternate university this was posted from but my healthcare went up and so did my taxes. And my porfolio went the other direction.

Course, I live in the Real World so maybe that explains it.

How did your taxes go up when they were lowered?

Corporations saw their income tax rates fall from 35% to 21%. Have you seven the debt? What about infrastructure spending? What about social security and Medicare?

I don’t think the crumbs you got were worth it.

Have I seven the debt? What about the other two? What crumbs? I directly benefitted from the cuts.

How much do you make and how many kids?

Two kids

AGI is mid six figures

Well no wonder you’re a republican.

I am an Independent. I don't belong to political parties. And Jeff Bezos is a Democrat. How does that correspond with your statement?

Bezos isn't a Democrat and is probably more independent than you are.

Is bezos for corporate tax breaks? Then he’s no democrat. Not a fiscal one. Maybe he is liberal on social issues but what matters most is fiscal.

Exactly. He's liberal on social issues but when it comes to money, he's more conservative than liberal.

From his wiki page:

View attachment 443696

A lot of republicans hate trump. I think trump has feuded with bezos publically. All the republicans who’ve broken from trump aren’t democrats now are they? I don’t think so.

At best Bezos is a deep state globalist rino.

I don't know what party affiliation Bezos is.

I don't have a party affiliation. I'm a liberal Independent.

My liberal beliefs used to come first. That is before the bush boy. I realized then that while I don't agree with democrats on a lot of things and they so need to grow spines, they are better than the republicans.

Ever since the bush boy, I vote against republicans/conservatives. If that means I have to vote for a democrat, so be it.

I don't have an idea what Jeff Bezos thinks about politics.

The only times I get mad at democrats is when they act too much like republicans. There are a few times Bill Clinton let us down. When he signed nafta or deregulated the media in 1996. He let us liberals down.

Or when Obama let the insurance giants write Obamacare. That was our chance for real healthcare reform but we settled. The healthcare lobby got to enough democrats who would vote WITH republicans.

Trump admitted it so why didn’t obama say bush lied us into Iraq?

So the only time democrats let me down is when they go along with republicans.

That is because you’re a leftist. I would never be a party sheep. Neither party gives two shits about you or me. We are here for ourselves. Funny how you can’t see that.

I knew which party is better for the middle class and which party is better for the middle class.

I also know it was liberal policies that created the huge middle class never seen before in human history. It wasn’t free market capitalism that got corporations to pay labor its fair share. It took unions.

And since unions have gone from 35% of the workforce to 10%, labor has been left behind.

You seem pretty well paid. Imagine if you only were worth $50,000 A year. And at the same time your bosses pay tripled. And this was happening everywhere because labor is no longer organized to fight it?

 

[basquebromance]

please don't compare Trump to Nixon, my friends

Nixon got re-elected

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

He's done. Politically, legally, financially. His name is shit. He once had a shot to build a media empire. Now, outside of his willing sheep, there will be no one to give him money or a platform. Like the response to the virus, I can't see another way that Trump could have fucked things up worse than he did.

President Trump Job Approval | Election Other | RealClearPolitics

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

www.realclearpolitics.com

But the border wall!

Trump did more for black people than any other president including Lincoln

And I should be feeling what at this point in time?

Trump made your healthcare more affordable. He raised wages so much people people still couldn’t get by 2 months without paychecks. He raised growth from 2.2% to 2.3%. He stopped 1000 mexicans from getting in with his expensive wall. He pissed off muslims by taking out an Iranian general, for you. Bin Ladin no biggy though. He stopped Obama’s illegal wars and started his own, for you. You’re welcome.

What should you feel? Gratitude

Don't know what alternate university this was posted from but my healthcare went up and so did my taxes. And my porfolio went the other direction.

Course, I live in the Real World so maybe that explains it.

How did your taxes go up when they were lowered?

Corporations saw their income tax rates fall from 35% to 21%. Have you seven the debt? What about infrastructure spending? What about social security and Medicare?

I don’t think the crumbs you got were worth it.

Have I seven the debt? What about the other two? What crumbs? I directly benefitted from the cuts.

How much do you make and how many kids?

Two kids

AGI is mid six figures

Well no wonder you’re a republican.

I am an Independent. I don't belong to political parties. And Jeff Bezos is a Democrat. How does that correspond with your statement?

Bezos isn't a Democrat and is probably more independent than you are.

Is bezos for corporate tax breaks? Then he’s no democrat. Not a fiscal one. Maybe he is liberal on social issues but what matters most is fiscal.

Exactly. He's liberal on social issues but when it comes to money, he's more conservative than liberal.

From his wiki page:

View attachment 443696

A lot of republicans hate trump. I think trump has feuded with bezos publically. All the republicans who’ve broken from trump aren’t democrats now are they? I don’t think so.

At best Bezos is a deep state globalist rino.

I don't know what party affiliation Bezos is.

I don't have a party affiliation. I'm a liberal Independent.

My liberal beliefs used to come first. That is before the bush boy. I realized then that while I don't agree with democrats on a lot of things and they so need to grow spines, they are better than the republicans.

Ever since the bush boy, I vote against republicans/conservatives. If that means I have to vote for a democrat, so be it.

I don't have an idea what Jeff Bezos thinks about politics.

The only times I get mad at democrats is when they act too much like republicans. There are a few times Bill Clinton let us down. When he signed nafta or deregulated the media in 1996. He let us liberals down.

Or when Obama let the insurance giants write Obamacare. That was our chance for real healthcare reform but we settled. The healthcare lobby got to enough democrats who would vote WITH republicans.

Trump admitted it so why didn’t obama say bush lied us into Iraq?

So the only time democrats let me down is when they go along with republicans.

That is because you’re a leftist. I would never be a party sheep. Neither party gives two shits about you or me. We are here for ourselves. Funny how you can’t see that.

I knew which party is better for the middle class and which party is better for the middle class.

I also know it was liberal policies that created the huge middle class never seen before in human history. It wasn’t free market capitalism that got corporations to pay labor its fair share. It took unions.

And since unions have gone from 35% of the workforce to 10%, labor has been left behind.

You seem pretty well paid. Imagine if you only were worth $50,000 A year. And at the same time your bosses pay tripled. And this was happening everywhere because labor is no longer organized to fight it?

I disagree. 100%.

Unions have outgrown their use. Capitalism and innovation created the middle class. I am well paid because I took a major risk and started my own business. If you want to earn more money, start your own business or garner a marketable skill that pays what you want to earn.

 

[Crepitus]

FiveThirtyEight.com, Jan. 15

>> In the wake of the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, public opinion is souring quickly on President Trump as he enters the final days of his term. Not only do a majority of Americans blame him for the riot at the Capitol and favor removing him from office, but his job approval rating has fallen faster in recent days than at any point in his presidency.​

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According to FiveThirtyEight’s approval tracker,1 39.4 percent of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing as president, while 56.3 percent disapprove (a net approval rating of -16.8 percentage points). On Jan. 6, the day of the Capitol attack, Trump’s net approval rating stood at -10.3 points, which means his net approval rating has fallen 6.5 points in just eight days. It turns out that’s the biggest drop in Trump’s net approval that our tracker has ever recorded.​

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To put this into perspective, there have been only two other times when Trump’s net approval rating fell by at least 5 points over an eight-day period: once in February 2017, after he issued executive orders to begin construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and to suspend the refugee program and prohibit entry for visitors from seven predominantly Muslim countries,2 and then again in March 2017, after Republicans began their legislative efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act.3​

​

.... As Trump continues to falter, it’s worth noting just how atypical this trend is for a president in his last couple of months in office. Outgoing presidents often get at least a little bump in approval, regardless of whether they were popular or unpopular. For instance, President Barack Obama’s net approval rating rose from about +8 after the 2016 election to almost +20 when Trump took office, while President George W. Bush’s net approval rating rose from -43 in November 2008 to about -30 going into Obama’s inauguration in January 2009. Even President George H.W. Bush, the last incumbent president to lose reelection before Trump, saw his net approval go from -23 after the election to +18 by the time he left the White House. It’s hard to imagine such a huge shift in this more polarized era, but Trump’s net approval has definitely declined more than his predecessors’. <<​

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FiveThirtyEight is a stat-freak site which aggregates and averages polls to find a mean, the Presidential-approval version of which can be seen on this page. Graphs compare the last dozen POTUSes day by day, approval and disapproval. Interestingly Rump is the one and only approval line, going all the way back to Truman, who has never touched 50%, appropriate for a candidate who couldn't touch 50% in the popular votes of Michigan Wisconsin or Pennsylvania (Florida, North Cackalackee, AridZona, friggin' Utah...) and certainly not the nation.

Rump's net approval stands right now at minus 17 and still dropping like a stock market that just heard about Coronavirus. I think Rump's going down to a record low, at least for him if not for all of history, befitting the single worst individual to ever hold the office.

​

The fact that it isn't 0 is disturbing.

 

[my2¢]

When I heard the audio recording of Trump's call telling the Georgia election official to find him the votes needed to win, I figured some of Trump backers might begin to see things for what they really were about who was commiting election fraud.

 

[Baron]

FiveThirtyEight.com, Jan. 15

>> In the wake of the Jan. 6 assault on the U.S. Capitol, public opinion is souring quickly on President Trump as he enters the final days of his term. Not only do a majority of Americans blame him for the riot at the Capitol and favor removing him from office, but his job approval rating has fallen faster in recent days than at any point in his presidency.​

​

According to FiveThirtyEight’s approval tracker,1 39.4 percent of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing as president, while 56.3 percent disapprove (a net approval rating of -16.8 percentage points). On Jan. 6, the day of the Capitol attack, Trump’s net approval rating stood at -10.3 points, which means his net approval rating has fallen 6.5 points in just eight days. It turns out that’s the biggest drop in Trump’s net approval that our tracker has ever recorded.​

​

To put this into perspective, there have been only two other times when Trump’s net approval rating fell by at least 5 points over an eight-day period: once in February 2017, after he issued executive orders to begin construction of a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and to suspend the refugee program and prohibit entry for visitors from seven predominantly Muslim countries,2 and then again in March 2017, after Republicans began their legislative efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act.3​

​

.... As Trump continues to falter, it’s worth noting just how atypical this trend is for a president in his last couple of months in office. Outgoing presidents often get at least a little bump in approval, regardless of whether they were popular or unpopular. For instance, President Barack Obama’s net approval rating rose from about +8 after the 2016 election to almost +20 when Trump took office, while President George W. Bush’s net approval rating rose from -43 in November 2008 to about -30 going into Obama’s inauguration in January 2009. Even President George H.W. Bush, the last incumbent president to lose reelection before Trump, saw his net approval go from -23 after the election to +18 by the time he left the White House. It’s hard to imagine such a huge shift in this more polarized era, but Trump’s net approval has definitely declined more than his predecessors’. <<​

​

FiveThirtyEight is a stat-freak site which aggregates and averages polls to find a mean, the Presidential-approval version of which can be seen on this page. Graphs compare the last dozen POTUSes day by day, approval and disapproval. Interestingly Rump is the one and only approval line, going all the way back to Truman, who has never touched 50%, appropriate for a candidate who couldn't touch 50% in the popular votes of Michigan Wisconsin or Pennsylvania (Florida, North Cackalackee, AridZona, friggin' Utah...) and certainly not the nation.

Rump's net approval stands right now at minus 17 and still dropping like a stock market that just heard about Coronavirus. I think Rump's going down to a record low, at least for him if not for all of history, befitting the single worst individual to ever hold the office.

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Never believe faked 'polls'!

 

[playtime]

80 million Americans love Trump for being the best President this country ever had.

Linkety-link?

Actually even if you could linkety-link, MORE THAN 80 million voted against him, so it wouldn't matter.

Yea sure:
View attachment 443495

that's not a credible unbiased link. try again.

Did you expect him to find the evidence in the New York Times or CNN?

i expect a link - - - not a pic that can be altered & say anything. where's the reporting outlet that accompanies that pic? huh? huh huh HUH?

if the source can't pass muster in a research paper, then it's deemed unreliable. & a google image is not a source in & of itself, you poorly educated trump humper.

DOY.

 

[DBA]

The rest of the world has welcomed the change

True, they have welcomed the change. Our enemies for obvious reasons(particularly China), but our allies because we will now be back in the business of being the cash cow for all their wide-eyed, Socialistic plans that they can't fund without our money.

The useful idiots in this country that voted for Harris/Biden are our own country's worst enemy for certain, but many are simply too far gone(indoctrinated) to even understand what they did and never will. China is the true winner in this election, not the US.

 

[Correll]

According to FiveThirtyEight’s approval tracker,1 39.4 percent of Americans approve of the job Trump is doing as president, while 56.3 percent disapprove (a net approval rating of -16.8 percentage points). On Jan. 6, the day of the Capitol attack, Trump’s net approval rating stood at -10.3 points, which means his net approval rating has fallen 6.5 points in just eight days. It turns out that’s the biggest drop in Trump’s net approval that our tracker has ever recorded.

No one ever said that propaganda, especially when you can just shut down your competitors, doesn't work.

 

[schmidlap]

i expect a link - - - not a pic that can be altered & say anything. where's the reporting outlet that accompanies that pic? huh? huh huh HUH?

The verdict on Trumpery was issued by the American People on November 3, and comports with four years of consistent public surveys. That the entirely expected would trigger an hysterical tantrum is a confirmation of a severe disconnect from reality.

History will dispassionately note the failed casino operator and faded reality-tv performer being the only president ever to be twice impeached, losing his Party the House, the Senate, and the Executive in one term, his leaving office with the nation's unemployment rate 2 full points higher than he found it, with a national debt he bloated by $7 trillion, as the pandemic he blithely dismissed now infects and kills more in the U.S. than in any other nation on earth.

His response: Incite an insurrection against Congress, and wallow in lies and self-pity.

Diehard Trumpers will descend further into their realm of make-believe, increasingly paranoid and contemptuous of empirical data and ineluctable truth, fortified by their Cry Baby Sore Loser's squalid behavior.

 

[Correll]

i expect a link - - - not a pic that can be altered & say anything. where's the reporting outlet that accompanies that pic? huh? huh huh HUH?

The verdict on Trumpery was issued by the American People on November 3, and comports with four years of consistent public surveys. That the entirely expected would trigger an hysterical tantrum is a confirmation of a severe disconnect from reality.

History will dispassionately note the failed casino operator and faded reality-tv performer being the only president ever to be twice impeached, losing his Party the House, the Senate, and the Executive in one term, his leaving office with the nation's unemployment rate 2 full points higher than he found it, with a national debt he bloated by $7 trillion, as the pandemic he blithely dismissed now infects and kills more in the U.S. than in any other nation on earth.

His response: Incite an insurrection against Congress, and wallow in lies and self-pity.

Diehard Trumpers will descend further into their realm of make-believe, increasingly paranoid and contemptuous of empirical data and ineluctable truth, fortified by their Cry Baby Sore Loser's squalid behavior.

History will note that the same people that thought that a man saying he is a woman, magically made him a woman,


were deeply offended over the idea of "America FIrst" ie, national policy based on advancing national interests,


and they will laugh at you as complete lunatics.

 

[schmidlap]

History will note that the same people that thought that a man saying he is a woman, magically made him a woman,
were deeply offended over the idea of "America FIrst" ie, national policy based on advancing national interests,
and they will laugh at you as complete lunatics.

"Oh, yeah!
Well, what about...?"
​

Trump's consistently negative numbers are plummeting precipitously as he absconds primarily because he lacks the moral fiber and integrity to honestly admit he's a loser, and so incites an insurrection against the U.S. government.

Were it not for his goons' lethal attack on the Capitol, decent Americans would probably be astounded by his lack of empathy, consumed by self-pity, amidst the raging pandemic he failed to take seriously: In stark contradiction of his "It's under control!" and "Everybody's getting better!", there are now 24,017,094 confirmed case in the U.S. and 400,031 dead. (Back when Trump was still acknowledging the crisis, he falsely claimed that 20 million Americans would be vaccinated by the end of December.)

Of course, he hasn't had time to express concern for anyone else for quite some time.

 

[Pogo]

80 million Americans love Trump for being the best President this country ever had.

Linkety-link?

Actually even if you could linkety-link, MORE THAN 80 million voted against him, so it wouldn't matter.

Yea sure:
View attachment 443495

that's not a credible unbiased link. try again.

Did you expect him to find the evidence in the New York Times or CNN?

i expect a link - - - not a pic that can be altered & say anything. where's the reporting outlet that accompanies that pic? huh? huh huh HUH?

if the source can't pass muster in a research paper, then it's deemed unreliable. & a google image is not a source in & of itself, you poorly educated trump humper.

DOY.

Fingerboy has a long and troubled relationship with "newly discovered photos".

Ain't that right Fingerfuck?

 

[Correll]

History will note that the same people that thought that a man saying he is a woman, magically made him a woman,
were deeply offended over the idea of "America FIrst" ie, national policy based on advancing national interests,
and they will laugh at you as complete lunatics.

View attachment 444182
"Oh, yeah!
Well, what about...?"
​

Trump's consistently negative numbers are plummeting precipitously as he absconds primarily because he lacks the moral fiber and integrity to honestly admit he's a loser, and so incites an insurrection against the U.S. government.

Were it not for his goons' lethal attack on the Capitol, decent Americans would probably be astounded by his lack of empathy, consumed by self-pity, amidst the raging pandemic he failed to take seriously: In stark contradiction of his "It's under control!" and "Everybody's getting better!", there are now 24,017,094 confirmed case in the U.S. and 400,031 dead. (Back when Trump was still acknowledging the crisis, he falsely claimed that 20 million Americans would be vaccinated by the end of December.)

Of course, he hasn't had time to express concern for anyone else for quite some time.

If that was true, your side would not have felt the need to lie constantly and/or to censor so many people.


Your actions, in lying and censoring reveals that you know that your claims are false.

 

[schmidlap]

If that was true, your side would not have felt the need to lie constantly and/or to censor so many people.


Your actions, in lying and censoring reveals that you know that your claims are false.

I have neither lied nor censored anyone, nor can you honestly cite any examples of my having done so.

Nor has "my side", the majority of Americans who reject Trumpery.

How Popular Is Donald Trump?

FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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If you need to swallow Trump's lies - such as his absurd claim that he "won in a landslide!" - you might be prudent to refrain from repeating them.

 

[Correll]

If that was true, your side would not have felt the need to lie constantly and/or to censor so many people.


Your actions, in lying and censoring reveals that you know that your claims are false.

I have neither lied nor censored anyone, nor can you honestly cite any examples of my having done so.

Nor has "my side", the majority of Americans who reject Trumpery.

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How Popular Is Donald Trump?

FiveThirtyEight is tracking Donald Trump’s approval ratings throughout his presidency.

projects.fivethirtyeight.com

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If you need to swallow Trump's lies - such as his absurd claim that he "won in a landslide!" - you might be prudent to refrain from repeating them.

Funny, I specifically mention lying and censoring and you respond by citing an approval rating.


Almost as though you know my point about the lying and the censoring is so strong that you know you have no hope of disputing them.


If our situation was reversed I would have challenged you to name either the biggest lie or the biggest censorship that I could to support my position, or to admit that I could not.


We both know why you didn't do that.


Because my point is correct.


Your side lies and censors because it knows that it's positions and claims are bullshit.

 

[schmidlap]

Funny, I specifically mention lying and censoring and you respond by citing an approval rating...

Thread Title:
Trump Approval Rating Plummeting at a Record Rate

Regardless of your acusing me of being on topic, as clearly noted in my direct response to your fake claims, I have neither lied nor censored anyone, nor can you honestly cite any examples of my having done so.

 

[sealybobo]

He's done. Politically, legally, financially. His name is shit. He once had a shot to build a media empire. Now, outside of his willing sheep, there will be no one to give him money or a platform. Like the response to the virus, I can't see another way that Trump could have fucked things up worse than he did.

President Trump Job Approval | Election Other | RealClearPolitics

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

www.realclearpolitics.com

But the border wall!

Trump did more for black people than any other president including Lincoln

And I should be feeling what at this point in time?

Trump made your healthcare more affordable. He raised wages so much people people still couldn’t get by 2 months without paychecks. He raised growth from 2.2% to 2.3%. He stopped 1000 mexicans from getting in with his expensive wall. He pissed off muslims by taking out an Iranian general, for you. Bin Ladin no biggy though. He stopped Obama’s illegal wars and started his own, for you. You’re welcome.

What should you feel? Gratitude

Don't know what alternate university this was posted from but my healthcare went up and so did my taxes. And my porfolio went the other direction.

Course, I live in the Real World so maybe that explains it.

How did your taxes go up when they were lowered?

Corporations saw their income tax rates fall from 35% to 21%. Have you seven the debt? What about infrastructure spending? What about social security and Medicare?

I don’t think the crumbs you got were worth it.

Have I seven the debt? What about the other two? What crumbs? I directly benefitted from the cuts.

How much do you make and how many kids?

Two kids

AGI is mid six figures

Well no wonder you’re a republican.

I am an Independent. I don't belong to political parties. And Jeff Bezos is a Democrat. How does that correspond with your statement?

Bezos isn't a Democrat and is probably more independent than you are.

Is bezos for corporate tax breaks? Then he’s no democrat. Not a fiscal one. Maybe he is liberal on social issues but what matters most is fiscal.

Exactly. He's liberal on social issues but when it comes to money, he's more conservative than liberal.

From his wiki page:

View attachment 443696

A lot of republicans hate trump. I think trump has feuded with bezos publically. All the republicans who’ve broken from trump aren’t democrats now are they? I don’t think so.

At best Bezos is a deep state globalist rino.

I don't know what party affiliation Bezos is.

I don't have a party affiliation. I'm a liberal Independent.

My liberal beliefs used to come first. That is before the bush boy. I realized then that while I don't agree with democrats on a lot of things and they so need to grow spines, they are better than the republicans.

Ever since the bush boy, I vote against republicans/conservatives. If that means I have to vote for a democrat, so be it.

I don't have an idea what Jeff Bezos thinks about politics.

The only times I get mad at democrats is when they act too much like republicans. There are a few times Bill Clinton let us down. When he signed nafta or deregulated the media in 1996. He let us liberals down.

Or when Obama let the insurance giants write Obamacare. That was our chance for real healthcare reform but we settled. The healthcare lobby got to enough democrats who would vote WITH republicans.

Trump admitted it so why didn’t obama say bush lied us into Iraq?

So the only time democrats let me down is when they go along with republicans.

That is because you’re a leftist. I would never be a party sheep. Neither party gives two shits about you or me. We are here for ourselves. Funny how you can’t see that.

I knew which party is better for the middle class and which party is better for the middle class.

I also know it was liberal policies that created the huge middle class never seen before in human history. It wasn’t free market capitalism that got corporations to pay labor its fair share. It took unions.

And since unions have gone from 35% of the workforce to 10%, labor has been left behind.

You seem pretty well paid. Imagine if you only were worth $50,000 A year. And at the same time your bosses pay tripled. And this was happening everywhere because labor is no longer organized to fight it?

I disagree. 100%.

Unions have outgrown their use. Capitalism and innovation created the middle class. I am well paid because I took a major risk and started my own business. If you want to earn more money, start your own business or garner a marketable skill that pays what you want to earn.

I knew you were going to use that standard conservative mantra or talking point. Its ridiculous to say unions have outgrown their usefulness. Thats like saying if we remove the thing that forces employers to pay workers their fair share, employers will pay fairly without the unions.

We know this is untrue because of what’s happened the last few decades as unions went from representing 35% of the workforce to 10%. It’s not coincidence.

Just look at which companies have the widest gap between their CEOs and lowest paid workers. And look how much those CEOs make. They aren’t sharing with their employees.

Union companies pay their employees more. They also force non union companies to pay more for fear their good employees will leave or for fear their employees will organized.

 

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But the border wall!

Trump did more for black people than any other president including Lincoln

And I should be feeling what at this point in time?

Trump made your healthcare more affordable. He raised wages so much people people still couldn’t get by 2 months without paychecks. He raised growth from 2.2% to 2.3%. He stopped 1000 mexicans from getting in with his expensive wall. He pissed off muslims by taking out an Iranian general, for you. Bin Ladin no biggy though. He stopped Obama’s illegal wars and started his own, for you. You’re welcome.

What should you feel? Gratitude

Don't know what alternate university this was posted from but my healthcare went up and so did my taxes. And my porfolio went the other direction.

Course, I live in the Real World so maybe that explains it.

How did your taxes go up when they were lowered?

Corporations saw their income tax rates fall from 35% to 21%. Have you seven the debt? What about infrastructure spending? What about social security and Medicare?

I don’t think the crumbs you got were worth it.

Have I seven the debt? What about the other two? What crumbs? I directly benefitted from the cuts.

How much do you make and how many kids?

Two kids

AGI is mid six figures

Well no wonder you’re a republican.

I am an Independent. I don't belong to political parties. And Jeff Bezos is a Democrat. How does that correspond with your statement?

Bezos isn't a Democrat and is probably more independent than you are.

Is bezos for corporate tax breaks? Then he’s no democrat. Not a fiscal one. Maybe he is liberal on social issues but what matters most is fiscal.

Exactly. He's liberal on social issues but when it comes to money, he's more conservative than liberal.

From his wiki page:

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A lot of republicans hate trump. I think trump has feuded with bezos publically. All the republicans who’ve broken from trump aren’t democrats now are they? I don’t think so.

At best Bezos is a deep state globalist rino.

I don't know what party affiliation Bezos is.

I don't have a party affiliation. I'm a liberal Independent.

My liberal beliefs used to come first. That is before the bush boy. I realized then that while I don't agree with democrats on a lot of things and they so need to grow spines, they are better than the republicans.

Ever since the bush boy, I vote against republicans/conservatives. If that means I have to vote for a democrat, so be it.

I don't have an idea what Jeff Bezos thinks about politics.

The only times I get mad at democrats is when they act too much like republicans. There are a few times Bill Clinton let us down. When he signed nafta or deregulated the media in 1996. He let us liberals down.

Or when Obama let the insurance giants write Obamacare. That was our chance for real healthcare reform but we settled. The healthcare lobby got to enough democrats who would vote WITH republicans.

Trump admitted it so why didn’t obama say bush lied us into Iraq?

So the only time democrats let me down is when they go along with republicans.

That is because you’re a leftist. I would never be a party sheep. Neither party gives two shits about you or me. We are here for ourselves. Funny how you can’t see that.

I knew which party is better for the middle class and which party is better for the middle class.

I also know it was liberal policies that created the huge middle class never seen before in human history. It wasn’t free market capitalism that got corporations to pay labor its fair share. It took unions.

And since unions have gone from 35% of the workforce to 10%, labor has been left behind.

You seem pretty well paid. Imagine if you only were worth $50,000 A year. And at the same time your bosses pay tripled. And this was happening everywhere because labor is no longer organized to fight it?

I disagree. 100%.

Unions have outgrown their use. Capitalism and innovation created the middle class. I am well paid because I took a major risk and started my own business. If you want to earn more money, start your own business or garner a marketable skill that pays what you want to earn.

I knew you were going to use that standard conservative mantra or talking point. Its ridiculous to say unions have outgrown their usefulness. Thats like saying if we remove the thing that forces employers to pay workers their fair share, employers will pay fairly without the unions.

We know this is untrue because of what’s happened the last few decades as unions went from representing 35% of the workforce to 10%. It’s not coincidence.

Just look at which companies have the widest gap between their CEOs and lowest paid workers. And look how much those CEOs make. They aren’t sharing with their employees.

Union companies pay their employees more. They also force non union companies to pay more for fear their good employees will leave or for fear their employees will organized.

Logic is conservative mantra? LOL
unions also force companies who use them to pay more for services. Stupid. Again, if you don’t like your comp then go elsewhere. Employees aren’t slaves. You don’t seem to understand that concept. Why?