Trump and Musk: Two Grown Men Who Need To Grow The **** Up

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An evangelical is typically someone who follows evangelical Christianity, a movement within Protestantism that emphasizes personal conversion, the authority of the Bible, and spreading the Christian gospel. Evangelicals often believe in being "born again" and place a strong focus on missionary work and social activism. The term comes from the Greek word euangelion, meaning "good news" or "gospel".

Evangelicals can be found across various denominations and traditions, including Reformed, Holiness, Pentecostal, and Charismatic groups. Some well-known evangelical figures include Billy Graham, John Wesley, and Jonathan Edwards.

Polling organizations define evangelical identity in different ways, leading to variations in reported numbers. Here are the three main approaches:

1. Behavior-Based Definition – Some surveys, like early Gallup polls, define evangelicals by church attendance and religious participation. This method can exclude people who hold evangelical beliefs but don’t attend traditional evangelical churches.

2. Belonging-Based Definition – Other polls, such as Pew Research, rely on self-identification—asking respondents if they consider themselves evangelical. While this method captures a broad range of people, it can be too simplistic, as many evangelicals avoid the label.

3. Belief-Based Definition – Organizations like LifeWay Research and the National Association of Evangelicals use theological criteria to define evangelicals. Their surveys ask whether respondents strongly affirm core evangelical beliefs, such as the authority of the Bible and salvation through Jesus Christ.%

Because of these different definitions, estimates of evangelicals in the U.S. range from 7% to 47% of the population, depending on the survey method used. Would you like to explore how these definitions impact political and social trends?
7% is 18 million Your number was 4,000,000 total

you just gave me a high number of 122,000,000 evangelicals total


Its easy to accept 50 million voted for Trump in the last election.

But your 4 million figure is grossly idiotic based on absolute ignorance of the presence of Christianity in this country. 10 times worse because without white Christians, there would be no Republican Party in-service to the Oligarchs like Musk
 
Two grumpy old men. That's what my cynical side tells me. Kinda sorta like the movie with Walter Matthau, but not. My intelligent side though says these men are acting like children. Both of them.

All in all, they need to grow the fuck up. Seriously. There was a good thing going between the richest, most brilliant man this world has seen since Einstein, and Trump, who staged the greatest and what some see as the most miraculous political comeback in American history. But then when Trump found out an ally of Musk's, whom he nominated for NASA, was a Democrat (oh the horror!) he pulled him. That likely led to Musk voicing his displeasure with the BBB, and then today's row.

On one side, you have Musk, a centibillionaire and pioneering aerospace and technological innovator. On the other hand, you have Trump, the United States president twice, survivor of three separate assassination attempts, one of which almost killed him. Both, who should be projecting unity in the face of a feeble attempt by the left to take them down. But what happened? They did all the work for the left by going after each other's throats. In the left's lowest moment as a party, they give them substance and nourishment.

Trump and the GOP won't cut the pork, and Musk won't support it. And to tell you the truth, I kinda didn't like Musk before he got into politics, but I admired what he was doing for the aerospace industry. His vision for Mars ignited my imagination. I became one of his fans. However, now that Musk has gotten a taste of how savage DC politics are, he shouldn't be so naive. Three months is not sufficient experience. Musk was not prepared for the savagery that he would get for engaging the American political apparatus. Trump on the other hand, has a keen political instinct, it has served him well enough to get him elected twice. Musk would be wise to get back in Trump's good graces, and fast.

But in the end, I joined politics as a fiscal conservative (now classical liberal). What Trump is doing with the BBB is a travesty. He betrays my vote and faith in him when he endorses a bill with so much pork in it. Yeah, he aced immigration, but that's only one quantum of my conservatism. I want there to be spending cuts. What I don't want is a problem in search of a solution. I don't want presidents making agreements with people like Palantir for ways to keep and store my personal information. I don't care for people who lack conviction.

I agree with Musk in the end here, and I presume I always will. Musk to me is proving more a man of the people than Trump right now, and it disappoints me to say that.

With all that being said, they are both GROWN MEN who need to grow the fuck up. I've reached my limit of bullshit.

Out.
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A “man of the people”.... LOL
 
Boo hoo. A couple of awkward goons both born with silver spoons up their asses. Both never had to put in the effort. I'm supposed to just 'go along' with what these meatheads decide?

No. :rolleyes:
 
I’ve seen her on Anderson Cooper and she’s a frigging loon, fantasizing about being groped by powerful men. She lives in what looks like a hippie house and painted the trees and rocks. She’s a crackpot.
Whut do you think of Mike Pence for failing to obey Dear Leader Pussy Grabber in his attempt to overturn the 2020 election?

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It's sad. Ego meet ego
Elon started it.

If Trump were to sit there and take it....then the left would call him a pussy.

If this wasn't staged to get the left to stop attacking Elon, then all it tells me is Elon is the type that is used to always getting his way.

Anyone who gets elected to office in government discovers the same simple fact: Government is filled with corrupt politicians and designed to work at an extremely slow pace. (See the movie "Mr Smith Goes To Washington") Elon is used to just giving orders and getting things done. But you can't do that with members of congress. Herding Cats is what it's often called.
 
So you think you're doing exactly what you're accusing Christians of doing? Yet somehow think you're 'better', you're actually no different than those you claim to hate, you're actually worse and you're too stupid to even realize it. 🤡
Got it. Thanks.
 
7% is 18 million Your number was 4,000,000 total

you just gave me a high number of 122,000,000 evangelicals total


Its easy to accept 50 million voted for Trump in the last election.

But your 4 million figure is grossly idiotic based on absolute ignorance of the presence of Christianity in this country. 10 times worse because without white Christians, there would be no Republican Party in-service to the Oligarchs like Musk
You should love Musk now. He criticized Trump. Buy a Tesla.
 
Whut do you think of Mike Pence for failing to obey Dear Leader Pussy Grabber in his attempt to overturn the 2020 election?

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I have to LMAO about your "Rational Religion Revival." It sounds like a bunch of loons praising the lord and waving their hands in the air, dancing in circles around a campfire and speaking in tongues like the crazed loon who fantasized about Trump groping her. Not sure if she is any crazier than religious loons.
 
Got it. Thanks for your tip. I appreciate it. What would I do without your sage advice?

You aren't capable of following advice, you're a legend in your own mind, an ego the size of NY. Most atheists are like that because they don't believe in anything bigger than themselves. :dunno:
 
You aren't capable of following advice, you're a legend in your own mind, an ego the size of NY. Most atheists are like that because they don't believe in anything bigger than themselves. :dunno:
The females tell me that too. They are amazed.
 
And Putin isn't in a war over religion. 🤡
It is odd that a cohort of yours says wars and killings in various countries over the centuries were because the leaders were atheists. If that's the case, why isn't Putin's killing because he is a devout Christian? Also, Hitler was a Christian despite the lies that he wasn't.
 
It is odd that a cohort of yours says wars and killings in various countries over the centuries were because the leaders were atheists. If that's the case, why isn't Putin's killing because he is a devout Christian? Also, Hitler was a Christian despite the lies that he wasn't.

You have lost the argument, just accept it. :itsok:
 
I wouldn't worry too much about Christian Nationalism because they are fringe nutjobs
Everybody should worry about living under Christian authoritarianism especially you; since you think Christians mass murder people

So why did you want fringe nut job Russell Vought in charge of OMB? Why do you want and vote to put an indicted felon and Christian fringe nut job Don Trump back in the Whute Hiuse?

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