Trump and Evangelical religion pro's and con's. Should Religion even be involved in the election?

[Papageorgio]

Only men could vote in 1800. Washington never publicly disclosed his religious views . Adams Jefferson and Madison were rational Theists. They were not Bible believing blood of salvation Christians like today’s white evangelical Republican Christian nationalists are.

I would like to go back to the original religious atmosphere of our founding generation when only one out of five living in the thirteen colonies belonged to a church.

The rate today is 21% or 1 in 5, good grief!

 

[TruthNotBS]

Nope. That's not required.


That's awfully weak tea indeed. If a private employer pisses me off, I can quit right now. No need to wait for a ******* election. No need to convince voters to see things my way. They usually don't.


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Nope. That's not required.

You're speaking gibberish.

That's awfully weak tea indeed. If a private employer pisses me off, I can quit right now. No need to wait for a ******* election. No need to convince voters to see things my way. They usually don't.

You can quit and not have a source of income. How are you going to pay your bills? You'll go hungry and get evicted from your apartment or won't pay your mortgage until you find another job (another unaccountable dictator to work for). You'll lose your healthcare and any other benefits that you were receiving. You're trivializing the loss of employment, one's only lifeline, to having food, a roof..etc.

You can't leave your job and get another one and then leave that job and continue hopping from one job to another. One master to another. You need to work for your capitalist master (Adam Smith, called capitalists, "masters"), for at least several years or your work history is going to look like crap and no one will hire you. Then you're screwed. So this idea that you can just easily quit your job is preposterous and ridiculous.

A democratic government is actually less authoritarian and more accountable than a private employer.

 

[dblack]

You're speaking gibberish.

Nope. You claimed that quitting a job means you'll be homeless. I've quit lots of jobs. Was never homeless.

A democratic government is actually less authoritarian and more accountable than a private employer.

Utter bullshit. An employer can't have you arrested. And they can't shoot you if you defy them. You keep trying to make the same false equivalence, but you never address this core point.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Nope. You claimed that quitting a job means you'll be homeless. I've quit lots of jobs. Was never homeless.

Utter bullshit. An employer can't have you arrested. And they can't shoot you if you defy them. You keep trying to make the same false equivalence, but you never address this core point.

Do you quit a lot of jobs? Your work history must look like crap, What jobs are these? Fast food restaurants? Ridiculous. You can't just leave your job, and lose your only income, your healthcare..etc. You'll have to go maybe six months without health insurance.

 

[Papageorgio]

You're speaking gibberish.



You can quit and not have a source of income. How are you going to pay your bills? You'll go hungry and get evicted from your apartment or won't pay your mortgage until you find another job (another unaccountable dictator to work for). You'll lose your healthcare and any other benefits that you were receiving. You're trivializing the loss of employment, one's only lifeline, to having food, a roof..etc.

You can't leave your job and get another one and then leave that job and continue hopping from one job to another. One master to another. You need to work for your capitalist master (Adam Smith, called capitalists, "masters"), for at least several years or your work history is going to look like crap and no one will hire you. Then you're screwed. So this idea that you can just easily quit your job is preposterous and ridiculous.

A democratic government is actually less authoritarian and more accountable than a private employer.

I don’t work where I dont want to. I left a job a couple months ago, and found another, right a way. The idea that you work for bad employers is ridiculous. Grow a pair and quit, this will lead to change.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

The rate today is 21% or 1 in 5, good grief!

Not true!

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[Leo123]

My statement of fact was; there was a country in North America when George Washington was born.

What country was that?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

What country was that?

Great Britain

 

[Luckyone]

Woodrow Wilson for one, “Remember that God ordained that I should be the next president of the United States." Wilson later said that the United States had been created by God "to show the way to the nations of the world how they shall walk in the paths of liberty." Digital History

No go ahead and start spinning.

You got me there. By the same token, Wilson was one of our worst presidents ever. Much like Trump!

 

[TruthNotBS]

I don’t work where I dont want to. I left a job a couple months ago, and found another, right a way. The idea that you work for bad employers is ridiculous. Grow a pair and quit, this will lead to change.

So you jump from one exploiter to another. How many different jobs do you have yearly, two, or three? Your employment history on your resume must be two or three pages long. Many people have their health insurance through their employer, so if they're jumping from one employer to another, they won't have healthcare coverage. You also enjoy working in totalitarian environments. OK, I guess you're into spending most of your waking hours in a dictatorship.

 

[Leo123]

Great Britain

No, Washington was born in a British colony which was not a country. Indeed many of the colonists born in the colonies called themselves 'American' even though there was no formal country. Washington was born in Virginia.

 

[dblack]

Do you quit a lot of jobs? Your work history must look like crap,

Oh well. Still never been homeless. Maybe you're just exaggerating to scare people into submission?

 

[TruthNotBS]

Oh well. Still never been homeless. Maybe you're just exaggerating to scare people into submission?

Many people live paycheck to paycheck, hand to mouth, if they leave their jobs, they're homeless. They may not find a job for another three weeks, or even three months. They'll have to wait several months to get health insurance again.

 

[dblack]

Many people live paycheck to paycheck, hand to mouth, if they leave their jobs, they're homeless. They may not find a job for another three weeks, or even three months. They'll have to wait several months to get health insurance again.

Still beats the hell out of compulsory state employment.

 

[daveman]

Election interference is against the law no matter who you are and no matter what you think.


Don Trump is the one following the 2020 election who said “the Democrat didn’t win” and he is still saying it.

Don Trump has the right to say it, but he does not have a right to interfere in the election.

Trump has been indicted because he actually interfered in the 2020 election. It was certified by all 50 states after full well knowing that he had lost.. Donald Trump did not have a right to persuade Republicans in seven states to submit themselves as fake electors declaring Trump was the seven states that Trump had lost.

Freedom of speech is a *****, ain't it?

Yes, election interference is illegal in theory...but in practice, it all depends on whose side benefits from the interference. Facebook and Google, to name two, are interfering in this election on behalf of Democrats. Don't bother denying it; it's happening.

But you seem to be a little short on outrage about it.

 

[daveman]

This Christian is saying that Harris is an anti-Christ, then goes on to support Trump, as if he's not an anti-Christ. They measure everything upon the metric of abortion, and LGBTQ. OK, so they're the champions of fetuses or prenatal babies. How about the babies in Gaza, torn to pieces by American bombs and missiles, crushed under the rubble? Do these Christian holy rollers, supposed disciples of Jesus Christ, the champions of fetuses, care about those Palestinian babies? No, many of these Zionist Evangelicals watch videos of these Palestinians, being slaughtered by the Jews that they worship, and they could care less. Babies, women, the elderly, torn to pieces by the Israeli airforce, the Jewish gods that these Evangelicals serve like mindless slaves.

Trump is a blind Zionist, he's not MAGA, he's MIGA, Make Israel Great Again.

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Israel performs more abortions of convenience per capita or "willy nilly abortions" than the USA. The secular Jewish State of Israhell holds one of the largest sodomite pride parades in the world, in the Holy Land:

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Talk about "anti-Christ".

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You're voting for anti-Christ any which way you vote. It's all anti-Christ.

Oh. You're just another fuckin' proto-Nazi.

You can eat shit now.

 

[daveman]

Your error is in assuming that all socialists are leftists or Marxists. That's Cold War propaganda. I'm a non-Marxist socialist, who recognizes the accuracy of the Marxist critique of capitalism but rejects its views on materialism, God, religion, family, sexuality..etc. Some socialists are nationalists and socially conservative. They're not atheistic, materialists..etc. There are different types of socialism.

A non-Marxist socialist?

No such thing. Socialism is the gateway to Communism.

 

[daveman]

In our case, since we don't have the US trying to destroy us, we wouldn't centralize power, as they did, hence an American socialist government would be fully accountable to the American people, through an electoral, democratic process. The government in collaboration with American labor, would mass produce and deliver, all of the goods and services that we all consume. Rational central planning would continue until each consumer in America personally owns the technology to produce all of the goods and services they consume, without government infrastructure or anyone else.

That's the way to avoid techno-feudalism, which leads to 94% of the population, a.k.a. the working class, being consigned to the compost heap. I prefer democratic, national socialism, to feudalism.

You're retarded.

 

[daveman]

You won't be free without a good government or community.

War is Peace
Ignorance is Strength
Freedom is Slavery

Where have we heard that bullshit before?

Hey, Slappy, "1984" was a warning, not a business plan.

 

[daveman]

Exactly. National socialism is not good government.

Didn't work out too good for Germany, did it?