[Trump 2016] A Columnist Who Understands What is Going On

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Finally, a columnist who actually understands the situation! Kudos for Mr. Poulos!

James Poulos, The Week, Why Donald Trump's vicious attack on George W. Bush was so brutally effective — and brilliant

Why Donald Trump's vicious attack on George. W. Bush was so brutally effective - and brilliant

There was an uninvited guest onstage Saturday night at the latest and most brutal Republican presidential debate: George W. Bush.

The focus on Bush 43's legacy signals a big problem for the GOP. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who declared in a prior debate that he missed the bygone president, pronounced W the winner last night. But no matter how much Jeb Bush defended his brother, or Marco Rubio came to the former president's aid, that Bush's legacy abruptly became a question at all, at this very late date, dealt the establishment a potentially crippling blow.

Yes, the establishment — there's that word again, used advisedly but of necessity. For what was supposed to be more established a fact in the Republican Party but that George W. Bush — at a bare, bare minimum — was the right man in office on Sept. 11? Yet here was Donald Trump, naked in a way few have really seen him before, slamming home the message again and again: W messed up. He hurt the party. And he hurt the country.

"The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush," Trump growled. "He kept us safe? That is not safe." Technically true, but, as is so often the case with Trump, the details came second to theme, and the theme went far beyond 9/11 or the gasps and boos Trump's comments brought. Trump slapped W on Iraq, too. "The war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake. They lied," he said of Dubya's administration. "They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none."

Leave aside the particulars. (Saddam's men, ruled by fear and deceit, habitually lied and believed lies about their own WMD and other special weapons.) Trump's eye-popping broadsides against the Bush administration far exceeded some kind of coming-out party as a Democrat. Nor were they animated by a longing to merely belittle Jeb Bush or exact juvenile revenge. Rather, they were illustrative of the sweeping but specific theme of Trump's night and his campaign, revealed with typical deadpan cockiness in his closing remarks.

"Politicians are all talk, no action."

But wait, you say. George W. Bush took lots of action!

"You've seen where they've taken you to," Trump says. "We are [at a budget of] 19 trillion dollars right now […]. We need a very big change." Because, of course, "we don't win anymore."

Vacuous, you say. Pablum.

But consider the logic within. In a culture where "politics" has become an echo chamber — a vain hall of mirrors installed by the worship of rhetoric and self-regard — true politics, the art and science of victory, is dead. The kinds of action that arise from a corrupt political culture, from the corrupted idea that politics is a game of semiotics first, are, therefore, also corrupted: fake actions, actions without integrity, actions born to lose.

Trump is saying that, under George W. Bush, the Republican Party allowed its understanding of politics to be corrupted. For whatever reason, under Bush, the GOP became a party that let self-aware rhetorical posturing dictate the way policy was formulated. The result was failure across the board. Worst of all was the ensuing failure of memory as Republicans forgot the winning arts and sciences. In so doing, they enabled America to lose its way in the hall of mirrors — and lose its greatness.

This is a dagger to the heart of the Bush legacy.

But Trump is not just running against Bushism. He's running against what it's a symptom of — the certain kind of insider sophistry that he says defines the political class. That's why he was onstage at all last night. That's why he's in first place now. And that's why he's more at home in the GOP than so many want to admit.

To understand how that could possibly be, understand what he's not arguing.

The typical critique of politics today is that the ruling class has been corrupted by privilege. There's too much money in politics; there's too much of a cult of access; the tropes go on and on. Trump's not saying that. Instead, he's saying, the ruling class has been corrupted by foolishness. The problem isn't that "the politicians" have vanished behind the velvet rope. It's that they've vanished up their own rear ends. Obsessed with themselves, they have forgotten who they are. They have lost their way — and ours.

Hard as it is to stomach or say, that is a kind of wisdom so deep, so populist, and so potent that many conservatives can't help but flutter toward it. Then again, neither can many moderate or liberal Republicans, which is why Trump performs well across all groups.

To be sure, in some ways Trump is a dreadful messenger for this dreadful message. Then again, watching him up work up there like a Soviet wrestler, it's clear this man is not riding a fad or indulging a fantasy. An immense physical and mental strain is involved in hitting his fellow candidates — hungry, disciplined men — on issue after issue. He is delivering an intense message that no one else has proven capable of delivering with the requisite intensity: a shocking insight, when you pause to think about it, but for the fact that in this election year, nothing can shock anymore.
 
The typical critique of politics today is that the ruling class has been corrupted by privilege. There's too much money in politics; there's too much of a cult of access; the tropes go on and on. Trump's not saying that. Instead, he's saying, the ruling class has been corrupted by foolishness. The problem isn't that "the politicians" have vanished behind the velvet rope. It's that they've vanished up their own rear ends. Obsessed with themselves, they have forgotten

The typical trope? Really, the ruling class is awesome they just need to pull their heads out. They are just foolish. Politicians Behaving Badly. It's not the lobbyists, the corporations, or the money in politics.

You sure you want to run with that?

Look, the Republicans have been faced with the same problem that the Democrats have. The actual people, those not of the ruling elite, have been forced into assuming positions they would not ordinarily take by defending actions they don't agree with.
The difference between Bush II and his Republican predecessors is the internet. This drastically altered communication so people were no longer conversing just at the dinner table. Knowing this both the Democrats and the Republicans and the "ruling elite" have done a bang up job trying to prevent those conversations from happening by..........forcing people into assuming positions they would not ordinarily take and defending actions they do not agree with. What is happening to the Republicans is the exact same thing that is happening to the Democrats.
 
Finally, a columnist who actually understands the situation! Kudos for Mr. Poulos!

James Poulos, The Week, Why Donald Trump's vicious attack on George W. Bush was so brutally effective — and brilliant

Why Donald Trump's vicious attack on George. W. Bush was so brutally effective - and brilliant

There was an uninvited guest onstage Saturday night at the latest and most brutal Republican presidential debate: George W. Bush.

The focus on Bush 43's legacy signals a big problem for the GOP. Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who declared in a prior debate that he missed the bygone president, pronounced W the winner last night. But no matter how much Jeb Bush defended his brother, or Marco Rubio came to the former president's aid, that Bush's legacy abruptly became a question at all, at this very late date, dealt the establishment a potentially crippling blow.

Yes, the establishment — there's that word again, used advisedly but of necessity. For what was supposed to be more established a fact in the Republican Party but that George W. Bush — at a bare, bare minimum — was the right man in office on Sept. 11? Yet here was Donald Trump, naked in a way few have really seen him before, slamming home the message again and again: W messed up. He hurt the party. And he hurt the country.

"The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush," Trump growled. "He kept us safe? That is not safe." Technically true, but, as is so often the case with Trump, the details came second to theme, and the theme went far beyond 9/11 or the gasps and boos Trump's comments brought. Trump slapped W on Iraq, too. "The war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake. They lied," he said of Dubya's administration. "They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none."

Leave aside the particulars. (Saddam's men, ruled by fear and deceit, habitually lied and believed lies about their own WMD and other special weapons.) Trump's eye-popping broadsides against the Bush administration far exceeded some kind of coming-out party as a Democrat. Nor were they animated by a longing to merely belittle Jeb Bush or exact juvenile revenge. Rather, they were illustrative of the sweeping but specific theme of Trump's night and his campaign, revealed with typical deadpan cockiness in his closing remarks.

"Politicians are all talk, no action."

But wait, you say. George W. Bush took lots of action!

"You've seen where they've taken you to," Trump says. "We are [at a budget of] 19 trillion dollars right now […]. We need a very big change." Because, of course, "we don't win anymore."

Vacuous, you say. Pablum.

But consider the logic within. In a culture where "politics" has become an echo chamber — a vain hall of mirrors installed by the worship of rhetoric and self-regard — true politics, the art and science of victory, is dead. The kinds of action that arise from a corrupt political culture, from the corrupted idea that politics is a game of semiotics first, are, therefore, also corrupted: fake actions, actions without integrity, actions born to lose.

Trump is saying that, under George W. Bush, the Republican Party allowed its understanding of politics to be corrupted. For whatever reason, under Bush, the GOP became a party that let self-aware rhetorical posturing dictate the way policy was formulated. The result was failure across the board. Worst of all was the ensuing failure of memory as Republicans forgot the winning arts and sciences. In so doing, they enabled America to lose its way in the hall of mirrors — and lose its greatness.

This is a dagger to the heart of the Bush legacy.

But Trump is not just running against Bushism. He's running against what it's a symptom of — the certain kind of insider sophistry that he says defines the political class. That's why he was onstage at all last night. That's why he's in first place now. And that's why he's more at home in the GOP than so many want to admit.

To understand how that could possibly be, understand what he's not arguing.

The typical critique of politics today is that the ruling class has been corrupted by privilege. There's too much money in politics; there's too much of a cult of access; the tropes go on and on. Trump's not saying that. Instead, he's saying, the ruling class has been corrupted by foolishness. The problem isn't that "the politicians" have vanished behind the velvet rope. It's that they've vanished up their own rear ends. Obsessed with themselves, they have forgotten who they are. They have lost their way — and ours.

Hard as it is to stomach or say, that is a kind of wisdom so deep, so populist, and so potent that many conservatives can't help but flutter toward it. Then again, neither can many moderate or liberal Republicans, which is why Trump performs well across all groups.

To be sure, in some ways Trump is a dreadful messenger for this dreadful message. Then again, watching him up work up there like a Soviet wrestler, it's clear this man is not riding a fad or indulging a fantasy. An immense physical and mental strain is involved in hitting his fellow candidates — hungry, disciplined men — on issue after issue. He is delivering an intense message that no one else has proven capable of delivering with the requisite intensity: a shocking insight, when you pause to think about it, but for the fact that in this election year, nothing can shock anymore.


Agree with the synopsis, but doubt seriously if that was Trump's intent, any viewers got it.

And yet, Trump is the only GOPer besides Carson who can run against the GW legacy and make it believable. If he turns his message into, "GW was a nice man who got it wrong, leaving us his legacy to defend," he may yet look like a brilliant politician, and make the rest of the candidates appear as fools!
 
"Bush lied, people died."

Straight out of the far left wing of the Democratic Party.
Party, party, how about reality? If you seriously think the war against Iraq is good and we were safe when buildings fell, I don't know what to say to you...
Lying for the party does NOT make it great!
 
You want reality fine here's a dose of reality, it was not just Bush who was on board with the war in Iraq but many world leaders and a good share of Democrats in congress including many of the Democrat party leaders. In fact Democrats demanded a second vote so that more of them could change their vote to support the war.
 
You want reality fine here's a dose of reality, it was not just Bush who was on board with the war in Iraq but many world leaders and a good share of Democrats in congress including many of the Democrat party leaders. In fact Democrats demanded a second vote so that more of them could change their vote to support the war.
No you didn't get it. Stop talking about the democrats or the republicans! Let's say what you said is true, then they collectively made a mistake!
The thing that annoys us is that the politicians no longer speak the truth. Instead, they believe that only by cheating can they survive the political competition. Therefore, they cheat. What they fail to understand is that the truth is always in the heart of the people, waiting to be voiced by those who have the courage to stand up against the lies. It's like the Emperor's New Clothes - once the "little girl" appears, the whole thing will collapse. Fortunately for us, that time has come.
 
You want reality fine here's a dose of reality, it was not just Bush who was on board with the war in Iraq but many world leaders and a good share of Democrats in congress including many of the Democrat party leaders. In fact Democrats demanded a second vote so that more of them could change their vote to support the war.
No you didn't get it. Stop talking about the democrats or the republicans! Let's say what you said is true, then they collectively made a mistake!
The thing that annoys us is that the politicians no longer speak the truth. Instead, they believe that only by cheating can they survive the political competition. Therefore, they cheat. What they fail to understand is that the truth is always in the heart of the people, waiting to be voiced by those who have the courage to stand up against the lies. It's like the Emperor's New Clothes - once the "little girl" appears, the whole thing will collapse. Fortunately for us, that time has come.

What I said is true its not a theory its fact in the written record. Its you who needs to come to grips with the facts. Here are some more facts, congress repeatedly voted to continue funding the war when they had the power to stop the war by defunding it, fact. A majority of Americans cheering for the war, another inconvenient fact for you. Did they vote Bush out after his first term? No. So stop playing the blame game and armchair quarterbacking.
 
You want reality fine here's a dose of reality, it was not just Bush who was on board with the war in Iraq but many world leaders and a good share of Democrats in congress including many of the Democrat party leaders. In fact Democrats demanded a second vote so that more of them could change their vote to support the war.
No you didn't get it. Stop talking about the democrats or the republicans! Let's say what you said is true, then they collectively made a mistake!
The thing that annoys us is that the politicians no longer speak the truth. Instead, they believe that only by cheating can they survive the political competition. Therefore, they cheat. What they fail to understand is that the truth is always in the heart of the people, waiting to be voiced by those who have the courage to stand up against the lies. It's like the Emperor's New Clothes - once the "little girl" appears, the whole thing will collapse. Fortunately for us, that time has come.

What I said is true its not a theory its fact in the written record. Its you who needs to come to grips with the facts. Here are some more facts, congress repeatedly voted to continue funding the war when they had the power to stop the war by defunding it, fact. A majority of Americans cheering for the war, another inconvenient fact for you. Did they vote Bush out after his first term? No. So stop playing the blame game and armchair quarterbacking.
"A majority of Americans cheering for the war"? You must be living in a very different world!
Yes they did vote for Bush, because he seemed better OUT OF THE TWO; and guess what, many people would regret their decision by the end of his term just like what happened with Obama!
As for the vote in the Congress - you speak as though the Congress always makes sense! What a brilliant idea!
 
You want reality fine here's a dose of reality, it was not just Bush who was on board with the war in Iraq but many world leaders and a good share of Democrats in congress including many of the Democrat party leaders. In fact Democrats demanded a second vote so that more of them could change their vote to support the war.
No you didn't get it. Stop talking about the democrats or the republicans! Let's say what you said is true, then they collectively made a mistake!
The thing that annoys us is that the politicians no longer speak the truth. Instead, they believe that only by cheating can they survive the political competition. Therefore, they cheat. What they fail to understand is that the truth is always in the heart of the people, waiting to be voiced by those who have the courage to stand up against the lies. It's like the Emperor's New Clothes - once the "little girl" appears, the whole thing will collapse. Fortunately for us, that time has come.

What I said is true its not a theory its fact in the written record. Its you who needs to come to grips with the facts. Here are some more facts, congress repeatedly voted to continue funding the war when they had the power to stop the war by defunding it, fact. A majority of Americans cheering for the war, another inconvenient fact for you. Did they vote Bush out after his first term? No. So stop playing the blame game and armchair quarterbacking.
"A majority of Americans cheering for the war"? You must be living in a very different world!
Yes they did vote for Bush, because he seemed better OUT OF THE TWO; and guess what, many people would regret their decisions now just like what happened with Obama!
As for the vote in the Congress - you speak as though the Congress always makes sense! What a brilliant idea!

Bush a better choice than Mr. anti-war Kerry? Americans had a clear choice, they picked Bush. Just come to grips with that and you will feel better.
 
You want reality fine here's a dose of reality, it was not just Bush who was on board with the war in Iraq but many world leaders and a good share of Democrats in congress including many of the Democrat party leaders. In fact Democrats demanded a second vote so that more of them could change their vote to support the war.
No you didn't get it. Stop talking about the democrats or the republicans! Let's say what you said is true, then they collectively made a mistake!
The thing that annoys us is that the politicians no longer speak the truth. Instead, they believe that only by cheating can they survive the political competition. Therefore, they cheat. What they fail to understand is that the truth is always in the heart of the people, waiting to be voiced by those who have the courage to stand up against the lies. It's like the Emperor's New Clothes - once the "little girl" appears, the whole thing will collapse. Fortunately for us, that time has come.

What I said is true its not a theory its fact in the written record. Its you who needs to come to grips with the facts. Here are some more facts, congress repeatedly voted to continue funding the war when they had the power to stop the war by defunding it, fact. A majority of Americans cheering for the war, another inconvenient fact for you. Did they vote Bush out after his first term? No. So stop playing the blame game and armchair quarterbacking.
"A majority of Americans cheering for the war"? You must be living in a very different world!
Yes they did vote for Bush, because he seemed better OUT OF THE TWO; and guess what, many people would regret their decisions now just like what happened with Obama!
As for the vote in the Congress - you speak as though the Congress always makes sense! What a brilliant idea!

Bush a better choice than Mr. anti-war Kerry? Americans had a clear choice, they picked Bush. Just come to grips with that and you will feel better.
Better? That is exactly the sad part, because we made a wrong decision! Ask anyone who is not an establishment diehard, they will tell you that Bush was a lousy president. Bush is a liability of the Republican party which the establishment dare not to admit - they are so afraid that if they admitted it, they would be fired by the American people and defeated terribly by the democrats! They are just a bunch of cowards trying to distort the reality rather than fixing their problems!
 

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