Tone Down the Rhetoric?

[sealybobo]

Refusing to hear the case tosses nothing out. What makes you think it does?

With these recent revelations about Trump and Russia, does it even matter?

When Trump was telling us to drink bleach he was sending Putin our covid equipment? Fuck that!

 

[Nostra]

Shorter version

That’s different……

 

[M14 Shooter]

How is Trump fascist? What has he DONE that is fascist. Let's have a real answer.

MSDNC told them Trump is a fascist and racist, so it must be true.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

You had plenty of statements from Right. wingers that said the same thing. No need to play the switch a roo game…. Yall have been saying that crap from the start

1. Not as a unified party slogan
2. when you have the MSM trumpeting it 24/7 as well, it causes weak people to want to feel virtuous and murder Trump, because they really believe the world will end if he’s elected.

Specifically the left and democrats, along with horrible people in the MSM, need to admit that the USA will continue if Trump is elected

Democrat rhetoric has caused the shooting up of a GOP softball game, a BLM sniper to murder multiple police officers, an assassination attempt on Brett Kavanaugh, BLM riots that caused billions in damage, thousands injured, and 30-40 murdered, and now 2 assassination attempts on Trump.

Your side needs to tone it down way more, you’ve been far more violent and dangerous

 

[Slade3200]

1. Not as a unified party slogan
2. when you have the MSM trumpeting it 24/7 as well, it causes weak people to want to feel virtuous and murder Trump, because they really believe the world will end if he’s elected.

Specifically the left and democrats, along with horrible people in the MSM, need to admit that the USA will continue if Trump is elected

Democrat rhetoric has caused the shooting up of a GOP softball game, a BLM sniper to murder multiple police officers, an assassination attempt on Brett Kavanaugh, BLM riots that caused billions in damage, thousands injured, and 30-40 murdered, and now 2 assassination attempts on Trump.

Your side needs to tone it down way more, you’ve been far more violent and dangerous

Trump started calling Biden the Destroyer of democracy over a year ago… made very similar claims for years prior… the drum beat has only amplified by him and his crew. They are fueled by lies and trolling

Trump calls Biden the 'destroyer' of democracy despite his own efforts to overturn 2020 election

Donald Trump is trying to turn the tables on President Joe Biden by arguing the Democratic incumbent is the actual threat to democracy.

apnews.com

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Trump started calling Biden the Destroyer of democracy over a year ago… made very similar claims for years prior… the drum beat has only amplified by him and his crew. They are fueled by lies and trolling

Trump calls Biden the 'destroyer' of democracy despite his own efforts to overturn 2020 election

Donald Trump is trying to turn the tables on President Joe Biden by arguing the Democratic incumbent is the actual threat to democracy.

apnews.com

Explain all the violence from the left I listed.

 

[Slade3200]

Explain all the violence from the left I listed.

Nothing to explain. Whackos acting out. If you’re going to attribute it to the political language being used by candidates then you need to apply the same thing to Trump who has been saying the same stuff and worse for much longer. The heat is so high because he turned it up. That’s his brand. It’s why he is loved by extremists and hated so intensely by his opposition

 

[M14 Shooter]

Explain all the violence from the left I listed.

The left believes it is entitled to engage in political violence.
Of course, it only does so within the confines of friendly governments and in the absence of those who can effectively resist.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Nothing to explain. Whackos acting out. If you’re going to attribute it to the political language being used by candidates then you need to apply the same thing to Trump who has been saying the same stuff and worse for much longer. The heat is so high because he turned it up. That’s his brand. It’s why he is loved by extremists and hated so intensely by his opposition

So here we go, let’s be consistent.

I hold none directly accountable for violence.

You hold Trump accountable, but not Biden, Harris, Sanders, Obama, Pelosi, etc for objectively far worse acts of violence.

So this is a consistency check. Either say they all are accountable for murder/crime or they’re not. Right now you make no sense, and just look to be the latest hack who has no standards

 

[krichton]

Trump literally goes on rants about Harris being a marxist, how we're headed toward WWIII if she is elected, how this country will be destroyed in way, "the likes of which we've never seen before," a favorite phrase of the Donald. The rhetoric started with Obama and it hasn't stopped since then. Is it any wonder why we have so many nutters coming out of the woodworks and focused on where all the crazy is emanating from?

 

[Slade3200]

You hold Trump accountable

I don’t hold Trump accountable for other people’s violence but I think more than anybody I’ve ever seen in politics he pushes lies hate and division to progress his agenda. He feeds off it and it creates hateful supporters on his side and a hateful opposition against him.

 

[krichton]

I don’t hold Trump accountable for other people’s violence but I think more than anybody I’ve ever seen in politics he pushes lies hate and division to progress his agenda. He feeds off it and it creates hateful supporters on his side and a hateful opposition against him.

Would we have loons like MTG, Kari Lake, Mark Harris and Broebert, just to name a few if Trump had never ran and won office? I highly doubt it. Who here can say with a straight face that Trump isn't the king of divisiveness and chaos? He literally takes any and every opportunity to cultivate hate and anger. Look at how he even politicized hurricane Helene and likely Milton next.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

I don’t hold Trump accountable for other people’s violence but I think more than anybody I’ve ever seen in politics he pushes lies hate and division to progress his agenda. He feeds off it and it creates hateful supporters on his side and a hateful opposition against him.

He was the response to Obama, and his demonization of America and racist identity politics doctrine.

Not that I back all rhetoric, but Obamas ideology should be met with complete opposition and contempt. It’s a horrible immoral doctrine, and he was quick and nasty to demonize conservatives throughout his 2012 campaign

Biden has been the worst of all though. Worse than Obama, worse than Trump

 

[Slade3200]

Would we have loons like MTG, Kari Lake, Mark Harris and Broebert, just to name a few if Trump had never ran and won office? I highly doubt it. Who here can say with a straight face that Trump isn't the king of divisiveness and chaos? He literally takes any and every opportunity to cultivate hate and anger. Look at how he even politicized hurricane Helene and likely Milton next.

Agreed

 

[Slade3200]

He was the response to Obama, and his demonization of America and racist identity politics doctrine.

Not that I back all rhetoric, but Obamas ideology should be met with complete opposition and contempt. It’s a horrible immoral doctrine, and he was quick and nasty to demonize conservatives throughout his 2012 campaign

Biden has been the worst of all though. Worse than Obama, worse than Trump

Go back and pick the most divisive / hateful thing you can find from Obama. Let’s see how it compares to the daily spew of Trump. I bet you can’t find anything even close

 

[SeaMajor7]

Trump literally goes on rants about Harris being a marxist, how we're headed toward WWIII if she is elected, how this country will be destroyed in way, "the likes of which we've never seen before," a favorite phrase of the Donald. The rhetoric started with Obama and it hasn't stopped since then. Is it any wonder why we have so many nutters coming out of the woodworks and focused on where all the crazy is emanating from?

Trump's statements are TRUE.
The demented LEFT have embraced Marxism.

 

[Seymour Flops]

"Tone down the rhetoric" unless you're a Trump hater. Then it's OK to keep trying to get Trump assassinated with your hyperbolic narratives.

It is coming up on a full decade that these people have woken up every morning and gone to bed every night with elevated blood pressure, headaches, shaking hands, TMJ, increased heart rate, and reduced sex drive, caused by their obsessing over Trump.

With that kind of pressure that they put on themselves, the wonderment to me is that none of them snapped and started shooting years ago.

 

[Mr. Friscus]

Go back and pick the most divisive / hateful thing you can find from Obama. Let’s see how it compares to the daily spew of Trump. I bet you can’t find anything even close

I’m focused on content, not tact. You leftists always get hung up on how someone says something rather than what they say. You’re the more emotional nurturing party, which deals less in rationality than conservatism does.

You give the crying child the candy bar they want, we say no it’s bad for you.

Obama was historically divisive in his racial ideology and his constant finger pointing against the USA. He started all the culture war we see today. All the victim groups we see parading around were conjured by Obama’s mainstreaming of identity politics

 

[Slade3200]

I’m focused on content, not tact. You leftists always get hung up on how someone says something rather than what they say. You’re the more emotional nurturing party, which deals less in rationality than conservatism does.

You give the crying child the candy bar they want, we say no it’s bad for you.

Obama was historically divisive in his racial ideology and his constant finger pointing against the USA. He started all the culture war we see today. All the victim groups we see parading around were conjured by Obama’s mainstreaming of identity politics

I’d counter by saying the way our Nations leader communicates is pretty damn important. But that’s another debate. Let’s roll off your premise and ignore the words and tone. Just look at content. Go ahead and show the worst of Obama. What’s the most hateful and divisive quote you can find. We can look at the content of it

 

[krichton]

He was the response to Obama, and his demonization of America and racist identity politics doctrine.

Not that I back all rhetoric, but Obamas ideology should be met with complete opposition and contempt. It’s a horrible immoral doctrine, and he was quick and nasty to demonize conservatives throughout his 2012 campaign

Biden has been the worst of all though. Worse than Obama, worse than Trump

Please provide some examples of Obama doing just that. Provide examples of Biden doing it.