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[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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I have a friend who lost her son early in the Middle East fighting, and they have finally named a bridge for him in their hometown.


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[Foxfyre]

Unless Dementia is kicking in, I remember that the only person that gets 21 gun salutes is the president.
Your Uncle got 18.
I was on the gun team that fired 18 salvos at the funeral for one of my friends.

Presidents and some other high ranking officials, visiting royalty, some classes of veterans, especially those of exemplary service--say Silver Star/Medal of Honor recipients and such--can receive a 21 gun salute if it is requested by the family. But there was no gun salute at my Uncle's funeral. He had everything else though, the bugler etc.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Presidents and some other high ranking officials, visiting royalty, some classes of veterans, especially those of exemplary service--say Silver Star/Medal of Honor recipients and such--can receive a 21 gun salute if it is requested by the family. But there was no gun salute at my Uncle's funeral. He had everything else though, the bugler etc.

My father had a US Navy graveside service. Gun salute ( no idea how many volleys) taps and presentation of the flag to my mother

Very professional

 

[The Duke]

Presidents and some other high ranking officials, visiting royalty, some classes of veterans, especially those of exemplary service--say Silver Star/Medal of Honor recipients and such--can receive a 21 gun salute if it is requested by the family. But there was no gun salute at my Uncle's funeral. He had everything else though, the bugler etc.

My uncle had a 21-gunner. It was 7 rifles fired 3x.

 

[mudwhistle]

Presidents and some other high ranking officials, visiting royalty, some classes of veterans, especially those of exemplary service--say Silver Star/Medal of Honor recipients and such--can receive a 21 gun salute if it is requested by the family. But there was no gun salute at my Uncle's funeral. He had everything else though, the bugler etc.

I stand corrected.
Sometimes they can't get together enough volunteers to do it at a veteran's funeral. Also, some families choose not to have a gun salute.
The honor guard for my friend were me and 5 other guys on my ODA that were members from 521....and his team was 523 and helped carry his casket and folded the flag.

 

[mudwhistle]

My uncle had a 21-gunner. It was 7 rifles fired 3x.

When was the funeral?

 

[The Duke]

When was the funeral?

Oh geez, decades ago. I done buried his son now.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I stand corrected.
Sometimes they can't get together enough volunteers to do it at a veteran's funeral. Also, some families choose not to have a gun salute.
The fire team for my friend were me and 5 other guys on my ODA that were members from 521....and his team was 523 and carried his casket and folded the flag.

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Although my hubby's funeral was during covid -- only 10 attendees, etc -- we had many Patriot Guard Riders, 7 in the Marine Guard who fired the tribute, two Airmen who handled the flag, a bugler and a piper. Quite a crew, although none of us got to speak to them.


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[mudwhistle]

Presidents and some other high ranking officials, visiting royalty, some classes of veterans, especially those of exemplary service--say Silver Star/Medal of Honor recipients and such--can receive a 21 gun salute if it is requested by the family. But there was no gun salute at my Uncle's funeral. He had everything else though, the bugler etc.

D&C is something I wasn't really into.

But here's the explanation:

Three-Volley Salute
Calling the shots fired at a military funeral a 21-gun salute is incorrect. Even if there are seven soldiers firing three rounds each, this is not considered a 21-gun salute. The shots fired during a military funeral are called the firing of three volleys in honor of the fallen.


The firing of three volleys dates back to the custom of ceasing hostilities to remove the dead from the battlefield. Once finished, both sides would fire three volleys to signal that they were ready to resume the battle.


During the firing of three volleys, the rifles are fired three times simultaneously by the honor guard. Any service member who died on active duty, as well as honorably discharged veterans and military retirees, can receive a military funeral, which includes the three volleys, the playing of "Taps" along with a United States flag presented to the next of kin. Three spent cases are usually inserted into the folded flag, one representing each volley fired.

An Official Journal Of The NRA | History of U.S. Military Gun Salutes

Military salutes are are steeped in tradition and intended to demonstrate great honor to those for whom they are conducted, yet misconceptions exist. Let's clear them up.

www.americanrifleman.org

 

[Foxfyre]

My uncle had a 21-gunner. It was 7 rifles fired 3x.

My Uncle had a Distinguished Service Medal and he may have been eligible for that, but I don't know. I am pretty sure the family didn't request it though and it has to be requested.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

My Uncle had a Distinguished Service Medal and he may have been eligible for that, but I don't know. I am pretty sure the family didn't request it though and it has to be requested.

My father's funeral director handled his. They verified his service and honorable discharge.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

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I need to give props to the local Veterans' Service Center in the town we lived in, who planned the entire thing for me. I didn't have to lift a finger.

I baked pies for those men and women for quite a while after, to show them my gratitude. Beautiful people.


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[SassyIrishLass]

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I need to give props to the local Veterans' Service Center in the town we lived in, who planned the entire thing for me. I didn't have to lift a finger.

I baked pies for those men and women for quite a while after, to show them my gratitude. Beautiful people.


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The local American Legion sent a group for my father but they deferred to the Naval contingent.

 

[mudwhistle]

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Although my hubby's funeral was during covid -- only 10 attendees, etc -- we had many Patriot Guard Riders, 7 in the Marine Guard who fired the tribute, two Airmen who handled the flag, a bugler and a piper. Quite a crew, although none of us got to speak to them.


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We didn't speak to the family of my friend. (I did that at the wake the day before).
He was from WV and everyone there looked like a copy of him.
They had two funerals for him, and fired volleys at both. One at Ft Campbell KY, and one in his hometown at his burial service at the cemetery.
We showed our respect better by firing those volleys.

 

[mudwhistle]

My Uncle had a Distinguished Service Medal and he may have been eligible for that, but I don't know. I am pretty sure the family didn't request it though and it has to be requested.

He probably got 3 volleys.
A 21 gun salute is 21 volleys.


Queen Elisabeth got 96.

Wow....this thread is becoming educational.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

He probably got 3 volleys.
A 21 gun salute is 21 volleys.


Queen Elisabeth got 96.

Wow....this thread is becoming educational.

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That's what hubby got -- three volleys.

And the number of shells that were presented to me by the head of the Marine Guard who fired the salute.


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[Foxfyre]

He probably got 3 volleys.
A 21 gun salute is 21 volleys.


Queen Elisabeth got 96.

Wow....this thread is becoming educational.

I'm working from memory now and it has been awhile since I looked up military protocol but I think you're right that seven riflemen firing three volleys at the gravesite is not a 21-gun salute.

I think the true 21-gun salute has to be cannon fire.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I'm working from memory now and it has been awhile since I looked up military protocol but I think you're right that seven riflemen firing three volleys at the gravesite is not a 21-gun salute.

I think the true 21-gun salute has to be cannon fire.

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You might be right!


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[mudwhistle]

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That's what hubby got -- three volleys.

And the number of shells that were presented to me by the head of the Marine Guard who fired the salute.


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I looked it up on Wiki....and they don't even have enlisted soldiers listed.
They get 3 volleys, I guess.

The VP gets 19.
The POTUS and other heads of state gets 21.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I looked it up on Wiki....and they don't even have enlisted soldiers listed.
They get 3 volleys, I guess.

The VP gets 19.
The POTUS and other heads of state gets 21.

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Thank you.


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