Today...Smashing The Lie That Nazis Were Rightwing.

[Picaro]

You're not a Rightwinger

Believe me.

Republicans hated FDR
Hitler hated FDR

Therefore, Republicans are Nazis

Connect the dots

"Hitler hated FDR"

Of course he didn't.
Dictators stick together.

1. The National Socialists hailed these ‘relief measures’ in ways you will recognize:
   1. May 11, 1933, the Nazi newspaper Volkischer Beobachter, (People’s Observer): “Roosevelt’s Dictatorial Recovery Measures.”
   2. And on January 17, 1934, “We, too, as German National Socialists are looking toward America…” and “Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’
   3. And “[Roosevelt], too demands that collective good be put before individual self-interest. Many passages in his book ‘Looking Forward’ could have been written by a National Socialist….one can assume that he feels considerable affinity with the National Socialist philosophy.”
   4. The paper also refers to “…the fictional appearance of democracy.”
2. In 1938, American ambassador Hugh R. Wilson reported to FDR his conversations with Hitler: “Hitler then said that he had watched with interest the methods which you, Mr. President, have been attempting to adopt for the United States…. I added that you were very much interested in certain phases of the sociological effort, notably for the youth and workmen, which is being made in Germany…” cited in “Franklin D. Roosevelt and Foreign Affairs,” vol.2, p. 27.

“Roosevelt’s adoption of National Socialist strains of thought in his economic and social policies” comparable to Hitler’s own dictatorial ‘Fuhrerprinzip.’

Is there anything you don't lie about?


Anything?

Nice try Frau Braun

After your repeated condemnations of FDR for fighting the Nazis, your protestations ring shallow

Republicans = Nazis

Let's see....
Me:
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


or

Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Fascists, Socialists, Communists and you:
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.



How's that Brown Shirt fitting you, liar?

If Hitler were alive today.....He would be voting Republican

Probably, since he was a huge fan of Abraham Lincoln's dictatorship, and especially his and his generals and their enthusiasm for mass murder and 'total war'.

 

[Picaro]

The black shirts and Nazis referred to themselves as 'Third Positionists'; they didn't consider themselves to be right wing conservatives nor left wing communists, so everybody can make up what they want re them. I think it's pretty clear Hitler didn't really care what the intellectuals thought about anything and just did what suited himself, same as Mao or Wilhelm II did, or most dictators do.

I think Tito was the only real standout as a competent politician from that era; he had his hands full with all kinds of lunatic ethnic nationalists running around, and I don't see any particular ideology being very effective in his corner of the world, yet he managed to do as well as could be expected under the circumstances.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The black shirts and Nazis referred to themselves as 'Third Positionists'; they didn't consider themselves to be right wing conservatives nor left wing communists, so everybody can make up what they want re them. I think it's pretty clear Hitler didn't really care what the intellectuals thought about anything and just did what suited himself, same as Mao or Wilhelm II did, or most dictators do.

I think Tito was the only real standout as a competent politician from that era; he had his hands full with all kinds of lunatic ethnic nationalists running around, and I don't see any particular ideology being very effective in his corner of the world, yet he managed to do as well as could be expected under the circumstances.

Here is a little quiz that will show just how wrong you are:


Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

 

[regent]

Did the German industrialists support Hitler?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Did the German industrialists support Hitler?

"Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.


2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners."


Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....all with the very same views and objectives.

In America, these views can be laid at the feet of Franklin Roosevelt.

 

[Picaro]

Did the German industrialists support Hitler?

Yes, they did; that's why he tossed the Strasserites under the bus within hours after he got their support, particularly of the Kruppe networks. A former Kruppe manager was chief of the Prussian Police, a man Hitler courted and won support from, an important man in a time when the Army was effectively useless an unable to oppose the street gangs and private armies over-running the country, due to a very bad idea determined at Versailles. He forced union wages to barely subsistence levels, and put Gestapo operatives on shop floors all over Germany to keep them from slow-downs and strikes.

One of the better books on life in Germany under Nazi administration:

Inside Nazi Germany | Yale University Press

His book on the Wiemar Republic is also very good. Reading them in order of the timeline from the end of WW I to WW II is highly recommended.

 

[Picaro]

The black shirts and Nazis referred to themselves as 'Third Positionists'; they didn't consider themselves to be right wing conservatives nor left wing communists, so everybody can make up what they want re them. I think it's pretty clear Hitler didn't really care what the intellectuals thought about anything and just did what suited himself, same as Mao or Wilhelm II did, or most dictators do.

I think Tito was the only real standout as a competent politician from that era; he had his hands full with all kinds of lunatic ethnic nationalists running around, and I don't see any particular ideology being very effective in his corner of the world, yet he managed to do as well as could be expected under the circumstances.

Here is a little quiz that will show just how wrong you are:


Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

Now you're just getting even more ridiculous. Ann Coulter is not a scholar of any kind, FYI.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The black shirts and Nazis referred to themselves as 'Third Positionists'; they didn't consider themselves to be right wing conservatives nor left wing communists, so everybody can make up what they want re them. I think it's pretty clear Hitler didn't really care what the intellectuals thought about anything and just did what suited himself, same as Mao or Wilhelm II did, or most dictators do.

I think Tito was the only real standout as a competent politician from that era; he had his hands full with all kinds of lunatic ethnic nationalists running around, and I don't see any particular ideology being very effective in his corner of the world, yet he managed to do as well as could be expected under the circumstances.

Here is a little quiz that will show just how wrong you are:


Let's begin with definitions.
Nazism, communism, socialism..Liberalism, Progressivism,.and fascism....

1. Which stem from the works of Karl Marx?
2. Which is a form of command and control big government?
3. Which has no problem with genocide, actual or figurative, as an accepted procedure on its political enemies?
4. Which is based on the collective over the individual?
5. Which oppresses and/or slaughters its own citizens as pro forma (including depriving them of a living)....?
6. Which represents totalitarian governance?
7. Which believes that mandating/dictating every aspect of their citizen's lives is their prerogative?
8. Which aims for an all-encompassing state that centralizes power to perfect human nature by controlling every aspect of life

9. Which restricts free speech and thought?

10. Which can be summed up in Hegel's “The state says … you must obey …. The state has rights against the individual; its members have obligations, among them that of obeying without protest”



And, of course, they all are do...they are all consubstantial.

They are all the same in their ultimate plan for society: a totalitarian regime with the peons marching lock-step.



Nazism

Communism

Socialism

Fascism

Progressivism

Liberalism






How about pointing out which of them are defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom, and recognize the individual as the most important element of society?
Right....none of 'em.
Only right wing philosophies...i.e., conservatism.

Now you're just getting even more ridiculous. Ann Coulter is not a scholar of any kind, FYI.

Gee....you haven't been right since disco died.


"With Coulter, I did the same thing when reading her books. I investigated several of her claims. The difference is, with everyone else I found an error within the first few issues I investigated. With Coulter, I never found an error, so I decided she was a good scholar.



To be objective, I used a random method. I'd already tried checking things that stood out to me. This time I investigated 10 random footnotes from her books. For each one, I picked a book, then I selected a chapter with a random number generator, then I went to the footnotes for that chapter and selected one with a random number generator. Whatever was randomly chosen, I committed to investigate it and reach a conclusion, even if it was hard; reselecting any footnotes would compromise objectivity.

This is not a perfect approach. If 1% of Coulter's footnotes are mistaken, I could miss it. Maybe she approaches her columns with a different respect for scholarship than the books I'm checking (why?). Maybe she has mistakes with no footnote. If I missed something, please tell me (with specifics!). Leave a comment below or email me curi@curi.us

In my experience, I often find scholarship errors within the first three things I check for an author. Because errors are so common, I think a spot check like this is valuable. If you doubt how common errors are, I recommend you fact check some other authors. Plus, I've already read Coulter's books and checked a few claims I found suspicious, so adding random checking provides good variety and objectivity. And, while reading, I already had the opportunity to spot claims in her books that should have a footnote but don't, or notice other issues.

I checked 10 randomly selected footnotes from 5 Ann Coulter books. For each one, I present my analysis below and I score Coulter's scholarship from 0 to 5 points. Her final average score was 5, which is perfect. (I decided on the scoring system before I started.) I found no scholarship errors. Well done!

In addition to fact checking Coulter myself, I also reviewed other people's criticism and fact checking of Coulter. Click through for details; in summary, their own scholarship was terrible. Also, my friend fact checked one random Coulter cite I gave him, which was correct."
Curiosity – Fact Checking Ann Coulter



Sooo......turns out you're a dishonest, slanderous windbag....




Reviewing her critics: Curiosity – Reviewing Ann Coulter's Critics



a fact check of an attack on Coulter's scholarship. Read it if you want: Fact Checking Al Franken

 

[Picaro]

lol you don't 'fact check' squat. Quit lying already. lol

 

[LA RAM FAN]

This one again. The OP is going to convince us that JFK and RFK were Nazis.

yep

This one again. The OP is going to convince us that JFK and RFK were Nazis.

Naw she only has an obsession over FDR admitting HIS corruption but when you post evidence of how the republicans are equally corrupt-she does this- everytime.

check out this thread here.

Democrats Never Met A Communist....

she talks about how the demo's never met a communist they did not like but when i posted facts that Ike liked the communist as well in post# 432 here of mine,that is exactly what she did,this-

and she doesnt even have me on ignore is whats REALLY funny.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really evil doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.

Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.

Like clockwork,you are soooo predictable. there goes your obsession with FDR again as always. I knew you could not mention nazis without talking about him.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin,

yeah and you always run off with your tail between your legs all the time everytime I prove that your hero Ike was pals with him as well. always changing the topic

As 2 million German women were being gang raped on Stalin's orders, Eisenhower partied with 'Uncle Joe' - atop Lenin's tomb!



as i just proved in my previous post,you will talk about how the demo's never met a communist they did not like but despite the HUNDREDS of times I post this pic that Ike was pals with the communists as well,you do this- everytime

 

[PoliticalChic]

lol you don't 'fact check' squat. Quit lying already. lol

Watch how easily I prove you to be our best source of greenhouse gases: Scholar Coulter has authored a dozen best sellers.


Which ones have you read?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hitler banned the Jews
Republicans banned the Muslims

Republicans = Nazis

FDR joined his brother in arms, Adolph Hitler, in his hatred of Jews.

1. "... Roosevelt’s embedded anti-Semitism was not confined to jokes. It was displayed in the refusal of the American government in 1939 to admit the desperate refugees on board the S.S. St. Louis,who were returned to Germany [to their deaths] – or to even fill the quotas that authorized the limited admission of Germans.

It was revealed in American government suppression of information about the mass murder of European Jews.


The White House [read 'Roosevelt'] opposed a resolution to create the War Refugee Board and delayed its establishment for fourteen months.

Orders to bomb railroad tracks leading to the extermination camps were never given, although Nazi facilities merely five miles away were destroyed. And special American missions were launched to rescue art treasures – and performing Lipizzaner horses."
[But not Jews.]
Betrayal: FDR and the Jews



a."However, it can be argued that because of his very outspoken and domineering mother who clearly possessed a strong streak of anti-Semitism, FDR couldn't help his underlying prejudice regarding Jews. As described in an entry of January 27, 1942, Henry Morganthau Diaries, "Roosevelt proclaimed to a shocked Crowley (Catholic Economist and wartime Alien Property Custodian): Leo, you know this is a Protestant country, and the Catholics and the Jews are here on sufferance. This comment exemplifies FDR's upbringing among America's Protestant elite and how it most likely perpetuated a belief system that explains his aloofness from the crimes that were committed against Jews during the Holocaust." Roosevelt



2 ." Why did the administration actively seek to discourage and disqualify Jewish refugees from coming to the United States? Why didn't the president quietly tell his State Department (which administered the immigration system) to fill the quotas for Germany and Axis-occupied countries to the legal limit? That alone could have saved 190,000 lives. It would not have required a fight with Congress or the anti-immigration forces; it would have involved minimal political risk to the president."FDR's troubling view of Jews

[The Spirit of St. Louis was built in San Diego by Ryan Airlines, and while the name "Lindbergh Field" isn't official, it has stuck as a colloquial moniker. There have been some attempts to disassociate that name from the airport on the grounds that Lindbergh's antisemitism made him a terrible choice for the hero worship that naming the airport after him implies, especially because Lindbergh himself was the target of a virtual boycott after he opposed entering World War II and made disparaging remarks about Jews (even President Franklin Roosevelt claimed he could tell Lindbergh was a Nazi). What does the letter]





3. Interesting questions that an inquiring mind would have no trouble answering when considering Roosevelt's attitude toward other minorities....


"This attitude dovetails with what is known about FDR's views regarding immigrants in general and Asian immigrants in particular.... He recommended that future immigration should be limited to those who had "blood of the right sort." "
Op. Cit.



Bet government school doesn't teach these facts, does it.
And lying low-lies....you....try to hide same.


True?

 

[PoliticalChic]

In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin,

yeah and you always run off with your tail between your legs all the time everytime I prove that your hero Ike was pals with him as well. always changing the topic

As 2 million German women were being gang raped on Stalin's orders, Eisenhower partied with 'Uncle Joe' - atop Lenin's tomb!



as i just proved in my previous post,you will talk about how the demo's never met a communist they did not like but despite the HUNDREDS of times I post this pic that Ike was pals with the communists as well,you do this- everytime

Stop foaming at the mouth.

Eisenhower was never my hero, nor have I ever authored a post claiming so.

 

[Moonglow]

Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really evil doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.

Great Britain already had the Soviets as an ally before the US entered the war against Germany..
The Allies of World War II, called the United Nations from the 1 January 1942 declaration, were the countries that together opposed the Axis powers during the Second World War (1939–1945). The Allies promoted the alliance as seeking to stop German, Japanese and Italian aggression.



At the start of the war on 1 September 1939, the Allies consisted of France, Poland and the United Kingdom, and dependent states, such as the British India. Within days they were joined by the independent Dominions of the British Commonwealth: Australia, Canada, New Zealand and South Africa.[1] After the start of the German invasion of North Europe till the Balkan Campaign, Netherlands, Belgium, Greece and Yugoslavia joined the Allies. After first having cooperated with Germany in invading Poland whilst remaining neutral in the Allied-Axis conflict, the Soviet Union perforce joined the Allies in June 1941 after being invaded by Germany.The United States provided war materiel and money all along, and officially joined in December 1941 after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. China had already been into a prolonged war with Japan since the Lugou Bridge Incidentof 1937, but officially joined the Allies in 1941.

Allies of World War II - Wikipedia

 

[PoliticalChic]

Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really evil doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.

Great Britain already had the Soviets as an ally before the US entered the war against Germany..
The Allies of World War II, called the United Nations from the 1 January 1942 declaration, were the countries that together opposed the Axis powers during the Second World War (1939–1945). The Allies promoted the alliance as seeking to stop German, Japanese and Italian aggression.



At the start of the war on 1 September 1939, the Allies consisted of France, Poland and the United Kingdom, and dependent states, such as the British India. Within days they were joined by the independent Dominions of the British Commonwealth: Australia, Canada, New Zealand and South Africa.[1] After the start of the German invasion of North Europe till the Balkan Campaign, Netherlands, Belgium, Greece and Yugoslavia joined the Allies. After first having cooperated with Germany in invading Poland whilst remaining neutral in the Allied-Axis conflict, the Soviet Union perforce joined the Allies in June 1941 after being invaded by Germany.The United States provided war materiel and money all along, and officially joined in December 1941 after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. China had already been into a prolonged war with Japan since the Lugou Bridge Incidentof 1937, but officially joined the Allies in 1941.

Allies of World War II - Wikipedia

I know it's gilding the lily to prove you a liar.....you do that so well all by yourself...but....I challenged you to find any of my quotes that prove your lies

Now....which of your lies are you here to retract and apologize for?


1. "...all the brown people you discriminate against..."


2. "...your hate of brown people is well noted..."


3. "....you edited your original OP to exclude your use of brown people..."

Still waiting, you lying low-life.

Inauguration 'Brown-Out'???





And...another of your lies:

"I know, you are such a bitch when it comes to truth and honesty in positioning yourself,, and the demeaning manner you pretend to be white..."
The Danger of Democrats....



Or this diaphanous one?

Policlick likes coal, and black lung, and smog polluted skylines,

Green Energy Red In The Face



Still can't back up any of those?


Then you can return to the sewer where you belong, gnome.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin,

yeah and you always run off with your tail between your legs all the time everytime I prove that your hero Ike was pals with him as well. always changing the topic

As 2 million German women were being gang raped on Stalin's orders, Eisenhower partied with 'Uncle Joe' - atop Lenin's tomb!



as i just proved in my previous post,you will talk about how the demo's never met a communist they did not like but despite the HUNDREDS of times I post this pic that Ike was pals with the communists as well,you do this- everytime

Stop foaming at the mouth.

Eisenhower was never my hero, nor have I ever authored a post claiming so.

That does not change the FACT that you have an obsession over FDR and you made a thread titled "DEMOCRATS NEVER MET A COMMUNIST THEY DID NOT ADORE" talking about FDR being pals with Stalin and then when I posted that pic back than documenting how future "REPUBLICAN" president EISENHOWER was pals with him as well,pals with the communists,you ran off as you always do and you were also too cowardly to show your face back then knowing you were cornered with that fact when i made my thread back then called REPUBLICANS NEVER MEANT A COMMUNIST THEY DID NOT ADORE..

even fellow troll Moonglow who just posted,remembers that thread of mine and how you were too cowardly to show your face on that thread since it had proof of Ike,a "REPUBLICAN" being buddies with him as well.

 

[PoliticalChic]

In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin,

yeah and you always run off with your tail between your legs all the time everytime I prove that your hero Ike was pals with him as well. always changing the topic

As 2 million German women were being gang raped on Stalin's orders, Eisenhower partied with 'Uncle Joe' - atop Lenin's tomb!



as i just proved in my previous post,you will talk about how the demo's never met a communist they did not like but despite the HUNDREDS of times I post this pic that Ike was pals with the communists as well,you do this- everytime

Stop foaming at the mouth.

Eisenhower was never my hero, nor have I ever authored a post claiming so.

That does not change the FACT that you have an obsession over FDR and you made a thread titled "DEMOCRATS NEVER MET A COMMUNIST THEY DID NOT ADORE" talking about FDR being pals with Stalin and then when I posted that pic back than documenting how future "REPUBLICAN" president EISENHOWER was pals with him as well,pals with the communists,you ran off as you always do and you were also too cowardly to show your face back then knowing you were cornered with that fact when i made my thread back then called REPUBLICANS NEVER MEANT A COMMUNIST THEY DID NOT ADORE..

even fellow troll Moonglow who just posted,remembers that thread of mine and how you were too cowardly to show your face on that thread since it had proof of Ike,a "REPUBLICAN" being buddies with him as well.

Did you just post this?

"In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin,

yeah and you always run off with your tail between your legs all the time everytime I prove that your hero Ike was pals with him as well. always changing the topic"



And did I prove what a moron you are: I have never defended nor championed Eisenhower.


Did I just shove your post back down your lying throat?




And....you have joined the legion of total imbeciles who whine about my posts about FDR.....not a single one of you has ever....EVER.....been able to dispute anything I've stated.


Now....back in that dunce seat where you belong.

 

[Picaro]

Over and over....the indoctrinated just can't overcome the propaganda...this: while Communists were Leftwing, the really, really evil doctrine, Nazism, was Rightwing.
No, it wasn't. It was brithed from the same sourece as communism...Karl Marx.
It authorized slaughter and genocide...as Leftism does.
And dreamed of the very same end stage for society as all six Leftwing views do.

They weren't: both are Leftwing....as is Liberalism, Progressivism, Socialism and Fascism.


1. Where did they learn to fear truth? Liberals, indoctrinated in government schools, hearing nothing but propaganda, raised to worship Franklin Roosevelt, look at the truth as though it were toxic.


2. But....to be a Liberal in good standing, this is the prescribed response when the facts run counter to their worldview: become irate, and attack, attack, attack

These were the retorts of the indoctrinated in a recent thread:

Fascists hate Liberals, and visa versa.

similarities between post 911 Evangelical/Tea Party Republicans and Fascists.

LW being communist (not capitalist), RW being fascist (allied with corporations, capitalist) like Naziism.

The Nazis may have had some quasi-socialist policies, but they were not socialists.

The Nazis simply didn't have a strong economic ideology, in some ways they weren't even true fascists

capitalism thrived under the Nazis.

Hitler and his gang took over a party with Socialist in its name. But when he took over Germany and turned it into a fascist dictatorship, it was anything but socialist.



Clearly Liberals all, and based on their comments, it is difficult to determine whether they are more incensed, or more ignorant.


3. Here's the bottom line...and then I'll prove it: Hitler and the Nazis were Leftwing.
Here's the reason for the propaganda assault by Liberals:
Pre-WWII, Progressives, Liberals, Democrats, were hot to embrace communism, fascism, and the Nazis. In fact, FDR was a pal of Stalin, Mussolini, and Hitler. He used Mussolini as his model for the New Deal.


All six of these worldviews are based on the same, un-American view of individuals, individual rights and the final stage of social development.
All six are Leftwing...none are Rightwing.




4. "American progressives, for the most part, did not disavow fascism until the horrors of the Nazi Holocaust became manifest during World War II. After the war, those progressives who had praised Mussolini and Hitler in the 1920s and 1930s had no choice but to dissociate themselves from fascism. “Accordingly,” writes Jonah Goldberg, “leftist intellectuals redefined fascism as 'right-wing' and projected their own sins onto conservatives, even as they continued to borrow heavily from fascist and pre-fascist thought.” This progressive campaign to recast fascism as the "right-wing" antithesis of communism was aided by Joseph Stalin,..."
Goldberg, Liberal Fascism



When one 'sibling' attacked another, June 21, 1941, FDR had to choose one over the other.
"Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington until Hitler became a menace to the Soviet Union." Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48



As I promised.....I will prove the above in this thread.

Great Britain already had the Soviets as an ally before the US entered the war against Germany..
The Allies of World War II, called the United Nations from the 1 January 1942 declaration, were the countries that together opposed the Axis powers during the Second World War (1939–1945). The Allies promoted the alliance as seeking to stop German, Japanese and Italian aggression.



At the start of the war on 1 September 1939, the Allies consisted of France, Poland and the United Kingdom, and dependent states, such as the British India. Within days they were joined by the independent Dominions of the British Commonwealth: Australia, Canada, New Zealand and South Africa.[1] After the start of the German invasion of North Europe till the Balkan Campaign, Netherlands, Belgium, Greece and Yugoslavia joined the Allies. After first having cooperated with Germany in invading Poland whilst remaining neutral in the Allied-Axis conflict, the Soviet Union perforce joined the Allies in June 1941 after being invaded by Germany.The United States provided war materiel and money all along, and officially joined in December 1941 after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. China had already been into a prolonged war with Japan since the Lugou Bridge Incidentof 1937, but officially joined the Allies in 1941.

Allies of World War II - Wikipedia

The British kept Stalin from total collapse. British arms, especially tanks, made the difference in the battle to save Moscow. British armor units allowed the Soviets to launch the main counter-offensives, and later on they made up the core armor units defending the Kursk Pocket, also allowing the Soviet the ability to launch offensives in the summer of 1943. Stalin would have had to sue for terms without the early British aid.