Today it's 83 years ago since the Shelling of Mainila, when the Moscow carried out a false flag operation by shelling a village close to the Finnish

[Litwin]

Viipuri is Finnish and will be part of Finland again in the future. Patience.

Today it's 83 years ago since the Shelling of Mainila, when the Moscow carried out a false flag operation by shelling a village close to the Finnish border & then blaming it on Finland.

 

[Pellinore]

Yep. The Germans did the same thing to Poland, to give it an excuse to invade on September 1. Neither of them were particularly subtle.

These are from the New York Times, the next day (the 27th).

 

[Pellinore]

It's interesting how many parallels there are between then and now.

"If, as reported, the Finnish explanation is that it was an accident in the course of artillery practice ... the Russians definitely have no intention of moving against Finland" sounds like what they could have been saying after that missile landed in Poland a week or so ago. Of course, we know now that the USSR had *every* intention of moving against Finland, but it shows how in both cases, the public perception is trying to figure out the Russians' intentions, and really doesn't trust them.

Also, for those of you who remember how the Winter War ended, a massive, Russian-speaking expansionist dictatorship based in Moscow used the excuse of protecting ethnic Russians to invade a small but resource-rich neighbor. Through unexpectedly fierce resistance combined with their own military blunders, they found themselves barely squeaking out a Pyrrhic victory, driving that small neighbor into an alliance with a MUCH more powerful regional neighbor. Sound familiar? The story of Ukraine isn't quite finished being written, but otherwise the two stories seem pretty similar.

Which Russia may want to acknowledge, considering that their tremendously poor showing in Finland was one of the reasons that Germany thought they could take them a few years later. Then, things just got messy.

 

[Litwin]

Germans

DONT FORGET THAT KOBA AND Hitler were allies at that time

 

[Litwin]

Yep. The Germans did the same thing to Poland, to give it an excuse to invade on September 1. Neither of them were particularly subtle.

These are from the New York Times, the next day (the 27th).


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one for sure, south Karelia will be Finnish again

 

[Pellinore]

DONT FORGET THAT KOBA AND Hitler were allies at that time

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True, but the Soviet Union justified it in a different way. Sixteen days later, they informed Poland that since they no longer had a functioning government (which wasn't true) that Soviet troops were moving in to secure the safety of their people (which also wasn't true).

It was all pretty blatant.

 

[Litwin]

True, but the Soviet Union justified it in a different way. Sixteen days later, they informed Poland that since they no longer had a functioning government (which wasn't true) that Soviet troops were moving in to secure the safety of their people (which also wasn't true).

It was all pretty blatant.

“We Know Muscovites Lie Because Their Lips Are Moving” Ukraine's Ambassadors to the UN

 

[Litwin]

True, but the Soviet Union justified it in a different way. Sixteen days later, they informed Poland that since they no longer had a functioning government (which wasn't true) that Soviet troops were moving in to secure the safety of their people (which also wasn't true).

It was all pretty blatant.

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[Litwin]

 

[Pellinore]

The Finnish military is no joke. No commander in their right mind would want to be tasked with facing them on their home turf, especially in the snow.

 

[whitehall]

The original "thrilla in Mainila"?

 

[Pellinore]

The original "thrilla in Mainila"?

It was usually snowing, so make that the "Chilla in Mainila."

ba-dum-bump.

 

[Litwin]

The Finnish military is no joke. No commander in their right mind would want to be tasked with facing them on their home turf, especially in the snow.

Koba was not a commander, he was an oriental despot , he didn´t care about his slaves

 

[Pellinore]

Koba was not a commander, he was an oriental despot , he didn´t care about his slaves

I was thinking more of Voroshilov and Timoshenko. These were the guys that actually had to get it done.

 

[Litwin]

I was thinking more of Voroshilov and Timoshenko. These were the guys that actually had to get it done.

whats about these Politburo´s poodles . question, as we both know Moscow empire is a dead man walking, SHOULD FINLAND annex (get back ) NORTHERN Karelia or not?

 

[Pellinore]

whats about these Politburo´s poodles . question, as we both know Moscow empire is a dead man walking, SHOULD FINLAND annex (get back ) NORTHERN Karelia or not?

Now? No. Who would compel Putin to redraw that line? Or are you suggesting Finland should move it with troops?

 

[Litwin]

Now? No. Who would compel Putin to redraw that line? Or are you suggesting Finland should move it with troops?

Not now, today Finland supports Ukraine and do it right , It plays the leading role in EU and NATO in our fight against Moscow imperialism . I dont think that Moscow can run this freak show more than 1 year , then It´ll be Finnish chance to get back Karelia , not only for Finland , Japan , Belarus, Estonia , Ukraine, Georgia, China, Mongolia , Chechnya, etc. will get the opening