Today, August 18th, 2025…Trump to Host Meetings With Zelenskyy and European Leaders at White House to discuss ending UKRAINE/RUSSIA war.

Good god peolpe.

You REALLY don't know why they are flattering Trump?

Yes you do.

So explain to me then why it's not helpful to hold these talks?

Yes, Trump has an incredibly gigantic ego that much of the time gets in his own way and is an embarrassment, but I'd like to understand why the left like you, go out of their way to downplay ANY dialogue that might eventually lead to an end to this war that is killing thousands of people every week.

Why do you and others allow your 'hate' to dictate how you approach these talks?
 
So explain to me then why it's not helpful to hold these talks?

Yes, Trump has an incredibly gigantic ego that much of the time gets in his own way and is an embarrassment, but I'd like to understand why the left like you, go out of their way to downplay ANY dialogue that might eventually lead to an end to this war that is killing thousands of people every week.

Why do you and others allow your 'hate' to dictate how you approach these talks?
This is an easy one.

If President Trump actual solves this left over fuckup from the Biden era a whole bunch of leftist idiots will we standing around with their thumbs up their ass and their feet in their mouths wondering how they got themselves in another predicament.

Better to damage and sabotage the peace process the same way they vote... early and often.
 
So explain to me then why it's not helpful to hold these talks?
Because there should be no talks,without a ceasefire. Putin has learned he is the one making the demands.

And the European leaders have learned that Putin is the one making the demands.

The European leaders are tongue bathing him, because they hope to sway him away from what is apparently Putin's position that Trump seems to have seamlessly adopted.
 
Because there should be no talks,without a ceasefire. Putin has learned he is the one making the demands.

And the European leaders have learned that Putin is the one making the demands.

The European leaders are tongue bathing him, because they hope to sway him away from what is apparently Putin's position that Trump seems to have seamlessly adopted.

Holding talks could lead to a ceasefire, and it's certainly better than not having a dialogue at all like with Biden.

Go ahead though, continue to criticize it, you guys just make yourselves look like fools.
 
Holding talks could lead to a ceasefire
You mean, giving conceessions to putin could, just maybe, eventually yield a ceasefire.

Let's put aside the doublespeak and equivocation.

Yes, everyone knows one day,maybe,we can have a ceasefire, if we give Putin what he wants.

Genius level diplomacy! 🙄

No. Putin should get NOTHING without a ceasefire. Zip. Nada.

Instead the fat rapist is offering to give Putin land he doesnt even occupy.

Global embarrassment.
 
You mean, giving conceessions to putin could, just maybe, eventually yield a ceasefire.

Let's put aside the doublespeak and equivocation.

Yes, everyone knows one day,maybe,we can have a ceasefire, if we give Putin what he wants.

Genius level diplomacy! 🙄

No. Putin should get NOTHING without a ceasefire. Zip. Nada.

Instead the fat rapist is offering to give Putin land he doesnt even occupy.

Global embarrassment.
Does it really matter? As long as we do not keep pumping hundreds of billions of dollars into Ukraine.
 
Because there should be no talks,without a ceasefire. Putin has learned he is the one making the demands.

And the European leaders have learned that Putin is the one making the demands.

The European leaders are tongue bathing him, because they hope to sway him away from what is apparently Putin's position that Trump seems to have seamlessly adopted.

When you are sitting in a foxhole in Ukraine, then you'll have standing to make such demands.

But right now, you look like just some kind of chicken hawk, sitting safely behind a keyboard.

Ukraine is looking for cannon fodder in its continued conflict with Russia.

BTW, Zelenskyy doesn't seem to want a ceasefire.
 
The Russian military is already imposing its will on Ukraine, despite the massive losses.

it occupies most of the territory Russia wants to claim in any deal.

Which is not their stated final objective.

Putin is doing the same thing that Hitler did to Neville Chamberlain. Instructing him on what to tell NATO.

He will settle for the same results in the short term.

And then march in. He will do it before Trump leaves office. He knows Trump will do nothing.

And the betrayal will be complete.

So will the disgrace.
 
Which is not their stated final objective.

Putin is doing the same thing that Hitler did to Neville Chamberlain. Instructing him on what to tell NATO.

He will settle for the same results in the short term.

And then march in. He will do it before Trump leaves office. He knows Trump will do nothing.

And the betrayal will be complete.

So will the disgrace.

Which party held the White House for both Russian incursions into Ukraine?
 
So explain to me then why it's not helpful to hold these talks?

Yes, Trump has an incredibly gigantic ego that much of the time gets in his own way and is an embarrassment, but I'd like to understand why the left like you, go out of their way to downplay ANY dialogue that might eventually lead to an end to this war that is killing thousands of people every week.

Why do you and others allow your 'hate' to dictate how you approach these talks?

He’s playing world leader in his head.

He has no particular plan. he’s taking all sides (aas he has always done in a critical negotiation) .

NATO got him talking about a cease fire again. Putin will remind Trump that the Russians won’t agree.

Putin punked Witkoff with a hint of supporting security guarantees. This is a Russian ploy to get NATO and Trump feuding with each other.

In the end, Putin will reject any kind of security. Guarantee.
 
Which party held the White House for both Russian incursions into Ukraine?
The question is irrelevant.

Trump is Putin’s stooge. He has supported Putin consistantly. He endorsed this war.
 
The question is irrelevant.

Trump is Putin’s stooge. He has supported Putin consistantly. He endorsed this war.

The question is 100% relevant.

The rest of your drivel is just that, you SJW waste of carbon.
 
I wouldn't be so sure.

The fellow conducting the talks is Donald J. Trump, the author of the Art of the Deal.

Trump brokered peace between Azerbaijan and Armenia, Pakistan and India as well as Congo and Rwanda.

Why not this conflict as well?

This will be #7
 
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Where is their objective stated, other than your imagination?

I'll wait.




You can stop waiting.

You and Donald Trump are the only people who don’t (or pretendcnot to) know this.

It is all over Russian media.
 
When Hobo Zelenskyy stepped out to Trumps greeting he said something like, “I dressed like a bum again because this was the best suit I had”

And Trump responded, “you never learn”

Again, Trump should have sent Zelenskyy back to his hotel to put on a suit
 
The question is 100% relevant.

The rest of your drivel is just that, you SJW waste of carbon.

This is world affairs, not your petty domestic tribalism.

The rest of my post is 100% true, and you know it.

What is SJW. I don’t keep up with stupid little right wing labels.
 

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