Time to Stop the Anti-Muslim Talk

[easyt65]

Hate speech facilitates violence, such as the hate and bigotry you and others on the right express towards Muslims.

'The Right'? Which party just watered down a bill to protect their anti-Semitic party member because they did not want to mention / call out that party member in public for her Hate Speech?

Oh yeah, that was the Democrats, who had already condemned Omar's anti-Semitic comments twice but just couldn't officially go on record for opposing it.

 

[miketx]

Mass Shooting At 2 New Zealand Mosques Leaves At Least 49 People Dead | HuffPost

It's allover this board and it's all over this country and people are getting KILLED because of it.

This has to stop.

How long before another white Nationalist kills a bunch of immigrants or Muslims or whatever the target is this month?

We've already had them target a Jewish Synagogue and a black church.

STOP people. Stop the hate speech.

NOW

Speech is not violence. Please name one mostly Moslem country that is not a humanitarian, economic or military disaster. You cannot. Maybe the real problem is staring people in the face and they cannot face it? Possible?

Wrong.

Hate speech facilitates violence, such as the hate and bigotry you and others on the right express towards Muslims.

Muzzie scum sure do create a lot of hate speech.

 

[depotoo]

Says the one that preaches hate towards Christians-

Most black Christians are “left”.

But, they aren’t real Christians. Ask a nutbag.

..

RIght, buddy. I don't care about your list. Let's talk about your beef with the OP. Why do you have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech? Like you know, calling for murder.

Another straw man. I didn't say I "have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech".

You don't even realize how well you're illustrating my point, do you?
.

This was your reply:

Hate speech is fueling this from BOTH ends.

Stop screaming ISLAMOPHOBE, stop ATTACKING any time anyone dares to point out problems in that religion.

Part of this is frustration over that kind of deflection. It gives the crazies fuel. It gives talk radio fuel. IT JUST MAKES THINGS EVEN WORSE.

It blows my mind that something this obvious doesn't occur to you.

You seemed to have missed the OPs point, or at least perverted it. Instead of actually having a dialogue with the OP, perhaps asking to define what hate speech was you went ahead and told him to stop attacking others who are critical of hate speech because of course....both sides. ******* idiot, it's not both sides calling for the death, murder or denouncing an entire race or religion as being inherently less than others. Because you can't get your own bothsiderism argument out of your head

And, of all days you do this today? .

RW USMB NUTBAG: Nuke Mecca! I agree with the shooter! We must exterminate all Muslims.

LW USMB NORMAL: That is hate speech. I condemn your calling for violence. You should not call for the death of
all Muslims for the horrendous acts of a few. That is basically Islamophobia.

Mac1958: This REGRESSIVE LEFTY is attacking someone who is simply pointing out flaws in Islam!! This is how
REGRESSIVES cause more violence!

Lone Laughter:

Christian's deserve it and caused all the chaos in the world... Praise Allah...

If you are going to troll at least be funny!

You would have nothing if not for dishonesty.

 

[BlackFlag]

Mass Shooting At 2 New Zealand Mosques Leaves At Least 49 People Dead | HuffPost

It's allover this board and it's all over this country and people are getting KILLED because of it.

This has to stop.

How long before another white Nationalist kills a bunch of immigrants or Muslims or whatever the target is this month?

We've already had them target a Jewish Synagogue and a black church.

STOP people. Stop the hate speech.

NOW

Conservaitves are proud of what happened today. Stop trying to talk to them and instead work to defeat them.

 

[bendog]

This is what happens after every attack on Muslims. Deflect. Minimize. Change the subject.

And then when Muslims attack, the Left deflects by comparing jihadists to Christians ("The Crusades!"), offering only the most pedestrian of criticisms of Islam.

Deflect. Minimize. Change the subject. Opposite sides of the same coin.

And neither end "sees" it.
.

But do you? Do you hear what Lesh said or is it just another opportunity to do your fence sitting, Mac?

Here we go again. You just "liked" a post of mine that clearly pointed out what BOTH ends do, and then you try that.

I don't need to belong to a tribe. If you do, that's not my problem.
.

To me, Lesh started a thread that has a pretty clear message. Your post on tactics to deflect and minimize problems, used by both sides, is accurate, but not on point. So I asked you to say where you stand on the issue and all I get back is more criticism of partisan games but not an answer to the question.
If you don't want to answer it, fine.

Actually Old Lady Mac is not sitting on the fence but what it is you want Mac to either agree or disagree with you.

Here is the simple fact Lesh message came out when a radical attacked a Mosque while staying silent when radicals blew up New York, Boston and shot up Orlando.

If you want it to be fair and honest both sides should think long and hard why they hate each other and why those like Mac sit on the fence.

Personally Lesh along with you cause more hate with your finger pointing to one side while excusing the other while pretending you are pointing your finger at all sides.

So do you agree both sides are wrong or will you do a but when you answer?

Personally Lesh along with you cause more hate with your finger pointing to one side while excusing the other
How else do we condemn the hate which is generalized to an entire group of people based on their religion? Should we ignore it so that no one on the right gets upset? What do we do, Bruce? You tell me.

Well, I don't think that's really the correct criticism of Bruce's post (or Mac's entire angle). NOTHING in the op excused calls from radical islam to attack "new York, boston and Orlando."

However, there are no calls from Muslims inside the US (or NZ that I know of) to attack anywhere in the US or NZ. But there are calls from within the US (and apparently NZ and Aust) to attack muslims. I think that was the point, and it's a valid one.

The posters act like the OP set out some double standard. But it didn't. There's no double standard to start with. We would all probably agree al queda shouldn't target places. And US muslims are joining the army.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Says the one that preaches hate towards Christians-

Most black Christians are “left”.

But, they aren’t real Christians. Ask a nutbag.

..
Another straw man. I didn't say I "have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech".

You don't even realize how well you're illustrating my point, do you?
.

This was your reply:

Hate speech is fueling this from BOTH ends.

Stop screaming ISLAMOPHOBE, stop ATTACKING any time anyone dares to point out problems in that religion.

Part of this is frustration over that kind of deflection. It gives the crazies fuel. It gives talk radio fuel. IT JUST MAKES THINGS EVEN WORSE.

It blows my mind that something this obvious doesn't occur to you.

You seemed to have missed the OPs point, or at least perverted it. Instead of actually having a dialogue with the OP, perhaps asking to define what hate speech was you went ahead and told him to stop attacking others who are critical of hate speech because of course....both sides. ******* idiot, it's not both sides calling for the death, murder or denouncing an entire race or religion as being inherently less than others. Because you can't get your own bothsiderism argument out of your head

And, of all days you do this today? .

RW USMB NUTBAG: Nuke Mecca! I agree with the shooter! We must exterminate all Muslims.

LW USMB NORMAL: That is hate speech. I condemn your calling for violence. You should not call for the death of
all Muslims for the horrendous acts of a few. That is basically Islamophobia.

Mac1958: This REGRESSIVE LEFTY is attacking someone who is simply pointing out flaws in Islam!! This is how
REGRESSIVES cause more violence!

Lone Laughter:

Christian's deserve it and caused all the chaos in the world... Praise Allah...

If you are going to troll at least be funny!

You would have nothing if not for dishonesty.

I have never preached hate toward Christians. You ought to retract that comment.

 

[easyt65]

Conservaitves are proud of what happened today. Stop trying to talk to them and instead work to defeat them.

After this tragedy the 1st thing the new Socialist Princess does is attack people of faith and prayer....and she gets blasted by people across the spectrum of all faiths - to include Muslims - and you lie your ass off and try to claim Conservatives are the ones engaging in 'hate speech'.

AOC just got rebuked for immediately engaging in hate speech after this event. Didn't even make you slow down / hesitate from falsely accusing others of what Democrats do / of being who Democrats are...

 

[OldLady]

But do you? Do you hear what Lesh said or is it just another opportunity to do your fence sitting, Mac?

Here we go again. You just "liked" a post of mine that clearly pointed out what BOTH ends do, and then you try that.

I don't need to belong to a tribe. If you do, that's not my problem.
.

To me, Lesh started a thread that has a pretty clear message. Your post on tactics to deflect and minimize problems, used by both sides, is accurate, but not on point. So I asked you to say where you stand on the issue and all I get back is more criticism of partisan games but not an answer to the question.
If you don't want to answer it, fine.

Actually Old Lady Mac is not sitting on the fence but what it is you want Mac to either agree or disagree with you.

Here is the simple fact Lesh message came out when a radical attacked a Mosque while staying silent when radicals blew up New York, Boston and shot up Orlando.

If you want it to be fair and honest both sides should think long and hard why they hate each other and why those like Mac sit on the fence.

Personally Lesh along with you cause more hate with your finger pointing to one side while excusing the other while pretending you are pointing your finger at all sides.

So do you agree both sides are wrong or will you do a but when you answer?

Personally Lesh along with you cause more hate with your finger pointing to one side while excusing the other
How else do we condemn the hate which is generalized to an entire group of people based on their religion? Should we ignore it so that no one on the right gets upset? What do we do, Bruce? You tell me.

Do you have to group everyone on the right doing it?

That is what you and Lesh do while complaining the right is bad for acting like you.

Let face the reality not all of Islam is radical... The Kurds are pretty decent people along with Persians but the fact is Saudi and their kissing cousins are usually radical.

Now should I be told I am spreading hate?

I have more respect for people being honest when commenting about Muslims and Christians but Lesh is not being honest at all.

As I wrote Lesh is now wanting people to be calm because a Mosque was attacked in Kiwi land but where was he when Muslims were attacking us?

Where was his thread Muslims should not spread so much hate?

They are not minorities in the religious world...

Do you have to group everyone on the right doing it?
Where did I do that? Or did you just hear that, put on a shoe that maybe doesn't fit?

Lesh is now wanting people to be calm because a Mosque was attacked in Kiwi land but where was he when Muslims were attacking us?
I don't know what you expect from me when there is a terrorist attack like San Bernadino, or Pulse? I was glad the terrorists were dead and I'm sure I said so somewhere or other. I didn't immediately slam every other Muslim in the world because of them. Is that what I have to do to make you happy?

 

[RDD_1210]

Mass Shooting At 2 New Zealand Mosques Leaves At Least 49 People Dead | HuffPost

It's allover this board and it's all over this country and people are getting KILLED because of it.

This has to stop.

How long before another white Nationalist kills a bunch of immigrants or Muslims or whatever the target is this month?

We've already had them target a Jewish Synagogue and a black church.

STOP people. Stop the hate speech.

NOW

Who are you kidding? This site is full of people who envy the shooter and wish they were the ones pulling the trigger. The rest of them think "both sides are the same".

 

[HappyJoy]

Mass Shooting At 2 New Zealand Mosques Leaves At Least 49 People Dead | HuffPost

It's allover this board and it's all over this country and people are getting KILLED because of it.

This has to stop.

How long before another white Nationalist kills a bunch of immigrants or Muslims or whatever the target is this month?

We've already had them target a Jewish Synagogue and a black church.

STOP people. Stop the hate speech.

NOW

**** you. This is looong over due. May many more be yet to come. Drive these sand devil pieces of shit back to the desert where they belong.

Hey Mac1958, comment?

Happily! From post 5:

"It gives the crazies fuel. It gives talk radio fuel."

See? Both of you keep illustrating my point.
.

It appears to give you fuel.

But that's an interesting response. The wingnut says this is long over due, I ask you your opinion and your response is "it gives the crazies fuel on both sides" (paraphrasing).

How intellectually dishonest do you have to be to still call both sides the same? You literally treated both 'equally' there. Nice job, way to disprove your own reason for being on this board.

 

[PredFan]

The peaceful and serene religion of Islam:
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[Bruce_T_Laney]

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RIght, buddy. I don't care about your list. Let's talk about your beef with the OP. Why do you have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech? Like you know, calling for murder.

Another straw man. I didn't say I "have a problem with someone wanting to curb the hate speech".

You don't even realize how well you're illustrating my point, do you?
.

This was your reply:

Hate speech is fueling this from BOTH ends.

Stop screaming ISLAMOPHOBE, stop ATTACKING any time anyone dares to point out problems in that religion.

Part of this is frustration over that kind of deflection. It gives the crazies fuel. It gives talk radio fuel. IT JUST MAKES THINGS EVEN WORSE.

It blows my mind that something this obvious doesn't occur to you.

You seemed to have missed the OPs point, or at least perverted it. Instead of actually having a dialogue with the OP, perhaps asking to define what hate speech was you went ahead and told him to stop attacking others who are critical of hate speech because of course....both sides. ******* idiot, it's not both sides calling for the death, murder or denouncing an entire race or religion as being inherently less than others. Because you can't get your own bothsiderism argument out of your head

And, of all days you do this today? .

RW USMB NUTBAG: Nuke Mecca! I agree with the shooter! We must exterminate all Muslims.

LW USMB NORMAL: That is hate speech. I condemn your calling for violence. You should not call for the death of
all Muslims for the horrendous acts of a few. That is basically Islamophobia.

Mac1958: This REGRESSIVE LEFTY is attacking someone who is simply pointing out flaws in Islam!! This is how
REGRESSIVES cause more violence!

Lone Laughter:

Christian's deserve it and caused all the chaos in the world... Praise Allah...

If you are going to troll at least be funny!

You would have nothing if not for dishonesty.

We have a lot in common then.

Fact is you stay silent or try to excuse Muslim attacks while preaching about Christians being evil.

What happened in Kiwi land was an act of terror on the Muslim community.

The reality is the Aussie that did the attack is an enemy of the State and should face the death penalty for his act of terror.

Now how will you spin that Lone?

Will you say that I am being pressured to say that?

If so you know better than that.

I disagree with all religions and believe the House of Abraham has caused more problems than it is worth but they are the majority in this world because of the Three Branches.

So lone why do you hate the right so much?

Truthfully you have a lot in common just with hate, so maybe you should reflect and ask yourself why you have so much hate?

 

[RDD_1210]

It is long but this morning I read the New Zealand shooter's manifesto. I pretty much agree with him.

Weak minded White Guilt ***** Liberals are allowing third world shitheads to over run western culture and we are being destroyed because of it.

**** diversity.

And as predicted, they agree with the nutjob shooter. A person who murdered people in cold blood....they agree with him.

How much longer in this thread until I find a post by someone who outright claims he wishes he could shoot muslims in cold blood? Page 3? Page 4?

 

[easyt65]

Well, I don't think that's really the correct criticism of Bruce's post (or Mac's entire angle). NOTHING in the op excused calls from radical islam to attack "new York, boston and Orlando." However, there are no calls from Muslims inside the US (or NZ that I know of) to attack anywhere in the US or NZ.

Hmmm...seems 'we' missed the news story about the arrests on the camp in New Mexico of the terrorists who were planning attacks in the US.....

And since when do terrorists like Al Qaeda openly call for / announce they are going to attack the US, giving specific warning of attacks?

It seems there is a lot of effort being made to excuse / ignore one side and vilify the other.....

Shocking.

 

[easyt65]

How much longer in this thread until I find a post by someone who outright claims he wishes he could shoot muslims in cold blood? Page 3? Page 4?

This thread could go on forever, and the only ones who would even suggest such a thing would be dumbass snowflakes attempting to vilify Conservatives with this kind of BS accusation.

 

[Ambivalent1]

You really are retarded kid. Nobody "applauds" any of this.

Sure looks like they are...and NONE of you are condemning this horror.

This is what happens after every attack on Muslims. Deflect. Minimize. Change the subject.

And then when Muslims attack, the Left deflects by comparing jihadists to Christians ("The Crusades!"), offering only the most pedestrian of criticisms of Islam.

Deflect. Minimize. Change the subject. Opposite sides of the same coin.

And neither end "sees" it.
.

But do you? Do you hear what Lesh said or is it just another opportunity to do your fence sitting, Mac?

Lesh is being it's usual idiot self. NOBODY condoned this and it's FINE to point Radical Islam anywhere and everywhere it is.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Here we go again. You just "liked" a post of mine that clearly pointed out what BOTH ends do, and then you try that.

I don't need to belong to a tribe. If you do, that's not my problem.
.

To me, Lesh started a thread that has a pretty clear message. Your post on tactics to deflect and minimize problems, used by both sides, is accurate, but not on point. So I asked you to say where you stand on the issue and all I get back is more criticism of partisan games but not an answer to the question.
If you don't want to answer it, fine.

Actually Old Lady Mac is not sitting on the fence but what it is you want Mac to either agree or disagree with you.

Here is the simple fact Lesh message came out when a radical attacked a Mosque while staying silent when radicals blew up New York, Boston and shot up Orlando.

If you want it to be fair and honest both sides should think long and hard why they hate each other and why those like Mac sit on the fence.

Personally Lesh along with you cause more hate with your finger pointing to one side while excusing the other while pretending you are pointing your finger at all sides.

So do you agree both sides are wrong or will you do a but when you answer?

Personally Lesh along with you cause more hate with your finger pointing to one side while excusing the other
How else do we condemn the hate which is generalized to an entire group of people based on their religion? Should we ignore it so that no one on the right gets upset? What do we do, Bruce? You tell me.

Do you have to group everyone on the right doing it?

That is what you and Lesh do while complaining the right is bad for acting like you.

Let face the reality not all of Islam is radical... The Kurds are pretty decent people along with Persians but the fact is Saudi and their kissing cousins are usually radical.

Now should I be told I am spreading hate?

I have more respect for people being honest when commenting about Muslims and Christians but Lesh is not being honest at all.

As I wrote Lesh is now wanting people to be calm because a Mosque was attacked in Kiwi land but where was he when Muslims were attacking us?

Where was his thread Muslims should not spread so much hate?

They are not minorities in the religious world...

Do you have to group everyone on the right doing it?
Where did I do that? Or did you just hear that, put on a shoe that maybe doesn't fit?

Lesh is now wanting people to be calm because a Mosque was attacked in Kiwi land but where was he when Muslims were attacking us?
I don't know what you expect from me when there is a terrorist attack like San Bernadino, or Pulse? I was glad the terrorists were dead and I'm sure I said so somewhere or other. I didn't immediately slam every other Muslim in the world because of them. Is that what I have to do to make you happy?

Wow, Lesh and you blast every Christan and then claim I am like the two of you.

I noticed you gutted out what I wrote as usual to spin it about how I am anti-Muslim when in fact I am anti-assholes that includes Lesh and those like you.

You condemn Christian's quickly because you believe they are the true evil in the world while saying " well maybe I said those Muslims were bad, but who knows ".

In the end the individual that attacked the Mosque in Kiwi land is a terrorist and is not excused for his actions by me and should be hung for his crime or if I had my way raped with a six foot pipe up his ass..

But you know this already.

The House of Abraham is a curse on this planet...

 

[HappyJoy]

How much longer in this thread until I find a post by someone who outright claims he wishes he could shoot muslims in cold blood? Page 3? Page 4?

This thread could go on forever, and the only ones who would even suggest such a thing would be dumbass snowflakes attempting to vilify Conservatives with this kind of BS accusation.

Right buddy, it's not like we haven't seen a few gleeful posts about the attacks today.

 

[Mac1958]

Mass Shooting At 2 New Zealand Mosques Leaves At Least 49 People Dead | HuffPost

It's allover this board and it's all over this country and people are getting KILLED because of it.

This has to stop.

How long before another white Nationalist kills a bunch of immigrants or Muslims or whatever the target is this month?

We've already had them target a Jewish Synagogue and a black church.

STOP people. Stop the hate speech.

NOW

**** you. This is looong over due. May many more be yet to come. Drive these sand devil pieces of shit back to the desert where they belong.

Hey Mac1958, comment?

Happily! From post 5:

"It gives the crazies fuel. It gives talk radio fuel."

See? Both of you keep illustrating my point.
.

It appears to give you fuel.

But that's an interesting response. The wingnut says this is long over due, I ask you your opinion and your response is "it gives the crazies fuel on both sides" (paraphrasing).

How intellectually dishonest do you have to be to still call both sides the same? You literally treated both 'equally' there. Nice job, way to disprove your own reason for being on this board.

And there ya go again.

The same. Equal.

Clearly you're not going to understand this.

That's okay. Plenty from other tribe don't either.
.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I would rather see things improve than have wingers making them even worse by pointing the finger and refusing hold their tribe accountable.

I'm fine with being in the minority here on that.
.

What is my tribe? I denounce extremism from Islamic nutbags, but stand in strong defense of peaceful Muslims. name my tribe.

Name one "peaceful" mostly Islamic country please.

Why? That has nothing to do with what I have said.

Do you know any Muslims personally?

Yes. Several. All in arranged marriages, all treat women as 2nd class citizens. Cool with me as I am man but if I were a woman they would not converse with me. And it has to do with everything. Every place where your "peaceful" Moslems are the majority is a major disaster area in terms of humanitarian values. How do you explain that?

You know several Muslims in America who are violent extremists?

F*CK NO! At least I hope they aren't! That was not your initial question and you didn't answer my question. Rude.