montelatici
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I never link to Wiki as you well know. Why are you such a pathological liar. What is your problem? Do you think that these false accusations and lies won't be found out? Are you that stupid?
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You continue to be befuddled. The invading / colonizing Turks were not native 'Pal'istanians. "Turk" suggests they were from somewhere else. Can you guess where? Raise your hand if you have an answer.There was no Israel or Jews! We get it. The Arab Muslims have been there for 20,000 years, give or take. And I bet you have this out of context UN document that proves it conclusively.Israel did not remain. Rome remained Rome and Romans remained Romans. Palestine was renamed Israel and a bunch of Europeans whose ancestors converted to Judaism were imported to the place by the British and the native inhabitants, the descendants of the Philistines, Canaanites, Jews, Samaritans and other people that lived in the area, who converted to the Roman religions, Christianity and Islam at different times, were evicted.
The people now of the Christian and Muslim faiths in Palestine are the descendants of the native people that adopted various languages and adopted and/or converted to various religions over the centuries.
Palestine is no different than any other place in the world from that standpoint.
For example, the Algerians are still predominately Amazighs (Berbers) ethnically though they call themselves Arabs and now mostly speak Arabic and converted from Christianity to Islam. The Phoenician, Roman, Visigoth, Arabian, Ottoman and French invasions did not change the ethnicity of the native inhabitants. The invaders were ruling elites (though the French tried their hand at settler colonialism, they failed in the end).
Similarly, Egyptian, Syrian and Lebanese invaders / squatters would not be native to Pal'istan. Can you guess why? Remember, raise your hand if you have an answer.
There were no settler colonists Turks, there were no settler colonist Egyptians, there were no settler colonist Syrians and there were no settler colonist Lebanese. The only settler colonists were the Zionist Jews.
The Palestinians are the native people of Palestine, the Jews came from Europe and elsewhere outside of Palestine, full stop.
That's just historical fact.
Posting fantasy history does not make the fantasy any more true. But you do provide entertainment.
Find one post that I have included a link to Wiki regarding the I/P issue. Go ahead give it a try bozo.
Dont have to. You don't post on any other forum ever, therefore, when you posted from wiki, it was always regarding the IP issue, troll.Find one post that I have included a link to Wiki regarding the I/P issue. Go ahead give it a try bozo.
Dont have to. You don't post on any other forum ever, therefore, when you posted from wiki, it was always regarding the IP issue, troll.Find one post that I have included a link to Wiki regarding the I/P issue. Go ahead give it a try bozo.
Then show an example, otherwise it´s you who is the foolYeah yeah, you are virtually parked here and have posted from wiki right here as well. The only person you're fooling is yourself.
You want me to waste my time for what again?Then show an example, otherwise it´s you who is the foolYeah yeah, you are virtually parked here and have posted from wiki right here as well. The only person you're fooling is yourself.
You want me to waste my time for what again?Then show an example, otherwise it´s you who is the foolYeah yeah, you are virtually parked here and have posted from wiki right here as well. The only person you're fooling is yourself.
Ha ha ha ha. I'm not an out of work antisemtic bum like you to search through thousands of your garbage posts to prove that you lie about not using wiki yourself. My time is money.You want me to waste my time for what again?Then show an example, otherwise it´s you who is the foolYeah yeah, you are virtually parked here and have posted from wiki right here as well. The only person you're fooling is yourself.
You have never found a link to Wiki on my part for the I/P or any controversial issue. And, you can't find one now. You are a pathological liar.
Ha ha ha ha. I'm not an out of work antisemtic bum like you to search through thousands of your garbage posts to prove that you lie about not using wiki yourself. My time is money.You want me to waste my time for what again?Then show an example, otherwise it´s you who is the foolYeah yeah, you are virtually parked here and have posted from wiki right here as well. The only person you're fooling is yourself.
You have never found a link to Wiki on my part for the I/P or any controversial issue. And, you can't find one now. You are a pathological liar.
You lie. It's a well known fact. You do that to demonize Jews and promote your hate. Also a known fact.
It's not as much a Muslim issue as it is an issue of a people who fled surrounding Arab nations in the past century to gain work as the Jews turned the region into the most prosperous region in the Middle East. Arabs serve in the Israeli military, police and government. Despite differences they may have, these Arabs work out their differences in a civilized behavior.
Unlike most Palestinians who glorify murdering children, both theirs and Israeli.
March those that are unwilling to swear a loyalty oath to Israel to Syria where they can live in a region more to their liking.
Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of AmericaIt's not as much a Muslim issue as it is an issue of a people who fled surrounding Arab nations in the past century to gain work as the Jews turned the region into the most prosperous region in the Middle East. Arabs serve in the Israeli military, police and government. Despite differences they may have, these Arabs work out their differences in a civilized behavior.
Unlike most Palestinians who glorify murdering children, both theirs and Israeli.
March those that are unwilling to swear a loyalty oath to Israel to Syria where they can live in a region more to their liking.
That's the dumbest plan ever.
You expect my enemy to swear loyalty to me?
We're no America. You cannot compare.
What percent of Palestinians would take such an oath for Israel?We're no America. You cannot compare.
IN order for there to be peace the Palestinians must state they want peace.In order to achieve peaceful coexistence in Palestine/Israel, it is imperative that both Palestinians and Israelis hear the true stories of the other and acknowledge their own wrongdoings.
This book documents, using historical sources, the wrongdoings that were done to the Palestinians during the 1948 war (the Israeli war of independence and the war the Palestinians call the catastrophe). This book analyses historical evidence from Israeli sources, indepdently proving true the 1948 experiences the Palestinian refugees, men and women, rich and poor, muslim and christian recount about their cleansing from their land and property.
These events of 1948 accounted here were censored by the perpetrators from even the Israeli population. These events were never added to school books and intentionally pushed out of the Israeli society's consciousness.
However, these events and experiences are vivid in the Palestinian consciousness. Palestinians continue to live the consequences of their diaspora and forced migration in 1948 today.
In order to achieve peace, it is crucial to understand the Palestinian experience and acknowledge it. These experiences are just as true and unquestionable to Palestinians as true and unquestionable the holocaust is to the Israelis.
Now it is totally expected that the book would face resistance and bad reviews here by some Israelis who have never heard these stories and are unwilling to hear them (thanks to censorship). Similarly, zionist enthusiasts are likely to resist this book as they've always resisted any effort that would make heard the Palestinian history.
But a mutual acknowledgement of history in its good and bad, accepting responsibility for crimes and correcting any wrongdoings are a must for both sides to achieve true peace with the other.
This book is a must read for anyone (Israeli, Palestinian, Western or Eastern) that is truly interested in peace in the middle east and in a well-founded and well-informed understanding of the Palestinian situation.
Amazon.com: The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine (8601200823448): Ilan Pappe: Books