CDZ Thousands of Complaints Do Little to Change Police Ways

[Andylusion]

thats your extreme drama mischaracterization and has nothing to do with my position.

You said that the police shouldn't do anything because those people are "innocent until proven guilty". You said that. Not me.

Because here's the deal.... if you have a criminal that resists being arrested, and you tell police they have to stop the criminal, there is a chance the criminal is going to get killed.

They only way to avoid criminals getting killed, is by not having the police stop them. That's how that works.

So if you are going to say "can't do anything that might cause a criminal to die, because he is innocent until proven guilty", then we should just eliminate the police force.

And you'll see... police are already pulling out of high crime areas, because none of them want to be the next imprisoned officer for doing what they are told to do.

 

[KokomoJojo]

You said that the police shouldn't do anything because those people are "innocent until proven guilty".

I dont see the quote, where is it? Until then I could care less what your deal is.

 

[toobfreak]

Below is part of a story about police misconduct complaints, which apparently does not change cop misbehavior. It's from the NY Times, which generally I take with a grain of salt or 2, so if anyone has a different take then by all means share it. Note the problems with holding a police officer accountable, and the difficulties and dangers an officer faces while on duty. And I think it's fair to say that some suspects are shall we say not that cooperative. Possibly for understandable reasons when they know they haven't done anything wrong, BUT you don't want to make an officer think his well-being are threatened.

Is it not feasible to give officers non-lethal means to subdue somebody that is strenuously resisting? If the guy is already handcuffed, then tie his feet together so he/she is unable to move. You don't have to keep your knee of somebody's neck for almost 9 minutes, right? And 17 misconduct complaints, WTF?

In nearly two decades with the Minneapolis Police Department, Derek Chauvin faced at least 17 misconduct complaints, none of which derailed his career.

Over the years, civilian review boards came and went, and a federal review recommended that the troubled department improve its system for flagging problematic officers.

All the while, Chauvin tussled with a man before firing two shots, critically wounding him. He was admonished for using derogatory language and a demeaning tone with the public. He was named in a brutality lawsuit. But he received no discipline other than two letters of reprimand.

It was not until Chauvin, 44, was seen in a video with his left knee pinned to the neck of a black man, prone for nearly nine minutes and pleading for relief, that the officer, who is white, was suspended, fired and then, on Friday, charged with murder.

His case is not unusual. Critics say the department, despite its long history of accusations of abuse, never fully put in place federal recommendations to overhaul the way in which it tracks complaints and punishes officers — with just a handful over the years facing termination or severe punishment.

Even as outrage has mounted over deaths at the hands of the police, it remains notoriously difficult in the United States to hold officers accountable, in part because of the political clout of police unions, the reluctance of investigators, prosecutors and juries to second-guess an officer’s split-second decision and the wide latitude the law gives police officers to use force.

Police departments themselves have often resisted civilian review or dragged their feet when it comes to overhauling officer disciplinary practices. And even change-oriented police chiefs in cities like Baltimore and Philadelphia — which over the last few years have been the sites of high-profile deaths of black men by white officers — have struggled to punish or remove bad actors.

Thousands of Complaints Do Little to Change Police Ways

In nearly two decades with the Minneapolis Police Department, Derek Chauvin faced at least 17 misconduct complaints, none of which derailed his career.Over the years, civilian review boards came and went, and a federal review recommended that the troubled department improve its system for...

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I have an idea, Task:

All those arrested for looting and arson, rather than put them in prison, make them get up at 4AM, go out into the cold, drive a squad car, and respond to every call of a domestic fight, speeding, bank robbery and shoplifting where desperate people with knives and guns fight with you all day long spitting on you trying to kill you. Make then wrestle them down, arrest them, get them in the squad car, bring them in and book them.

I bet after a week, they will LOVE THE POLICE.