Those Voices Don't Speak For The Rest Of Us

[daveman]

Those of us who were born into a "different America" and grew up in that America can remember when she was a proud nation, had the respect of most of the world, and was looked up to. We were a free country. The feeling was almost palpable. We could be very proud to say we were Americans and could travel in safety to other countries without being booed, hissed and spat upon.

How badly we have fallen. But by staying informed, being vigilant, working together, it's possible to bring that America back, if not for ourselves, then for our children and grandchildren. Americans have a tendency to forget - let's hope the shameful, despotic performance of this administration will teach us to remember ... for a long, long time and keep us fighting back against tyranny.

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.

-- Ronald Reagan

 

[Care4all]

so this never happened during Clintons 8 years?......that old lunatic Ross Perot was right wasnt he, about if NAFTA is passed you will hear the sucking sound of jobs being sucked out of the country....and who signed NAFTA?.....

george hubert walker bush created the NAFTA treaty/trade agreement, clinton, before he was president, promised he would see NAFTA through if he became president, and if it passed a vote in congress, he would sign the bill....he campaigned saying such...

looking back on it, it seems like the big lobbies for NAFTA, must have gotten clinton to agree to signing it, for their financial support of his presidential run....

presidents are just puppets of those behind the curtain...scary...

Actually Reagan had proposed something sort of like NAFTA. And it was doubtless an old idea by then.
Do you have any support for the idea that Clinton was essentially bribed into supporting NAFTA, as opposed to the concept he thought it was a good idea?
Probably not. Merely practicing your well-rehearsed "seagull" method of posting: fly in, dump a load of crap, and fly out again.
Actually NAFTA has been very helpful, creating thousands of jobs, many more than were lost. This is why the unemployment rate was at record lows in the years following its passage and why trade with Mexico and Canada have soared.
But facts are stubborn things.

He bucked the Party on the issue, if memory serves me....there were many Democrats opposed to it, same with welfare reform, there were many Democrats opposed to it, but he did it anyway....and you don't see that "bucking of the Party" in many democratic Politicians imo....unless of course, there is some sort of financial gain in it for them.

 

[The Rabbi]

george hubert walker bush created the NAFTA treaty/trade agreement, clinton, before he was president, promised he would see NAFTA through if he became president, and if it passed a vote in congress, he would sign the bill....he campaigned saying such...

looking back on it, it seems like the big lobbies for NAFTA, must have gotten clinton to agree to signing it, for their financial support of his presidential run....

presidents are just puppets of those behind the curtain...scary...

Actually Reagan had proposed something sort of like NAFTA. And it was doubtless an old idea by then.
Do you have any support for the idea that Clinton was essentially bribed into supporting NAFTA, as opposed to the concept he thought it was a good idea?
Probably not. Merely practicing your well-rehearsed "seagull" method of posting: fly in, dump a load of crap, and fly out again.
Actually NAFTA has been very helpful, creating thousands of jobs, many more than were lost. This is why the unemployment rate was at record lows in the years following its passage and why trade with Mexico and Canada have soared.
But facts are stubborn things.

He bucked the Party on the issue, if memory serves me....there were many Democrats opposed to it, same with welfare reform, there were many Democrats opposed to it, but he did it anyway....and you don't see that "bucking of the Party" in many democratic Politicians imo....unless of course, there is some sort of financial gain in it for them.

Clinton bucked the party with welfare reform too.
What financial gain was there in that for him?

Your points are heading into conspiracy theory territory. Nor do you have anything remotely resembling facts to back you up.
IOW, a typical post for you.

 

[Care4all]

Actually Reagan had proposed something sort of like NAFTA. And it was doubtless an old idea by then.
Do you have any support for the idea that Clinton was essentially bribed into supporting NAFTA, as opposed to the concept he thought it was a good idea?
Probably not. Merely practicing your well-rehearsed "seagull" method of posting: fly in, dump a load of crap, and fly out again.
Actually NAFTA has been very helpful, creating thousands of jobs, many more than were lost. This is why the unemployment rate was at record lows in the years following its passage and why trade with Mexico and Canada have soared.
But facts are stubborn things.

He bucked the Party on the issue, if memory serves me....there were many Democrats opposed to it, same with welfare reform, there were many Democrats opposed to it, but he did it anyway....and you don't see that "bucking of the Party" in many democratic Politicians imo....unless of course, there is some sort of financial gain in it for them.

Clinton bucked the party with welfare reform too.
What financial gain was there in that for him?

Your points are heading into conspiracy theory territory. Nor do you have anything remotely resembling facts to back you up.
IOW, a typical post for you.

thank you so much, your hollow and transparent posts contribute so much to this board as well!

 

[The Rabbi]

He bucked the Party on the issue, if memory serves me....there were many Democrats opposed to it, same with welfare reform, there were many Democrats opposed to it, but he did it anyway....and you don't see that "bucking of the Party" in many democratic Politicians imo....unless of course, there is some sort of financial gain in it for them.

Clinton bucked the party with welfare reform too.
What financial gain was there in that for him?

Your points are heading into conspiracy theory territory. Nor do you have anything remotely resembling facts to back you up.
IOW, a typical post for you.

thank you so much, your hollow and transparent posts contribute so much to this board as well!

I dont write stuff that can't be backed up or argued logically. I don't post conspiracy theories as facts.
And I don't neg rep people because I got my little feelings hurt.
IOW, I'm the exact opposite of you.

 

[The Rabbi]

He bucked the Party on the issue, if memory serves me....there were many Democrats opposed to it, same with welfare reform, there were many Democrats opposed to it, but he did it anyway....and you don't see that "bucking of the Party" in many democratic Politicians imo....unless of course, there is some sort of financial gain in it for them.

Clinton bucked the party with welfare reform too.
What financial gain was there in that for him?

Your points are heading into conspiracy theory territory. Nor do you have anything remotely resembling facts to back you up.
IOW, a typical post for you.

thank you so much, your hollow and transparent posts contribute so much to this board as well!

IOW: no you cannot substantiate anything about Clinton you wrote, but you "know" it must be true because...well, it must be.
Thanks for confirming that.

 

[Sinatra]

The Reagan video now has well over 200,000 views - just a few days ago it had about 6000 views.

Remarkable!!! The video is being shared among tens of thousands of new viewers each day!!

And now given Democrat Pelosi's startling desire to want to investigate those speaking out against the Ground Zero Mosque - well, the Democrat Party lunacy gets easier and easier to expose...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wusgcG4rfo]YouTube - "Those Voices Don't Speak for the Rest of Us"[/ame]

 

[Charles_Main]

Well done.

And with just a tiny fraction of "The Speech", (A Time For Choosing) to boot. Far and away the greatest political speech of all time. (Lincoln who? Kennedy what?)

YouTube - "A Time for Choosing" by Ronald Reagan


Sadly, and I swear this is the first time I've done this here (I think) but I think we passed the point of no return under "W" Bush. Hard to nail down the exact date and there is no doubt that Gore or Kerry would have been worse (as Obama proves daily). Still, there is no going back to limited government sanity. At least not w/o or before a truely devistating economic crash the likes of which we have never seen. (God knows if we will ever recover to half of what we once were once that happens)

On edit:

I forgot to add... have a nice day!

You really think it was Medicare Part B and the patriot act that broke the camels Back? Please we lost the idea of a limited Fed As a result of the Civil war, and have been steadily shedding any remnants of a Federal Republic ever since. You want to look to the single biggest cause of the loss of the idea of limited Federal Power look no further than the liberal Dominated courts, and public Education system. The First one bends the meaning of the constitution and continuously rules in favor of ever expanding Federal Power and diminishing States Rights, and the latter Brain washes our Youth into thinking FDR was the greatest president ever and his Socialist Policies saved us from the Great Depression.

Frankly we have not had a chance to get it back for a couple Generations now.

 

[Sinatra]

Well done.

And with just a tiny fraction of "The Speech", (A Time For Choosing) to boot. Far and away the greatest political speech of all time. (Lincoln who? Kennedy what?)

YouTube - "A Time for Choosing" by Ronald Reagan


Sadly, and I swear this is the first time I've done this here (I think) but I think we passed the point of no return under "W" Bush. Hard to nail down the exact date and there is no doubt that Gore or Kerry would have been worse (as Obama proves daily). Still, there is no going back to limited government sanity. At least not w/o or before a truely devistating economic crash the likes of which we have never seen. (God knows if we will ever recover to half of what we once were once that happens)

On edit:

I forgot to add... have a nice day!

You really think it was Medicare Part B and the patriot act that broke the camels Back? Please we lost the idea of a limited Fed As a result of the Civil war, and have been steadily shedding any remnants of a Federal Republic ever since. You want to look to the single biggest cause of the loss of the idea of limited Federal Power look no further than the liberal Dominated courts, and public Education system. The First one bends the meaning of the constitution and continuously rules in favor of ever expanding Federal Power and diminishing States Rights, and the latter Brain washes our Youth into thinking FDR was the greatest president ever and his Socialist Policies saved us from the Great Depression.

Frankly we have not had a chance to get it back for a couple Generations now.

Very true regarding the mythology of FDR.

FDR was a good wartime president and for that he deserves much credit.

FDR was a disastrous economic president, and for that he deserves far more scrutiny.

 

[uscitizen]

The Reagan video now has well over 200,000 views - just a few days ago it had about 6000 views.

Remarkable!!! The video is being shared among tens of thousands of new viewers each day!!

And now given Democrat Pelosi's startling desire to want to investigate those speaking out against the Ground Zero Mosque - well, the Democrat Party lunacy gets easier and easier to expose...

YouTube - "Those Voices Don't Speak for the Rest of Us"

Of course it has had lots of views. I got it on a right wing viral email thing.

 

[Sinatra]

The Reagan video now has well over 200,000 views - just a few days ago it had about 6000 views.

Remarkable!!! The video is being shared among tens of thousands of new viewers each day!!

And now given Democrat Pelosi's startling desire to want to investigate those speaking out against the Ground Zero Mosque - well, the Democrat Party lunacy gets easier and easier to expose...

YouTube - "Those Voices Don't Speak for the Rest of Us"

Of course it has had lots of views. I got it on a right wing viral email thing.

One of many methods - the response to the video has been very positive and strong - and deservedly so. Great video.

Amazing how Reagan's words from 1964 ring so powerfully true today.

Remarkable President.

Remarkable Man.

God Bless Ronald Reagan...

 

[The Rabbi]

The Reagan video now has well over 200,000 views - just a few days ago it had about 6000 views.

Remarkable!!! The video is being shared among tens of thousands of new viewers each day!!

And now given Democrat Pelosi's startling desire to want to investigate those speaking out against the Ground Zero Mosque - well, the Democrat Party lunacy gets easier and easier to expose...

YouTube - "Those Voices Don't Speak for the Rest of Us"

Of course it has had lots of views. I got it on a right wing viral email thing.

One of many methods - the response to the video has been very positive and strong - and deservedly so. Great video.

Amazing how Reagan's words from 1964 ring so powerfully true today.

Remarkable President.

Remarkable Man.

God Bless Ronald Reagan...

Amen

 

[Douger]

George Carlin - the American Dream Video

 

[Sinatra]

The video is now surpassing over 300,000 views.

This thing has taken off at an incredible rate - a clear signal of just how hungry Americans have become for some semblance of fiscal/political sanity from their government...


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wusgcG4rfo]YouTube - "Those Voices Don't Speak for the Rest of Us"[/ame]

 

[Flopper]

Is this the same type lie that said clinton had a surplus when he left office?

Nice try but no, Clinton had a surplus in 1999 of 125.6 billion dollar and a 69 billion dollar surplus in 1998, something the Gipper never did.

History of Deficits and Surpluses In The United States

I knew I was going to get a fish. it's a myth there wasn't any surplus
The government can have a surplus even if it has trillions in debt, but it cannot have a surplus if that debt increased every year. This article is about surplus/deficit, not the debt. However, it analyzes the debt to prove there wasn't a surplus under Clinton.
The Myth of the Clinton Surplus

A surplus or deficit is the difference between revenue and expenses. If you change the way you calculate deficits and surpluses then you must do so for all years or administrations, otherwise it makes little sense.

 

[Ragnar]

Sinatra... where are you. This video hasn't been posted for hours.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wusgcG4rfo]YouTube - "Those Voices Don't Speak for the Rest of Us"[/ame]

 

[rx8madness]

I predicted Obama would be where he is now even before he was elected.

I based this prediction on the economic downturn being painful and prolonged.
The right wing media's influence on the people of America.
And the stupidity of a lot of Americans with their short memory and attention spans.

I was of course ridiculed for my prediction at the time, because everyone knew the economy was just adjusting and would bounce back in 6 months or so.

I agree completely with you. I myself seen it coming way before the election was over and knew automatically who was going to win the election 3 months prior to the final day. Everyone was right winged by the media (on the election), if something bad was said about him, it was discarded and not reported. I myself do not have a short span memory and I remember the whole election. He was mainly telling people what they wanted to hear (and still does) but does not follow through and I am sorry to say but our country is paying for it now (unfortunately). I am not saying McCain would have done better, but we never will know now.

Also, I am glad to see that our country is trying to put racism behind us now and we have the first half African / and what other part American (I just say if you live in America - it should be no races, just Americans). He was solely elected on that fact, I hate to be the ball buster, but the media pressed him into office and reported solely good things and like I said earlier - if it was something negative, it got cut off real quick and was told not to be mentioned again. Also he has no viable birth certificate (if so it is lost or hidden very well) that can be found. And if you are an American president then you should have to follow our American President Rituals (such as placing your hand on the bible and covering your heart when the flag is raised or saluting it). But he is our Commander and Chief and a long time ago - I took the oath of protecting this country from foreign and domestic and follow orders of both the Governor of my great state and the President of the United States. Which to this day, I still take very serious. But it is a shame that things are turning out the way they are, we are falling more and more in debt that he promise to fix (it is somewhere in the neighborhood of what 4 trillion dollars now - someone let me know if I am wrong on my calculations) and talking about spending more money THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO SPEND - that is not smart, how can we borrow more money and gain ground enough to get out of debt. You have to take in consideration, the money we already borrowed and spent is increasing interest everyday and then you borrow and spend more money and that interest increases more. At that point we will never be out of debt and the value of the dollar is going to continue to drop more and more. I hope on the next election, people vote for someone that is qualified to be President and has the experience. Honestly, we had neither, they both were just as bad as the other, they both had flaws and people who voted "This is just an opinion, so if you do not like it I am sorry people", voted for the unbelievable and ultimately wrong reason. When you vote it should be based on two things and maybe more but I have said enough so I am cutting myself off to end it: 1. WHERE HE / SHE STANDS ON THE TOPICS AND HOW THEY WILL HANDLE THEM 2. EXPERIENCE!!!!!

I am not a Republican, Democrat, or Liberal (I AM JUST ME), I am not a racist (I AM A MAN WHO BELIEVE EVERYONE IS CREATED EQUAL), but I AM AN AMERICAN (I love my country and will fight for her any day if asked and would protect the governor of my great state at all cost like I would the president) I HONOR THOSE WHO FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY (All Branches of the Armed Forces), THOSE BRAVE SOLES OVER SEAS DESERVE ALL OF OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS, but I DO START TO CRY TO SEE WHERE THIS COUNTRY IS HEADING (DEBT WISE). We once were a great country that stood tall and depended on ourselves, now we out-source on everything - even with our money and that is a shame.

Just Confused in What is Going on in Washington these Days
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I do respect others comments, but if you can make it a respectful comment and not a burn (if you burn me, you are not worth responding to) We are all adults, lets act as such.