Thomas Massie’s America First

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Politically independent will get this. More than likely, ONLY the real politically independents will get this. The others, Trump supporters and democrats probably won't.
There's so much information in this, evidence of wrong doing, I'm not sure how anyone couldn't get this. As in what's completely wrong with our government. And who's responsible for the way it is. Why two sides are constantly bickering. And even worse, dreaming up things to bicker about.

Why can't this country elect someone with these values and a voting record to back it up?

 
Politically independent will get this. More than likely, ONLY the real politically independents will get this. The others, Trump supporters and democrats probably won't.
There's so much information in this, evidence of wrong doing, I'm not sure how anyone couldn't get this. As in what's completely wrong with our government. And who's responsible for the way it is. Why two sides are constantly bickering. And even worse, dreaming up things to bicker about.

Why can't this country elect someone with these values and a voting record to back it up?


Based on everything that I've read about Massie, he seems to be a man of integrity who stands by his beliefs....even though I disagree with him 99% of the time.

Sadly, you cannot say that about any other Republican in Congress.

It's truly disgusting how the party of "free trade" is now licking Trump's balls when it comes to his hopelessly stupid ******* tariffs.

It's truly disgusting how the party that promised to investigate Epstein's client list now doesn't want anything to do with it.

It's truly disgusting how the party that was always tough on Russia now tries to blame Ukraine for a war that Putin started.

I could go on and on. The Republican Party has become a sick, twisted cult. MAGA is their religion and Trump is their God and facts and reason have no place in this world.
 
Based on everything that I've read about Massie, he seems to be a man of integrity who stands by his beliefs....even though I disagree with him 99% of the time.

Sadly, you cannot say that about any other Republican in Congress.

It's truly disgusting how the party of "free trade" is now licking Trump's balls when it comes to his hopelessly stupid ******* tariffs.

It's truly disgusting how the party that promised to investigate Epstein's client list now doesn't want anything to do with it.

It's truly disgusting how the party that was always tough on Russia now tries to blame Ukraine for a war that Putin started.

I could go on and on. The Republican Party has become a sick, twisted cult. MAGA is their religion and Trump is their God and facts and reason have no place in this world.

I'm not sure how anyone disagrees with Massie, 99% of the time. Unless they don't really keep up with him and what he actually does & says. And only go by what his opponents and the media say about him.

He is what the Republicans used to be, before the left leaning RINO's and neocons took over the party.
 
"at least pretend.........."

Not good enough.

But I'm watching what he does..........
 
I'm not sure how anyone disagrees with Massie, 99% of the time. Unless they don't really keep up with him and what he actually does & says. And only go by what his opponents and the media say about him.

He is what the Republicans used to be, before the left leaning RINO's and neocons took over the party.
I believe Massie wants to basically eliminate or significantly reduce all social safety net programs like Medicare and Social Security in order to eliminate the national debt.

He is allowed to hold that belief, but it will cause tremendous pain for millions of poor people in this country if that ever happened.
 
I believe Massie wants to basically eliminate or significantly reduce all social safety net programs like Medicare and Social Security in order to eliminate the national debt.

He is allowed to hold that belief, but it will cause tremendous pain for millions of poor people in this country if that ever happened.

pay for it and then Massie has no soap box to stand on.
 
I've said it once and I will again, if Trump was involved the Democrats would have pounced on it years ago. Instead they fabricated Russia Russia Russia
Biden's DOJ was too busy putting all the Jan 6 traitors in jail and investigating Trump for Jan 6.

There are not infinite resources in the DOJ to investigate all of Trump's crimes, you hopeless simp.

Trump and Republicans made a campaign promise to release all the Epstein files......and they lied to your simp ass.

And you love it when they lie to you. You cherish it when they lie to you. ******* SUCKER.
 
Politically independent will get this. More than likely, ONLY the real politically independents will get this. The others, Trump supporters and democrats probably won't.
There's so much information in this, evidence of wrong doing, I'm not sure how anyone couldn't get this. As in what's completely wrong with our government. And who's responsible for the way it is. Why two sides are constantly bickering. And even worse, dreaming up things to bicker about.

Why can't this country elect someone with these values and a voting record to back it up?


Massie is a Republican. The MAGA party are not Republicans.
 
Biden's DOJ was too busy putting all the Jan 6 traitors in jail and investigating Trump for Jan 6.

There are not infinite resources in the DOJ to investigate all of Trump's crimes, you hopeless simp.

Trump and Republicans made a campaign promise to release all the Epstein files......and they lied to your simp ass.

And you love it when they lie to you. You cherish it when they lie to you. ******* SUCKER.

Shhhh, insignificant one
 
I believe Massie wants to basically eliminate or significantly reduce all social safety net programs like Medicare and Social Security in order to eliminate the national debt.

He is allowed to hold that belief, but it will cause tremendous pain for millions of poor people in this country if that ever happened.

You see, this is what I'm talking about. You think things like this because of something false you read or heard about him. I'm not taking a jab at you. There's a lot of misinformation like this out there.

Here's the facts. And he has a voting record to back it up.

Thomas Massie does not advocate for reducing all social safety net programs like Medicare and Social Security. His legislative record and public statements show a more nuanced stance, primarily focused on reducing what he considers unfair taxation rather than broadly cutting these programs. Massie has consistently pushed to eliminate the income tax on Social Security benefits through the Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act (H.R. 1040, reintroduced multiple times since 2012). This bill aims to remove the "double tax" on Social Security benefits, arguing that seniors shouldn’t be taxed on benefits they’ve already paid into via payroll taxes. This could effectively increase retirees’ disposable income without reducing the program itself. The Senior Citizens League estimates this would save the average senior household about $3,000 annually, though critics like Charles Blahous have raised concerns about its potential to increase the federal deficit by up to $1.5 trillion and strain Social Security’s solvency.

On Medicare, Massie’s position is less clear but leans skeptical of expansion. In a 2022 tweet, he noted that over 70% of Americans who died with COVID-19 were on Medicare, using this to argue against Medicare for All, suggesting it’s not a solution for universal healthcare. Critics pointed out this conflates correlation with causation, as older age, not Medicare itself, likely drove higher mortality. He’s also voted against bills like the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Enhancement Act, indicating resistance to expanding government-run healthcare

However, there’s no evidence Massie has proposed direct cuts to Medicare or Social Security benefits. His voting record and statements, like those in Project Vote Smart surveys, suggest support for market-based reforms, such as allowing individuals to divert Social Security taxes into personal retirement accounts, which some interpret as partial privatization. His broader fiscal conservatism, including opposition to bills like the Inflation Reduction Act, reflects a preference for reducing federal spending overall, which could indirectly pressure safety net programs if budget cuts are prioritized.

In short, Massie’s focus is on tax relief for Social Security recipients and skepticism of expanding programs like Medicare, but he hasn’t explicitly called for slashing these programs’ core benefits. His actions align more with restructuring than outright reduction. Always worth digging into primary sources like his voting record on congress.gov or statements on his official website for the full picture.
 
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You see, this is what I'm talking about. You think things like this because of something false you read or heard about him. I'm not taking a jab at you. There's a lot of misinformation like this out there.

Here's the facts. And he has a voting record to back it up.

Thomas Massie does not advocate for reducing all social safety net programs like Medicare and Social Security. His legislative record and public statements show a more nuanced stance, primarily focused on reducing what he considers unfair taxation rather than broadly cutting these programs. Massie has consistently pushed to eliminate the income tax on Social Security benefits through the Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act (H.R. 1040, reintroduced multiple times since 2012). This bill aims to remove the "double tax" on Social Security benefits, arguing that seniors shouldn’t be taxed on benefits they’ve already paid into via payroll taxes. This could effectively increase retirees’ disposable income without reducing the program itself. The Senior Citizens League estimates this would save the average senior household about $3,000 annually, though critics like Charles Blahous have raised concerns about its potential to increase the federal deficit by up to $1.5 trillion and strain Social Security’s solvency.

On Medicare, Massie’s position is less clear but leans skeptical of expansion. In a 2022 tweet, he noted that over 70% of Americans who died with COVID-19 were on Medicare, using this to argue against Medicare for All, suggesting it’s not a solution for universal healthcare. Critics pointed out this conflates correlation with causation, as older age, not Medicare itself, likely drove higher mortality. He’s also voted against bills like the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Enhancement Act, indicating resistance to expanding government-run healthcare

However, there’s no evidence Massie has proposed direct cuts to Medicare or Social Security benefits. His voting record and statements, like those in Project Vote Smart surveys, suggest support for market-based reforms, such as allowing individuals to divert Social Security taxes into personal retirement accounts, which some interpret as partial privatization. His broader fiscal conservatism, including opposition to bills like the Inflation Reduction Act, reflects a preference for reducing federal spending overall, which could indirectly pressure safety net programs if budget cuts are prioritized.

In short, Massie’s focus is on tax relief for Social Security recipients and skepticism of expanding programs like Medicare, but he hasn’t explicitly called for slashing these programs’ core benefits. His actions align more with restructuring than outright reduction. Always worth digging into primary sources like his voting record on congress.gov or statements on his official website for the full picture.
"market based reforms".....common Republican code words for privatizing Social Security and Medicare so that it can eventually become insolvent and be eliminated.

Regarding Massie's proposal for Social Security....He wants to reduce Social Security taxes, which will make Social Security insolvent more quickly. --
  • The Social Security Administration has projected that, without congressional action, the trust fund will be depleted by 2033, potentially leading to an across-the-board benefit reduction. Massie's tax elimination could accelerate this timeline.
 
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