This would not be happening if Harris had won instead of Trump

[struth]

China sells its products in countries other than America.

We are by far their biggest customer, they are hurting bigly.

 

[IM2]

They've already been selling to those countries. So who are they going to sell to to replace the lost US Markets? That source of revenue is just gone now. It may never come back.

Hate to tell you, but there are bigger markets than ours. And China is moving in on them. They hold most of our debt, they can destroy us if they want.

 

[struth]

Hate to tell you, but there are bigger markets than ours. And China is moving in on them. They hold most of our debt, they can destroy us if they want.

Like where?

 

[Eman623]

Hate to tell you, but there are bigger markets than ours. And China is moving in on them. They hold most of our debt, they can destroy us if they want.

There is no bigger consumer market than the USA.

And China already moved in on Europe 30 years ago. Right now Europe is enacting its own tariffs to prevent Chinese dumping.

China does not hold most of our debt either.

Wow. Every word in your last post was wrong.

 

[IM2]

There is no bigger consumer market than the USA.

And China already moved in on Europe 30 years ago. Right now Europe is enacting its own tariffs to prevent Chinese dumping.

China does not hold most of our debt either.

Wow. Every word in your last post was wrong.

"China is one of the United States's largest creditors, owning about $859.4 billion in U.S. debt. "

How big is China's debt and who owns it? (2025)

China’s domestic debt, denominated in yuan, consists of three components: corporate, household and government debt. Corporate debt includes borrowings by private sector and state-owned companies, while China’s public debt is a combination of national and local government debt. Household debt...

investguiding.com

They are moving in on the African market, and that's more than 1 billion people.

Thanks for playing.

 

[struth]

"China is one of the United States's largest creditors, owning about $859.4 billion in U.S. debt. "

How big is China's debt and who owns it? (2025)

China’s domestic debt, denominated in yuan, consists of three components: corporate, household and government debt. Corporate debt includes borrowings by private sector and state-owned companies, while China’s public debt is a combination of national and local government debt. Household debt...

investguiding.com

They are moving in on the African market, and that's more than 1 billion people.

Thanks for playing.

You think Africa has more buying power than the United States? Haha. They are living in huts

And yes China owns a lot of debt, thanks for highlighting the issue trump is trying to address

 

[IM2]

All I can say is that you trump supporters better hope this works, because in a few months, we're going to see the start of the results. Trump telling you that countries are coming t the table are lies, and his fixation on trade deficits is dumb because there are areas where we have huge trade surpluses, and Trump tariffs can destroy the will of these countries to do trade with us.

 

[theHawk]

China sells its products in countries other than America.

Apparently not so much. Otherwise why are they going bankrupt?

 

[TimFitz]

What more is there to say?

Just watch the video

Trump is keeping his campaign promise

and thats bad news for the CCP

No.

It would not.

We wou;d not have squandered our leadership with an unprovoked and pointless trade war.

We would have the respect of our allies.

Our President would not be a global pariah and a joke.

 

[IM2]

Apparently not so much. Otherwise why are they going bankrupt?

According to who are they going bankrupt?

 

[TimFitz]

Not really. The entire DNC is rooting for their President Xi over Trump

How tribal!

Parochial, jingoistic and baseless.

 

[whitehall]

God help us if Harris won. There would be another million illegal aliens in the U.S., more fentanyl deaths, a half dozen foreign wars, Americans labeled as terrorists for speaking out in school board meetings and praying in front of baby killing clinics, women brutalized in sports by pretend women and American women raped and killed by illegal aliens. Did I miss anything?

 

[Eman623]

"China is one of the United States's largest creditors, owning about $859.4 billion in U.S. debt. "

How big is China's debt and who owns it? (2025)

China’s domestic debt, denominated in yuan, consists of three components: corporate, household and government debt. Corporate debt includes borrowings by private sector and state-owned companies, while China’s public debt is a combination of national and local government debt. Household debt...

investguiding.com

Glad to see you understand they are not the largest like you said before.

They are moving in on the African market, and that's more than 1 billion people.

The entire continent of Africa has a GDP that is about 1/9th the USA's. China is not gonna replace the lost USA market there.

Thanks for playing.

You can't win if you don't play, and I do love winning.

 

[TimFitz]

Glad to see you understand they are not the largest like you said before.


The entire continent of Africa has a GDP that is about 1/9th the USA's. China is not gonna replace the lost USA market there.


You can't win if you don't play, and I do love winning.

And the Chinese wasted no time in demonstating their leverage.

As soon as Trump announced his pointless self destructive tarrifs, China responded with tarrifs of their own.

As the stock market swooned, Beijing dumped a bunch of US debt.

Typically, investors run to bonds when the stock market goes down like it did.

But, because the Chinese retaliated against Trump in a way that none of his flunkies imagined, US Treasury bond prices fell as the stock market did.

Hi a did a lot of other strategically timed things as well. Like cutting off all soybean imports from the U.S.

 

[luiza]

China sells its products in countries other than America.

The Racist reduced to eating words by muttering random ones, not knowing if they read like a sentence with meaning or added information.

How on earth did you find out China has more customers than the US , IQ -2.0 ?
What research .
What insight .

What a Dumb Cluck

 

[Doc7505]

Odd that you support China and the CCP

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Not really... Judging from IQ=2's posting, she is a rabid Mao Zedong fellow traveler and refers to her little red book continually...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

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Not really... Judging from IQ-2's posting, she is a rabid Mao Zedong fellow traveler and refers to her little red book continually...

Surely IM2 is aware of the CCP's opinion of American blacks, no?

 

[Eman623]

And the Chinese wasted no time in demonstating their leverage.

As soon as Trump announced his pointless self destructive tarrifs, China responded with tarrifs of their own.

Not sure why China punishes it's own citizens with a tax to get back at American, but Chinese tariffs on us don't hurt us nearly as much as our tariffs on China hurt them.

• They export about 3x as much to us as we export to them.
• We are their #1 export market, they are #3 or 4 for us
• We don't have an export economy
• We have a bigger economy than China.

As the stock market swooned, Beijing dumped a bunch of US debt.

Stock market has been rallying.

Typically, investors run to bonds when the stock market goes down like it did.

But, because the Chinese retaliated against Trump in a way that none of his flunkies imagined, US Treasury bond prices fell as the stock market did.

Bond prices are bouncing back too.

Hi a did a lot of other strategically timed things as well. Like cutting off all soybean imports from the U.S.

And they canceled the Boeing Jets which took us a cup of coffee to find new buyers for.

But in general, your point is valid. Trump has staked his presidency and perhaps the future of the country, on disengagement from China. Personally I'm going to stop buying Chinese crap if a US alternative is available.

For example, I bought a tabletop gas grill yesterday and selected a Weber which is US made. It'll cost more, but hopefully it will last longer and be safer (I once had a cheap Chinese grill that started burning out of control and almost blew up the propane tank)

 

[theHawk]

According to who are they going bankrupt?

News sources that their factories are shutting down, nothing is shipping, banks are failing….

 

[Mac-7]

No.

It would not.

We wou;d not have squandered our leadership with an unprovoked and pointless trade war.

We would have the respect of our allies.

Our President would not be a global pariah and a joke.

“Unprovoked and pointless?”

You are so eager for trump to lose and china to win that you dont even bother to hide it

The US is still leading the free world

Our preferred trading partners are as threatened by chinese mercantilism as the US is