This was not a Canadian mass public shooting, the 6 officers were shot during a standard bank robbery in Canada....

[2aguy]

In gun controlled Canada...

AANICH, British Columbia, June 28 (Reuters) - Canadian police shot dead two men and six officers were wounded during a gunfight at a bank in British Columbia on Tuesday, and nearby homes were evacuated after the discovery of a possible explosive device, police said.
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The suspects were "heavily armed" and initial reports suggested they wore body armor, Saanich police chief Dean Duthie told a news conference.
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Six officers were taken to hospital with gunshot wounds, some of whom would soon be released but others "sustained very serious injuries and have been taken into surgery," Duthie said.

Two gunmen killed, six officers wounded in shootout at Canadian bank

Canadian police shot dead two men and six officers were wounded during a gunfight at a bank in British Columbia on Tuesday, and nearby homes were evacuated after the discovery of a possible explosive device, police said.

www.reuters.com

As I always ask after an event like this in a country that brags about their gun control laws....

Which Canadian gun control law kept these two guys from walking into a school, church, theater, or mall, and shooting innocent people...

I will wait with no expectation of getting an answer from the anti-gun fanatics...

 

[Donald H]

Canada starts to catch on to the American way of guns and the resulting slaughter, but Canada will never catch up.

And now, perhaps the Conservative party will be shamed by this incident and start to cooperate with the Liberals' agenda to nip it in the bud.

Hopefully the Cons will look outward to countries in which gun control measures work?

 

[Donald H]

Which Canadian gun control law kept these two guys from walking into a school, church, theater, or mall, and shooting innocent people...

No gun control law but some gun control laws will reduce the severity.

That which prevents the massacre at schools, churches, theatres, is the lack of the culture of continuous wars as has been the practice in the country that does nothing to stop the massacre.

 

[Magnus]

In gun controlled Canada...

AANICH, British Columbia, June 28 (Reuters) - Canadian police shot dead two men and six officers were wounded during a gunfight at a bank in British Columbia on Tuesday, and nearby homes were evacuated after the discovery of a possible explosive device, police said.
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The suspects were "heavily armed" and initial reports suggested they wore body armor, Saanich police chief Dean Duthie told a news conference.
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Six officers were taken to hospital with gunshot wounds, some of whom would soon be released but others "sustained very serious injuries and have been taken into surgery," Duthie said.

Two gunmen killed, six officers wounded in shootout at Canadian bank

Canadian police shot dead two men and six officers were wounded during a gunfight at a bank in British Columbia on Tuesday, and nearby homes were evacuated after the discovery of a possible explosive device, police said.

www.reuters.com

As I always ask after an event like this in a country that brags about their gun control laws....

Which Canadian gun control law kept these two guys from walking into a school, church, theater, or mall, and shooting innocent people...

I will wait with no expectation of getting an answer from the anti-gun fanatics...

No gun laws will bring mass shootings down to 0. But they do bring down access. Hence, countries with strict gun laws have much lower mass shootings as compared to the US.

As an analogy - Banks have the strictest security in place. Punishments for those convicted of bank robbery are severe. And yet... bank robberies do occur.

Based on your dingbat assertion, banks should just give up on security, right? Just open up the vault. Hey, you can't prevent it, so might as well just go with the flow, amIright?

 

[2aguy]

No gun laws will bring mass shootings down to 0. But they do bring down access. Hence, countries with strict gun laws have much lower mass shootings as compared to the US.

As an analogy - Banks have the strictest security in place. Punishments for those convicted of bank robbery are severe. And yet... bank robberies do occur.

Based on your dingbat assertion, banks should just give up on security, right? Just open up the vault. Hey, you can't prevent it, so might as well just go with the flow, amIright?

You cant show that that is a true statement…..Britain averaged 1 mass public shooting every 10 years before the banned guns…. They have had a mass public shooting Once every 10 years since they banned guns…..The Cumbria shooting and the most recent Plymouth shooting…

Since Australia banned guns, they have had about a dozen public shootings, they failed to reach mass public shooting status only because the killer, with a gun, in a public space, failed to kill 3 victims

So you cant show that gun control has reduced mass public shootings over seas…

Like, say, France….who holds the record for the most people murdered in a mass public shooting, 137……and the killers in that isednfully automatic military rifles…..which are illegal on the continent, in France and in Paris….and that attack was after the 12 murdered with more fully automatic rifles at Charlie Hebdo….

With over 330 million Americans, 600 million guns in private hands, and over 21.5 million Americans who can carry guns in public for self defense…

How many mass public shooters did we have in 2021?

6

Out of over 330 million people…

How many killed?

43

Deer kill 200 people a year

Ladders kill 300 people a year

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year

You have not factual, truthful argument to make

 

[2aguy]

No gun control law but some gun control laws will reduce the severity.

That which prevents the massacre at schools, churches, theatres, is the lack of the culture of continuous wars as has been the practice in the country that does nothing to stop the massacre.

Again…..you failed to show us which Canadian gun control law kept these guys from killing kids in a school….

Still waiting…..

 

[Magnus]

You cant show that that is a true statement…..Britain averaged 1 mass public shooting every 10 years before the banned guns…. They have had a mass public shooting Once every 10 years since they banned guns…..The Cumbria shooting and the most recent Plymouth shooting…

Since Australia banned guns, they have had about a dozen public shootings, they failed to reach mass public shooting status only because the killer, with a gun, in a public space, failed to kill 3 victims

So you cant show that gun control has reduced mass public shootings over seas…

Like, say, France….who holds the record for the most people murdered in a mass public shooting, 137……and the killers in that isednfully automatic military rifles…..which are illegal on the continent, in France and in Paris….and that attack was after the 12 murdered with more fully automatic rifles at Charlie Hebdo….

With over 330 million Americans, 600 million guns in private hands, and over 21.5 million Americans who can carry guns in public for self defense…

How many mass public shooters did we have in 2021?

6

Out of over 330 million people…

How many killed?

43

Deer kill 200 people a year

Ladders kill 300 people a year

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year

You have not factual, truthful argument to make

Where are the fuck are you getting your facts? Only 6 shooters in 2021 in the US? Guess again. Below is just a partial list. Just took only mass shootings with over 10 people (dead or insured). For the full list, go here

2021 date	City	State	Dead	Injured	Total	Description
May 30	Hialeah	Florida	3	20	23	2021 Hialeah shooting: Three shooters stepped out of a white SUV, using assault rifles and handguns, and opened fire on a billiards club. Some of the gunmen are still at large.[479]
April 15	Indianapolis (5)	Indiana	9[n 2]	7	16	Indianapolis FedEx shooting: A shooting occurred outside a FedEx facility near Indianapolis International Airport. Nine people were reported dead, including the shooter, who committed suicide. The shooter has been identified as 19-year old Brandon Scott Hole, a former employee of the FedEx facility.
September 23	Collierville	Tennessee	2[n 2]	14	16	Collierville Kroger shooting: A worker at a third-party venue inside the store opened fire in a Kroger, killing one and injuring 14, before taking his own life.[194]
March 14	Chicago (2)	Illinois	2	13	15	Two people were killed and 13 injured at an early morning party in South Side.[638]
December 12	Baytown	Texas	1	14	15	One person was killed and fourteen others wounded in a drive-by shooting at a memorial vigil in Baytown for another shooting victim.[46]
October 10	Saint Paul (4)	Minnesota	1	14	15	One person was killed and 14 injured in a shootout at a bar.[156]
May 22	North Charleston	South Carolina	1	14	15	A teenager was killed and fourteen injured after a shooting at an unauthorized concert.[498]
October 31	Joliet	Illinois	2	12	14	Two people were killed and several wounded after two men opened fire on a Halloween party.[114]
May 22	Fairfield Township	New Jersey	2	12	14	Two people were killed and twelve others injured at a large house party in a targeted attack.[499][500][501]
June 12	Austin (1)	Texas	1	13	14	At least 14 people were shot in Downtown Austin in the early morning hours, leaving one dead. A suspect has been arrested while police are still looking for another.[448]
June 17	Glendale, Peoria, Surprise	Arizona	1	12	13	One person was killed and twelve others injured in eight drive-by shootings in the West Valley area. A male suspect was taken into custody. Of the injuries, three were wounded by gunfire, while nine others sustained indirect injuries, such as shrapnel from broken glass due to a car crash.[434][435]
March 22	Boulder	Colorado	10	2[n 2]	12	2021 Boulder shooting: Ten people were killed including a Boulder police officer, in a shooting at a grocery store. The shooter was shot in the leg by responding police.[625]

 

[2aguy]

Where are the fuck are you getting your facts? Only 6 shooters in 2021 in the US? Guess again. Below is just a partial list. Just took only mass shootings with over 10 people (dead or insured). For the full list, go here

2021 date	City	State	Dead	Injured	Total	Description
May 30	Hialeah	Florida	3	20	23	2021 Hialeah shooting: Three shooters stepped out of a white SUV, using assault rifles and handguns, and opened fire on a billiards club. Some of the gunmen are still at large.[479]
April 15	Indianapolis (5)	Indiana	9[n 2]	7	16	Indianapolis FedEx shooting: A shooting occurred outside a FedEx facility near Indianapolis International Airport. Nine people were reported dead, including the shooter, who committed suicide. The shooter has been identified as 19-year old Brandon Scott Hole, a former employee of the FedEx facility.
September 23	Collierville	Tennessee	2[n 2]	14	16	Collierville Kroger shooting: A worker at a third-party venue inside the store opened fire in a Kroger, killing one and injuring 14, before taking his own life.[194]
March 14	Chicago (2)	Illinois	2	13	15	Two people were killed and 13 injured at an early morning party in South Side.[638]
December 12	Baytown	Texas	1	14	15	One person was killed and fourteen others wounded in a drive-by shooting at a memorial vigil in Baytown for another shooting victim.[46]
October 10	Saint Paul (4)	Minnesota	1	14	15	One person was killed and 14 injured in a shootout at a bar.[156]
May 22	North Charleston	South Carolina	1	14	15	A teenager was killed and fourteen injured after a shooting at an unauthorized concert.[498]
October 31	Joliet	Illinois	2	12	14	Two people were killed and several wounded after two men opened fire on a Halloween party.[114]
May 22	Fairfield Township	New Jersey	2	12	14	Two people were killed and twelve others injured at a large house party in a targeted attack.[499][500][501]
June 12	Austin (1)	Texas	1	13	14	At least 14 people were shot in Downtown Austin in the early morning hours, leaving one dead. A suspect has been arrested while police are still looking for another.[448]
June 17	Glendale, Peoria, Surprise	Arizona	1	12	13	One person was killed and twelve others injured in eight drive-by shootings in the West Valley area. A male suspect was taken into custody. Of the injuries, three were wounded by gunfire, while nine others sustained indirect injuries, such as shrapnel from broken glass due to a car crash.[434][435]
March 22	Boulder	Colorado	10	2[n 2]	12	2021 Boulder shooting: Ten people were killed including a Boulder police officer, in a shooting at a grocery store. The shooter was shot in the leg by responding police.[625]

That is a list of gang shootings which are not the same as mass public shootings....criminal gangs shooting at each other in democrat party controlled cities.....tiny areas of those cities.....are completely different from a lone gunman, entering a public space to murder innocent people.......

Two different crimes, two different solutions.....

You guys have to mix up the two because you get the most traction out of mass public shootings..since normal people don't have much to fear when it comes to gangs...as long as you stay out of the tiny areas in their neighborhoods where they are shooting at each other...and as long as you aren't a gang member yourself, married to one, a baby momma with one...

Actual mass public shooting events in 2021?

6, according to the FBI definition of a mass public shooting......

Here....from the Mother Jones, Mass Public Shooting Data Base.........Mother Jones is a left wing, rabidly anti-gun, news org. They use the actual definition of a mass public shooting......

US mass shootings, 1982–2022: Data from Mother Jones’ investigation

Dating back to at least 2005, the FBI and leading criminologists essentially defined a mass shooting as a single attack in a public place in which four or more victims were killed. We adopted that baseline for fatalities when we gathered data in 2012 on three decades worth of cases.
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• Here is a description of the criteria we use:
  
  
  • The perpetrator took the lives of at least four people. A 2008 FBI report identifies an individual as a mass murderer—versus a spree killer or a serial killer—if he kills four or more people in a single incident (not including himself), typically in a single location. (*In 2013, the US government’s fatality baseline was revised down to three; our database reflects this change beginning from Jan. 2013, as detailed above.)
  • The killings were carried out by a lone shooter. (Except in the case of the Columbine massacre and the Westside Middle School killings, which involved two shooters.)
  • The shootings occurred in a public place. (Except in the case of a party on private property in Crandon, Wisconsin, and another in Seattle, where crowds of strangers had gathered, essentially constituting a public crowd.)
  • Crimes primarily related to gang activity or armed robbery are not included, nor are mass killings that took place in private homes (often stemming from domestic violence).
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  • Perpetrators who died or were wounded during the attack are not included in the victim tallies.
  • We included a handful of cases also known as “spree killings“—cases in which the killings occurred in more than one location, but still over a short period of time, that otherwise fit the above criteria.
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Our research focused on indiscriminate rampages in public places resulting in four or more victims killed by the attacker. We exclude shootings stemming from more conventionally motivated crimes such as armed robbery or gang violence.

(Or in which the perpetrators have not been identified.) Other news outlets and researchers have since published larger tallies that include a wide range of gun crimes in which four or more people have been either wounded or killed. While those larger datasets of multiple-victim shootings are useful for studying the broader problem of gun violence, our investigation provides an in-depth look at a distinct phenomenon—from the firearms used and mental health factors to the growing copycat problem. Tracking mass shootings is complex; we believe ours is the most useful approach for studying this specific phenomenon.



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The actual number of mass shootings from Mother Jones......

Here you go...the number of mass public shootings according to Mother Jones...rabid, anti gun, left wing news source.....not the NRA...

The list below comes from the old definition of 4 killed to make a shooting a mass shooting...if you now go to the link there are more than listed below...but that is because Mother Jones changed the list from the time I first posted it...and changed to obama's new standard of only 3 dead to make a mass shooting...



US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

2021...6
2020....2

2019....10

2018... 12

2017: 11 ( 5 according to the old standard)

2016....6

2015....4 ( obama's new standard....7)

2014....2 (4)

2013....5

2012....7

2011....3

2010....1

2009....4

2008....3

2007....4

2006....3

2005...2

2004....1

2003...1

2002 not listed so more than likely 0

2001....1

2000....1

1999....5

1998...3

1997....2

1996....1

1995...1

1994...1

1993...4

1992...2

1991...3

1990...1

1989...2

1988....1

1987...1

1986...1

1985... not listed so probably 0

1984...2

1983...not listed so probably 0

1982...1
US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation

US Mass Shootings, 1982-2015: Data From Mother Jones' Investigation




330 million Americans......how many committed mass public shootings in 2021....

6

How many did they murder....

43

Deer kill 200 people a year.....

Lawn mowers between 90-100 people a year....

Ladders 300 people a year....

bathtubs 350 people a year...

Cars killed over 39,000 people in 2019...

So....6 people in a country of over 330 million committed mass public shootings....and for this, you think we should ban 600 million guns...?

 

[2aguy]

Where are the fuck are you getting your facts? Only 6 shooters in 2021 in the US? Guess again. Below is just a partial list. Just took only mass shootings with over 10 people (dead or insured). For the full list, go here

2021 date	City	State	Dead	Injured	Total	Description
May 30	Hialeah	Florida	3	20	23	2021 Hialeah shooting: Three shooters stepped out of a white SUV, using assault rifles and handguns, and opened fire on a billiards club. Some of the gunmen are still at large.[479]
April 15	Indianapolis (5)	Indiana	9[n 2]	7	16	Indianapolis FedEx shooting: A shooting occurred outside a FedEx facility near Indianapolis International Airport. Nine people were reported dead, including the shooter, who committed suicide. The shooter has been identified as 19-year old Brandon Scott Hole, a former employee of the FedEx facility.
September 23	Collierville	Tennessee	2[n 2]	14	16	Collierville Kroger shooting: A worker at a third-party venue inside the store opened fire in a Kroger, killing one and injuring 14, before taking his own life.[194]
March 14	Chicago (2)	Illinois	2	13	15	Two people were killed and 13 injured at an early morning party in South Side.[638]
December 12	Baytown	Texas	1	14	15	One person was killed and fourteen others wounded in a drive-by shooting at a memorial vigil in Baytown for another shooting victim.[46]
October 10	Saint Paul (4)	Minnesota	1	14	15	One person was killed and 14 injured in a shootout at a bar.[156]
May 22	North Charleston	South Carolina	1	14	15	A teenager was killed and fourteen injured after a shooting at an unauthorized concert.[498]
October 31	Joliet	Illinois	2	12	14	Two people were killed and several wounded after two men opened fire on a Halloween party.[114]
May 22	Fairfield Township	New Jersey	2	12	14	Two people were killed and twelve others injured at a large house party in a targeted attack.[499][500][501]
June 12	Austin (1)	Texas	1	13	14	At least 14 people were shot in Downtown Austin in the early morning hours, leaving one dead. A suspect has been arrested while police are still looking for another.[448]
June 17	Glendale, Peoria, Surprise	Arizona	1	12	13	One person was killed and twelve others injured in eight drive-by shootings in the West Valley area. A male suspect was taken into custody. Of the injuries, three were wounded by gunfire, while nine others sustained indirect injuries, such as shrapnel from broken glass due to a car crash.[434][435]
March 22	Boulder	Colorado	10	2[n 2]	12	2021 Boulder shooting: Ten people were killed including a Boulder police officer, in a shooting at a grocery store. The shooter was shot in the leg by responding police.[625]

If you use that criteria for shootings...then Australia and Britain have had more shootings than you want to admit they have had.........that is why when I brought up the mass public shootings in Britain, I included Cumbria and Plymouth, but not the Moss Side gang shooting at the pub......

That is also why I said Australia almost had about a dozen mass public shootings, but because the killers, with guns, in public places.....did not kill 3 or more people ...they don't count...but they were public shootings...in a country you asshats say stopped them with their gun ban....

Australia....post ban....

And, before you go and read these.......which Australian gun control law, after the ban, kept these public shootings from happening? Which Australian gun control law kept these individuals, with guns, from entering a school, mall, theater, or church?

Please...we will wait.......and wait......and wait, while you refuse to answer that question...

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/man-and-woman-barricaded-in-house-fire-at-police-in-launceston-siege/news-story/ed86967684bfc2159b1c25b934c0ddb9
A siege in the Tasmanian city of Launceston has ended with police arresting a 24-year-old man and a woman, 40, after 33 shots were fired at police.
Police had brought in negotiators, a heavily armoured Bearcat truck and evacuated residents from the street during the 18 hour stand-off which began on Friday afternoon.

Timeline of major crimes in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

• 16 January 1998 to 15 June 2009 – Melbourne gangland killings – A series of 35 murders of crime figures and their associates that began with the slaying of Alphonse Gangitano in his home, most likely by Jason Moran, the latest victim being Des Moran who was murdered in Ascot Vale on 15 June 2009.
• 16 August 1998 – Victorian police officers Gary Silk and Rodney Miller were shot dead in an ambush by Bendali Debs and Jason Joseph Roberts in the Moorabbin Police murders.
• 3 August 1999 – La Trobe University shooting – Jonathan Brett Horrocks walked into the cafeteria in La Trobe university in Melbourne Victoria armed with a 38 caliber revolver handgun and opened fire killing Leon Capraro the boss and manager off the cafeteria and wounding a woman who was a student at the university.
• 13 March 2000 – Millewa State Forest Murders – Barbara and Stephen Brooks and Stacie Willoughby were found dead, all three having been shot execution style and left in the forest.[60][61]
• 26 May 2002 – A Vietnamese man walked into a Vietnamese wedding reception in Cabramatta Sydney, New South Wales armed with a handgun and opened fire wounding seven people.
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  • 14 October 2002 – Dr. Margret Tobin, the South Australian head of Mental Health Services, was shot dead by Jean Eric Gassy as she walked out of a lift in her office building.
  • 21 October 2002 – Monash University shooting – Huan Xiang opened fire in a tutorial room, killing two and injuring five.
  • 25 October 2003 – Greenacre double murder – A man and a woman are shot dead in a house in the suburb of Greenacre, Sydney which was the result of a feud between two Middle Eastern crime families, 24-year-old Ziad Abdulrazak was shot 10 times in the chest and head and 22-year-old Mervat Hamka was shot twice in the neck while she slept in her bedroom, up to 100 shots were fired into the house from four men who were later arrested and convicted of the murders.
  • 26 July 2004 – Security guard Karen Brown shot dead armed robber William Aquilina in a Sydney carpark after he violently bashed her and stole the hotel's takings. Brown was charged with murder but acquitted on the grounds of self-defence.[66][67]
• 18 June 2007 – Melbourne CBD shooting – Christopher Wayne Hudson opened fire on three people, killing one and seriously wounding two others who intervened when Hudson was assaulting his girlfriend at a busy Melbourne intersection during the morning peak. He gave himself up to police in Wallan, Victoria on 20 June.[71]
• 10 April 2010 – Rajesh Osborne shot and killed his three children, 12 year-old Asia, 10-year-old Jarius and 7-year-old Grace before killing himself in Roxburgh, Victoria.[citation needed]
• 28 April 2011 – 2011 Hectorville siege – Donato Anthony Corbo shot dead Kobus and Annetjie Snyman and their son-in-law Luc Mombers and seriously wounded Mr Mombers' 14-year-old son Marcel and a police officer at Hectorville, South Australia before being arrested after an eight-hour stand off.
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• 29 January 2012 – Giovanni Focarelli, son of Comancheros gang member Vincenzo Focarelli, was shot dead whilst Vincenzo survived the fourth attempt on his life.[79]
• 28 April 2012 – A man opened fire in a busy shopping mall in Robina on the Gold Coast shooting Bandidos bikie Jacques Teamo. A woman who was an innocent bystander was also injured from a shotgun blast to the leg. Neither of the victims died, but the incident highlighted the recent increase in gun crime across major Australian cities including Sydney, Brisbane and Adelaide.[citation needed]
• 23 May 2012 – Christopher 'Badness' Binse, a career criminal well known to police, was arrested after a 44-hour siege at an East Keilor home in Melbourne's north west. During the siege, Binse fired several shots at police and refused to co-operate with negotiators; eventually tear gas had to be used to force him out of the house, at which point he refused to put down his weapon and was then sprayed with a volley of non-lethal bullets.[citation needed]
• 15 December 2012 – Aaron Carlino murdered drug dealer Stephen Cookson in his East Perth home by shooting him twice in the head and then he cut up and dismembered his body. He buried his arms legs and torso in the backyard of his house and he wrapped his head in a plastic bag and dumped it on Rottnest Island. The head of Cookson was later found washed up on Rottnest Island by an 11-year-old girl. Carlino was convicted of the murder and was sentenced to life in prison.[citation needed]
• 8 March 2013 – Queen Street mall siege – Lee Matthew Hiller entered the shopping mall on Queen Street Brisbane Queensland armed with a revolver and threatened shoppers and staff with the revolver, causing a 90-minute siege which ended when Hiller was shot and wounded in the arm by a police officer from the elite Specialist Emergency Response Team. Hiller was then later taken to hospital and was treated for his injury; he pleaded gulity to 20 charges and was sentenced to four-and-a-half years in jail with a non-parole period of two years and three months.[citation needed]
• 29 July 2013 – Two bikie gang associates, Vasko Boskovski and Bassil Hijazi were shot dead in two separate shooting incidents minutes apart in South West Sydney. The previous week Bassil Hijazi had survived a previous attempt against his life after he was shot inside his car.[citation needed]
• 9 September 2014 – Lockhart massacre – Geoff Hunt shot and killed his wife, Kim, his 10-year-old son Fletcher, and his daughters Mia, eight and Phoebe, six before killing himself on a farm in Lockhart in the Riverina district near Wagga Wagga New South Wales. The body of Geoff Hunt and a firearm are later found in a dam on the farm by police divers and a suicide note written by Geoff Hunt is also found inside the house on the farm.[citation needed]
• 22 October 2014 – Wedderburn shootings – Ian Jamieson shot dead Peter Lockhart, Peter's wife Mary and Mary's son Greg Holmes on two farm properties in Wedderburn, Victoria over a property dispute. Jamieson surrendered to police after a three-and-a-half hour siege.[citation needed]
• 7 November 2014 – Jordy Brook carjacked a Channel 7 news cameraman at gun point during a crime spree on the Sunshine Coast, Queensland. He was later captured and arrested by police after luring police on a high speed chase and crashing the car.[citation needed]
• 12 November 2014 – Jamie Edwards and Joelene Joyce a married couple who were drug dealers are found shot dead in a car on a highway in the town of Moama, New South Wales.[86]
• 15 December 2014 – 2014 Sydney hostage crisis – Seventeen people were taken hostage in a cafe in Martin Place, Sydney by Man Haron Monis. The hostage crisis was resolved in the early hours of 16 December, sixteen hours after it commenced, when armed police stormed the premises. Monis and two hostages were killed in the course of the crisis.[87]
• 27 June 2015 – Hermidale triple murder – the bodies of three people, two men and a woman are found shot dead on a property in a rural farming community in the town of Hermidale west of Nyngan, the bodies of 28-year-old Jacob Cumberland his father 59-year-old Stephen Cumberland and a 36-year-old woman were found with gun shot wounds, the body of Jacob Cumberland was found on the drive way of the property, the body of the 36-year-old woman was found in the backyard of the property and the body of Stephen Cumberland was found in a burnt out caravan on the property. 61-year-old Allan O'Connor is later arrested and charged with the murders.
• 10 September 2015 – A 49-year-old woman is shot dead in a Mc Donald's restaurant in Gold Coast by her 57-year-old ex partner, who then turned the gun on himself afterwards and shot himself dead.
• 2 October 2015 - 2015 Parramatta shooting On 2 October 2015, Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, a 15-year-old boy, shot and killed Curtis Cheng, an unarmed police civilian finance worker, outside the New South Wales Police Force headquarters in Parramatta, Australia. Jabar was subsequently shot and killed by special constables who were protecting the police station.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Hopefully the Cons will look outward to countries in which gun control measures work?

You cannot demonstrate that the gun control laws of -any- country "work".

 

[Blackrook]

When does "control" of something: guns, alcohol, drugs, EVER work?

 

[Dragonlady]

Canada starts to catch on to the American way of guns and the resulting slaughter, but Canada will never catch up.

And now, perhaps the Conservative party will be shamed by this incident and start to cooperate with the Liberals' agenda to nip it in the bud.

Hopefully the Cons will look outward to countries in which gun control measures work?

The police were furious when the Conservatives scrapped the Long Gun Registry. They knew before they went on a call what guns might be encountered. Lord knows WE overpaid to create the damn thing, and then they just scrapped it because of donations from the NRA.

 

[2aguy]

The police were furious when the Conservatives scrapped the Long Gun Registry. They knew before they went on a call what guns might be encountered. Lord knows WE overpaid to create the damn thing, and then they just scrapped it because of donations from the NRA.

The long gun registry was a fucking failure.

 

[2aguy]

The police were furious when the Conservatives scrapped the Long Gun Registry. They knew before they went on a call what guns might be encountered. Lord knows WE overpaid to create the damn thing, and then they just scrapped it because of donations from the NRA.

You don't know what you are talking about....the long gun registry was a complete failure......in all ways.....and the police said so...

Canada Tried Registering Long Guns -- And Gave Up

The law passed and starting in 1998 Canadians were required to have a license to own firearms and register their weapons with the government. According to Canadian researcher (and gun enthusiast) Gary Mauser, the Canada Firearms Center quickly rose to 600 employees and the cost of the effort climbed past $600 million. In 2002 Canada’s auditor general released a report saying initial cost estimates of $2 million (Canadian) had increased to $1 billion as the government tried to register the estimated 15 million guns owned by Canada’s 34 million residents.

The registry was plagued with complications like duplicate serial numbers and millions of incomplete records, Mauser reports. One person managed to register a soldering gun, demonstrating the lack of precise standards. And overshadowing the effort was the suspicion of misplaced effort: Pistols were used in 66% of gun homicides in 2011, yet they represent about 6% of the guns in Canada. Legal long guns were used in 11% of killings that year, according to Statistics Canada, while illegal weapons like sawed-off shotguns and machine guns, which by definition cannot be registered, were used in another 12%.

So the government was spending the bulk of its money — about $17 million of the Firearms Center’s $82 million annual budget — trying to register long guns when the statistics showed they weren’t the problem.

There was also the question of how registering guns was supposed to reduce crime and suicide in the first place. From 1997 to 2005, only 13% of the guns used in homicides were registered.

Police studies in Canada estimated that 2-16% of guns used in crimes were stolen from legal owners and thus potentially in the registry. The bulk of the guns, Canadian officials concluded, were unregistered weapons imported illegally from the U.S. by criminal gangs.

Finally in 2011, conservatives led by Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper voted to abolish the long-gun registry and destroy all its records. Liberals argued the law had contributed to the decline in gun homicides since it was passed.

But Mauser notes that gun homicides have actually been rising in recent years, from 151 in 1999 to 173 in 2009, as violent criminal gangs use guns in their drug turf wars and other disputes. As in the U.S., most gun homicides in Canada are committed by young males, many of them with criminal records. In the majority of homicides involving young males, the victim and the killer are know each other.

 

[Donald H]

The police were furious when the Conservatives scrapped the Long Gun Registry. They knew before they went on a call what guns might be encountered. Lord knows WE overpaid to create the damn thing, and then they just scrapped it because of donations from the NRA.

Did the NRA really shovel dirty money into Canada.
Or is there an NRA Canadian chapter. I don't think there is.

 

[2aguy]

Did the NRA really shovel dirty money into Canada.
Or is there an NRA Canadian chapter. I don't think there is.

Wow....are your drinking? Defending the NRA is not really your style....

 

[Dragonlady]

Did the NRA really shovel dirty money into Canada.
Or is there an NRA Canadian chapter. I don't think there is.

There is a Canadian Chapter. They're most active in (where else?) Alberta!

 

[Donald H]

There is a Canadian Chapter. They're most active in (where else?) Alberta!

Thanks!
Yes, all Canadians know what you mean when you mention 'Alberta'.

 

[Dragonlady]

Thanks!
Yes, all Canadians know what you mean when you mention 'Alberta'.

I read an article recently that said that all jurisdictions with a petroleum/carbon fuel based economy are hard right conservative, and often misogynistic, to boot. Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia, Texas and Alberta all fit the bill.

 

[Donald H]

I read an article recently that said that all jurisdictions with a petroleum/carbon fuel based economy are hard right conservative, and often misogynistic, to boot. Saudi Arabia, Iran, Russia, Texas and Alberta all fit the bill.

There's a good reason why we should believe that. This is why the science on climate change is so severely challenged and in danger of being largely ignored.

All of the above will feel the pain that comes with climate change but that pain won't be soon enough to make changes to reverse the situation.

At least that's what science is telling us!

I completely accept climate science because I've never heard a rational challenge to it.

Fwiw, I have to suggest that organized religion is mostly responsible for the denial. Their faith stands as the basis for all their denial arguments.