This tenet of fascism is a value shared by modern leftists

So it's not nationalism when you agree with it but is nationalism when you don't like it?

So true. I think it's fair to say that kneeling for the national anthem is a form of anti-American nationalism. Essentially, they're saying that they oppose the U.S.

Leftist utopias such as China, Cuba, North Korea, etc., don't have such issues. EVERYONE stands for the anthem in those places. LOL!
You stand for the anthem or you will be shot.
 
Here's another example to support my opening post. Remember AOC's fake photo opportunity at a virtually empty parking lot at migrant facility? You see, AOC feigned concern over the little migrant children because IT SERVED THE INTERESTS OF THE PARTY. What's happening now is TEN times worse than anything that happened under Trump yet, AOC is silent. Why? Because feigning sadness about little migrant children would be contrary to the interests of the party.

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George Orwell described every totalitarian government, as well as much of the modern, Democratic Party.

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”

― George Orwell, 1984
 
...If fascism is "right-wing", why then were FDR and many other western leftists such big fans of Mussolini and fascism?
Links? (to credible sources, not right-wing op-eds from loser trying to re-brand themselves )

Do your own research shit-for-brains, it's common knowledge, dumbass.
Translation: "I cannot provide you with links to credible sources that ascertain that FDR and other high-profile Leftists were 'big fans of Mussolini and fascism.' "

"Common knowledge?" - hardly - and your assertion here was worthy of a 4th-grade recess-yard debater, Princess.

Lying weasel.
FDR Praised Mussolini And Loved Fascism



So much so, that FDR took Mussolini's entire Fascist system and imposed it on America as the New Deal.


FDR co-opted Mussolini's economic program and called it the New Deal.



1. "Perhaps the most radical aspect of the New Deal was the National Industrial Recovery Act, passed in June 1933, which created a massive new bureaucracy called the National Recovery Administration. Under the NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels.

Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement, while the NRA was financed by new taxes on the very industries it controlled. Some economists have estimated that the NRA boosted the cost of doing business by an average of 40 percent — not something a depressed economy needed for recovery."


Great Myths of the Great Depression, Lawrence W Reed


2. The man Roosevelt picked to direct the NRA effort was General Hugh Johnson, a profane, red-faced bully and professed admirer of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini. ...There were ultimately more than 500 NRA codes, “ranging from the production of lightning rods to the manufacture of corsets and brassieres, covering more than 2 million employers and 22 million workers.”
“FDR’s Disputed Legacy,” Time, February 1, 1982, p. 30.

There were codes for the production of hair tonic, dog leashes, and even musical comedies. A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents.




3. Roosevelt's economic guru, Rex Tugwell was opposed to any private business not controlled by the government. General Hugh Johnson was working with Tugwell on a bill to create the NRA, and gave Francis Perkins, U.S. Secretary of Laborfrom 1933 to 1945, the longest serving in that position, and thefirst womanappointed to theU.S. Cabinet, the book by Rafaello Viglione, "The Corporate State," in which the neat Italian system of dictatorship for the benefit of the people was glowingly described."
Francis Perkins, "The Roosevelt I Knew."

The NRA was copied from Mussolini's corporative system.

a. Perkins questioned whether Johnson 'really understood the democratic process..." New Dealers had no problem with the fascist nature of their plans.

b. " Fascism did not acquire an evil name in Washington
until Hitler became a menace to·the Soviet Union."

Manly, "The Twenty Year Revolution," p. 48


4. There were codes for the production of hair tonic, dog leashes, and even musical comedies. A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents.
Oh, dear God, another hyper-right-wing lunatic chimes-in with another op-ed piece bound between two book covers... :laugh:

Still fighting the anti-NRA Lost Cause nearly 90 years after its inception...

Devising and implementing an economic recovery tactic that bore some similarities to those being tried in Europe hardly qualifies FDR as a 'fascist'...

I'm sure that some fruit-loop or another out there also believes he was a Commie... but that don't make it so...

You right-wing nut-jobs need to get some new material.


"FDR policies doubled the length of the Great Depression"



Here is an interesting visual: imagine a triple line of the unemployed, three across, consisting of those unemployed under Hoover, in 1931. The line would have gone from Los Angeles, across the country, to the border of Maine.

What effect did Roosevelt have on the line?

Well, eight years later, in 1939, the length of the line would have gone further, from the Maine border, south to Boston, then on to New York City, then to Philadelphia, on to Washington, D.C.- and finally, into Virginia.
Folsom, "New Deal or Raw Deal"


Think Folsom was wrong?

Check it out at the US Bureau of the Census, 'Historical Statistics of the United States: Colonial Times to 1970, I-126 and Unemployment Statistics during the Great Depression
 
...Watch this, dope: A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925. Socialists, just like the Democrat Party....and you.
Oh, you cited a historical statement, alright...

But you failed to comprehend that it was proven blatantly false by history, as the true nature of German "National Socialism" manifested itself as "socialist in name only" and in actuality the vicious tool of racial supremacists and industrial magnates and the wealthy, designed to bamboozle and hoodwink the burghers and trick them into fighting for The Cause while throwing them a few economic table-scraps from time to time. Typical right-wing bull$hit artists. Bastards. Villainous scum.


Wrong again.

'
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian







1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.



2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National
Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?



3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.



4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.




You're pretty much of a dunce, huh?
 
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...

- Benito Mussolini

We see countless examples of the party and/or the government screwing poor and middle-class Americans and leftists are either mute about it or deflect, blame Trump, etc. I often tell leftists that their love, loyalty, and devotion are to the party and NOT to average Americans. Very seldom, if ever, do they respond and disagree with that statement.

For the modern leftist, NOTHING matters more than the party/state, which is one-in-the-same under the Democratic (fascist) oligarchy.

Some of you will question as to why the left does this or that. It's simple. Anything that advances the party, they support, and I mean ANYTHING. One can see the staggering amount of crime, lies, and corruption taking place in the federal government but you won't see a leftist complain or even acknowledge any of it because their love, loyalty, and devotion are to serving the party and, in particular, the party elites.

So, yes, leftists agree with Mussolini in that the left only cares about individuals and individual "rights" so long as their interests coincide with the interests of the party/state.

For instance, acknowledging and discussing the 50+ years of catastrophic black murder rates in Democratic ghettos is strictly verboten because the discussion of mountains of dead, black, bodies is contrary to the interests of the party/state. Therefore, murders of poor blacks continue unabated because their interests in life do not outweigh the party's/state's interests of retaining and increasing their power and wealth.

There are countless more examples, but you get the point. For the leftist, the party/state is everything and nothing else matters.

Clearly you don't understand the meaning of fascism. Your problem is you hate democracy and peddled the crazy idea the election was stolen. Trump was the closest thing to fascism ever elected. He sacked anyone who opposed his views and sued anyone who criticised him.

Then he stood by with his kids and cronies cheering those nut jobs storming the capitol and you say democrats are fascist?
Don't make me vomit you ignoramus.
 
...Watch this, dope: A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925. Socialists, just like the Democrat Party....and you.
Oh, you cited a historical statement, alright...

But you failed to comprehend that it was proven blatantly false by history, as the true nature of German "National Socialism" manifested itself as "socialist in name only" and in actuality the vicious tool of racial supremacists and industrial magnates and the wealthy, designed to bamboozle and hoodwink the burghers and trick them into fighting for The Cause while throwing them a few economic table-scraps from time to time. Typical right-wing bull$hit artists. Bastards. Villainous scum.


Wrong again.

'
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian





1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.



2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National
Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?

3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.

4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.




You're pretty much of a dunce, huh?

Hitler broke away from the Socialists in 1926.. In 1933 he use the Enabling Act to purge Socialists, Communists, Democrats and Jews from government. Later he began arresting them and putting them in Dachau or killing them.

Betweem1918 and 1932 the biggest part in Germany was the German Democratic Socialist party.
 
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...

- Benito Mussolini

We see countless examples of the party and/or the government screwing poor and middle-class Americans and leftists are either mute about it or deflect, blame Trump, etc. I often tell leftists that their love, loyalty, and devotion are to the party and NOT to average Americans. Very seldom, if ever, do they respond and disagree with that statement.

For the modern leftist, NOTHING matters more than the party/state, which is one-in-the-same under the Democratic (fascist) oligarchy.

Some of you will question as to why the left does this or that. It's simple. Anything that advances the party, they support, and I mean ANYTHING. One can see the staggering amount of crime, lies, and corruption taking place in the federal government but you won't see a leftist complain or even acknowledge any of it because their love, loyalty, and devotion are to serving the party and, in particular, the party elites.

So, yes, leftists agree with Mussolini in that the left only cares about individuals and individual "rights" so long as their interests coincide with the interests of the party/state.

For instance, acknowledging and discussing the 50+ years of catastrophic black murder rates in Democratic ghettos is strictly verboten because the discussion of mountains of dead, black, bodies is contrary to the interests of the party/state. Therefore, murders of poor blacks continue unabated because their interests in life do not outweigh the party's/state's interests of retaining and increasing their power and wealth.

There are countless more examples, but you get the point. For the leftist, the party/state is everything and nothing else matters.

Clearly you don't understand the meaning of fascism. Your problem is you hate democracy and peddled the crazy idea the election was stolen. Trump was the closest thing to fascism ever elected. He sacked anyone who opposed his views and sued anyone who criticised him.

Then he stood by with his kids and cronies cheering those nut jobs storming the capitol and you say democrats are fascist?
Don't make me vomit you ignoramus.


Did Hitler and Mussolini permit free-market capitalism in their respective countries?
 
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...

- Benito Mussolini
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few -- Mr. Spock

Star Trek always leaned left
 
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...

- Benito Mussolini

We see countless examples of the party and/or the government screwing poor and middle-class Americans and leftists are either mute about it or deflect, blame Trump, etc. I often tell leftists that their love, loyalty, and devotion are to the party and NOT to average Americans. Very seldom, if ever, do they respond and disagree with that statement.

For the modern leftist, NOTHING matters more than the party/state, which is one-in-the-same under the Democratic (fascist) oligarchy.

Some of you will question as to why the left does this or that. It's simple. Anything that advances the party, they support, and I mean ANYTHING. One can see the staggering amount of crime, lies, and corruption taking place in the federal government but you won't see a leftist complain or even acknowledge any of it because their love, loyalty, and devotion are to serving the party and, in particular, the party elites.

So, yes, leftists agree with Mussolini in that the left only cares about individuals and individual "rights" so long as their interests coincide with the interests of the party/state.

For instance, acknowledging and discussing the 50+ years of catastrophic black murder rates in Democratic ghettos is strictly verboten because the discussion of mountains of dead, black, bodies is contrary to the interests of the party/state. Therefore, murders of poor blacks continue unabated because their interests in life do not outweigh the party's/state's interests of retaining and increasing their power and wealth.

There are countless more examples, but you get the point. For the leftist, the party/state is everything and nothing else matters.

Clearly you don't understand the meaning of fascism. Your problem is you hate democracy and peddled the crazy idea the election was stolen. Trump was the closest thing to fascism ever elected. He sacked anyone who opposed his views and sued anyone who criticised him.

Then he stood by with his kids and cronies cheering those nut jobs storming the capitol and you say democrats are fascist?
Don't make me vomit you ignoramus.
Clearly you don't understand the meaning of fascism.

Here's a news flash for you: employers are allowed to fire their employees. Trump was far to tolerant of disloyalty, if anything.
 
...Watch this, dope: A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925. Socialists, just like the Democrat Party....and you.
Oh, you cited a historical statement, alright...

But you failed to comprehend that it was proven blatantly false by history, as the true nature of German "National Socialism" manifested itself as "socialist in name only" and in actuality the vicious tool of racial supremacists and industrial magnates and the wealthy, designed to bamboozle and hoodwink the burghers and trick them into fighting for The Cause while throwing them a few economic table-scraps from time to time. Typical right-wing bull$hit artists. Bastards. Villainous scum.


Wrong again.

'
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian





1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.



2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?

3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.

4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.




You're pretty much of a dunce, huh?

Hitler broke away from the Socialists in 1926.. In 1933 he use the Enabling Act to purge Socialists, Communists, Democrats and Jews from government. Later he began arresting them and putting them in Dachau or killing them.

Betweem1918 and 1932 the biggest part in Germany was the German Democratic Socialist party.
No he didn't, turd. Hitler purged everyone who wasn't a NAZI. When he gained power, Stalin started arresting communists and executing them or sent them to the gulag.

Left arguments about Hitler being "right wing" have all been debunked 10,000 times.
 
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...

- Benito Mussolini

We see countless examples of the party and/or the government screwing poor and middle-class Americans and leftists are either mute about it or deflect, blame Trump, etc. I often tell leftists that their love, loyalty, and devotion are to the party and NOT to average Americans. Very seldom, if ever, do they respond and disagree with that statement.

For the modern leftist, NOTHING matters more than the party/state, which is one-in-the-same under the Democratic (fascist) oligarchy.

Some of you will question as to why the left does this or that. It's simple. Anything that advances the party, they support, and I mean ANYTHING. One can see the staggering amount of crime, lies, and corruption taking place in the federal government but you won't see a leftist complain or even acknowledge any of it because their love, loyalty, and devotion are to serving the party and, in particular, the party elites.

So, yes, leftists agree with Mussolini in that the left only cares about individuals and individual "rights" so long as their interests coincide with the interests of the party/state.

For instance, acknowledging and discussing the 50+ years of catastrophic black murder rates in Democratic ghettos is strictly verboten because the discussion of mountains of dead, black, bodies is contrary to the interests of the party/state. Therefore, murders of poor blacks continue unabated because their interests in life do not outweigh the party's/state's interests of retaining and increasing their power and wealth.

There are countless more examples, but you get the point. For the leftist, the party/state is everything and nothing else matters.
What a load of crap propaganda, hater dupe of the greedy idiot GOP mega Rich brainwashers. They already have everything that Bernie Sanders and AOC and Democrats want in Canada and every other modern country. Really scary dumbass. It's called fair capitalism for achange. Also known as socialism everywhere but GOP base idiot world.
 
...Watch this, dope: A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebell's....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925. Socialists, just like the Democrat Party....and you.
Oh, you cited a historical statement, alright...

But you failed to comprehend that it was proven blatantly false by history, as the true nature of German "National Socialism" manifested itself as "socialist in name only" and in actuality the vicious tool of racial supremacists and industrial magnates and the wealthy, designed to bamboozle and hoodwink the burghers and trick them into fighting for The Cause while throwing them a few economic table-scraps from time to time. Typical right-wing bull$hit artists. Bastards. Villainous scum.


Wrong again.

'
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian





1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.



2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?

3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.

4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.




You're pretty much of a dunce, huh?

Hitler broke away from the Socialists in 1926.. In 1933 he use the Enabling Act to purge Socialists, Communists, Democrats and Jews from government. Later he began arresting them and putting them in Dachau or killing them.

Betweem1918 and 1932 the biggest part in Germany was the German Democratic Socialist party.
No he didn't, turd. Hitler purged everyone who wasn't a NAZI. When he gained power, Stalin started arresting communists and executing them or sent them to the gulag.

Left arguments about Hitler being "right wing" have all been debunked 10,000 times.
Heather loved corporations and aristocrats as long as they weren't Jewish or against him. You are an idiot. The greatest generation is spinning in their graves listening to your crap.
 
Heather loved corporations and aristocrats as long as they weren't Jewish or against him. You are an idiot. The greatest generation is spinning in their graves listening to your crap.

Your ignorance and stupidity is unmatched.
 

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