This Road is for Jews Only. Yes, There is Apartheid in Israel

[pbel]

aris2chat; Phoenall; montelatici; et al,

In the 21st Century, the cultures need to rely on a wisdom that is beyond mere self-interests and personal benefit. For more than ten centuries, man has be building upon the concept and philosophy that the future of humanity rests in the mutual development and prosperity within each society of the species; working in harmony.

The Jews, muslims and Christians in Israel have different rights to those of the Palestinians because the west bank is not part of Israel. The inhabitants have the rights vested by their own government, and the laws of the Geneva conventions. So if you have a problem take it up with the P.A., UN and the Hague who control what rights the Palestinians have. While you are at it ask what is being done about the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Christians by Palestinian terrorists in gaza ?

Why should palestinians in the west bank get Israeli rights? They are palestinians not Israelis.
They get their rights from the PA, not Israel.

(COMMENT)

What I hear --- is that the Palestinians want the freedom, prosperity and cultural development that the Israelis have. And in not having it, they feel ostracized and rejected, --- crying "apartheid," as if it were somehow the Israelis fault that the Arab-Palestinian did not put forth the productive efforts that the Jewish State invested to build a nation that flourishes, while the Arab-Palestinian only knows of conflict and despair, unable to organize itself or articulate a National Policy that will create a productive mindset and instill a competitive environment for the actualization of the people --- away from war and conflict --- and moving towards the creation of wealth and commerce, employment generation, and scientific discovery; all the overall improvements and focus necessary to enhance the standard of living for its citizenry. Instead, they have become parasites feeding on the sympathetic generosity of nations that are totally dissimilar to their own.

The Palestinians must learn that they just can't get something for nothing. Today is probably the wrong day to express that, in as much as the Japanese have decided to be the next set of deep pockets that donate another bundle of money to the otherwise unproductive society that has not invested anything in their nation.

Most Respectfully,
R

As usual your one-sided propaganda gives credit to the Israelis rather than World Jewry which provided vast amounts of money to defend and develop Israel's economy...

Without that external help she would have floundered...

 

[aris2chat]

aris2chat; Phoenall; montelatici; et al,

In the 21st Century, the cultures need to rely on a wisdom that is beyond mere self-interests and personal benefit. For more than ten centuries, man has be building upon the concept and philosophy that the future of humanity rests in the mutual development and prosperity within each society of the species; working in harmony.

Why should palestinians in the west bank get Israeli rights? They are palestinians not Israelis.
They get their rights from the PA, not Israel.

(COMMENT)

What I hear --- is that the Palestinians want the freedom, prosperity and cultural development that the Israelis have. And in not having it, they feel ostracized and rejected, --- crying "apartheid," as if it were somehow the Israelis fault that the Arab-Palestinian did not put forth the productive efforts that the Jewish State invested to build a nation that flourishes, while the Arab-Palestinian only knows of conflict and despair, unable to organize itself or articulate a National Policy that will create a productive mindset and instill a competitive environment for the actualization of the people --- away from war and conflict --- and moving towards the creation of wealth and commerce, employment generation, and scientific discovery; all the overall improvements and focus necessary to enhance the standard of living for its citizenry. Instead, they have become parasites feeding on the sympathetic generosity of nations that are totally dissimilar to their own.

The Palestinians must learn that they just can't get something for nothing. Today is probably the wrong day to express that, in as much as the Japanese have decided to be the next set of deep pockets that donate another bundle of money to the otherwise unproductive society that has not invested anything in their nation.

Most Respectfully,
R

As usual your one-sided propaganda gives credit to the Israelis rather than World Jewry which provided vast amounts of money to defend and develop Israel's economy...

Without that external help she would have floundered...

It is just rational observation.
We all want the best for both sides, but Israel put the labor into creating a state. Palestinian want to slide into a ready made state and feel they have suffered in camps, but that is not the struggle of creating and see your efforts blossom.

Someday the palestinians will be ready, but most are not......yet. they skipped a vital step.

 

[toastman]

aris2chat; Phoenall; montelatici; et al,

In the 21st Century, the cultures need to rely on a wisdom that is beyond mere self-interests and personal benefit. For more than ten centuries, man has be building upon the concept and philosophy that the future of humanity rests in the mutual development and prosperity within each society of the species; working in harmony.

Why should palestinians in the west bank get Israeli rights? They are palestinians not Israelis.
They get their rights from the PA, not Israel.

(COMMENT)

What I hear --- is that the Palestinians want the freedom, prosperity and cultural development that the Israelis have. And in not having it, they feel ostracized and rejected, --- crying "apartheid," as if it were somehow the Israelis fault that the Arab-Palestinian did not put forth the productive efforts that the Jewish State invested to build a nation that flourishes, while the Arab-Palestinian only knows of conflict and despair, unable to organize itself or articulate a National Policy that will create a productive mindset and instill a competitive environment for the actualization of the people --- away from war and conflict --- and moving towards the creation of wealth and commerce, employment generation, and scientific discovery; all the overall improvements and focus necessary to enhance the standard of living for its citizenry. Instead, they have become parasites feeding on the sympathetic generosity of nations that are totally dissimilar to their own.

The Palestinians must learn that they just can't get something for nothing. Today is probably the wrong day to express that, in as much as the Japanese have decided to be the next set of deep pockets that donate another bundle of money to the otherwise unproductive society that has not invested anything in their nation.

Most Respectfully,
R

As usual your one-sided propaganda gives credit to the Israelis rather than World Jewry which provided vast amounts of money to defend and develop Israel's economy...

Without that external help she would have floundered...

Oh please Pbel, I wouldnt accuse others of posting propaganda. You and Timmore are experts in that field.

What rocco said is 100% correct. Palestinians love to blame Israel for everything, and doing so has gotten them nowwhere.
What did he say that was incorrect?

 

[pbel]

aris2chat; Phoenall; montelatici; et al,

In the 21st Century, the cultures need to rely on a wisdom that is beyond mere self-interests and personal benefit. For more than ten centuries, man has be building upon the concept and philosophy that the future of humanity rests in the mutual development and prosperity within each society of the species; working in harmony.


(COMMENT)

What I hear --- is that the Palestinians want the freedom, prosperity and cultural development that the Israelis have. And in not having it, they feel ostracized and rejected, --- crying "apartheid," as if it were somehow the Israelis fault that the Arab-Palestinian did not put forth the productive efforts that the Jewish State invested to build a nation that flourishes, while the Arab-Palestinian only knows of conflict and despair, unable to organize itself or articulate a National Policy that will create a productive mindset and instill a competitive environment for the actualization of the people --- away from war and conflict --- and moving towards the creation of wealth and commerce, employment generation, and scientific discovery; all the overall improvements and focus necessary to enhance the standard of living for its citizenry. Instead, they have become parasites feeding on the sympathetic generosity of nations that are totally dissimilar to their own.

The Palestinians must learn that they just can't get something for nothing. Today is probably the wrong day to express that, in as much as the Japanese have decided to be the next set of deep pockets that donate another bundle of money to the otherwise unproductive society that has not invested anything in their nation.

Most Respectfully,
R

As usual your one-sided propaganda gives credit to the Israelis rather than World Jewry which provided vast amounts of money to defend and develop Israel's economy...

Without that external help she would have floundered...

Oh please Pbel, I wouldnt accuse others of posting propaganda. You and Timmore are experts in that field.

What rocco said is 100% correct. Palestinians love to blame Israel for everything, and doing so has gotten them nowwhere.
What did he say that was incorrect?

What he said was that in the competition between the Palestinians and Israelis, the Israelis win and should be emulated by the Palestinians, all illogical and a croc of poo....

I wish people would see the honest reasoning for their arguments.

 

[toastman]

As usual your one-sided propaganda gives credit to the Israelis rather than World Jewry which provided vast amounts of money to defend and develop Israel's economy...

Without that external help she would have floundered...

Oh please Pbel, I wouldnt accuse others of posting propaganda. You and Timmore are experts in that field.

What rocco said is 100% correct. Palestinians love to blame Israel for everything, and doing so has gotten them nowwhere.
What did he say that was incorrect?

What he said was that in the competition between the Palestinians and Israelis, the Israelis win and should be emulated by the Palestinians, all illogical and a croc of poo....

I wish people would see the honest reasoning for their arguments.

As car as what you bolded thats not at all what he said

 

[pbel]

Oh please Pbel, I wouldnt accuse others of posting propaganda. You and Timmore are experts in that field.

What rocco said is 100% correct. Palestinians love to blame Israel for everything, and doing so has gotten them nowwhere.
What did he say that was incorrect?

What he said was that in the competition between the Palestinians and Israelis, the Israelis win and should be emulated by the Palestinians, all illogical and a croc of poo....

I wish people would see the honest reasoning for their arguments.

As car as what you bolded thats not at all what he said

Look, I like you and Rocco, but you are both so biased that you are blind to the dynamics of cause and effect.

 

[Kondor3]

"...Look, I like you and Rocco, but you are both so biased that you are blind to the dynamics of cause and effect."

Blind, or simply aware that cause-and-effect or no, there is no practical remedy for it, so Israel might as well continue to hammer-out progress on the Reconquista by slow stages until they are sufficiently secure that cause-and-effect is no longer operative in that setting?

 

[toastman]

What he said was that in the competition between the Palestinians and Israelis, the Israelis win and should be emulated by the Palestinians, all illogical and a croc of poo....

I wish people would see the honest reasoning for their arguments.

As car as what you bolded thats not at all what he said

Look, I like you and Rocco, but you are both so biased that you are blind to the dynamics of cause and effect.

Why are you again accusing me of what you are guilty of? I see things fhe way they are and I am honest, not biased

 

[TheOldSchool]

What he said was that in the competition between the Palestinians and Israelis, the Israelis win and should be emulated by the Palestinians, all illogical and a croc of poo....

I wish people would see the honest reasoning for their arguments.

As car as what you bolded thats not at all what he said

Look, I like you and Rocco, but you are both so biased that you are blind to the dynamics of cause and effect.

Toastman and Rocco! Be absolved of your doubts for these words are born from the trickery of the devil as proofed by it's unholy post # of 666!

 

[aris2chat]

As car as what you bolded thats not at all what he said

Look, I like you and Rocco, but you are both so biased that you are blind to the dynamics of cause and effect.

Toastman and Rocco! Be absolved of your doubts for these words are born from the trickery of the devil as proofed by it's unholy post # of 666!

you are aware that the unholy number of the beast is really 616?

 

[pbel]

"...Look, I like you and Rocco, but you are both so biased that you are blind to the dynamics of cause and effect."

Blind, or simply aware that cause-and-effect or no, there is no practical remedy for it, so Israel might as well continue to hammer-out progress on the Reconquista by slow stages until they are sufficiently secure that cause-and-effect is no longer operative in that setting?

Expanding Israel's borders weakens her because of a limited population, but yea sure, keep spreading your resources and keep killing.

 

[Kondor3]

"...Look, I like you and Rocco, but you are both so biased that you are blind to the dynamics of cause and effect."

Blind, or simply aware that cause-and-effect or no, there is no practical remedy for it, so Israel might as well continue to hammer-out progress on the Reconquista by slow stages until they are sufficiently secure that cause-and-effect is no longer operative in that setting?

Expanding Israel's borders weakens her because of a limited population, but yea sure, keep spreading your resources and keep killing.

My guess is, when they've completed the Reconquista (roughly defined as the 1922 Partition Map), limited population won't much matter any longer, behind defensible borders...

 

[pbel]

Blind, or simply aware that cause-and-effect or no, there is no practical remedy for it, so Israel might as well continue to hammer-out progress on the Reconquista by slow stages until they are sufficiently secure that cause-and-effect is no longer operative in that setting?

Expanding Israel's borders weakens her because of a limited population, but yea sure, keep spreading your resources and keep killing.

My guess is, when they've completed the Reconquista (roughly defined as the 1922 Partition Map), limited population won't much matter any longer, behind defensible borders...

Sure this tiny nation in a sea of Islam in the age of rocketry is the epicenter of thousands of WMD today, one spark and we will see mass destruction on both sides.

 

[Kondor3]

"...Sure this tiny nation in a sea of Islam in the age of rocketry is the epicenter of thousands of WMD today, one spark and we will see mass destruction on both sides."

Doubtful. The Arabs have had their asses kicked by Israel repeatedly, and have little stomach for it any longer; especially in connection with (on behalf of) the mad-dog Palestinians.

And now that they've seen that Israel will pretty much leave them alone, if they do the same, there's even less reason than ever before, for the Arabs to want to brawl with Israel.

 

[Indeependent]

"...Look, I like you and Rocco, but you are both so biased that you are blind to the dynamics of cause and effect."

Blind, or simply aware that cause-and-effect or no, there is no practical remedy for it, so Israel might as well continue to hammer-out progress on the Reconquista by slow stages until they are sufficiently secure that cause-and-effect is no longer operative in that setting?

Expanding Israel's borders weakens her because of a limited population, but yea sure, keep spreading your resources and keep killing.

Israel's level of Military Technology has eliminated that concern.
I only say this because I have friends in the IDF on the Technology side.
The larger the space, the better.

 

[Billo_Really]

They were suspected and questioned while the investigation is carried out.

They're incarcerated for months, even years, at a time, without ever being charged or convicted of a crime.

We live with long lines and waits to go on a plane, get into government building, we have to get tagged to enter a hospital, even schools have metal detectors and searches.

Not the same thing. Getting on a plane or into a hospital is not regulated by a foreign army belligerently occupying your country in violation of international laws.

We all suffer because of terrorism and hate.

1.5 million Gazan's are not terrorists and collective punishment is a war crime.

Palestinians are permitted to use Israeli hospitals, even though they have their own in gaza and the WB.

Their hospitals are bombed by the IDF and they have constant shortages of medical supply's.

It is a privilege not a "right" to enter Israel and get medical care. If the paper work is not correct or there are some people that the IDF find suspicious, there will be delays.

Someone is in a life threatening situation and you think it's more important to check their paperwork?

That say's a lot about you!

Ambulance get processed through as to emergence and pregnancy cases. Two entrances into Israel from gaza, like going through customs crossing a border. No you cannot casually walk into Israel from gaza, nor should you expect that.

What about in the West Bank? Don't Palestinian's there have a right to their freedom of movement on their own land? It would be like your neighbor telling you couldn't walk across your own driveway.

The water wasted is poor maintenance of their pipes. They loose 30% of their water because of leaking pipes. They also have sewage contamination and polluted wells and aquifers that they are responsible for. Not Israel.

Wrong. Their sewage treatment plants were bombed by the Israeli's and the IDF won't allow the proper building materials into Gaza to rebuild them.

Palestinians are stealing water that is supposed to go to the Israelis.

How can they be stealing water from settlements that have been ruled illegal by every court in the world?

I've posted links an fact pertaining to the water situation in previous posts. You had the evidence, sorry if you did not choose to read it.

More on this in a minute.

It is about the hamas threats to never allow Israel to exist.

Israel won't allow them to exist, so what's the difference?

To take all Israel back as a greater palestine state.

They've already said they'd accept a two-state solution, why do you act like they didn't?

It is about hamas declaring war on Israel, firing rockets and trying to kill Israelis.

No, it's about Israel maintaining a 47 year occupation of land that isn't theirs.

There are some 5000 trucks a day delivering to gaza.

Prove it.

You bragged about having "evidence", well, let's see some on these truckloads you're referring to?

The only blockade is of particular items that can be used in bombs or tunnels.

Why can't they have bombs? Are you saying they don't have a right to defend themselves?

The sea blockade limits the fishing up to a certain point, but not crossing into Israeli waters.

Israel restricts their fishing to 3 miles, when international law allows 12. And they routinely shoot at their fishermen for fun.

They are not allowing smuggling.

Who Gazan's trade with a sovereign nation, is none of Israel's god-damn business!

Egypt is the one that shut it's border. You are angry at the wrong people.

No, I've got the right people to be angry at. I don't like hypocrites. And Israel is full of them.

 

[Phoenall]

aris2chat; Phoenall; montelatici; et al,

In the 21st Century, the cultures need to rely on a wisdom that is beyond mere self-interests and personal benefit. For more than ten centuries, man has be building upon the concept and philosophy that the future of humanity rests in the mutual development and prosperity within each society of the species; working in harmony.

Why should palestinians in the west bank get Israeli rights? They are palestinians not Israelis.
They get their rights from the PA, not Israel.

(COMMENT)

What I hear --- is that the Palestinians want the freedom, prosperity and cultural development that the Israelis have.
Most Respectfully,
R

Exactly what the non-whites in South Africa wanted.

Big difference was that the blacks in South Africa lived in South Africa and not Somalia. Would it be your fault if the Palestinians wanted the same rights as you get your country and the P.A. refused to give them. Well it is exactly the same in the west bank the Palestinians want Israeli rights without being Israeli citizens, so they need to work on their government to provide them. If they want the right to vote In Israeli elections then they need to be Israeli's, if they want the right to Israeli education then they need to be Israeli's, if they want the right to claim Israeli welfare then they need to be Israeli.
Now you work it all out for yourself, how can they become Israeli ?

 

[Phoenall]

aris2chat; Phoenall; montelatici; et al,

In the 21st Century, the cultures need to rely on a wisdom that is beyond mere self-interests and personal benefit. For more than ten centuries, man has be building upon the concept and philosophy that the future of humanity rests in the mutual development and prosperity within each society of the species; working in harmony.


(COMMENT)

What I hear --- is that the Palestinians want the freedom, prosperity and cultural development that the Israelis have.
Most Respectfully,
R

Exactly what the non-whites in South Africa wanted.

the blacks were south african.
Palestinians are not Israeli

The immature fool has not worked that one out yet............

 

[Phoenall]

aris2chat; Phoenall; montelatici; et al,

In the 21st Century, the cultures need to rely on a wisdom that is beyond mere self-interests and personal benefit. For more than ten centuries, man has be building upon the concept and philosophy that the future of humanity rests in the mutual development and prosperity within each society of the species; working in harmony.

Why should palestinians in the west bank get Israeli rights? They are palestinians not Israelis.
They get their rights from the PA, not Israel.

(COMMENT)

What I hear --- is that the Palestinians want the freedom, prosperity and cultural development that the Israelis have. And in not having it, they feel ostracized and rejected, --- crying "apartheid," as if it were somehow the Israelis fault that the Arab-Palestinian did not put forth the productive efforts that the Jewish State invested to build a nation that flourishes, while the Arab-Palestinian only knows of conflict and despair, unable to organize itself or articulate a National Policy that will create a productive mindset and instill a competitive environment for the actualization of the people --- away from war and conflict --- and moving towards the creation of wealth and commerce, employment generation, and scientific discovery; all the overall improvements and focus necessary to enhance the standard of living for its citizenry. Instead, they have become parasites feeding on the sympathetic generosity of nations that are totally dissimilar to their own.

The Palestinians must learn that they just can't get something for nothing. Today is probably the wrong day to express that, in as much as the Japanese have decided to be the next set of deep pockets that donate another bundle of money to the otherwise unproductive society that has not invested anything in their nation.

Most Respectfully,
R

As usual your one-sided propaganda gives credit to the Israelis rather than World Jewry which provided vast amounts of money to defend and develop Israel's economy...

Without that external help she would have floundered...

While islam as a whole depends on massive amounts of foreign aid or it would have seen starvation on a global scale and a civil war to end all civil wars.

Without overseas aid islam would be non existent outside of the oil producing nations.

 

[Phoenall]

As usual your one-sided propaganda gives credit to the Israelis rather than World Jewry which provided vast amounts of money to defend and develop Israel's economy...

Without that external help she would have floundered...

Oh please Pbel, I wouldnt accuse others of posting propaganda. You and Timmore are experts in that field.

What rocco said is 100% correct. Palestinians love to blame Israel for everything, and doing so has gotten them nowwhere.
What did he say that was incorrect?

What he said was that in the competition between the Palestinians and Israelis, the Israelis win and should be emulated by the Palestinians, all illogical and a croc of poo....

I wish people would see the honest reasoning for their arguments.

So the Palestinians should have slaves to do all the work for them, is that what you are saying. That they be given everything on a plate and should not have to sully their hands in work, should not have to till fields, plant trees, harvest crops, water the land and generally do good for their own people.

What honest arguments that have not already been destroyed as BLOOD LIBELS and ISLAMONAZI LIES.