This Road is for Jews Only. Yes, There is Apartheid in Israel

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

You think that Israel is a militaristic nation by choice? We differ...

You think the US helps Israel as a regime to oppress both Christians and Muslims? We differ...

Nothing to do with being pro anything. Israel is militaristic state that with the help of the U.S. oppresses Christians and Muslims that they control. Full stop.

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Israel maintains a strong military force simply because it is surrounded by hostiles. Since it was established, the adjacent Muslim nations have never given Israel a moment of peace; even though the Jewish State was established in accordance with the guidance and under the recommendations of the United Nations.

• The adjacent Arab League nations have never really refrained from organizing, instigating, assisting or participating in acts of civil strife or terrorist acts directed towards the Jewish State.
  
• The adjacent Arab League nations have never really refrained from organizing or encouraging the organization of irregular forces or armed bands (including Iranian assisted revolutionary guards weapons support), from incursions into the territory of the Jewish State.
  • The al-Aqsa Brigade.,
  • Black September,
  • HAMAS (Islamic Resistance Movement),
  • Hezbollah (Party of God),
  • The Palestine Islamic Jihad (PIJ),
  • The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP),
  • The Tanzim (Fatah).
• The adjacent Arab League nations have never really settled its international disputes with other States by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered; until the Treaties between Egypt (1979) and Jordan (1994) were consummated.

There is an interesting twist on the allegation that Israel (with US assistance) oppresses Christians and Muslims:

"I believe most Arabs will refuse this decision," Munther Na'um told CT of the controversial bill passed earlier this week. It distinguishes between Israel's Muslim and Christian Arab communities for the first time and recognizes Christians as a separate minority.

"It's meant to separate the whole family [Israeli Arabs] in political decisions," Na'um said, speaking from his base in the northern Israeli town of Shafr Amr. Palestinians living in Israel are referred to as Israeli Arabs.

"It's not good for Arabs, whether Christians or Muslims, or the Jews," he said. Na'um believes that some Israeli politicians are "trying to separate us by religious status and create a political situation from that."

SOURCE: Dale Gavlak and Kate Tracy [ POSTED 2/26/2014 ]

Israel, like any other nation, is not perfect; but it does try to address issues and make changes for the better.

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM — A new Israeli law giving Muslim and Christian Arab citizens separate representation on a national employment commission drew fierce criticism from the Palestinians on Tuesday, Feb. 25.

"This law aims to create a new reality among our people based on religion and not national identity," Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Hanan Ashrawi said in a statement.

Israel's parliament on Monday passed into law a bill expanding the equal opportunities commission from five to 10 members, and giving separate seats for the first time to representatives of Christian and Muslim Arab workers' groups.

"We and the Christians have a lot in common. They're our natural allies, a counterweight to the Muslims who want to destroy the country from within," Haaretz daily quoted the bill's sponsor, Yariv Levin, of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's Likud party, as saying.

SOURCE: THE ARAB AMERICAN NEWS

But, there are very few Israeli Christians and Muslims that are complaining of oppression. Yes, from time to time issues arise, but this is not a result of a systematic regime of oppression. It is that rarely can any nation claim that everyone is satisfied with every decision.

Most Respectfully,
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[toastman]

Israel controls the Christian and Muslim population of Palestine just as the whites controlled the non-whites that were citizens of various Bantustans created to give the illusion that the non-Whites ruled themselves. No one believed that illusion and no one, except some brainwashed Americans, believe the current illusion.

Terrible comparison. But it's to be expected from an anti Zionist pro Palestinian like yourself.
Israel controls the West Bank, not the people.

Actually, it is a perfect analog, but then, the Israel Right or Wrongers are delusional for the most part. Not only does Israel control the Christians and Muslims, they collect their taxes and keeps most of them. Even the White South Africans did not do that to the citizens of the Bantustans.

Why are you accusing the Israeli right of something you and the other Palestinian supporters are guilty of; being delusional.
Like I said, your comparison is terrible. Israel doesnt control the people in the West Bank

 

[aris2chat]

Israel controls the Christian and Muslim population of Palestine just as the whites controlled the non-whites that were citizens of various Bantustans created to give the illusion that the non-Whites ruled themselves. No one believed that illusion and no one, except some brainwashed Americans, believe the current illusion.

Wow, is that ever an apartheid term. Bantustans were/are part of the state for the last 20 yrs., they were communities within the state. The WB/G have their own government and want their own state, not to be part of a one state solution.
Palestinians are not Israeli. They don't have the same rights because they have rights thru the PA which is supposed to be under negotiations so they can fully have their own state.

You are delusional. Any rights Christians and Muslims have are the rights that Israel affords the Christians and Muslims which are not the same rights Jews have. Apartheid. No one but brainwashed Americans believe the BS you are spouting.

Israel | Freedom House
http://www.knesset.gov.il/laws/special/eng/basic3_eng.htm

 

[Ronin]

They are simply Arabs, a small portion of whom lived in the holy land when Balfour happened. End of story.

Are you saying the census taken by the British at that time is/was completely incorrect?

 

[proudveteran06]

You are delusional. Any rights Christians and Muslims have are the rights that Israel affords the Christians and Muslims which are not the same rights Jews have. Apartheid. No one but brainwashed Americans believe the BS you are spouting.

All you pro-Palis have been brainwashed. With a soapy enema. Your BS is old and stale.

Nothing to do with being pro anything. Israel is militaristic state that with the help of the U.S. oppresses Christians and Muslims that they control. Full stop.

How do they " oppress" Christians and Muslims? All Palestinians have to do is recognize the Jewish State. Notice how these Pro Palestinians have nothing to say about the way Muslims treat Christians? Another Pro Palestinian Hypocrite

 

[Billo_Really]

Palestinians are not Israeli.

20% of them are.

You want to complain about their "rights", take it up with the PA or hamas. Palestinians don't have a right to vote in Israeli election because they are supposed to have their own and are not citizens of Israel.

20% are.

Right? They enjoy the openness of Israeli courts and when they commit crimes, their jails.

What about when they don't commit crimes and are still jailed (administrative detention)?

Those in the WB/G have more rights and freedoms than their fellow palestinians in refugee camps in other countries. Palestinians in the WB get jobs working for jews in manufacturing and housing. They get paid at Israeli wages not palestinian wages.

They also got over 500 roadblocks and checkpoints that restrict their freedom of movement and make life a daily hell.

Many palestinians enter Israel to seek medical treatment.

And many are denied at checkpoints, some losing their lives in an emergency situation when they were not permitted to continue to the hospital.

They have the opportunity to learn about water conservation and constructing and infrastructure so they can rebuild and upgrade their own PA territory and services.

They also learn how their water is being stolen.

Palestinians can vote in their own election when hamas cooperates and allows election to take place.

They voted for Hamas because their less corrupt than the PA.

And because of that, Israel has had an economic blockade of Gaza ever since.

I guess they didn't vote for the right Israeli puppet to run their government?

PA is responsible for the right of the palestinians.

They're also Israel's *****!

 

[Kondor3]

All you pro-Palis have been brainwashed. With a soapy enema. Your BS is old and stale.

Nothing to do with being pro anything. Israel is militaristic state that with the help of the U.S. oppresses Christians and Muslims that they control. Full stop.

How do they " oppress" Christians and Muslims? All Palestinians have to do is recognize the Jewish State. Notice how these Pro Palestinians have nothing to say about the way Muslims treat Christians? Another Pro Palestinian Hypocrite

Or an old one wearing different 'footwear'...

Have you noticed that there seems to be a rash of Bad Guy 'stockings' surfacing in the past couple of weeks, and that they even seem to be tag-teaming?

Maybe it's just me.

 

[Kondor3]

"...They also got over 500 roadblocks and checkpoints that restrict their freedom of movement and make life a daily hell..."

Intifada I and II... hope it was worth it, dumbass Palestinians... welcome to your consequences...

 

[Phoenall]

Talk about "epic fail", just the ignorance displayed by this person's writing style is an "epic fail".

Apartheid by Israel, is quite easy to prove:

Israel rules over millions of Christian and Muslim people through military occupation without allowing them essential civil and political rights that Jews have.

Millions of Palestinians live under such a military occupation without such rights.

Ergo, this is Apartheid.

No it is Israel abiding by the Geneva conventions, if it was acting in an apartheid manner then the P.A. would not be in existence and Abbas would be dead.

 

[Phoenall]

I have a gripe with bozos that believe that oppression, ethnic cleansing and genocide against Christians and Muslims is justified because of what "might" happen to Jews. As Christians, that are not brainwashed (as most American Christians are), we are opposing the Jewish oppression of Christians in Palestine. Never mind the oppression of the Muslims. Watch this movie, made by Christians, and learn.

The stones cry out movieHome | The stones cry out movie

Tell you what you find any part of the Geneva convention that don't apply to Israel's behaviour in the west bank and I will defend your words. But if one part that you use is not applicable then you leave the board and go and play on the childrens boards.

 

[Phoenall]

Talk about "epic fail", just the ignorance displayed by this person's writing style is an "epic fail".

Apartheid by Israel, is quite easy to prove:

Israel rules over millions of Christian and Muslim people through military occupation without allowing them essential civil and political rights that Jews have.

Millions of Palestinians live under such a military occupation without such rights.

Ergo, this is Apartheid.

Palestinians are not Israeli. You want to complain about their "rights", take it up with the PA or hamas. Palestinians don't have a right to vote in Israeli election because they are supposed to have their own and are not citizens of Israel.
Right? They enjoy the openness of Israeli courts and when they commit crimes, their jails. Those in the WB/G have more rights and freedoms than their fellow palestinians in refugee camps in other countries. Palestinians in the WB get jobs working for jews in manufacturing and housing. They get paid at Israeli wages not palestinian wages.
Many palestinians enter Israel to seek medical treatment. They have the opportunity to learn about water conservation and constructing and infrastructure so they can rebuild and upgrade their own PA territory and services.
Palestinians can vote in their own election when hamas cooperates and allows election to take place.
PA is responsible for the right of the palestinians.

Israel controls the Christian and Muslim population of Palestine just as the whites controlled the non-whites that were citizens of various Bantustans created to give the illusion that the non-Whites ruled themselves. No one believed that illusion and no one, except some brainwashed Americans, believe the current illusion.

Brainwashed buffoon The P.A. allows the Christians and Muslims to vote in their own elections. All Israel controls is the defence of Israel, and that is what you are complaining about. Since 1948 the Palestinians have been at war with Israel and have launched attacks on unarmed Israeli citizens, mostly children. Well now Israel has taken measures to combat those attacks, and they are in line with the Geneva conventions.

 

[Phoenall]

Israel controls the Christian and Muslim population of Palestine just as the whites controlled the non-whites that were citizens of various Bantustans created to give the illusion that the non-Whites ruled themselves. No one believed that illusion and no one, except some brainwashed Americans, believe the current illusion.

Wow, is that ever an apartheid term. Bantustans were/are part of the state for the last 20 yrs., they were communities within the state. The WB/G have their own government and want their own state, not to be part of a one state solution.
Palestinians are not Israeli. They don't have the same rights because they have rights thru the PA which is supposed to be under negotiations so they can fully have their own state.

You are delusional. Any rights Christians and Muslims have are the rights that Israel affords the Christians and Muslims which are not the same rights Jews have. Apartheid. No one but brainwashed Americans believe the BS you are spouting.

The Jews, muslims and Christians in Israel have different rights to those of the Palestinians because the west bank is not part of Israel. The inhabitants have the rights vested by their own government, and the laws of the Geneva conventions. So if you have a problem take it up with the P.A., UN and the Hague who control what rights the Palestinians have. While you are at it ask what is being done about the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Christians by Palestinian terrorists in gaza ?

 

[Phoenall]

You are delusional. Any rights Christians and Muslims have are the rights that Israel affords the Christians and Muslims which are not the same rights Jews have. Apartheid. No one but brainwashed Americans believe the BS you are spouting.

All you pro-Palis have been brainwashed. With a soapy enema. Your BS is old and stale.

Nothing to do with being pro anything. Israel is militaristic state that with the help of the U.S. oppresses Christians and Muslims that they control. Full stop.

Do you have the same rights as I have in my country, the right to vote for the candidate of my choice. The right to free health care at any time, the right to freedom of speech. The right to security and welfare if needed. If you don't have these same rights then is it my countries fault or your countries fault.

 

[Phoenall]

[The pseudo-national homelands, such as Bantustan, have a much more complicated history than the Palestinians could ever claim. There are virtually no similarities.I][/I]

It is a perfect analog, created for the same purpose.

So were are the "bantustans" in the M.E. that have distinctive ethnic groups living in each one. Were is the Christian "Bantustan" and were is the muslim "Bantustan".

 

[Phoenall]

They are simply Arabs, a small portion of whom lived in the holy land when Balfour happened. End of story.

Are you saying the census taken by the British at that time is/was completely incorrect?

Read what is written and not what your hatred is telling is written.

Out of the 600 million arabs in the whole of the M.E. less that o.oo1% lived in the holy land. Is that any clearer ?

 

[Bumberclyde]

Keeping arabs away from you isn't apartheid, it's common sense and good hygiene.

 

[Phoenall]

Palestinians are not Israeli.

20% of them are.

You want to complain about their "rights", take it up with the PA or hamas. Palestinians don't have a right to vote in Israeli election because they are supposed to have their own and are not citizens of Israel.

20% are.

What about when they don't commit crimes and are still jailed (administrative detention)?

They also got over 500 roadblocks and checkpoints that restrict their freedom of movement and make life a daily hell.

And many are denied at checkpoints, some losing their lives in an emergency situation when they were not permitted to continue to the hospital.


They also learn how their water is being stolen.

Palestinians can vote in their own election when hamas cooperates and allows election to take place.

They voted for Hamas because their less corrupt than the PA.

And because of that, Israel has had an economic blockade of Gaza ever since.

I guess they didn't vote for the right Israeli puppet to run their government?

PA is responsible for the right of the palestinians.

They're also Israel's *****!

Nope they are Israeli........

Nope they are Israeli

Take it up with the P.A., U.N. and the Hague..............

And have found that they are even more corrupt and have taken away their right to vote.

The P.A. is not Israel's *****, if it was then the west bank would have been signed over by now and the muslims shepherded to Syria.

 

[montelatici]

I have a gripe with bozos that believe that oppression, ethnic cleansing and genocide against Christians and Muslims is justified because of what "might" happen to Jews. As Christians, that are not brainwashed (as most American Christians are), we are opposing the Jewish oppression of Christians in Palestine. Never mind the oppression of the Muslims. Watch this movie, made by Christians, and learn.

The stones cry out movieHome | The stones cry out movie

Tell you what you find any part of the Geneva convention that don't apply to Israel's behaviour in the west bank and I will defend your words. But if one part that you use is not applicable then you leave the board and go and play on the childrens boards.

Feb 14, 2014

(Reuters) "Richard Falk, U.N. special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, said that Palestinian rights are being violated by Israel's prolonged occupation of Palestinian territory and "ethnic cleansing" of East Jerusalem.....Gaza, despite the disengagement of Israel in 2005, remains "occupied" under an unlawful Israeli blockade that controls borders, airspace and coastal waters, and especially hurts farmers and fishermen..... "acts potentially amounting to segregation and apartheid", he analyzed Israeli policies, including "continuing excessive use of force by Israeli security forces" and unlawful killings that he said are "part of acts carried out in order to maintain dominance over Palestinians".......Palestinians in the West Bank are subject to military laws, while Jewish settlers face a civil law system, he said. Israel also violates their rights to work and education, freedoms of movement and residence, and of expression and assembly.......
Ten years ago the U.N.'s International Court of Justice ruled that Israel's separation wall inside the West Bank is illegal, he noted. Israel says it is a security barrier."

Will you leave the board now?

 

[montelatici]

Keeping arabs away from you isn't apartheid, it's common sense and good hygiene.

Typical racism of the Israeli right or wrongers.

 

[Bumberclyde]

Keeping arabs away from you isn't apartheid, it's common sense and good hygiene.

Typical racism of the Israeli right or wrongers.

Ok smart guy, name me 3 things of consequence that arabs have brought to the world in the past 200 years. Shoebombs don't count.