This Road is for Jews Only. Yes, There is Apartheid in Israel

Israel is the only sovereign state that has control over the people West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza. Israel controls borders, air space and territorial waters of these areas. The people inhabiting these areas are not afforded the same rights or citizenship because they are not of the Jewish faith, Jews inhabiting these areas are given citizenship and afforded equal rights. Aprtheid, pure and simple. The Jews want a separate development for people under their control based on religion.
 
Typical racism of the Israeli right or wrongers.

Ok smart guy, name me 3 things of consequence that arabs have brought to the world in the past 200 years. Shoebombs don't count. :lol:

What does that have to do with your disgusting racism?


First, it wasn't racist.

Second, "arab" is not a race; it is an ethnicity. Arabs are actually a sub-category of the caucasian race, called "arabid" (somehow fitting, I think).

Third, some arabs have made large contributions to our world. Arabic numbers stem from the arabic world. One of the world's finest cartographers, Edrisi (of King Roger's court in Spain, around 1050), was years ahead of his time. But you never answered the posters question, much less within the time frame of 200 years.


But I have a statistic for you: since 911, there have been more than 22,000 (22,533 as of today, to be exact) terror attacks across the planet caused by muslims, most of them or arabic origin. Here, feel free to use that fact as a contribution. Hope you are proud of it.

Islam: Making a True Difference in the World - One Body at a Time
 
Typical racism of the Israeli right or wrongers.

Ok smart guy, name me 3 things of consequence that arabs have brought to the world in the past 200 years. Shoebombs don't count. :lol:

What does that have to do with your disgusting racism?

Arabs have enough land to **** up, and they've fucked it all up, every last ******* arab country is a total mess. The Israelis have invented more shit, meaning they've done more with the small sliver of land that they do have. So basically, the arabs can do like you, either don't live there (move), or continue to pound sand.

And you can't even name 2 things of use arabs have invented in the past 200 years. :lol:
 
Israel is the only sovereign state that has control over the people West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza. Israel controls borders, air space and territorial waters of these areas. The people inhabiting these areas are not afforded the same rights or citizenship because they are not of the Jewish faith, Jews inhabiting these areas are given citizenship and afforded equal rights. Aprtheid, pure and simple. The Jews want a separate development for people under their control based on religion.
Incorrect.

The State of Israel includes large numbers of Muslim-Arab Palestinians as citizens.

These Arabs enjoy full rights as Israeli citizens - even if it took both the Jews and the Muslims some considerable years to level the playing field enough to make this true.

An unfortunate but understandable after-effect of The Troubles.

But, having attained such a status for its Arab citizens...

It is entirely valid and accurate and true, to posit that Israel walls-off the non-citizen Palestinians in both the West Bank and Gaza, for security and safety's sake, rather than some sort of Apartheid -like motive or operative policy.

This is pure logic and common sense.

One keeps (metaphorically) rabid, mad dogs at arms' length.

Hell, the even the Jordanians don't want 'em anymore, and even the Egyptians wall 'em off and blockade them, and those folks are the co-religionists of the Palestinians.

Collectively, the Palestinians are not 'sane' - clinically, or otherwise.

This collective insanity is due in part to the sickness which they carry within them - Jew Hatred - and that stretches back for decades and more prior to the 1948 birth of the State of Israel.

This collective insanity is due in part to the restrictive conditions in wihch they live - brought upon themselves in large part through decades of foolhardy intransigence and impracticality, Intifada I, Intifade II and the Gaza War, et al.

You can't publicy vow to slit your adversary's throats and drown them in the Mediterranean, and wage long-term guerrilla war against that adversary from a piss-poor no-win military position, and expect not to be put on a short leash.

Stupid enough to poke the Bear with a sharp stick? Yer gonna get clawed upside your head.

This collective insanity is due in part to decades of foolish and naive reliance upon the promises of neighboring Arab nations and organizations that Old Palestine would be redeemed on their behalf and New Israel would be wiped from the face of the earth.

This collective insanity is due in part to Loser Syndrome... sour grapes over being on the losing side in 1948, 1967, etc., and a child-like petulance and insistence that they can still win, when, in truth, this struggle was over many, many years ago.

The Jews won.

The Arabs lost.

Time to accept the inevitable and the bloody frigging obvious - and move on with life.

And, as to the Jews wanting a Religious Nation - or, a highly secularized democratic government, ruling over a natiion comprised largely of Jews - well... absolutely correct.

Why not?

Christendom (mostly the secularized West, and the Russias) has many nations in its sphere, and some even continue to favor Christians, to varying degrees.

Islam has many nations in its sphere, and some of them treat Muslims and non-Muslims VERY differently, in favor of Muslims.

And now the Jews have ONE of their own, too, after waiting 1900 years to get theirs back.

ONE.

MEH. No big deal. ONE country, whereas Christendom and Islam have MANY. MEH.

Good on the Jews - atta boys (and girls) of Israel - you deserve one, too, and are engaged in a long-term struggle for a right to exist, and to position yourselves in such a manner as to ensure that survival. :eusa_clap:

Much of the world understands that when you complete your necessary consolidations and have defensible and sustainable borders - that your track record on dealing with ethnic and religious minorities will shine at least as brightly and honorably as those of any other Enlightened and Modern People.

Your good works and progress in accommodating your own Muslim-Arab minority, overcoming tremendous difficulties and risks in the process, is surety that such a happy outcome will eventually materialize for you in a broader sense.

It's one helluva lot more humanitarian and generous accommodation than the Arabs on the outside had (and have?) in mind for you, had you weakened in the earliest years of your reborn Nation.

Generally speaking... well done, so far... stay strong.
 
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I have a gripe with bozos that believe that oppression, ethnic cleansing and genocide against Christians and Muslims is justified because of what "might" happen to Jews. As Christians, that are not brainwashed (as most American Christians are), we are opposing the Jewish oppression of Christians in Palestine. Never mind the oppression of the Muslims. Watch this movie, made by Christians, and learn.

The stones cry out movieHome | The stones cry out movie





Tell you what you find any part of the Geneva convention that don't apply to Israel's behaviour in the west bank and I will defend your words. But if one part that you use is not applicable then you leave the board and go and play on the childrens boards.

Feb 14, 2014

(Reuters) "Richard Falk, U.N. special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, said that Palestinian rights are being violated by Israel's prolonged occupation of Palestinian territory and "ethnic cleansing" of East Jerusalem.....Gaza, despite the disengagement of Israel in 2005, remains "occupied" under an unlawful Israeli blockade that controls borders, airspace and coastal waters, and especially hurts farmers and fishermen..... "acts potentially amounting to segregation and apartheid", he analyzed Israeli policies, including "continuing excessive use of force by Israeli security forces" and unlawful killings that he said are "part of acts carried out in order to maintain dominance over Palestinians".......Palestinians in the West Bank are subject to military laws, while Jewish settlers face a civil law system, he said. Israel also violates their rights to work and education, freedoms of movement and residence, and of expression and assembly.......
Ten years ago the U.N.'s International Court of Justice ruled that Israel's separation wall inside the West Bank is illegal, he noted. Israel says it is a security barrier."

Will you leave the board now?
Richard Falk's personal, biased opinion doesn't count.
 
I have a gripe with bozos that believe that oppression, ethnic cleansing and genocide against Christians and Muslims is justified because of what "might" happen to Jews. As Christians, that are not brainwashed (as most American Christians are), we are opposing the Jewish oppression of Christians in Palestine. Never mind the oppression of the Muslims. Watch this movie, made by Christians, and learn.

The stones cry out movieHome | The stones cry out movie





Tell you what you find any part of the Geneva convention that don't apply to Israel's behaviour in the west bank and I will defend your words. But if one part that you use is not applicable then you leave the board and go and play on the childrens boards.

Feb 14, 2014

(Reuters) "Richard Falk, U.N. special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, said that Palestinian rights are being violated by Israel's prolonged occupation of Palestinian territory and "ethnic cleansing" of East Jerusalem.....Gaza, despite the disengagement of Israel in 2005, remains "occupied" under an unlawful Israeli blockade that controls borders, airspace and coastal waters, and especially hurts farmers and fishermen..... "acts potentially amounting to segregation and apartheid", he analyzed Israeli policies, including "continuing excessive use of force by Israeli security forces" and unlawful killings that he said are "part of acts carried out in order to maintain dominance over Palestinians".......Palestinians in the West Bank are subject to military laws, while Jewish settlers face a civil law system, he said. Israel also violates their rights to work and education, freedoms of movement and residence, and of expression and assembly.......
Ten years ago the U.N.'s International Court of Justice ruled that Israel's separation wall inside the West Bank is illegal, he noted. Israel says it is a security barrier."

Will you leave the board now?




Nope as your post does not meet the requirements, were in the Geneva conventions does it say that The security barrier is illegal.


Keep trying little boy as Israel is within International law on everything it does in the west bank.

A clue for you the Geneva conventions can be found on the Rec Cross web site.
 
Typical racism of the Israeli right or wrongers.

Ok smart guy, name me 3 things of consequence that arabs have brought to the world in the past 200 years. Shoebombs don't count. :lol:

What does that have to do with your disgusting racism?




It is not racist to tell the truth, it is only racist to tell a lie about other ethnics. So saying Palestinians are violent is a truth, as is saying that arabs have invented nothing for the betterment of mankind
 
Palestinians are not Israeli.
20% of them are.
They are arab Israelis, not palestinians

You want to complain about their "rights", take it up with the PA or hamas. Palestinians don't have a right to vote in Israeli election because they are supposed to have their own and are not citizens of Israel.
20% are.
Arab Israelis vote in Israeli election. Palestinians have their own election, only right not hamas is preventing new election.
What about when they don't commit crimes and are still jailed (administrative detention)?
They were suspected and questioned while the investigation is carried out.
They also got over 500 roadblocks and checkpoints that restrict their freedom of movement and make life a daily hell.
We live with long lines and waits to go on a plane, get into government building, we have to get tagged to enter a hospital, even schools have metal detectors and searches.
We all suffer because of terrorism and hate.
And many are denied at checkpoints, some losing their lives in an emergency situation when they were not permitted to continue to the hospital.
Palestinians are permitted to use Israeli hospitals, even though they have their own in gaza and the WB. It is a privilege not a "right" to enter Israel and get medical care. If the paper work is not correct or there are some people that the IDF find suspicious, there will be delays. Ambulance get processed through as to emergence and pregnancy cases. Two entrances into Israel from gaza, like going through customs crossing a border. No you cannot casually walk into Israel from gaza, nor should you expect that.


They also learn how their water is being stolen.
Wasted
The water wasted is poor maintenance of their pipes. They loose 30% of their water because of leaking pipes. They also have sewage contamination and polluted wells and aquifers that they are responsible for. Not Israel. Palestinians are stealing water that is supposed to go to the Israelis. I've posted links an fact pertaining to the water situation in previous posts. You had the evidence, sorry if you did not choose to read it.
Palestinians can vote in their own election when hamas cooperates and allows election to take place.
They voted for Hamas because their less corrupt than the PA.
And because of that, Israel has had an economic blockade of Gaza ever since.
I guess they didn't vote for the right Israeli puppet to run their government?
It is about the hamas threats to never allow Israel to exist. To take all Israel back as a greater palestine state. It is about hamas declaring war on Israel, firing rockets and trying to kill Israelis.
PA is responsible for the right of the palestinians.
They're also Israel's *****!

There are some 5000 trucks a day delivering to gaza. The only blockade is of particular items that can be used in bombs or tunnels. The sea blockade limits the fishing up to a certain point, but not crossing into Israeli waters. They are not allowing smuggling.
Egypt is the one that shut it's border. You are angry at the wrong people.
 
Tell you what you find any part of the Geneva convention that don't apply to Israel's behaviour in the west bank and I will defend your words. But if one part that you use is not applicable then you leave the board and go and play on the childrens boards.

Feb 14, 2014

(Reuters) "Richard Falk, U.N. special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, said that Palestinian rights are being violated by Israel's prolonged occupation of Palestinian territory and "ethnic cleansing" of East Jerusalem.....Gaza, despite the disengagement of Israel in 2005, remains "occupied" under an unlawful Israeli blockade that controls borders, airspace and coastal waters, and especially hurts farmers and fishermen..... "acts potentially amounting to segregation and apartheid", he analyzed Israeli policies, including "continuing excessive use of force by Israeli security forces" and unlawful killings that he said are "part of acts carried out in order to maintain dominance over Palestinians".......Palestinians in the West Bank are subject to military laws, while Jewish settlers face a civil law system, he said. Israel also violates their rights to work and education, freedoms of movement and residence, and of expression and assembly.......
Ten years ago the U.N.'s International Court of Justice ruled that Israel's separation wall inside the West Bank is illegal, he noted. Israel says it is a security barrier."

Will you leave the board now?




Nope as your post does not meet the requirements, were in the Geneva conventions does it say that The security barrier is illegal.


Keep trying little boy as Israel is within International law on everything it does in the west bank.

A clue for you the Geneva conventions can be found on the Rec Cross web site.

A clue for you is too read UN statements;

"IsraelÂ’s violations of international law

As recalled by the Tribunal during its previous sessions, various well-documented acts committed by Israel constitute violations of several basic rules of international law to be found in international customary law, treaties, resolutions of the political organs of the UN, and the Advisory Opinion on the Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (ICJ decision on the Wall – A/ES-10/273).

• Violation of the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination as codified in Res. 1514 (XV) and 2625 (XXV), and recognized by the ICJ in its decision on the Wall.

• Violation of customary law, human rights norms (A/RES/194/III, § 11 and customary IHL as codified by the ICRC in 2005, Rule 132, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights Art. 12(2)) by prohibiting the return of Palestinian refugees to their homes.

• Violation of the Security Council (UNSC) Resolutions requiring Israel to withdraw from the Occupied Territory (87 resolutions to this day) and the UN Charter which obliges the Member States to “carry out the decisions of the Security Council” (Art. 25).

• Violation of “[…] the principle of the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war” (UNSC Res. 242), as well as the Security Council Resolutions condemning the annexation of Jerusalem.3

• Violation of the Palestinian people’s right to their natural resources and wealth through the Israeli use of Palestinian agricultural land, the exploitation of Palestinian water reserves and preventing Palestinian access to more than 10% of their safe drinking water reserves (A/RES/64/292).

• Violation of international humanitarian law prohibiting:

• the establishment of Israeli settlements (4th 1949 Geneva Convention (GC), Art. 49 and 147), the expulsions of Palestinians from their territory (id.);

• the demolitions and expropriations of Arab houses and lands situated in the occupied country (1907 Hague Regulations, Art. 46 and 55);

• mistreatment, torture and prolonged administrative detention of Palestinians in Israeli prisons (4th GC, Art. 3, 32 and 78);

• non-compliance with the right of return of Palestinian refugees to their homes (A/RES/194/III, § 11 and customary IHL as codified by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in 2005, Rule 132);

• military attacks against civilians, indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks against Gaza and Palestinian refugees camps (customary international humanitarian law, ICRC Compendium Rules 1 and 14);

• collective punishment of the Palestinian population of Gaza, where the World Health Organization reports that life will not be sustainable by the year 2020 (Art. 33, GC);

• the terms articulated by the 2004 ICJ decision on the Wall.

• Violation of fundamental rights and freedoms such as freedom of movement, freedom of religion, right to work, to health, to education because of the Israeli Wall and check-points in the Occupied Territory which prevent Palestinian free access to their work place, school, health services and religious places (1966 Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Art. 12 and 18; id. on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, Art. 6, 12, 13).

• Violation of the prohibition of discrimination based on national origin through Israeli policies and practices akin to Apartheid (2011 Cape Town findings of this Tribunal), which have denied Palestinians a functioning nationality both within Israel proper as well as the Occupied Territory and beyond.

Among these violations of international law, several of them are criminally sanctioned: war crimes,4 crimes against humanity,5 and the crime of Apartheid.6 Because of their systematic, numerous, flagrant and, sometimes, criminal character, these violations are of a particularly high gravity."


AND

“Israel must cease settlement activities and provide adequate, prompt and effective remedy to the victims of violations of human rights,” Christine Chanet, a French judge who led the U.N. inquiry, told a news conference.

The settlements contravened the Fourth Geneva Convention forbidding the transfer of civilian populations into occupied territory and could amount to war crimes that fall under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court (ICC), the United Nations report .

UN fact-finding mission: Israeli settlements violate international law; Governments and companies must must '[terminate] their business interests in the settlements'
 
Feb 14, 2014

(Reuters) "Richard Falk, U.N. special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, said that Palestinian rights are being violated by Israel's prolonged occupation of Palestinian territory and "ethnic cleansing" of East Jerusalem.....Gaza, despite the disengagement of Israel in 2005, remains "occupied" under an unlawful Israeli blockade that controls borders, airspace and coastal waters, and especially hurts farmers and fishermen..... "acts potentially amounting to segregation and apartheid", he analyzed Israeli policies, including "continuing excessive use of force by Israeli security forces" and unlawful killings that he said are "part of acts carried out in order to maintain dominance over Palestinians".......Palestinians in the West Bank are subject to military laws, while Jewish settlers face a civil law system, he said. Israel also violates their rights to work and education, freedoms of movement and residence, and of expression and assembly.......
Ten years ago the U.N.'s International Court of Justice ruled that Israel's separation wall inside the West Bank is illegal, he noted. Israel says it is a security barrier."

Will you leave the board now?




Nope as your post does not meet the requirements, were in the Geneva conventions does it say that The security barrier is illegal.


Keep trying little boy as Israel is within International law on everything it does in the west bank.

A clue for you the Geneva conventions can be found on the Rec Cross web site.

A clue for you is too read UN statements;

"IsraelÂ’s violations of international law

As recalled by the Tribunal during its previous sessions, various well-documented acts committed by Israel constitute violations of several basic rules of international law to be found in international customary law, treaties, resolutions of the political organs of the UN, and the Advisory Opinion on the Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (ICJ decision on the Wall – A/ES-10/273).

• Violation of the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination as codified in Res. 1514 (XV) and 2625 (XXV), and recognized by the ICJ in its decision on the Wall.

• Violation of customary law, human rights norms (A/RES/194/III, § 11 and customary IHL as codified by the ICRC in 2005, Rule 132, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights Art. 12(2)) by prohibiting the return of Palestinian refugees to their homes.

• Violation of the Security Council (UNSC) Resolutions requiring Israel to withdraw from the Occupied Territory (87 resolutions to this day) and the UN Charter which obliges the Member States to “carry out the decisions of the Security Council” (Art. 25).

• Violation of “[…] the principle of the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war” (UNSC Res. 242), as well as the Security Council Resolutions condemning the annexation of Jerusalem.3

• Violation of the Palestinian people’s right to their natural resources and wealth through the Israeli use of Palestinian agricultural land, the exploitation of Palestinian water reserves and preventing Palestinian access to more than 10% of their safe drinking water reserves (A/RES/64/292).

• Violation of international humanitarian law prohibiting:

• the establishment of Israeli settlements (4th 1949 Geneva Convention (GC), Art. 49 and 147), the expulsions of Palestinians from their territory (id.);

• the demolitions and expropriations of Arab houses and lands situated in the occupied country (1907 Hague Regulations, Art. 46 and 55);

• mistreatment, torture and prolonged administrative detention of Palestinians in Israeli prisons (4th GC, Art. 3, 32 and 78);

• non-compliance with the right of return of Palestinian refugees to their homes (A/RES/194/III, § 11 and customary IHL as codified by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in 2005, Rule 132);

• military attacks against civilians, indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks against Gaza and Palestinian refugees camps (customary international humanitarian law, ICRC Compendium Rules 1 and 14);

• collective punishment of the Palestinian population of Gaza, where the World Health Organization reports that life will not be sustainable by the year 2020 (Art. 33, GC);

• the terms articulated by the 2004 ICJ decision on the Wall.

• Violation of fundamental rights and freedoms such as freedom of movement, freedom of religion, right to work, to health, to education because of the Israeli Wall and check-points in the Occupied Territory which prevent Palestinian free access to their work place, school, health services and religious places (1966 Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Art. 12 and 18; id. on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, Art. 6, 12, 13).

• Violation of the prohibition of discrimination based on national origin through Israeli policies and practices akin to Apartheid (2011 Cape Town findings of this Tribunal), which have denied Palestinians a functioning nationality both within Israel proper as well as the Occupied Territory and beyond.

Among these violations of international law, several of them are criminally sanctioned: war crimes,4 crimes against humanity,5 and the crime of Apartheid.6 Because of their systematic, numerous, flagrant and, sometimes, criminal character, these violations are of a particularly high gravity."


AND

“Israel must cease settlement activities and provide adequate, prompt and effective remedy to the victims of violations of human rights,” Christine Chanet, a French judge who led the U.N. inquiry, told a news conference.

The settlements contravened the Fourth Geneva Convention forbidding the transfer of civilian populations into occupied territory and could amount to war crimes that fall under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court (ICC), the United Nations report .

UN fact-finding mission: Israeli settlements violate international law; Governments and companies must must '[terminate] their business interests in the settlements'
The $64 question is: Who's gonna be the first one to stand up to Israel?
Answer: Nobody. No guts, all mouth.
 
Wow, is that ever an apartheid term. Bantustans were/are part of the state for the last 20 yrs., they were communities within the state. The WB/G have their own government and want their own state, not to be part of a one state solution.
Palestinians are not Israeli. They don't have the same rights because they have rights thru the PA which is supposed to be under negotiations so they can fully have their own state.

You are delusional. Any rights Christians and Muslims have are the rights that Israel affords the Christians and Muslims which are not the same rights Jews have. Apartheid. No one but brainwashed Americans believe the BS you are spouting.



The Jews, muslims and Christians in Israel have different rights to those of the Palestinians because the west bank is not part of Israel. The inhabitants have the rights vested by their own government, and the laws of the Geneva conventions. So if you have a problem take it up with the P.A., UN and the Hague who control what rights the Palestinians have. While you are at it ask what is being done about the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Christians by Palestinian terrorists in gaza ?

Why should palestinians in the west bank get Israeli rights? They are palestinians not Israelis.
They get their rights from the PA, not Israel.
 
You are a racist. Full stop.





Sorry to burst your bubble but you cant be racist towards a religious cult, Will you try Nazi next, then fascist and finally islamophobe and find that all these terms have no meaning any longer.
 
Feb 14, 2014

(Reuters) "Richard Falk, U.N. special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, said that Palestinian rights are being violated by Israel's prolonged occupation of Palestinian territory and "ethnic cleansing" of East Jerusalem.....Gaza, despite the disengagement of Israel in 2005, remains "occupied" under an unlawful Israeli blockade that controls borders, airspace and coastal waters, and especially hurts farmers and fishermen..... "acts potentially amounting to segregation and apartheid", he analyzed Israeli policies, including "continuing excessive use of force by Israeli security forces" and unlawful killings that he said are "part of acts carried out in order to maintain dominance over Palestinians".......Palestinians in the West Bank are subject to military laws, while Jewish settlers face a civil law system, he said. Israel also violates their rights to work and education, freedoms of movement and residence, and of expression and assembly.......
Ten years ago the U.N.'s International Court of Justice ruled that Israel's separation wall inside the West Bank is illegal, he noted. Israel says it is a security barrier."

Will you leave the board now?




Nope as your post does not meet the requirements, were in the Geneva conventions does it say that The security barrier is illegal.


Keep trying little boy as Israel is within International law on everything it does in the west bank.

A clue for you the Geneva conventions can be found on the Rec Cross web site.

A clue for you is too read UN statements;

"IsraelÂ’s violations of international law

As recalled by the Tribunal during its previous sessions, various well-documented acts committed by Israel constitute violations of several basic rules of international law to be found in international customary law, treaties, resolutions of the political organs of the UN, and the Advisory Opinion on the Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (ICJ decision on the Wall – A/ES-10/273).

• Violation of the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination as codified in Res. 1514 (XV) and 2625 (XXV), and recognized by the ICJ in its decision on the Wall.

• Violation of customary law, human rights norms (A/RES/194/III, § 11 and customary IHL as codified by the ICRC in 2005, Rule 132, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights Art. 12(2)) by prohibiting the return of Palestinian refugees to their homes.

• Violation of the Security Council (UNSC) Resolutions requiring Israel to withdraw from the Occupied Territory (87 resolutions to this day) and the UN Charter which obliges the Member States to “carry out the decisions of the Security Council” (Art. 25).

• Violation of “[…] the principle of the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war” (UNSC Res. 242), as well as the Security Council Resolutions condemning the annexation of Jerusalem.3

• Violation of the Palestinian people’s right to their natural resources and wealth through the Israeli use of Palestinian agricultural land, the exploitation of Palestinian water reserves and preventing Palestinian access to more than 10% of their safe drinking water reserves (A/RES/64/292).

• Violation of international humanitarian law prohibiting:

• the establishment of Israeli settlements (4th 1949 Geneva Convention (GC), Art. 49 and 147), the expulsions of Palestinians from their territory (id.);

• the demolitions and expropriations of Arab houses and lands situated in the occupied country (1907 Hague Regulations, Art. 46 and 55);

• mistreatment, torture and prolonged administrative detention of Palestinians in Israeli prisons (4th GC, Art. 3, 32 and 78);

• non-compliance with the right of return of Palestinian refugees to their homes (A/RES/194/III, § 11 and customary IHL as codified by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in 2005, Rule 132);

• military attacks against civilians, indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks against Gaza and Palestinian refugees camps (customary international humanitarian law, ICRC Compendium Rules 1 and 14);

• collective punishment of the Palestinian population of Gaza, where the World Health Organization reports that life will not be sustainable by the year 2020 (Art. 33, GC);

• the terms articulated by the 2004 ICJ decision on the Wall.

• Violation of fundamental rights and freedoms such as freedom of movement, freedom of religion, right to work, to health, to education because of the Israeli Wall and check-points in the Occupied Territory which prevent Palestinian free access to their work place, school, health services and religious places (1966 Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Art. 12 and 18; id. on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, Art. 6, 12, 13).

• Violation of the prohibition of discrimination based on national origin through Israeli policies and practices akin to Apartheid (2011 Cape Town findings of this Tribunal), which have denied Palestinians a functioning nationality both within Israel proper as well as the Occupied Territory and beyond.

Among these violations of international law, several of them are criminally sanctioned: war crimes,4 crimes against humanity,5 and the crime of Apartheid.6 Because of their systematic, numerous, flagrant and, sometimes, criminal character, these violations are of a particularly high gravity."


AND

“Israel must cease settlement activities and provide adequate, prompt and effective remedy to the victims of violations of human rights,” Christine Chanet, a French judge who led the U.N. inquiry, told a news conference.

The settlements contravened the Fourth Geneva Convention forbidding the transfer of civilian populations into occupied territory and could amount to war crimes that fall under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court (ICC), the United Nations report .

UN fact-finding mission: Israeli settlements violate international law; Governments and companies must must '[terminate] their business interests in the settlements'





The Palestinians have that right and have exercised it in the wrong way

None of the resolutions demand that Israel vacate the occupied territory now, they all say when peace has been declared and there has been no belligerence for 12 months.

And were does it say " Palestinians " in the Geneva conventions

No Palestinians have been ejected from Palestine. but you forgot about this in the articles you provide

49 Nevertheless, the Occupying Power may undertake total or partial evacuation of a given area if the security of the population or imperative military reasons so demand. Such evacuations may not involve the displacement of protected persons outside the bounds of the occupied territory except when for material reasons it is impossible to avoid such displacement. Persons thus evacuated shall be transferred back to their homes as soon as hostilities in the area in question have ceased.
147 not justified by military necessity

Only those abodes that are used for militia have been demolished

46 In so far as they have not been previously withdrawn, restrictive measures taken regarding protected persons shall be cancelled as soon as possible after the close of hostilities
55 To the fullest extent of the means available to it, the Occupying Power has the duty of ensuring the food and medical supplies of the population; it should, in particular, bring in the necessary foodstuffs, medical stores and other articles if the resources of the occupied territory are inadequate

The first article does not apply and is only for the wounded and POW's. The second does not apply either.
78 If the Occupying Power considers it necessary, for imperative reasons of security, to take safety measures concerning protected persons, it may, at the most, subject them to assigned residence or to internment.
sums it up perfectly and shows that Israel is within the law.

Yiu really should read what you are quoting as every article spells out exactly what Israel is doing to comply with International law and the Geneva conventions.
 
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aris2chat; Phoenall; montelatici; et al,

In the 21st Century, the cultures need to rely on a wisdom that is beyond mere self-interests and personal benefit. For more than ten centuries, man has be building upon the concept and philosophy that the future of humanity rests in the mutual development and prosperity within each society of the species; working in harmony.

You are delusional. Any rights Christians and Muslims have are the rights that Israel affords the Christians and Muslims which are not the same rights Jews have. Apartheid. No one but brainwashed Americans believe the BS you are spouting.
The Jews, muslims and Christians in Israel have different rights to those of the Palestinians because the west bank is not part of Israel. The inhabitants have the rights vested by their own government, and the laws of the Geneva conventions. So if you have a problem take it up with the P.A., UN and the Hague who control what rights the Palestinians have. While you are at it ask what is being done about the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Christians by Palestinian terrorists in gaza ?
Why should palestinians in the west bank get Israeli rights? They are palestinians not Israelis.
They get their rights from the PA, not Israel.
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What I hear --- is that the Palestinians want the freedom, prosperity and cultural development that the Israelis have. And in not having it, they feel ostracized and rejected, --- crying "apartheid," as if it were somehow the Israelis fault that the Arab-Palestinian did not put forth the productive efforts that the Jewish State invested to build a nation that flourishes, while the Arab-Palestinian only knows of conflict and despair, unable to organize itself or articulate a National Policy that will create a productive mindset and instill a competitive environment for the actualization of the people --- away from war and conflict --- and moving towards the creation of wealth and commerce, employment generation, and scientific discovery; all the overall improvements and focus necessary to enhance the standard of living for its citizenry. Instead, they have become parasites feeding on the sympathetic generosity of nations that are totally dissimilar to their own.

The Palestinians must learn that they just can't get something for nothing. Today is probably the wrong day to express that, in as much as the Japanese have decided to be the next set of deep pockets that donate another bundle of money to the otherwise unproductive society that has not invested anything in their nation.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
"Mister Marshall has made his decision. Now let him enforce it."

( apocryphally attributed to President Andrew Jackson )

Feb 14, 2014

(Reuters) "Richard Falk, U.N. special rapporteur on human rights in the Palestinian territories, said that Palestinian rights are being violated by Israel's prolonged occupation of Palestinian territory and "ethnic cleansing" of East Jerusalem.....Gaza, despite the disengagement of Israel in 2005, remains "occupied" under an unlawful Israeli blockade that controls borders, airspace and coastal waters, and especially hurts farmers and fishermen..... "acts potentially amounting to segregation and apartheid", he analyzed Israeli policies, including "continuing excessive use of force by Israeli security forces" and unlawful killings that he said are "part of acts carried out in order to maintain dominance over Palestinians".......Palestinians in the West Bank are subject to military laws, while Jewish settlers face a civil law system, he said. Israel also violates their rights to work and education, freedoms of movement and residence, and of expression and assembly.......
Ten years ago the U.N.'s International Court of Justice ruled that Israel's separation wall inside the West Bank is illegal, he noted. Israel says it is a security barrier."

Will you leave the board now?




Nope as your post does not meet the requirements, were in the Geneva conventions does it say that The security barrier is illegal.


Keep trying little boy as Israel is within International law on everything it does in the west bank.

A clue for you the Geneva conventions can be found on the Rec Cross web site.

A clue for you is too read UN statements;

"Israel’s violations of international law

As recalled by the Tribunal during its previous sessions, various well-documented acts committed by Israel constitute violations of several basic rules of international law to be found in international customary law, treaties, resolutions of the political organs of the UN, and the Advisory Opinion on the Legal Consequences of the Construction of a Wall in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (ICJ decision on the Wall – A/ES-10/273).

• Violation of the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination as codified in Res. 1514 (XV) and 2625 (XXV), and recognized by the ICJ in its decision on the Wall.

• Violation of customary law, human rights norms (A/RES/194/III, § 11 and customary IHL as codified by the ICRC in 2005, Rule 132, International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights Art. 12(2)) by prohibiting the return of Palestinian refugees to their homes.

• Violation of the Security Council (UNSC) Resolutions requiring Israel to withdraw from the Occupied Territory (87 resolutions to this day) and the UN Charter which obliges the Member States to “carry out the decisions of the Security Council” (Art. 25).

• Violation of “[…] the principle of the inadmissibility of the acquisition of territory by war” (UNSC Res. 242), as well as the Security Council Resolutions condemning the annexation of Jerusalem.3

• Violation of the Palestinian people’s right to their natural resources and wealth through the Israeli use of Palestinian agricultural land, the exploitation of Palestinian water reserves and preventing Palestinian access to more than 10% of their safe drinking water reserves (A/RES/64/292).

• Violation of international humanitarian law prohibiting:

• the establishment of Israeli settlements (4th 1949 Geneva Convention (GC), Art. 49 and 147), the expulsions of Palestinians from their territory (id.);

• the demolitions and expropriations of Arab houses and lands situated in the occupied country (1907 Hague Regulations, Art. 46 and 55);

• mistreatment, torture and prolonged administrative detention of Palestinians in Israeli prisons (4th GC, Art. 3, 32 and 78);

• non-compliance with the right of return of Palestinian refugees to their homes (A/RES/194/III, § 11 and customary IHL as codified by the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) in 2005, Rule 132);

• military attacks against civilians, indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks against Gaza and Palestinian refugees camps (customary international humanitarian law, ICRC Compendium Rules 1 and 14);

• collective punishment of the Palestinian population of Gaza, where the World Health Organization reports that life will not be sustainable by the year 2020 (Art. 33, GC);

• the terms articulated by the 2004 ICJ decision on the Wall.

• Violation of fundamental rights and freedoms such as freedom of movement, freedom of religion, right to work, to health, to education because of the Israeli Wall and check-points in the Occupied Territory which prevent Palestinian free access to their work place, school, health services and religious places (1966 Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, Art. 12 and 18; id. on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights, Art. 6, 12, 13).

• Violation of the prohibition of discrimination based on national origin through Israeli policies and practices akin to Apartheid (2011 Cape Town findings of this Tribunal), which have denied Palestinians a functioning nationality both within Israel proper as well as the Occupied Territory and beyond.

Among these violations of international law, several of them are criminally sanctioned: war crimes,4 crimes against humanity,5 and the crime of Apartheid.6 Because of their systematic, numerous, flagrant and, sometimes, criminal character, these violations are of a particularly high gravity."


AND

“Israel must cease settlement activities and provide adequate, prompt and effective remedy to the victims of violations of human rights,” Christine Chanet, a French judge who led the U.N. inquiry, told a news conference.

The settlements contravened the Fourth Geneva Convention forbidding the transfer of civilian populations into occupied territory and could amount to war crimes that fall under the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court (ICC), the United Nations report .

UN fact-finding mission: Israeli settlements violate international law; Governments and companies must must '[terminate] their business interests in the settlements'
 
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aris2chat; Phoenall; montelatici; et al,

In the 21st Century, the cultures need to rely on a wisdom that is beyond mere self-interests and personal benefit. For more than ten centuries, man has be building upon the concept and philosophy that the future of humanity rests in the mutual development and prosperity within each society of the species; working in harmony.

The Jews, muslims and Christians in Israel have different rights to those of the Palestinians because the west bank is not part of Israel. The inhabitants have the rights vested by their own government, and the laws of the Geneva conventions. So if you have a problem take it up with the P.A., UN and the Hague who control what rights the Palestinians have. While you are at it ask what is being done about the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Christians by Palestinian terrorists in gaza ?
Why should palestinians in the west bank get Israeli rights? They are palestinians not Israelis.
They get their rights from the PA, not Israel.
(COMMENT)

What I hear --- is that the Palestinians want the freedom, prosperity and cultural development that the Israelis have.
Most Respectfully,
R

Exactly what the non-whites in South Africa wanted.
 
aris2chat; Phoenall; montelatici; et al,

In the 21st Century, the cultures need to rely on a wisdom that is beyond mere self-interests and personal benefit. For more than ten centuries, man has be building upon the concept and philosophy that the future of humanity rests in the mutual development and prosperity within each society of the species; working in harmony.

Why should palestinians in the west bank get Israeli rights? They are palestinians not Israelis.
They get their rights from the PA, not Israel.
(COMMENT)

What I hear --- is that the Palestinians want the freedom, prosperity and cultural development that the Israelis have.
Most Respectfully,
R

Exactly what the non-whites in South Africa wanted.

the blacks were south african.
Palestinians are not Israeli
 
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