This puts trump's unhinged threats in an odd, new light.

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White House Knew About Pakistan’s Cease-Fire Post on X Before It Was Sent​

It seemed like a last-ditch public plea.

President Trump’s 8 p.m. deadline for Iran was fast approaching, and Pakistan was trying to orchestrate an off-ramp for both sides. So Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif took to social media.

Mr. Sharif, adopting Trumpian parlance, said in a post on X Tuesday afternoon that diplomacy was ā€œprogressing steadily, strongly and powerfullyā€ and that he was requesting that Mr. Trump extend the deadline for two weeks. He then tagged Mr. Trump and other top advisers.

But behind the scenes, the White House had already seen and signed off on the statement before Mr. Sharif posted it, according to a person briefed on the communication, a sign that the diplomatic channels were much more active than the message on social media suggested.

And it showed that the White House — even as Mr. Trump was threatening to wipe out Iran’s civilization unless Tehran agreed to reopen the Strait of Hormuz — was actively looking for a way out of the crisis as the deadline drew near on Tuesday.

A White House official denied that Mr. Trump wrote the statement, as some observers speculated on social media when Mr. Sharif initially posted the statement with the header: ā€œDraft - Pakistan’s PM Message on Xā€. The Pakistani Embassy did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/08/world/middleeast/trump-pakistan-tweet-iran.html

Say what? I don't think trump looking for a way out of the corner he put himself in is a surprise. Although no one can question his appetite for war crimes or violations of international law. What's surprising is the WH had a hand in crafting the proposal coming from the Pakistani PM. Making his bluster look less real and more like a good cop, bad cop scene from a TV show.
 
I don't think trump looking for a way out of the corner he put himself in is a surprise.
He had to get out, and we knew he'd claim a huge victory no matter what. And we knew he'd have to blame someone for anything that wasn't "perfect", so he's blaming Europe.

This time, it's not just Americans who see the scam. The whole world sees it, our credibility is destroyed, and we have now given away our title of "Leader of the Free World". Right now, such a person/country doesn't exist.

80 years of building trust and leadership down the toilet. Even MAGA mouthpieces see it now. Only the true mindless cult remains.
 
He had to get out, and we knew he'd claim a huge victory. And we knew he'd have to blame someone for anything that wasn't "perfect", so he's blaming Europe.

This time, it's not just Americans who see the scam. The whole world sees it, our credibility is destroyed, and we have now given away our title of "Leader of the Free World". Right now, such a person doesn't exist.

Even MAGA mouthpieces see it now. Only the true mindless cult remains.
A friend of mine just got back from a trip to Portugal. She said a number of residents asked her what is going on in America. It made me wonder how I would answer that question. How to boil down all the complexities in to a simple answer. If pressed to only use one word it would either be demagogue or cult.
 
He had to get out, and we knew he'd claim a huge victory no matter what. And we knew he'd have to blame someone for anything that wasn't "perfect", so he's blaming Europe.

This time, it's not just Americans who see the scam. The whole world sees it, our credibility is destroyed, and we have now given away our title of "Leader of the Free World". Right now, such a person/country doesn't exist.

80 years of building trust and leadership down the toilet. Even MAGA mouthpieces see it now. Only the true mindless cult remains.
How do you live with your head so far up your ass? Iran has proven they are no friends to their neighbors, Qatar, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, etc…. And you think the fact that Trump and the White House knew about the ceasefire before it was posted on X means what exactly? Trump is looking for a peaceful end to this conflict, but you seem to think that makes him bad. Because Trump is always bad right? Get your head out of your retarded ass, I promise you’ll like the smell of fresh air more than your own shit
 
A friend of mine just got back from a trip to Portugal. She said a number of residents asked her what is going on in America. It made me wonder how I would answer that question. How to boil down all the complexities in to a simple answer. If pressed to only use one word it would either be demagogue or cult.
I have family in Europe, and we do a weekly Zoom call. They constantly ask me about this, and it's been interesting seeing their view evolve just like ours did. Joking and mockery at first, then the understanding of the damage he's doing. A sense of mourning.

Also, they've gone from feeling bad for America to saying, "well, America voted him in". And now that he's affecting them, he's on essentially the same level as Putin for them. America is now an untrustworthy, militaristic, predator nation.

And worst of all, the trust is broken. They gave us a pass on Trump when we elected Biden, but all bets are off now. They're going with other options wherever possible, and will continue to pull away.
 
He had to get out, and we knew he'd claim a huge victory no matter what. And we knew he'd have to blame someone for anything that wasn't "perfect", so he's blaming Europe.
Iran attacked Turkey, a NATO country, and the euroweenies did nothing to help the US defang Iran, even though they had the perfect excuse.

The "diplomatic morons" pushed the worthless JCPOA and even gave Iran $56,000,000,000 not to develop nukes. Which Iran immediately used to develop nukes and ICBMs. So stupid.
Now Trump is done fooling around, Iran gives up their nukes or gets destroyed.
This time, it's not just Americans who see the scam. The whole world sees it, our credibility is destroyed, and we have now given away our title of "Leader of the Free World". Right now, such a person/country doesn't exist.
Another "drama queen". What "scam"? Either Iran plays ball or gets their bridges and powerplants destroyed. The "Free World" is only free because of the US.
80 years of building trust and leadership down the toilet. Even MAGA mouthpieces see it now. Only the true mindless cult remains.
So you say. What is NATO without the US? Eisenhower wanted Europe to stand up militarily, which the socialists didn't do. The US spent $trillions defending the EU from the Russian threat over those 80-years. Now the dickless weenies don't want our bases or for us to fly over their country. I hope Trump brings most of the troops home except for our "true allies". Let the EU pull their own weight.
 
I have family in Europe, and we do a weekly Zoom call. They constantly ask me about this, and it's been interesting seeing their view evolve just like ours did. Joking and mockery at first, then the understanding of the damage he's doing. A sense of mourning.

Also, they've gone from feeling bad for America to saying, "well, America voted him in". And now that he's affecting them, he's on essentially the same level as Putin for them. America is now an untrustworthy, militaristic, predator nation.

And worst of all, the trust is broken. They gave us a pass on Trump when we elected Biden, but all bets are off now. They're going with other options wherever possible, and will continue to pull away.
They have other options? Like being taken over by an infestation of Muslims? Good call on their part retard
 
They're going with other options wherever possible, and will continue to pull away.
Pulling away is to be expected in response to trump continuing to isolate us from our former allies. We've become an adversary. A country to be feared, not trusted.
 
Pulling away is to be expected in response to trump continuing to isolate us from our former allies. We've become an adversary. A country to be feared, not trusted.
Feared to make other countries contribute to protect themselves, trusted to do their fighting for them?

Yeah I’m ok with being feared over trusted then
 
I have family in Europe, and we do a weekly Zoom call. They constantly ask me about this, and it's been interesting seeing their view evolve just like ours did. Joking and mockery at first, then the understanding of the damage he's doing. A sense of mourning.

Also, they've gone from feeling bad for America to saying, "well, America voted him in". And now that he's affecting them, he's on essentially the same level as Putin for them. America is now an untrustworthy, militaristic, predator nation.

And worst of all, the trust is broken. They gave us a pass on Trump when we elected Biden, but all bets are off now. They're going with other options wherever possible, and will continue to pull away.
Europe is in decline and we have no need of Europe anymore. They need us our markets and manufacturing is fleeing Europe to come to America. Whats killing Europe, renewable energy, socialism, immigration by Muslims, high taxes, 3rd rate healthcare.
 
The "diplomatic morons" pushed the worthless JCPOA and even gave Iran $56,000,000,000 not to develop nukes.
I really do wish you'd stop repeating those lies. But as is the case with all trumples I can see you find the facts completely unpersuasive.
 
He had to get out, and we knew he'd claim a huge victory no matter what. And we knew he'd have to blame someone for anything that wasn't "perfect", so he's blaming Europe.

This time, it's not just Americans who see the scam. The whole world sees it, our credibility is destroyed, and we have now given away our title of "Leader of the Free World". Right now, such a person/country doesn't exist.

80 years of building trust and leadership down the toilet. Even MAGA mouthpieces see it now. Only the true mindless cult remains.
Screw those white trash colonist bitches in Western Europe. What they live off of due to subjugating other parts of the world is disgusting. Patooey I say.
 
I really do wish you'd stop repeating those lies. But as is the case with all trumples I can see you find the facts completely unpersuasive.
So you think you can make deal with religious fanatics who murdered 35000 of their own people and have an offensive not defensive nuclear policy. Maybe Obama wasnt the dumbest president in my life time. Biden has an excuse he has brain damage. Whats your excuse
 
A friend of mine just got back from a trip to Portugal. She said a number of residents asked her what is going on in America. It made me wonder how I would answer that question. How to boil down all the complexities in to a simple answer. If pressed to only use one word it would either be demagogue or cult.
I was with your friend in Portugal, no such thing happened as you invented it.
 
I really do wish you'd stop repeating those lies. But as is the case with all trumples I can see you find the facts completely unpersuasive.
For the 90th time, Jack Lew, US Treasury Secretary, under oath...
Then U.S. Treasury Secretary Jack Lew told Congress in July 2015 that Iran gained access to $56 billion via the agreement, a fact check by PolitiFact in 2018 noted.
 
and even gave Iran $56,000,000,000 not to develop nukes.
That assertion is not supported by this............https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2018/apr/27/donald-trump/donald-trump-iran-150-billion-and-18-billion-c/

It's odd that you think it is. Unless you didn't read the info in your own link.
 
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I have family in Europe, and we do a weekly Zoom call. They constantly ask me about this, and it's been interesting seeing their view evolve just like ours did. Joking and mockery at first, then the understanding of the damage he's doing. A sense of mourning.

Also, they've gone from feeling bad for America to saying, "well, America voted him in". And now that he's affecting them, he's on essentially the same level as Putin for them. America is now an untrustworthy, militaristic, predator nation.

And worst of all, the trust is broken. They gave us a pass on Trump when we elected Biden, but all bets are off now. They're going with other options wherever possible, and will continue to pull away.
Europeans are white colonizers who live off the rest of the planet. You know that they must be genocided from your agendas. Now you are backtracking. You have convinced people from central and south America with white DNA in the that the people of the United States are colonizers. We have the chance to end them now.
 
They'll call it "fake news". That's the rule.
"Fake news" has become a substitute for trumples closing their eyes and sticking their fingers in their ears. It's a mechanism for reality avoidance.
 
They'll call it "fake news". That's the rule.
If Trump has psyche issues, then you must change up. His personality is to be seen and heard a few hours a day. And you spend 24 hours a day vilifying him. You are adding fuel to the fire. So outside interference must be curbed and pushing agendas for America first must return and you have to go with it. There is not going to e 25th amendment removal of him. You asses with Joe set this up.
 
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