This Must End

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

All different immigration statuses.

Keep lying to yourself.

 

[Unkotare]

Keep lying to yourself.

I don’t have to. Unlike you, it appears.

 

[Unkotare]

That is bullshit. Before you learned Calculus, were you "too lazy" to learn Calculus, or had you just not learned it yet?

Not yet mastering a language is not an indication of no interest or effort toward learning it. Use your head.

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[Unkotare]

It sure seems like a lot of people have a lot of assumptions and misconceptions about the process and experience of acquiring another language. I don't mean the two years of French you took in high school, or those bullshit "Learn Any Language in Two Weeks!" scams. I mean really acquiring a language that you need to survive and thrive in an environment where the target language is the dominant means of communication in that location and cultural milieu. This is a lifelong challenge that proceeds at a pace determined by many factors in one's life and environment. So, someone who has not yet mastered a language is NOT "lazy," or "refusing to learn the language." Walk a mile in those shoes...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I

I don’t have to. Unlike you, it appears.

I am telling you your statistics may apply to your district, but they are far from typical in the rest of the US.

 

[Unkotare]

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I am telling you your statistics may apply to your district, but they are far from typical in the rest of the US.

Yes, it is. I have been working closely with immigrant populations (not just making a few cold calls like some aluminum siding salesman) for over two decades.

 

[Mac-7]

Upon what pedagogical training, expertise or experience do you base your opinions?

Off hand I would guess he bases it on common sense

We need a common language

 

[Mac-7]

Damn. What a waste.

Why

The children were Americans

What use was speaking german to them?

 

[Mac-7]

In the story you told, she could.

She did not speak english very well or an average American would understand her

 

[Unkotare]

Off hand I would guess he bases it on common sense

We need a common language

English is and will remain the dominant language in the US. We have never had an official national language, and we never will.

 

[Unkotare]

She did not speak english [sic] very well or an average American would understand her

Many Americans don't have much experience in communicating - even in English - with non-native speakers of English. A lot of people everywhere are lazy and impatient. Communication is (at least) a two-way street.

 

[Mac-7]

English is and will remain the dominant language in the US. We have never had an official national language, and we never will.

I said common language

And that language should be english

 

[Unkotare]

I said common language

And that language should be english

If by "common" you mean no one else ever speaks anything else, you are delusional.

 

[Mac-7]

If by "common" you mean no one else ever speaks anything else, you are delusional.

I dont mean that

So even by your standards I am not delusional

I mean “common” such as two strangers speaking the same language so that they can understand each other

 

[Unkotare]

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I mean “common” such as two strangers speaking the same language so that they can understand each other

we have that now.

 

[Mac-7]

we have that now.

Only if immigrants learn English

 

[Unkotare]

Only if immigrants learn English

Two strangers may both speak a language other than English.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yes, it is. I have been working closely with immigrant populations (not just making a few cold calls like some aluminum siding salesman) for over two decades.

A few? I average almost 200 calls per night. I am sorry that you can't see the errors in your assumptions.

 

[Unkotare]

A few? I average almost 200 calls per night. ........

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I am glad you can laugh at your own ignorance!