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Majority of Soldiers Say Iraq Morale Low

WASHINGTON - A majority of U.S. soldiers in Iraq say morale is low, according to an Army report that finds psychological stress is weighing particularly heavily on National Guard and Reserve troops.

Still, soldiers' mental health has improved from the early months of the insurgency, and suicides have declined sharply, the report said. Also, substantially fewer soldiers had to be evacuated from Iraq for mental health problems last year.

The Army sent a team of mental health specialists to Iraq and Kuwait late last summer to assess conditions and measure progress in implementing programs designed to fix mental health problems discovered during a similar survey of troops a year earlier. Its report, dated Jan. 30, 2005, was released Wednesday.

The initial inquiry was triggered in part by an unusual surge in suicides among soldiers in Iraq in July 2003. Wednesday's report said the number of suicides in Iraq and Kuwait declined from 24 in 2003 to nine last year.

A suicide prevention program was begun for soldiers in Iraq at the recommendation of the 2003 assessment team.

The overall assessment said 13 percent of soldiers in the most recent study screened positive for a mental health problem, compared with 18 percent a year earlier. Symptoms of acute or post-traumatic stress remained the top mental health problem, affecting at least 10 percent of all soldiers checked in the latest survey.

In the anonymous survey, 17 percent of soldiers said they had experienced moderate or severe stress or problems with alcohol, emotions or their families. That compares with 23 percent a year earlier.

The report said reasons for the improvement in mental health are not clear. Among possible explanations: less frequent and less intense combat, more comforts like air conditioning, wider access to mental health services and improved training in handling the stresses associated with deployments and combat.

National Guard and Reserve soldiers who serve in transportation and support units suffered more than others from depression, anxiety and other indications of acute psychological stress, the report said. These soldiers have often been targets of the insurgents' lethal ambushes and roadside bombs, although the report said they had significantly fewer actual combat experiences than soldiers assigned to combat units.

The report recommended that the Army reconsider whether National Guard and Reserve support troops are getting adequate training in combat skills. Even though they do less fighting than combat troops, they might be better suited to cope with wartime stress if they had more confidence in their combat skills, it said.

Only 55 percent of National Guard support soldiers said they have "real confidence" in their unit's ability to perform its mission, compared with 63 percent of active-duty Army support soldiers. And only 28 percent of the Guard troops rated their level of training as high, compared with 50 percent of their active-duty counterparts.

Small focus groups were held to ascertain troop morale.

The report said 54 percent of soldiers rated their units' morale as low or very low. The comparable figure in a year-earlier Army survey was 72 percent. Although respondents said "combat stressors" like mortar attacks were higher in the most recent survey, "noncombat stressors" like uncertain tour lengths were much lower, the report said.

The thing that bothered soldiers the most, the latest assessment said, was the length of their required stay in Iraq. At the start of the war, most were deployed for six months, but now they go for 12 months.

Asked about this, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told a Pentagon news conference that the Army's 12-month requirement is linked in part to its effort to complete a fundamental reorganization of fighting units.

"I've tried to get the Army to look at the length of tours and I think at some point down the road they will," he said.



http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050720/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/iraq_us_military_health_4
 
One year tours have been the norm for some time now.... whether during the Korean War, Vietnam, or this one... tours along the Korean DMZ are one year tours too. Why should it change now?
 
-Cp said:
Majority of Soldiers Say Iraq Morale Low

WASHINGTON - A majority of U.S. soldiers in Iraq say morale is low, according to an Army report that finds psychological stress is weighing particularly heavily on National Guard and Reserve troops.

Still, soldiers' mental health has improved from the early months of the insurgency, and suicides have declined sharply, the report said. Also, substantially fewer soldiers had to be evacuated from Iraq for mental health problems last year.

The Army sent a team of mental health specialists to Iraq and Kuwait late last summer to assess conditions and measure progress in implementing programs designed to fix mental health problems discovered during a similar survey of troops a year earlier. Its report, dated Jan. 30, 2005, was released Wednesday.

The initial inquiry was triggered in part by an unusual surge in suicides among soldiers in Iraq in July 2003. Wednesday's report said the number of suicides in Iraq and Kuwait declined from 24 in 2003 to nine last year.

A suicide prevention program was begun for soldiers in Iraq at the recommendation of the 2003 assessment team.

The overall assessment said 13 percent of soldiers in the most recent study screened positive for a mental health problem, compared with 18 percent a year earlier. Symptoms of acute or post-traumatic stress remained the top mental health problem, affecting at least 10 percent of all soldiers checked in the latest survey.

In the anonymous survey, 17 percent of soldiers said they had experienced moderate or severe stress or problems with alcohol, emotions or their families. That compares with 23 percent a year earlier.

The report said reasons for the improvement in mental health are not clear. Among possible explanations: less frequent and less intense combat, more comforts like air conditioning, wider access to mental health services and improved training in handling the stresses associated with deployments and combat.

National Guard and Reserve soldiers who serve in transportation and support units suffered more than others from depression, anxiety and other indications of acute psychological stress, the report said. These soldiers have often been targets of the insurgents' lethal ambushes and roadside bombs, although the report said they had significantly fewer actual combat experiences than soldiers assigned to combat units.

The report recommended that the Army reconsider whether National Guard and Reserve support troops are getting adequate training in combat skills. Even though they do less fighting than combat troops, they might be better suited to cope with wartime stress if they had more confidence in their combat skills, it said.

Only 55 percent of National Guard support soldiers said they have "real confidence" in their unit's ability to perform its mission, compared with 63 percent of active-duty Army support soldiers. And only 28 percent of the Guard troops rated their level of training as high, compared with 50 percent of their active-duty counterparts.

Small focus groups were held to ascertain troop morale.

The report said 54 percent of soldiers rated their units' morale as low or very low. The comparable figure in a year-earlier Army survey was 72 percent. Although respondents said "combat stressors" like mortar attacks were higher in the most recent survey, "noncombat stressors" like uncertain tour lengths were much lower, the report said.

The thing that bothered soldiers the most, the latest assessment said, was the length of their required stay in Iraq. At the start of the war, most were deployed for six months, but now they go for 12 months.

Asked about this, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told a Pentagon news conference that the Army's 12-month requirement is linked in part to its effort to complete a fundamental reorganization of fighting units.

"I've tried to get the Army to look at the length of tours and I think at some point down the road they will," he said.



http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050720/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/iraq_us_military_health_4

Sounds to me like the data is real old in this. Wonder what their sources were? They don't really reveal.
 
Kathianne said:
Sounds to me like the data is real old in this. Wonder what their sources were? They don't really reveal.
Good question. All I have been hearing from soldiers over there, military blogs, etc. is that the moral is pretty damn good.
 
Seems as if the info in the report just released is from LAST summer.

The Army sent a team of mental health specialists to Iraq and Kuwait late last summer to assess conditions and measure progress in implementing programs designed to fix mental health problems discovered during a similar survey of troops a year earlier. Its report, dated Jan. 30, 2005, was released Wednesday.
 
freeandfun1 said:
Seems as if the info in the report just released is from LAST summer.

I understood that, just a lot has changed. Most of what I'm seeing from active duty posters says the opposit. It may be the nature of the posters though.
 
Kathianne said:
I understood that, just a lot has changed. Most of what I'm seeing from active duty posters says the opposit. It may be the nature of the posters though.
Please clarify... you're see they do have low moral or don't? Most of the guys I have been communicating with are in infantry units and those guys tend to always have good moral as long as they are keeping busy hunting the bad guys. They get low on moral when they are sitting in the rear doing nothing.
 
freeandfun1 said:
Please clarify... you're see they do have low moral or don't? Most of the guys I have been communicating with are in infantry units and those guys tend to always have good moral as long as they are keeping busy hunting the bad guys. They get low on moral when they are sitting in the rear doing nothing.

Without exception all that I'm reading are very pro-Iraq and where they are headed. The does not preclude those that are missing home, but those are infrequent and expected posts. Most of the folks I read are hunting the bad guys, fixing the good and bad guys, or helping out Iraqis on many levels. Just look for milbloggers and you'll find more than you can keep up with.
 
Kathianne said:
Without exception all that I'm reading are very pro-Iraq and where they are headed. The does not preclude those that are missing home, but those are infrequent and expected posts. Most of the folks I read are hunting the bad guys, fixing the good and bad guys, or helping out Iraqis on many levels. Just look for milbloggers and you'll find more than you can keep up with.
Thought that is what you meant! Yes, I am reading the same. Overall, they are proud of what they are doing
 
The question of the day is .. why is morale low?

Probably because most of the them do not want to be there. And they don't enjoy being sitting ducks.
And I seriously doubt the U.S. military allows anti-war blogging in Iraq.
 
Gabriella84 said:
The question of the day is .. why is morale low?

Probably because most of the them do not want to be there. And they don't enjoy being sitting ducks.
And I seriously doubt the U.S. military allows anti-war blogging in Iraq.
Believe it or not, they can write what they want. Stop being such a moron. Have you ever served? How do you know what they are allowed to write and what they aren't?

The point is, moral ISN'T low except in a few isolated cases. That is the case no matter what conditions the soldiers are serving in. No matter if it is war time or not. You haven't a clue what you are talking about. Nice try though.
 
http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0707/p02s01-woiq.htm

Troop morale in Iraq hits 'rock bottom'

Soldiers stress is a key concern as the Army ponders whether to send more forces.

By Ann Scott Tyson | Special to The Christian Science Monitor

WASHINGTON - US troops facing extended deployments amid the danger, heat, and uncertainty of an Iraq occupation are suffering from low morale that has in some cases hit "rock bottom."

Even as President Bush speaks of a "massive and long-term" undertaking in rebuilding Iraq, that effort, as well as the high tempo of US military operations around the globe, is taking its toll on individual troops.

Some frustrated troops stationed in Iraq are writing letters to representatives in Congress to request their units be repatriated. "Most soldiers would empty their bank accounts just for a plane ticket home," said one recent Congressional letter written by an Army soldier now based in Iraq. The soldier requested anonymity.

In some units, there has been an increase in letters from the Red Cross stating soldiers are needed at home, as well as daily instances of female troops being sent home due to pregnancy.

"Make no mistake, the level of morale for most soldiers that I've seen has hit rock bottom," said another soldier, an officer from the Army's 3rd Infantry Division in Iraq.

Such open grumbling among troops comes as US commanders reevaluate the size and composition of the US-led coalition force needed to occupy Iraq. US Central Command, which is leading the occupation, is expected by mid-July to send a proposal to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld on how many and what kind of troops are required, as well as on the rotation of forces there.

For soldiers, a life on the road

The rethink about troop levels comes as senior military leaders voice concern that multiple deployments around the world are already taxing the endurance of US forces, the Army in particular. Some 370,000 soldiers are now deployed overseas from an Army active-duty, guard, and reserve force of just over 1 million people, according to Army figures.

Experts warn that long, frequent deployments could lead to a rash of departures from the military. "Hordes of active-duty troops and reservists may soon leave the service rather than subject themselves to a life continually on the road," writes Michael O'Hanlon, a military expert at the Brookings Institution here.

A major Army study is now under way to examine the impact of this high pace of operations on the mental health of soldiers and families. "The cumulative effect of these work hours and deployment and training are big issues, and soldiers are concerned about it," says Col. Charles Hoge, who is leading the survey of 5,000 to 10,000 soldiers for the Walter Reed Institute of Army Research.

Concern over stressed troops is not new. In the late 1990s, a shrinking of military manpower combined with a rise in overseas missions prompted Congress to call for sharp pay increases for troops deployed over a certain number of days.

"But then came September 11 and the operational tempo went off the charts" and the Congressional plan was suspended, according to Ed Bruner, an expert on ground forces at the Congressional Research Service here.

Adding manpower to the region

Despite Pentagon statements before the war that the goal of US forces was to "liberate, not occupy" Iraq, Secretary Rumsfeld warned last week that the war against terrorists in Iraq and elsewhere "will not be over any time soon."

Currently, there are some 230,000 US troops serving in and around Iraq, including nearly 150,000 US troops inside Iraq and 12,000 from Britain and other countries. According to the Pentagon, the number of foreign troops is expected to rise to 20,000 by September. Fresh foreign troops began flowing into Iraq this month, part of two multinational forces led by Poland and Britain. A third multinational force is also under consideration.

A crucial factor in determining troop levels are the daily attacks that have killed more than 30 US and British servicemen in Iraq since Mr. Bush declared on May 1 that major combat operations had ended.

The unexpected degree of resistance led the Pentagon to increase US ground troops in Iraq to mount a series of ongoing raids aimed at confiscating weapons and capturing opposition forces.

A tour of duty with no end in sight
As new US troops flowed into Iraq, others already in the region for several months, such as the 20,000-strong 3rd Infantry Division were retained in Iraq.

"Faced with continued resistance, Department of Defense now plans to keep a larger force in Iraq than anticipated for a period of time," Maj. Gen. Buford Blount, commander of the 3rd Infantry Division, explained in a statement to families a month ago. "I appreciate the turmoil and stress that a continued deployment has caused," he added.

The open-ended deployments in Iraq are lowering morale among some ground troops, who say constantly shifting time tables are reducing confidence in their leadership. "The way we have been treated and the continuous lies told to our families back home has devastated us all," a soldier in Iraq wrote in a letter to Congress.

Security threats, heat, harsh living conditions, and, for some soldiers, waiting and boredom have gradually eroded spirits. An estimated 9,000 troops from the 3rd Infantry Division - most deployed for at least six months and some for more than a year - have been waiting for several weeks, without a mission, to return to the United States, officers say.

In one Army unit, an officer described the mentality of troops. "They vent to anyone who will listen. They write letters, they cry, they yell. Many of them walk around looking visibly tired and depressed.... We feel like pawns in a game that we have no voice [in]."
 
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Gabriella84 said:
The question of the day is .. why is morale low?

Probably because most of the them do not want to be there. And they don't enjoy being sitting ducks.
And I seriously doubt the U.S. military allows anti-war blogging in Iraq.

You have no clue as to what you are talking about here.

Most of them DO want to be there and they sure as hell dont feel like sitting ducks. The basis for my statements and source of my information: Myself as a senior leader for over 3,500 soldiers who have been there and back and my two sons, one of which is a senior leader responsible for hundreds of soldiers as well and a the other a mid level leader. NOT ONE soldier we were responsible for ever expressed the idea that they were sitting ducks. Over 75% of them have openly stated their desire to go back.

I defy anyone to show me a population center of over 150,000 that has a suicide rate lower than 24 in a year...or indications of high stress lower than has been shown in the study cited here... by the way, the population has to be under highly stressful conditions like isolated from family and under the threat of extreme physical harm.....
 
Gabriella84 said:
The question of the day is .. why is morale low?

Probably because most of the them do not want to be there. And they don't enjoy being sitting ducks.
And I seriously doubt the U.S. military allows anti-war blogging in Iraq.

We've been here, done this before. Re-enlistment rates are Up. Why do you think that is? What do they KNOW that you don't?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?p=309519#post309519
 
Washington Post
July 21, 2005
Pg. 19

Survey: Morale Improving Among Soldiers In Iraq

Army's Mental Health Efforts Have Ameliorated Conditions, but Concerns Remain

By Josh White and Ann Scott Tyson, Washington Post Staff Writers

Morale among U.S. soldiers in Iraq has improved since the start of the war in 2003, and the soldiers' suicide rate dropped by more than half last year, according to an Army mental health survey released yesterday.

The Army's second Mental Health Advisory Team report paints an improving picture of how soldiers are handling their tours and how medical personnel are dealing with mental health problems. The team surveyed more than 2,000 soldiers from last August to October, and concluded that aggressive efforts to improve mental health care and to make soldiers aware of combat stresses have been successful.

A majority of soldiers fighting in Iraq, however, reported that morale is still a problem, with 54 percent saying that their unit morale is "low" or "very low," and only 9 percent reporting "high" or "very high" morale. During the first survey in late summer 2003, 72 percent of soldiers reported low morale.

The survey also reported that when soldiers were asked about their own morale -- as distinct from their unit's morale -- there was marked improvement from 2003 to 2004: 52 percent described their morale as low or very low in the first survey, and that number dropped to 36 percent in 2004.

"There have been substantial improvements made in the quality of life in theater, particularly access to air conditioned sleeping quarters, better facilities . . . better food and [dining facilities], and improved communication home through telephone and e-mail," according to the report, dated Jan. 30, 2005. "These likely help buffer the negative effects of combat."

The Army's Medical Command also has greatly increased the number of mental health professionals in the field. Acute or post-traumatic stress symptoms, for example, were still relatively prevalent problems -- affecting 10 percent of soldiers -- down from 15 percent in 2003.



http://ebird.afis.mil/ebfiles/e20050721380692.html

More recent information than that posted from the CSmonitor article of 2003.
 
MIT combats campus' unusually high suicide rate

By Jen Tutak

The Dartmouth (Dartmouth College)
01/31/2002

MIT combats campus' unusually high suicide rate


(U-WIRE) HANOVER, N.H. -- Criticized for having one of the highest collegiate suicide rates in the country, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology has forged ahead with an aggressive campaign to review its mental health policy and cope with the growing national trend of young adult suicide.
At MIT, 11 students have committed suicide since 1990, 10 of them undergraduates. With an undergraduate population of 4,400, that figure puts the MIT suicide rate among the highest in the country, or about twice the national average for college-aged students.

Most recently, MIT has come under attack from the parents of suicide victim Elizabeth Shin, a sophomore who set herself on fire two years ago following romantic and academic troubles. On Friday they announced plans to sue MIT for neglecting their daughter's health and not alerting them to her problems.

MIT has denied responsibility for Shin's death and will fight the claim.

But recognizing a heightened demand for mental health care, MIT's Chancellor, Undergraduate Association and Mental Health Service departments created a mental health task force in November to extensively research the current help available and recommend improvements.

The task force -- composed of doctors, administrators, professors, undergraduates, graduates and other members of the MIT community -- conducted a random survey of students, focusing on the increased use of the university's mental health care facilities.

Seventy-four percent of students who responded to the survey had encountered an emotional problem that interfered with their daily activities, but only 28 percent of them had used the campus mental health service.

Two-thirds of those who sought MIT counseling rated their care as satisfactory to excellent, but 35 percent of respondents reported waiting 10 days or more for an initial appointment, and only half said they would recommend the center to friends.

The task force also discovered a dramatic spike in demand for mental health service, both at MIT and at universities across the nation.

At MIT alone, about 50 percent more students sought help in 2000 than in 1995. Because the size of the MIT mental health service remained the same, the task force immediately recommended increasing the staff and offering evening office hours. Moreover, students were not always aware of the campus resources and had to go out of their way to seek help.

As a result, task force recommendations include a comprehensive three-to-five year social marketing campaign to ensure students feel comfortable asking for counseling, as well as a second mental health outreach and education program to raise awareness.

"The student reaction that we got was remarkably positive from every direction. People were happy that this issue was finally being addressed," said Efrat Shavit, one of the chairs of the task force. "Having student leadership involved in upper levels really gave the students confidence in the recommendations and that their needs and concerns were being addressed."

Shavit emphasized that MIT's mental health services had not been bad before the creation of the task force; the university had realized, however, that there was room for growth and improvement.

Shavit's co-chair, Dr. Kristine Girard, associate chief of mental health in the MIT medical department, also praised the work of the task force and defended the university against media scrutiny and criticisms that MIT has a staggering suicide rate.

"If you look at the student body, the suicide rate is not out of keeping with other universities. It's about one per year per 10,000 students, which is not out of keeping for the age range," Girard said, referring to MIT's combined undergraduate and graduate populations.

Girard cited a number of reasons why mental health problems and suicide attempts have risen at universities. She explained that whereas students with mental health problems may not have been able to attend college in the past, many are now matriculating with the help of medical treatment. However, once at college, students are susceptible to falling out of or discontinuing treatment.

"It's a national trend; it's not unique to MIT," she said. "There are more students who are asking for treatment, but also there's a higher level of the intensity of the care that the students are requiring now."

The National Institute of Mental Health reports that the suicide rate in young people has increased dramatically over the last several decades, with over 90 percent of suicide victims experiencing a serious psychiatric illness at the time of their death.

One junior at MIT, who wished to remain anonymous, reflected on the suicides that had occurred during his first two years at MIT.

"We all understood what type of pressure that the people felt, although most of us didn't understand how they let the pressure get to them. Maybe we were lucky that we had the friends and support networks that we had, and if we had been less social or more closed emotionally, it could happen to us," he said.

"I wouldn't say that suicide is accepted, but I also wouldn't say that it surprises us anymore. It just comes with the territory," he told The Dartmouth. "We are one of the hardest schools in the country, we are all stressed out, some people just aren't going to be able to deal with that pressure."

Having visited the MIT mental health service himself to cope with stress, the student said the center was helpful but sorely understaffed, and that he had a long wait for an appointment.

"Now that the mental health task force has come into order, there are more posters around campus, and more people are talking about it, which is very important to the task force. If nobody knows about it, it will not do any good to the overall student community," he said.

Shavit said colleges need to start facing up to the reality of student depression.

"It's time that this bubble of secrecy be burst. Universities have swept these problems under the rug for decades, and it's time for them to follow in MIT's footsteps, to take the cue and address these issues," Shavit said. "If we have 100 universities addressing this, instead of one or two, we're going to find solutions quicker. It's time, and I think other people are starting to realize that."


Based on the above, it would appear that some posters to this board should be advocating the closure of many institutions of higher learning. They are obviously harmful to the youth of America....am I right, Gabby?
 
Most institutions of higher learning are not Dartmouth or MIT.
And I don't recall having been shot at over the last three years I have been at Cal.
 

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