This is why the Department of Education needs to go.

[CrazyTrader55]

Don’t like the education our students receive?
Go to a local School Board meeting

Don’t blame the Feds

I have better things to do - like watch paint dry! We are responsible as parents for our own children's learning, that's the bottom line. Kids attitude on school is going to shaped by the parenting they receive. Bad parenting = bad results, no matter how much money you throw at the problem.

 

[rightwinger]

I have better things to do - like watch paint dry! We are responsible as parents for our own children's learning, that's the bottom line. Kids attitude on school is going to shaped by the parenting they receive. Bad parenting = bad results, no matter how much money you throw at the problem.

Agree

 

[CrazyTrader55]

Agree

Lack of two parents in the ghetto areas = lack of learning = nothing ever changes. Again, no matter how much money you give the teachers unions. Fix the root cause - or don't even bother.

 

[protectionist]

Actually they are not

They are firing people first
The people in DOGE are not subject matter experts or efficiency experts. They don’t know what they are looking at.

They know. It's not hard to ascertain the NGO goofball things that past administrations have been recklessly pumping US tax $$ into.
Democrat slush funds galore. Democrats pocketing big bucks$$$ which were intending to help poor people.

One of the worst examples was the Billions intended for Haitians, after the natural disasters there, and Haitian officials claim their people got less than 10% of it. Almost all went into the pockets of the Clintons and their smokescreen "foundation"

And as usual, when someone with esteem, was set to testify against the Clintons and their joke "foundation", they killed him >>

Klaus Eberwein​

Haitian government official​

Died: July 14, 2017​

Just days before Eberwein was due to appear before the Haitian Senate Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission where he was widely expected to testify that the Clinton Foundation misappropriated Haiti earthquake donations from international donors, he was found dead in a Miami hotel of a gunshot to the head. Ruled a suicide. Eberwein, who had acknowledged his life was in danger, was a fierce critic of the Clinton Foundation's activities in the Caribbean island, where he served as director general of the government's economic development agency, Fonds d'assistance �conomique et social, for three years.

 

[rightwinger]

They know. It's not hard to ascertain the NGO goofball things that past administrations have been recklessly pumping US tax $$ into.
Democrat slush funds galore. Democrats pocketing big bucks$$$ which were intending to help poor people.

You are just making shit up

 

[protectionist]

You are just making shit up

Oh so you claim that >>>
1. Klaus Eberwein was not due to appear before the Haitian Senate Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission where he was widely expected to testify that the Clinton Foundation misappropriated Haiti earthquake donations from international donors. ?
2. that he was not found dead in a Miami hotel of a gunshot to the head. ?
3. that Eberwein, had acknowledged his life was in danger, & was a fierce critic of the Clinton Foundation's activities in the Caribbean island, where he served as director general of the government's economic development agency, Fonds d'assistance �conomique et social, for three years ?

You think I made all this up ? Pheeeew!

 

[rightwinger]

Oh so you claim that >>>
1. Klaus Eberwein was not due to appear before the Haitian Senate Ethics and Anti-Corruption Commission where he was widely expected to testify that the Clinton Foundation misappropriated Haiti earthquake donations from international donors. ?
2. that he was not found dead in a Miami hotel of a gunshot to the head. ?
3. that Eberwein, had acknowledged his life was in danger, & was a fierce critic of the Clinton Foundation's activities in the Caribbean island, where he served as director general of the government's economic development agency, Fonds d'assistance �conomique et social, for three years ?

You think I made all this up ? Pheeeew!

Not engaging in your fantasies

If a crime was committed, show me a prosecution

 

[protectionist]

Not engaging in your fantasies

If a crime was committed, show me a prosecution

I made a slight mistake, The Haitian people didn't get 10% of USAID. They got 2%.

For some strange reason, I'm unable to copy/paste the parargraph that explains only 2% of USAID $$$ going to Haitians, but click the link,

Where Does the Money Go? Eight Years of USAID Funding in Haiti

cepr.net

and it is the paragragh right above this pie chart which begins with the words > "The majority of US assistance to Haiti...."

 

[protectionist]

Not engaging in your fantasies

If a crime was committed, show me a prosecution

And prosecutions don't happen, when the critical witness(es) get bumped off.

Klaus Eberwein​

Haitian government official​

Died: July 14, 2017, of a gunshot to the head, just before he was due to testify against the Clintons

 

[LeftofLeft]

WTF?

The education those kids received was provided by local government and states.
The Dept of Education is not responsible for hiring teachers or curriculum.

Looks like we need more Federal Education not less

Great. Please show US the plans at the Federal for improving the paltry math and reading proficiency levels for the US because all I’ve seen are CRT, DEI, Restorative Justice, and LBGTQ priorities.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Shocking! Where has all of the money gone?
How many Senators are there? Answer: 7

Now ask which states they came from.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

Now ask which states they came from.

It came out of every taxpayer's pocket, buddy.

We're paying for a department of education to ensure that our schools are turning out a bunch of morons.

 

[Zincwarrior]

What, exactly, IS the department of education responsible for?

Student loans. Financial aid to states and districts for K-12 education.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

Student loans. Financial aid to states and districts for K-12 education.

Student loans. ROFL. I'll bet you 1/3 to 1/2 of those kids shouldn't be going to college in the first place.

 

[Zincwarrior]

It came out of every taxpayer's pocket, buddy.

We're paying for a department of education to ensure that our schools are turning out a bunch of morons.

You're jinking. Which state taught this lovely standard of education? The Dept of Education never taught a single person.

 

[CrazyTrader55]

You're jinking. Which state taught this lovely standard of education? The Dept of Education never taught a single person.

So your argument is, don't hold the DOE responsible, they didn't do anything wrong. Got it.

 

[rightwinger]

Great. Please show US the plans at the Federal for improving the paltry math and reading proficiency levels for the US because all I’ve seen are CRT, DEI, Restorative Justice, and LBGTQ priorities.

Not their job….It should be like in most other industrialized countries

It is your local school system screwing up math and reading proficiency and you want to give them more to do.

 

[Zincwarrior]

So your argument is, don't hold the DOE responsible, they didn't do anything wrong. Got it.

I do not hold the Department of Energy responsible.

I also do not hold the Dept. of Education responsible. Again, they have not taught any student.

What Does the Department of Education Actually Do?​

What Does the Department of Education Actually Do?

Here's a look at the history of the Department of Education and what it actually does.

time.com

What does the Department of Education do?​

The Department of Education has many different and varied responsibilities under its current formation and governs many offices including the Federal Student Aid (FSA), Institute of Education Sciences (IES), Office for Civil Rights (OCR), and the Office of Special Education and Rehabilitative Services (OSERS).

Under the FSA, the Education Department manages the $1.693 trillion outstanding federal student loan balance, as well several student aid programs like the Pell Grant and work study. The department is the largest source of loans for college students.

The department also provides 13.6% of funding for public K-12 education, according to the Education Data Initiative, sending funding streams that include Title I—which describes federal allocation of supplemental financial assistance to school districts/schools with a high percentage of children from low-income families—as well as grants under IDEA (Individuals with Disabilities Education Act), providing money to districts to serve and teach students with disabilities, and grants for things like adult rehabilitation services.

The department collects data on education facilities nationwide, and enforces non-discrimination and civil rights laws in federally funded schools, including Title VI and Title IX.

Collins pointed out that Title I, Title IX, and programs at the federal level create an equalizing factor that helps to cut through education inequalities between states, creating “incentives for continuity.”

“This is the problem of pursuing so much responsibility and discretion at the state level,” he said. “The potential danger [with dismantling the Department] is that you're putting a lot of responsibility on the backs of these education agencies across states that are already strapped when it comes to their capacity, and you're creating an environment where [a person’s] educational experience will become heavily dependent on the state they live in”

 

[rightwinger]

Trump will eventually be told that he can’t dismantle the Dept of Education

By then, he will have done too much damage for it to recover.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Not their job….It should be like in most other industrialized countries

It is your local school system screwing up math and reading proficiency and you want to give them more to do.

Ok, so what is the job or value at the Federal level if not math, reading, analytical skills, and critical thinking? If anything that is giving them more to do it is the social engineering and indoctrination mandates.