This is what life under democrat rule looks like

[Blues Man]

What violations? Stop and Frisk was found to be Constitutional.

It was also about following through on prosecutions for petty crimes.

NYPD's Tactic Was Unconstitutional​

Although a stop-and-frisk can be legal, Judge Scheindlin found that the way NYPD officers conducted them "demonstrated widespread disregard for the Fourth Amendment" as well as equal protection of the law, reports The New York Times.

The NYPD violated many residents' Fourth Amendment rights by either performing a stop-and-frisk without reasonable suspicion or exceeding the limits of their brief frisks without having additional probable cause to search.

What Is Stop-and-Frisk? Is It Ever Legal? - FindLaw

The stop-and-frisk tactics of the NYPD were halted Monday by a federal judge's ruling that the practice violated the constitutional rights of those who were targeted, mainly minorities. Calling the New York Police Department's practice a "policy of indirect racial profiling," Judge Shira A...

www.findlaw.com

 

[Blues Man]

They just didn't stop random people, they stopped people acting in a way to warrant a search.

It was found constitutional.

What Is Stop-and-Frisk? Is It Ever Legal? - FindLaw

The stop-and-frisk tactics of the NYPD were halted Monday by a federal judge's ruling that the practice violated the constitutional rights of those who were targeted, mainly minorities. Calling the New York Police Department's practice a "policy of indirect racial profiling," Judge Shira A...

www.findlaw.com

NYPD's Tactic Was Unconstitutional​

Although a stop-and-frisk can be legal, Judge Scheindlin found that the way NYPD officers conducted them "demonstrated widespread disregard for the Fourth Amendment" as well as equal protection of the law, reports The New York Times.

The NYPD violated many residents' Fourth Amendment rights by either performing a stop-and-frisk without reasonable suspicion or exceeding the limits of their brief frisks without having additional probable cause to search.

 

[struth]

Demafasicst allowing no-bail for violent criminals is a clear and present danger to the United States

 

[Slade3200]

Because we were safer back then, after the hell of the 70's and 80's?

Los Angeles showed similar trends in crime reduction the 90s. So did San Francisco

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What Is Stop-and-Frisk? Is It Ever Legal? - FindLaw

The stop-and-frisk tactics of the NYPD were halted Monday by a federal judge's ruling that the practice violated the constitutional rights of those who were targeted, mainly minorities. Calling the New York Police Department's practice a "policy of indirect racial profiling," Judge Shira A...

www.findlaw.com

NYPD's Tactic Was Unconstitutional​

Although a stop-and-frisk can be legal, Judge Scheindlin found that the way NYPD officers conducted them "demonstrated widespread disregard for the Fourth Amendment" as well as equal protection of the law, reports The New York Times.

The NYPD violated many residents' Fourth Amendment rights by either performing a stop-and-frisk without reasonable suspicion or exceeding the limits of their brief frisks without having additional probable cause to search.

And until that time, a reduction of crime, particularly gun crime saving a lot of black lives. Once they got rid of it, crime went up once again and look at the mess NYC is now.

 

[Blues Man]

Demafasicst allowing no-bail for violent criminals is a clear and present danger to the United States

The fact is that most people in state prisons today have not been convicted of any crime at all but are merely awaiting trial.
We need to address this problem with reasonable bail. It makes no sense to post a bail of a million dollars on a person who makes 30K a year does it?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

No I don't since my statement does not negate proportionality.

Yes, it does. You’re accounting for an increased proportion of crime by an increase in sheer numbers.

 

[Blues Man]

And until that time, a reduction of crime, particularly gun crime saving a lot of black lives. Once they got rid of it, crime went up once again and look at the mess NYC is now.

Yeah too bad our Constitution protects a person against illegal searches and seizures huh?

 

[struth]

The fact is that most people in state prisons today have not been convicted of any crime at all but are merely awaiting trial.
We need to address this problem with reasonable bail. It makes no sense to post a bail of a million dollars on a person who makes 30K a year does it?

people don't await trial in prison...they do at jails.

It depends on what they are charged with.

 

[Blues Man]

Yes, it does. You’re accounting for an increased proportion of crime by an increase in sheer numbers.

That's what proportionality is.

If we know X % of people in a population of size Y will commit crimes then any increase in the value of Y will result in a proportional increase in the number of crimes

 

[Blues Man]

people don't await trial in prison...they do at jails.

It depends on what they are charged with.

A distinction without a difference.

 

[martybegan]

NYPD's Tactic Was Unconstitutional​

Although a stop-and-frisk can be legal, Judge Scheindlin found that the way NYPD officers conducted them "demonstrated widespread disregard for the Fourth Amendment" as well as equal protection of the law, reports The New York Times.

The NYPD violated many residents' Fourth Amendment rights by either performing a stop-and-frisk without reasonable suspicion or exceeding the limits of their brief frisks without having additional probable cause to search.

What Is Stop-and-Frisk? Is It Ever Legal? - FindLaw

The stop-and-frisk tactics of the NYPD were halted Monday by a federal judge's ruling that the practice violated the constitutional rights of those who were targeted, mainly minorities. Calling the New York Police Department's practice a "policy of indirect racial profiling," Judge Shira A...

www.findlaw.com

It was modified, and then a person was appointed to oversee it. Then that judge was removed from the case by the appeals court. The issue, which I find to be bullshit, was the racial aspects of the searches, not the searches themselves. That most victims AND perpetrators were minorities to me made the racial argument moot.

 

[Blues Man]

It was modified, and then a person was appointed to oversee it. Then that judge was removed from the case by the appeals court. The issue, which I find to be bullshit, was the racial aspects of the searches, not the searches themselves. That most victims AND perpetrators were minorities to me made the racial argument moot.

Your opinion doesn't count as far as the law is concerned.

So why aren't they still doing it if it is 100% legal as you claim?

 

[martybegan]

Los Angeles showed similar trends in crime reduction the 90s. So did San Francisco

Not as large or profound as NY did.

 

[martybegan]

Your opinion doesn't count as far as the law is concerned.

So why aren't they still doing it if it is 100% legal as you claim?

Because a bunch of Pussy mayors took over.

 

[Blues Man]

Because a bunch of Pussy mayors took over.

Yeah OK

I bet you'd be the first to complain if you were frisked every time you walked down the street

 

[struth]

A distinction without a difference.

No, they are very different.

 

[martybegan]

Yeah OK

I bet you'd be the first to complain if you were frisked every time you walked down the street

I never did anything to warrant a stop or frisk. Worst I've done is get pulled over for an "NYC stop" at a stop sign and a few tail light outages.

Did get mugged twice in the 90's though in my teens.

 

[Blues Man]

No, they are very different.

People are still locked up without being convicted of any crime.

It really doesn't matter where

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yeah OK

I bet you'd be the first to complain if you were frisked every time you walked down the street

So who got frisked every time they walked down the street? Police know who the troublemakers are in their area. That's who they keep an eye on.