Zone1 This is Probably Biggest Difference of all Between Catholic and Protestant Bibles

[forkintheroad7]

Protestant Bibles have St Luke 13:3 speaking of repentance. The Catholic Bible uses the term doing penance. In the most reliable version of the Bible, the Douay Rheims, Jesus says

"Unless you do penance, you will all perish [in Hell]"

The Protestant Bibles just says "Unless you repent..."

So we see how it DOES make a big difference whether you are Catholic or Protestant.

Repenting is just the first step toward getting to Heaven. Doing penance means doing things that make up for the bad you've done.. and accepting sufferings as chastisement for sins.. you hit your thumb on a hammer.. you can offer that up to God in expiation of your serious sins. Someone on the internet is rude to you, ditto.. you can offer it to God in atonement for your sins.. (you will have no end of penances there!).. car breaks down.. ditto.

Then once you exhaust (or think you've exhausted) the list of your own sins, you can tackle the sins of others. The Virgin Mary appeared @ Fatima 1917 and told the children (and all of us) to offer sufferings for souls in mortal sin--on their way to Hell-- so that they will repent and not end up there.

 

[Donald H]

Protestant Bibles have St Luke 13:3 speaking of repentance. The Catholic Bible uses the term doing penance. In the most reliable version of the Bible, the Douay Rheims, Jesus says

"Unless you do penance, you will all perish [in Hell]"

The Protestant Bibles just says "Unless you repent..."

So we see how it DOES make a big difference whether you are Catholic or Protestant.

Repenting is just the first step toward getting to Heaven. Doing penance means doing things that make up for the bad you've done.. and accepting sufferings as chastisement for sins.. you hit your thumb on a hammer.. you can offer up to God in expiation of your serious sins. Someone on the internet is rude to you, ditto.. you can offer it to God in atonement for your sins.. (you will have no end of penances there!).. car breaks down.. ditto.

Then once you exhaust (or think you've exhausted) the list of your own sins, you can tackle the sins of others. The Virgin Mary appeared @ Fatima 1917 and told the children (and all of us) to offer sufferings for souls in mortal sin--on their way to Hell-- so that they will repent and not end up there.

Penance or repenting, it makes no difference. It's all make-believe.

And fwiw, the Catholics have laid their bibles aside as just an annoyance that refutes facts they've accepted, to remain in agreement with modern science.

Penance or repenting when they are still trying to deal with the story about Jonah and the big fish? LOL

 

[forkintheroad7]

Penance or repenting, it makes no difference. It's all make-believe.

And fwiw, the Catholics have laid their bibles aside as just an annoyance that refutes facts they've accepted, to remain in agreement with modern science.

Penance or repenting when they are still trying to deal with the story about Jonah and the big fish? LOL

You'll find out after you die..

 

[Donald H]

You'll find out after you die..

The thing is mr. fork, if you join the Catholic church you get to find out that the bibles are fakes while you're still alive.

Just ask a Catholic if the 'big fish' story is true!

So that's all settled and is water under the bridge.

Now let's ask some Protestants! Do their bibles just embarrass them?

 

[alang1216]

In the most reliable version of the Bible, the Douay Rheims, Jesus says

Why do you think a Greek text translated into Latin and then translated into English would be the most reliable version?

When considering which New Testament Bible is closest to the original texts, scholars typically focus on the accuracy of translation and the use of ancient manuscripts. Here are a few translations and editions noted for their faithfulness to the earliest known texts:

1. Nestle-Aland Novum Testamentum Graece (NA28)​

• Details: This is not an English translation but a critical edition of the Greek New Testament, used by scholars. It is based on the oldest and most reliable Greek manuscripts, such as Codex Sinaiticus and Codex Vaticanus.
• Use: Primarily used in academic settings and for translation work.

2. English Standard Version (ESV)​

• Details: The ESV is a direct descendant of the Revised Standard Version (RSV) and is highly regarded for its accuracy and readability. It strives to be as literal as possible while still being readable in modern English.
• Manuscript Basis: The ESV relies heavily on the critical Greek texts like those found in the Nestle-Aland and United Bible Societies (UBS) editions.

3. New American Standard Bible (NASB)​

• Details: The NASB is known for being one of the most literal translations available. It adheres closely to the original languages (Greek and Hebrew) and is often used in academic study.
• Manuscript Basis: It also uses the best available Greek manuscripts, including those from the Nestle-Aland text.

4. New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)​

• Details: The NRSV is known for its balance between accuracy to the original languages and inclusive, modern language. It’s widely used in both academic and liturgical settings.
• Manuscript Basis: It also relies on critical editions of the Greek New Testament.

5. King James Version (KJV)​

• Details: The KJV is a historic and influential English translation, first published in 1611. While it is beautiful and literary, it is based on the Textus Receptus, a Greek text that is less accurate than more recent critical editions.
• Consideration: The KJV is not the closest to the original manuscripts but remains a significant work for historical and liturgical reasons.

Summary​

For the closest representation of the original New Testament texts, the Nestle-Aland Greek New Testament (NA28) is the critical edition most directly connected to the earliest manuscripts. For English translations, the ESV, NASB, and NRSV are among the best options for accuracy and faithfulness to the original Greek.

 

[surada]

The thing is mr. fork, if you join the Catholic church you get to find out that the bibles are fakes while you're still alive.

Just ask a Catholic if the 'big fish' story is true!

So that's all settled and is water under the bridge.

Now let's ask some Protestants! Do their bibles just embarrass them?

The book of Jonah is a comic novella. Fiction with a lesson.

 

[Donald H]

The book of Jonah is a comic novella. Fiction with a lesson.

It is in the modern world of the 21st. century.

But it was the gospel truth to the majority of Christians as late as the 50's and perhaps even the 60's and 70's!

Our Ding disputes that and claims that his old granny knew the truth back in the 20's that her bible was a comic book!

 

[surada]

It is in the modern world of the 21st. century.

But it was the gospel truth to the majority of Christians as late as the 50's and perhaps even the 60's and 70's!

Our Ding disputes that and claims that his old granny knew the truth back in the 20's that her bible was a comic book!

Catholic Bible includes the first and second books of Maccabees. These books are considered "deuterocanonical" by the Catholic Church, meaning they are canonical even though some dispute them.

The Catholic Bible also includes seven other books that are not in the Protestant version of the Old Testament, including Baruch, Judith, Sirach, Tobit, and Wisdom.

These books are also known as "apocryphal" books. Catholic leaders decided to include these books because they were important to Jewish ancestors.


The books of Maccabees are not included in the Hebrew Bible, or Tanach, because the Maccabean revolt was relatively late and the first book was written in Hebrew.

However, the first two books of Maccabees do appear in some manuscripts of the Septuagint, an ancient Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible.

The books are also canonical in the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox churches, but not in Protestant denominations or any major branches of Judaism

 

[surada]

It is in the modern world of the 21st. century.

But it was the gospel truth to the majority of Christians as late as the 50's and perhaps even the 60's and 70's!

Our Ding disputes that and claims that his old granny knew the truth back in the 20's that her bible was a comic book!

The Bible has law and poetry. It's also tells stories and
myths that have been adapted by the Jews from surrounding cultures.

There's truth, but historically not "the truth".

 

[Meriweather]

"Unless you do penance, you will all perish [in Hell]"

The Protestant Bibles just says "Unless you repent..."

So we see how it DOES make a big difference whether you are Catholic or Protestant.

Jesus spoke Aramaic/Hebrew. In following the etymology of the original language, we see that Jesus is calling for a change of heart and actions that show that change of heart. It is more than just being sorry, it is more than doing a set penance.

 

[Woodznutz]

Protestant Bibles have St Luke 13:3 speaking of repentance. The Catholic Bible uses the term doing penance. In the most reliable version of the Bible, the Douay Rheims, Jesus says

"Unless you do penance, you will all perish [in Hell]"

The Protestant Bibles just says "Unless you repent..."

So we see how it DOES make a big difference whether you are Catholic or Protestant.

Repenting is just the first step toward getting to Heaven. Doing penance means doing things that make up for the bad you've done.. and accepting sufferings as chastisement for sins.. you hit your thumb on a hammer.. you can offer that up to God in expiation of your serious sins. Someone on the internet is rude to you, ditto.. you can offer it to God in atonement for your sins.. (you will have no end of penances there!).. car breaks down.. ditto.

Then once you exhaust (or think you've exhausted) the list of your own sins, you can tackle the sins of others. The Virgin Mary appeared @ Fatima 1917 and told the children (and all of us) to offer sufferings for souls in mortal sin--on their way to Hell-- so that they will repent and not end up there.

There is nothing in the original Greek word, expressed in that account, that suggests "penance". Also, the context of this discourse doesn't suggest "penance".

Penance: A never-ending guilt trip. Rejecting grace and Christ's sacrifice by paying for your own sins, and going on to pay for the sins of others as well. Sounds like the "Christ complex".

Repentance: Changing one's mind and behavior.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Protestant Bibles have St Luke 13:3 speaking of repentance. The Catholic Bible uses the term doing penance. In the most reliable version of the Bible, the Douay Rheims, Jesus says

"Unless you do penance, you will all perish [in Hell]"

The Protestant Bibles just says "Unless you repent..."

So we see how it DOES make a big difference whether you are Catholic or Protestant.

Repenting is just the first step toward getting to Heaven. Doing penance means doing things that make up for the bad you've done.. and accepting sufferings as chastisement for sins.. you hit your thumb on a hammer.. you can offer that up to God in expiation of your serious sins. Someone on the internet is rude to you, ditto.. you can offer it to God in atonement for your sins.. (you will have no end of penances there!).. car breaks down.. ditto.

Then once you exhaust (or think you've exhausted) the list of your own sins, you can tackle the sins of others. The Virgin Mary appeared @ Fatima 1917 and told the children (and all of us) to offer sufferings for souls in mortal sin--on their way to Hell-- so that they will repent and not end up there.

I thought it was that the Catholic Bible had two male lions on the Ark, and the Protestant Bible had two female lions on the Ark.

 

[Woodznutz]

I thought it was that the Catholic Bible had two male lions on the Ark, and the Protestant Bible had two female lions on the Ark.

The Catholic Bible presents no easy way to study the original language as does the KJV.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Why do you think a Greek text translated into Latin and then translated into English would be the most reliable version?

I stopped at the first UN-truth

St Jerome "translated" the Word from the ancient Hebrew and Aramaic that Jesus spoke --into Latin. Then later the Latin was translated by others into English. I put quotes on "translated" because he actually TRANSCRIBED rather than translated, as he didn't want to mess with the original wording/meaning

 

[forkintheroad7]

There is nothing in the original Greek word, expressed in that account, that suggests "penance". Also, the context of this discourse doesn't suggest "penance".

Penance: A never-ending guilt trip. Rejecting grace and Christ's sacrifice by paying for your own sins, and going on to pay for the sins of others as well. Sounds like the "Christ complex".

Repentance: Changing one's mind and behavior.

your opinion

Some of us care about TRUTH and FACTS (not that they objectively contradict one another...)

 

[forkintheroad7]

Catholic Bible includes the first and second books of Maccabees. These books are considered "deuterocanonical" by the Catholic Church, meaning they are canonical even though some dispute them.

The Catholic Bible also includes seven other books that are not in the Protestant version of the Old Testament, including Baruch, Judith, Sirach, Tobit, and Wisdom.

These books are also known as "apocryphal" books. Catholic leaders decided to include these books because they were important to Jewish ancestors.


The books of Maccabees are not included in the Hebrew Bible, or Tanach, because the Maccabean revolt was relatively late and the first book was written in Hebrew.

However, the first two books of Maccabees do appear in some manuscripts of the Septuagint, an ancient Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible.

The books are also canonical in the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox churches, but not in Protestant denominations or any major branches of Judaism

Well, that's amazing.. you finally post something I can agree with.. Well, not some of the last sentences because I haven't studied that. But I did know about... what is written in the first 3 paragraphs or so..

 

[Woodznutz]

your opinion

Some of us care about TRUTH and FACTS (not that they objectively contradict one another...)

The facts of a matter may be obvious, the truth of a matter might not be.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Facts are easy to recognize, truth not so much.

Well, maybe this is one reason Christ founded a Church... notice the singular word "a".. He didn't found ChurchES.. plural.

I began to understand Truth (objective truth) when I returned to the Catholic faith I was (thankfully) raised in.. even though my family was far from devout..

 

[Woodznutz]

Well, maybe this is one reason Christ founded a Church... notice the singular word "a".. He didn't found ChurchES.. plural.

I began to understand Truth (objective truth) when I returned to the Catholic faith I was (thankfully) raised in.. even though my family was far from devout..

Most denominations agree on basic doctrine.

 

[forkintheroad7]

Most denominations agree on basic doctrine.

No, they don't and even when they agree, they disagree, because.. u know.. things like this

You are Catholic

which triggers the "always disagree with Catholics even when they're correct or you can't prove otherwise"

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