This is how you stop gun crime...but they need even longer sentences...

[JoeB131]

No...we are not locking up gun criminals......like this guy....and he is not an isolated case...he is the norm...

Guy, we lock up more people than Communist CHina.

How is it that Communist China locks up less people than we do? How is it that Germany only locks up 78,000 and they only have 258 gun murders to our 11,000?

 

[2aguy]

That is a lie....the majority of gun murder are committed by people with long histories of violent crime..they are not normal people who get mad at the wife for burning dinner...I have posted the research..

You've posted horseshit that I've mostly ignored.

The mass shooters.....you know your gun control laws don't stop them...ever....

We don't have gun control. That's why it doesn't stop them.

I've told you my solution. Some nut shoots up a school, the guy who sold him that gun goes to jail and the guy who made that gun pays big settlements to everyone who was killed and injured.

Betcha they find out who they are selling to after that.

yes...I know...you are stupid...punish the people who didn't do the shooting.....rare genius there......they follow all of the laws that you pass and then, when the mass shooter uses the gun to murder people...you put the people who followed the law in jail....

You anti gun extremists are nuts.

 

[JoeB131]

Less than three months later, he was arrested and charged with breaking into a car. In July 2012, he was arrested for breaking into a different vehicle. In November 2012, he was arrested for misdemeanor trespassing

so he was engaged in minor property crimes that we don't even bother locking people up for.

So if guns and prisons make us safer, why are you pissing yourself?

 

[2aguy]

No...we are not locking up gun criminals......like this guy....and he is not an isolated case...he is the norm...

Guy, we lock up more people than Communist CHina.

How is it that Communist China locks up less people than we do? How is it that Germany only locks up 78,000 and they only have 258 gun murders to our 11,000?

Different criminal culture....China locks up innocent people.....we lock up people who actually break the law. china is a police state....you guys love police states and want that here...too bad the Constitution stops you right?

Germans have a criminal culture that doesn't use guns as often...they have just as much access to guns...and when they use guns they prefer fully automatic weapons...they just don't choose to use them as often...but that is changing...

 

[JoeB131]

yes...I know...you are stupid...punish the people who didn't do the shooting.....rare genius there......they follow all of the laws that you pass and then, when the mass shooter uses the gun to murder people...you put the people who followed the law in jail....

You anti gun extremists are nuts.

The gun industry is KNOWINGLY pushing guns out there to dangerous people. They've created so many loopholes in the laws and fight every common sense gun law that people pass.

So no gun laws. Just hold the gun sellers responsible for the damage their products cause just like any other manufacturer.

We pulled side-opening baby cribs off hte market because 32 children died.

Guns kill thousands of kids, and they are still on the market. How fucked up is that?

 

[2aguy]

Less than three months later, he was arrested and charged with breaking into a car. In July 2012, he was arrested for breaking into a different vehicle. In November 2012, he was arrested for misdemeanor trespassing

so he was engaged in minor property crimes that we don't even bother locking people up for.

So if guns and prisons make us safer, why are you pissing yourself?

Dipstick....he was arrested on aggravated unlawful use of a weapon...he should have been in jail for 10 years.......and you focus on the property crime....

are you sane....are you on meds?

 

[JoeB131]

Different criminal culture....China locks up innocent people.....we lock up people who actually break the law. china is a police state....you guys love police states and want that here...too bad the Constitution stops you right?

I suspect most people in Chinese Prisons did exactly what they were accused of and deserve to be there. What they dont' do is let every nut who wants a gun have one.

 

[2aguy]

yes...I know...you are stupid...punish the people who didn't do the shooting.....rare genius there......they follow all of the laws that you pass and then, when the mass shooter uses the gun to murder people...you put the people who followed the law in jail....

You anti gun extremists are nuts.

The gun industry is KNOWINGLY pushing guns out there to dangerous people. They've created so many loopholes in the laws and fight every common sense gun law that people pass.

So no gun laws. Just hold the gun sellers responsible for the damage their products cause just like any other manufacturer.

We pulled side-opening baby cribs off hte market because 32 children died.

Guns kill thousands of kids, and they are still on the market. How fucked up is that?

There are no loopholes in the law....the mass shooters obeyed your laws or ignored them...

Guns do not kill thousands of kids....that is a lie.

 

[JoeB131]

Dipstick....he was arrested on aggravated unlawful use of a weapon...he should have been in jail for 10 years.......and you focus on the property crime....

are you sane....are you on meds?

NO, guy, watching you gun nuts get boners over the death and destruction you cause k ind of makes me nuts.

You people have no ******* souls.

 

[2aguy]

yes...I know...you are stupid...punish the people who didn't do the shooting.....rare genius there......they follow all of the laws that you pass and then, when the mass shooter uses the gun to murder people...you put the people who followed the law in jail....

You anti gun extremists are nuts.

The gun industry is KNOWINGLY pushing guns out there to dangerous people. They've created so many loopholes in the laws and fight every common sense gun law that people pass.

So no gun laws. Just hold the gun sellers responsible for the damage their products cause just like any other manufacturer.

We pulled side-opening baby cribs off hte market because 32 children died.

Guns kill thousands of kids, and they are still on the market. How fucked up is that?

Guns kill thousands of kids, and they are still on the market.

Guns do not kill thousands of kids...that is an anti gun extremist lie.......


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Kids murdered by guns....

under 1: 12
age 1-4: 39

age 5-14: 142

total gun murder of children.....193



Kids murdered by other means...

under 1: 270
age 1-4: 298
age 5-14: 135



murder of children by other means.....703
Now, if even if you include gun accidents into the total.....

you are still wrong....

Accidental death by gun for children....

under 1: 3
age 1-4: 27
age 5-14: 39

Total accidental gun death for kids 2013....69

 

[2aguy]

Different criminal culture....China locks up innocent people.....we lock up people who actually break the law. china is a police state....you guys love police states and want that here...too bad the Constitution stops you right?

I suspect most people in Chinese Prisons did exactly what they were accused of and deserve to be there. What they dont' do is let every nut who wants a gun have one.

Of course you do...your God is the state...and if the state locks up innocent people so much the better...you hate people too.....

 

[2aguy]

Less than three months later, he was arrested and charged with breaking into a car. In July 2012, he was arrested for breaking into a different vehicle. In November 2012, he was arrested for misdemeanor trespassing

so he was engaged in minor property crimes that we don't even bother locking people up for.

So if guns and prisons make us safer, why are you pissing yourself?

so he was engaged in minor property crimes that we don't even bother locking people up for.

You need to actually read the posts if you plan on commenting on them......you will sound less stupid if you do....


Suspect who fatally shot NY cop had history of violence, 28 prior arrests

However, at the time of Tuesday’s shooting, Howard was already wanted for a previous shooting that occurred in August and, in fact, over the last two months, authorities made 10 unsuccessful attempts to apprehend Howard, the Associated Pressreported.

Court documents show Howard has been arrested a total of 28 times over the last 17 years, with his first arrest occurring at just 13-years-old.


Howard’s criminal history included four felony drug charges, as well as charges stemming from his involvement in a 2009 shooting that injured an 11-year-old child and a 78-year-old.

Again...this also shows that normal people are not shooting other people.....people with long, extensive, violent criminal histories shoot people and most of their victims are criminals with long, extensive criminal histories...

 

[2aguy]

Dipstick....he was arrested on aggravated unlawful use of a weapon...he should have been in jail for 10 years.......and you focus on the property crime....

are you sane....are you on meds?

NO, guy, watching you gun nuts get boners over the death and destruction you cause k ind of makes me nuts.

You people have no ******* souls.

Says the guy who wants to punish people who don't commit crimes....while ignoring the ones who do....

 

[JoeB131]

yes...I know...you are stupid...punish the people who didn't do the shooting.....rare genius there......they follow all of the laws that you pass and then, when the mass shooter uses the gun to murder people...you put the people who followed the law in jail....

You anti gun extremists are nuts.

The gun industry is KNOWINGLY pushing guns out there to dangerous people. They've created so many loopholes in the laws and fight every common sense gun law that people pass.

So no gun laws. Just hold the gun sellers responsible for the damage their products cause just like any other manufacturer.

We pulled side-opening baby cribs off hte market because 32 children died.

Guns kill thousands of kids, and they are still on the market. How fucked up is that?

Guns kill thousands of kids, and they are still on the market.

Guns do not kill thousands of kids...that is an anti gun extremist lie.......


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Kids murdered by guns....

under 1: 12
age 1-4: 39

age 5-14: 142

total gun murder of children.....193



Kids murdered by other means...

under 1: 270
age 1-4: 298
age 5-14: 135



murder of children by other means.....703
Now, if even if you include gun accidents into the total.....

you are still wrong....

Accidental death by gun for children....

under 1: 3
age 1-4: 27
age 5-14: 39

Total accidental gun death for kids 2013....69

you're leaving out suicides, of course. Yawn, guy, I know you are terrified that the rest us will top indulging your fetish, but you guys really need to police up your own act.

Or we will.

 

[2aguy]

This is the problem all over the country....criminals out on parole, or probation who were caught with guns committing gun crimes...who should have been locked up....

This is the Hidiya Pendelton murder...notice the dates of the shooting...and when this guy was put on probation for unlawful criminal use of a weapon...

Death of Hadiya Pendleton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The death of Hadiya Pendleton occurred on January 29, 2013. Pendleton was a 15-year-old girl from Chicago, who was shot in the back and killed while standing with friends inside Harsh Park in Chicago after taking her final exams.[1]

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At the time of the shooting, Ward, the gunman, was on probation.

In January 2012, he had pled guilty to aggravated unlawful use of a weapon, and was sentenced to two years of probation.

Less than three months later, he was arrested and charged with breaking into a car. In July 2012, he was arrested for breaking into a different vehicle. In November 2012, he was arrested for misdemeanor trespassing. During his youth, he had also been arrested numerous times on charges ranging from robbery to battery to marijuana possession, and had spent time on juvenile probation.[7]


And these are just the crimes we know about.....

Had he been in jail for 10 years on the aggravated unlawful use of a weapon that girl would be alive....and this isn't the only case of this...it happens again and again...and it needs to stop.

 

[JoeB131]

Says the guy who wants to punish people who don't commit crimes....while ignoring the ones who do....

the gun industry is the disease.

The criminals are symptom. So are suicides, accidents and loser who shoot their families during domestic argumetns.

 

[JoeB131]

Of course you do...your God is the state...and if the state locks up innocent people so much the better...you hate people too.....

Naw, just the assholes who want to flood our street with deadly weapons and then take no responsibility for the carnage.

I would LOVE to see Wayne LaPeirre locked up with a large black man who will make him his prison *****.

 

[2aguy]

yes...I know...you are stupid...punish the people who didn't do the shooting.....rare genius there......they follow all of the laws that you pass and then, when the mass shooter uses the gun to murder people...you put the people who followed the law in jail....

You anti gun extremists are nuts.

The gun industry is KNOWINGLY pushing guns out there to dangerous people. They've created so many loopholes in the laws and fight every common sense gun law that people pass.

So no gun laws. Just hold the gun sellers responsible for the damage their products cause just like any other manufacturer.

We pulled side-opening baby cribs off hte market because 32 children died.

Guns kill thousands of kids, and they are still on the market. How fucked up is that?

Guns kill thousands of kids, and they are still on the market.

Guns do not kill thousands of kids...that is an anti gun extremist lie.......


http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr64/nvsr64_02.pdf

Kids murdered by guns....

under 1: 12
age 1-4: 39

age 5-14: 142

total gun murder of children.....193



Kids murdered by other means...

under 1: 270
age 1-4: 298
age 5-14: 135



murder of children by other means.....703
Now, if even if you include gun accidents into the total.....

you are still wrong....

Accidental death by gun for children....

under 1: 3
age 1-4: 27
age 5-14: 39

Total accidental gun death for kids 2013....69

you're leaving out suicides, of course. Yawn, guy, I know you are terrified that the rest us will top indulging your fetish, but you guys really need to police up your own act.

Or we will.

Japan, South Korea and China have absolute gun control and 2x the suicide rate we have....guns are not the issue with suicide....

Poland, Hungary and Russia have extreme gun control laws...and higher suicide rates than we do....guns are not the issue with suicide...

Rope is the most popular method of suicide around the world...guns are not the issue with suicide...

But you need to include those numbers to push up your gun death numbers.....

in 2014 there were 8,124 gun murders, in a population of over 320 million people....

Doesn't scream problem to anyone but you nuts....considering cars killed over 34,000.....falling over 30,000

 

[2aguy]

Of course you do...your God is the state...and if the state locks up innocent people so much the better...you hate people too.....

Naw, just the assholes who want to flood our street with deadly weapons and then take no responsibility for the carnage.

I would LOVE to see Wayne LaPeirre locked up with a large black man who will make him his prison *****.

Your obsession with sex and guns really needs to be looked at.....before you hurt someone.......

 

[2aguy]

More links to criminals who get released instead of serving real time for gun crime......the real gun problem...

I-Team: gun arrest doesn't always mean jail time

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And this from saint louis, about judges not locking up gun criminals...

Chief Dotson says judges are part of the gun violence problem in St. Louis city



The chief signed off on several Twitter messages on Monday, trying to alert the public, and perhaps pressure judges, to hand out harsher sentences for gun crimes.

In 2014, St. Louis circuit judges gave gun criminals probation 62 percent of the time.

The case that has the chief so upset right now involves Jamel Yates, 18, who was charged last week with allegedly killing a man he was selling a gun to in the 6000 block of Suburban.
At the time of last week's shooting, Yates was on probation on a gun charge related to a traffic stop that went badly back in February.

In April, Yates pleaded guilty to illegally carrying a concealed weapon and resisting arrest.

The judge gave him probation.

Now, less than six months later, Yates is charged with first degree murder, which the chief pointed out in that series of tweets issued by the department.


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and from milwaukee on not wanting mandatory sentences...

Milwaukee Mayor Proposes Mandatory Minimum Sentences for Firearms-Related Crimes. Democrat Opposes [VIDEO] - The Truth About Guns

From Chicago...Back of the Yards shooting where they were out in under 2 years on a 3 year sentence for gun crimes

Back of the Yards Gunmen Wanted Revenge for Earlier Shooting: Authorities

Out on Bond on Murder Rap, Man Charged in Back of the Yards Shooting of 13 - Back of the Yards - DNAinfo.com Chicago

Chicago, New York, L.A. not prosecuting gun crime...

Chicago, Los Angeles, New York Prosecuted Fewest Federal Gun Crimes

This is how you stop gun crime...lock up gun criminals....

Going After Crimes -- and Guns

States that won't extradite felons who escape to other states and how they go on to kill and rape...

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...adition-investigation-crime-violence/6273375/

obama not prosecuting gun crimes....

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...secutions-on-decline-amid-call-for-more-laws/

this is about a guy trying to sell guns in chicago....43 of them, he was sentenced to 3 years....will probably be out in under 2

http://www.elkharttruth.com/news/in...uying-guns-in-Indiana-selling-in-Chicago.html

Another story about how Chicago does not lock up gun criminals...illegal possession 1 year, felony possession...4 years out in under 2....

http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/...ntences-in-cook-county-fuel-lock-em-up-debate