This is a thread for those on the RIGHT to unequivocally condemn the racism, white supremacy, fascism, antisemitism, and bigotry of Charlie Kirk.

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People have demanded condemnation from the left because they saw a video of people celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. Perhaps what needs to be condemned are the things Kirk said and believed. So let's see the right condemn the racism, white supremacy, fascism, antisemitism, sexism, homophobia, and bigotry spoken by Charlie Kirk.
  • During a heated exchange on Jubilee’s Surrounded, he claimed Black people were “better” in the 1940s. “They were actually better in the 1940s. It was bad. It was evil. But what happened? Something changed. They committed less crimes… Black America is worse than it has been in the last 80 years.”
  • On his radio show, he claimed Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Ketanji Brown Jackson were “affirmative action picks” and went further, “Black women do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”
  • After Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement, he fantasized about her becoming more conservative. “Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.”

Black people​

  • “Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.” (source)

Black pilots​

  • “If I see a Black pilot, I’m gonna be like, ’Boy, I hope he’s qualified.’” (source)

Black women​

  • “They're coming out, and they're saying, 'I'm only here because of affirmative action.' Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

Civil rights​

  • “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s.” (source)

The death penalty​

  • "[The death penalty] should be public, should be quick, should be televised… I think at a certain age, it’s an initiation… At what age should you start to see public executions?" (source)

Democrats​

  • “The Democrat Party supports everything that God hates.” (source)

Empathy​

  • "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage." (source)

Feminism​

  • “Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge." (source)

Gay people​

  • “You might want to crack open that Bible of yours. In a lesser referenced part of the same part of scripture, is in Leviticus 18 is that, ‘thou shalt lay with another man shall be stoned to death.’ Just sayin’! So Miss Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19… the chapter before affirms God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” (source)

George Floyd​

  • “This guy was a scumbag.” (source)

Great Replacement Theory​

  • “It's not a Great Replacement Theory, it's a Great Replacement Reality. Just this year, 3.6 million foreigners will invade America. 10-15 million will enter by the end of Joe Biden's term. Each will probably have 3-5 kids on average while native born Americans have 1.5 per couple. You are being replaced, by design.” (source)

Guns​

  • “It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.” (source)

Jews​

  • “Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open-border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews and now it’s coming for Jews, and they're like, ‘What on Earth happened?’ And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it.” (source)

Martin Luther King Jr.​

  • “MLK was awful. He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.” (source)

Muslims​

  • “They aren’t even hiding their intentions. Muslims plan to conquer Europe by demographic replacement. Will Europe wake up in time?” (source)

Palestine​

  • “I don’t think the place exists.” (source)

Transgender people​

  • “You’re an abomination to God.” (source)
 
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People have demanded condemnation from the left because they saw a video of people celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. Perhaps what needs to be condemned are the things Kirk said and believed. So let's see the right condemn the racism, white supremacy, fascism, antisemitism, sexism, homophobia, and bigotry spoken by Charlie Kirk.
  • During a heated exchange on Jubilee’s Surrounded, he claimed Black people were “better” in the 1940s. “They were actually better in the 1940s. It was bad. It was evil. But what happened? Something changed. They committed less crimes… Black America is worse than it has been in the last 80 years.”
  • On his radio show, he claimed Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Ketanji Brown Jackson were “affirmative action picks” and went further, “Black women do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”
  • After Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement, he fantasized about her becoming more conservative. “Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.”

Black people​

  • “Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.” (source)

Black pilots​

  • “If I see a Black pilot, I’m gonna be like, ’Boy, I hope he’s qualified.’” (source)

Black women​

  • “They're coming out, and they're saying, 'I'm only here because of affirmative action.' Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

Civil rights​

  • “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s.” (source)

The death penalty​

  • "[The death penalty] should be public, should be quick, should be televised… I think at a certain age, it’s an initiation… At what age should you start to see public executions?" (source)

Democrats​

  • “The Democrat Party supports everything that God hates.” (source)

Empathy​

  • "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage." (source)

Feminism​

  • “Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge." (source)

Gay people​

  • “You might want to crack open that Bible of yours. In a lesser referenced part of the same part of scripture, is in Leviticus 18 is that, ‘thou shalt lay with another man shall be stoned to death.’ Just sayin’! So Miss Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19… the chapter before affirms God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” (source)

George Floyd​

  • “This guy was a scumbag.” (source)

Great Replacement Theory​

  • “It's not a Great Replacement Theory, it's a Great Replacement Reality. Just this year, 3.6 million foreigners will invade America. 10-15 million will enter by the end of Joe Biden's term. Each will probably have 3-5 kids on average while native born Americans have 1.5 per couple. You are being replaced, by design.” (source)

Guns​

  • “It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.” (source)

Jews​

  • “Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open-border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews and now it’s coming for Jews, and they're like, ‘What on Earth happened?’ And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it.” (source)

Martin Luther King Jr.​

  • “MLK was awful. He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.” (source)

Muslims​

  • “They aren’t even hiding their intentions. Muslims plan to conquer Europe by demographic replacement. Will Europe wake up in time?” (source)

Palestine​

  • “I don’t think the place exists.” (source)

Transgender people​

  • “You’re an abomination to God.” (source)
The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.

Don't like it? Change the channel, change the station. if it 's a politician, vote against them.

kill your electronic device, not the messenger you disagree with.

that's the action of a barbarian.
 
The First Amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion, expression, assembly, and the right to petition. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. It guarantees freedom of expression by prohibiting Congress from restricting the press or the rights of individuals to speak freely. It also guarantees the right of citizens to assemble peaceably and to petition their government.

Don't like it? Change the channel, change the station. if it 's a politician, vote against them.

kill your electronic device, not the messenger you disagree with.

that's the action of a barbarian.
He just can't get over the fact that Kirk war right. While he has always used racism to excuse his shortcomings, he has finally gone over the edge.
 
People have demanded condemnation from the left because they saw a video of people celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. Perhaps what needs to be condemned are the things Kirk said and believed. So let's see the right condemn the racism, white supremacy, fascism, antisemitism, sexism, homophobia, and bigotry spoken by Charlie Kirk.
  • During a heated exchange on Jubilee’s Surrounded, he claimed Black people were “better” in the 1940s. “They were actually better in the 1940s. It was bad. It was evil. But what happened? Something changed. They committed less crimes… Black America is worse than it has been in the last 80 years.”
  • On his radio show, he claimed Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Ketanji Brown Jackson were “affirmative action picks” and went further, “Black women do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”
  • After Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement, he fantasized about her becoming more conservative. “Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.”

Black people​

  • “Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.” (source)

Black pilots​

  • “If I see a Black pilot, I’m gonna be like, ’Boy, I hope he’s qualified.’” (source)

Black women​

  • “They're coming out, and they're saying, 'I'm only here because of affirmative action.' Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

Civil rights​

  • “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s.” (source)

The death penalty​

  • "[The death penalty] should be public, should be quick, should be televised… I think at a certain age, it’s an initiation… At what age should you start to see public executions?" (source)

Democrats​

  • “The Democrat Party supports everything that God hates.” (source)

Empathy​

  • "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage." (source)

Feminism​

  • “Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge." (source)

Gay people​

  • “You might want to crack open that Bible of yours. In a lesser referenced part of the same part of scripture, is in Leviticus 18 is that, ‘thou shalt lay with another man shall be stoned to death.’ Just sayin’! So Miss Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19… the chapter before affirms God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” (source)

George Floyd​

  • “This guy was a scumbag.” (source)

Great Replacement Theory​

  • “It's not a Great Replacement Theory, it's a Great Replacement Reality. Just this year, 3.6 million foreigners will invade America. 10-15 million will enter by the end of Joe Biden's term. Each will probably have 3-5 kids on average while native born Americans have 1.5 per couple. You are being replaced, by design.” (source)

Guns​

  • “It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.” (source)

Jews​

  • “Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open-border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews and now it’s coming for Jews, and they're like, ‘What on Earth happened?’ And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it.” (source)

Martin Luther King Jr.​

  • “MLK was awful. He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.” (source)

Muslims​

  • “They aren’t even hiding their intentions. Muslims plan to conquer Europe by demographic replacement. Will Europe wake up in time?” (source)

Palestine​

  • “I don’t think the place exists.” (source)

Transgender people​

  • “You’re an abomination to God.” (source)
He was no saint.
 
He just can't get over the fact that Kirk war right. While he has always used racism to excuse his shortcomings, he has finally gone over the edge.
Kirk was not right. That's the problem. The only people who have ever used race to excuse shortcomings have been you right-wing MAGATS. That includes Kirk, who dropped out of Jr. College and the only way he was able to make money was by peddling white racism.

I graduated from Juco. I graduated from university. I graduated from grad school. None of these things are shortcoming. Whites such as you and others whining about blacks getting jobs over whites because of DEI are prime examples of how right-wing wing whites use racism to excuse their shortcomings.
 
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And what the **** is your point? This was a racist comment, and no context changes this. If that's not who the ************ was, he would not have made the comment. I get real tired of the whites who always try denying racism coming from white people.
 
I'm not on the right, but lots of people here are convinced I am, so I'll unequivocally condemn any racism, white supremacy, fascism, antisemitism, and bigotry expressed by Kirk. I'm sure there's some out there.

Your list of examples, however, was weak. The very first one I looked up turned to be complete bullshit.

I didn't follow Kirk closely, or much at all really. I didn't care for his smug demeanor, and I didn't like his main schtick, "debating" stupid college kids. Which only ever proved one thing - that there are some pretty stupid college kids. So I'm not defending him. I just don't like disingenuous smear campaigns.
 
I'm not on the right, but lots of people here are convinced I am, so I'll unequivocally condemn any racism, white supremacy, fascism, antisemitism, and bigotry expressed by Kirk. I'm sure there's some out there.

Your list of examples, however, was weak. The very first one I looked up turned to be complete bullshit.

I didn't follow Kirk closely, or much at all really. I didn't care for his smug demeanor, and I didn't like his main schtick, "debating" stupid college kids. Which only every proved one thing - there are stupid college kids. So I'm not defending him. I just don't like disingenuous smear campaigns.
Smear campaign my ass.

There was nothing disingenuous about this amd none of the things were bulshit. Kirk was a racist. Again, if that wasn't who he was, then he would not have made the comment. And then there are several other similar comments he made. So stop being white and looking for ways to deny racism.

So now it's not racist to say that if I see a black pilot, I hope he is qualified. All you have to do to claim plausible deniability is 2 sentences later say that's not you and that's good enough for some white people to deny that it was racist.

Kirk didn't say that if he saw a pilot that he would hope he was qualified; he made it clear that he would only question the qualifications of a black pilot. But that's not racist.

It's amazing just how far some whites will go to lie to themselves.
 
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And what the **** is your point? This was a racist comment, and no context changes this.
Really?? Did you read the snopes fact check? Did you read the quote in context? Where this quip was followed with "... that's not who I am. That's not what I believe."

Your kind of obtuse knee-jerk liberalism is why we have Trump.
 
People have demanded condemnation from the left because they saw a video of people celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. Perhaps what needs to be condemned are the things Kirk said and believed. So let's see the right condemn the racism, white supremacy, fascism, antisemitism, sexism, homophobia, and bigotry spoken by Charlie Kirk.
  • During a heated exchange on Jubilee’s Surrounded, he claimed Black people were “better” in the 1940s. “They were actually better in the 1940s. It was bad. It was evil. But what happened? Something changed. They committed less crimes… Black America is worse than it has been in the last 80 years.”
  • On his radio show, he claimed Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Ketanji Brown Jackson were “affirmative action picks” and went further, “Black women do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”
  • After Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement, he fantasized about her becoming more conservative. “Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.”

Black people​

  • “Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.” (source)

Black pilots​

  • “If I see a Black pilot, I’m gonna be like, ’Boy, I hope he’s qualified.’” (source)

Black women​

  • “They're coming out, and they're saying, 'I'm only here because of affirmative action.' Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

Civil rights​

  • “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s.” (source)

The death penalty​

  • "[The death penalty] should be public, should be quick, should be televised… I think at a certain age, it’s an initiation… At what age should you start to see public executions?" (source)

Democrats​

  • “The Democrat Party supports everything that God hates.” (source)

Empathy​

  • "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage." (source)

Feminism​

  • “Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge." (source)

Gay people​

  • “You might want to crack open that Bible of yours. In a lesser referenced part of the same part of scripture, is in Leviticus 18 is that, ‘thou shalt lay with another man shall be stoned to death.’ Just sayin’! So Miss Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19… the chapter before affirms God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” (source)

George Floyd​

  • “This guy was a scumbag.” (source)

Great Replacement Theory​

  • “It's not a Great Replacement Theory, it's a Great Replacement Reality. Just this year, 3.6 million foreigners will invade America. 10-15 million will enter by the end of Joe Biden's term. Each will probably have 3-5 kids on average while native born Americans have 1.5 per couple. You are being replaced, by design.” (source)

Guns​

  • “It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.” (source)

Jews​

  • “Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open-border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews and now it’s coming for Jews, and they're like, ‘What on Earth happened?’ And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it.” (source)

Martin Luther King Jr.​

  • “MLK was awful. He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.” (source)

Muslims​

  • “They aren’t even hiding their intentions. Muslims plan to conquer Europe by demographic replacement. Will Europe wake up in time?” (source)

Palestine​

  • “I don’t think the place exists.” (source)

Transgender people​

  • “You’re an abomination to God.” (source)
 
It's definitely possible Kirk had racist views, and I'm happy to condemn those views. But I'm curious, would that change the situation at all? Does it justify his assassination? Do people have a right to express views that you consider racist?
 
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People have demanded condemnation from the left because they saw a video of people celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. Perhaps what needs to be condemned are the things Kirk said and believed. So let's see the right condemn the racism, white supremacy, fascism, antisemitism, sexism, homophobia, and bigotry spoken by Charlie Kirk.
  • During a heated exchange on Jubilee’s Surrounded, he claimed Black people were “better” in the 1940s. “They were actually better in the 1940s. It was bad. It was evil. But what happened? Something changed. They committed less crimes… Black America is worse than it has been in the last 80 years.”
  • On his radio show, he claimed Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Ketanji Brown Jackson were “affirmative action picks” and went further, “Black women do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”
  • After Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s engagement, he fantasized about her becoming more conservative. “Submit to your husband, Taylor. You’re not in charge.”

Black people​

  • “Happening all the time in urban America, prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people, that’s a fact. It’s happening more and more.” (source)

Black pilots​

  • “If I see a Black pilot, I’m gonna be like, ’Boy, I hope he’s qualified.’” (source)

Black women​

  • “They're coming out, and they're saying, 'I'm only here because of affirmative action.' Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously."

Civil rights​

  • “We made a huge mistake when we passed the Civil Rights Act in the mid-1960s.” (source)

The death penalty​

  • "[The death penalty] should be public, should be quick, should be televised… I think at a certain age, it’s an initiation… At what age should you start to see public executions?" (source)

Democrats​

  • “The Democrat Party supports everything that God hates.” (source)

Empathy​

  • "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made up new age term that does a lot of damage." (source)

Feminism​

  • “Reject feminism. Submit to your husband, Taylor. You're not in charge." (source)

Gay people​

  • “You might want to crack open that Bible of yours. In a lesser referenced part of the same part of scripture, is in Leviticus 18 is that, ‘thou shalt lay with another man shall be stoned to death.’ Just sayin’! So Miss Rachel, you quote Leviticus 19… the chapter before affirms God’s perfect law when it comes to sexual matters.” (source)

George Floyd​

  • “This guy was a scumbag.” (source)

Great Replacement Theory​

  • “It's not a Great Replacement Theory, it's a Great Replacement Reality. Just this year, 3.6 million foreigners will invade America. 10-15 million will enter by the end of Joe Biden's term. Each will probably have 3-5 kids on average while native born Americans have 1.5 per couple. You are being replaced, by design.” (source)

Guns​

  • “It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment.” (source)

Jews​

  • “Jewish donors have been the number one funding mechanism of radical open-border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies, cultural institutions and nonprofits. This is a beast created by secular Jews and now it’s coming for Jews, and they're like, ‘What on Earth happened?’ And it's not just the colleges. It's the nonprofits, it's the movies, it's Hollywood, it's all of it.” (source)

Martin Luther King Jr.​

  • “MLK was awful. He's not a good person. He said one good thing he actually didn't believe.” (source)

Muslims​

  • “They aren’t even hiding their intentions. Muslims plan to conquer Europe by demographic replacement. Will Europe wake up in time?” (source)

Palestine​

  • “I don’t think the place exists.” (source)

Transgender people​

  • “You’re an abomination to God.” (source)
thank you for posting this and taking some of the heat off of others :auiqs.jpg:
 
It's definitely possible Kirk had racist views, and I'm happy to condemn those views. But I'm curious, would that change the situation at all? Does it justify his assassination? Do people have a right to express views that you consider racist?
Views I consider racist? I think that the views Kirk held were universally held as racist. Now, the thing here is that the right needs to condemn these views. Perhaps if they had condemned them, Kirk would still be alive.
 
Views I consider racist? I think that the views Kirk held were universally held as racist. Now, the thing here is that the right needs to condemn these views. Perhaps if they had condemned them, Kirk would still be alive.
Yep. If that cracker had just shut his mouth, he'd still be with us.
 
Yep. If that cracker had just shut his mouth, he'd still be with us.
That's not how I see it, but it's the dishonest way you want to play things. No one should be empowered to push racist ideology. Had some people been decent enough to tell Kirk what he was expressing was wrong and unacceptable, instead of yes, Charlie you have the freedom to say racist a nd sexist things about others whenever you feel like it, and everybody who objects is wrong, he might still be alive right now
 

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