This came to me from Erika Kirk

So being gay is a mental issue? That's not much of a stretch. Even less so being a tranny.
He clearly carried issues, with his father and perhaps Mormon religious up bringing...but that does not on its own, make a murderer.... There's likely a multitude of gay men out there with unaccepting fathers and religious upbringing, and they don't end up being murderers....??? I truly do not know what made him a cold blooded murderer...but something in his head caused him to snap in to some sort of fantasy land....imo.

His father loved Charlie. He killed Charlie.
 
And I personally will not stop saying it and calling it out, when it's the truth in my book! Right before our eyes to see!
Of course you won't. You celebrate the violence and killings with your violent rhetoric.

You are part of the problem.
 
Of course you won't. You celebrate the violence and killings with your violent rhetoric.

You are part of the problem.
What is violent about my rhetoric??? Please explain it, and give me an example from someone on your side of the aisle doing it too, if you can.
 
What is violent about my rhetoric??? Please explain it, and give me an example from someone on your side of the aisle doing it too, if you can.
You really don't understand? Really?

Fascists kill you. Fascists put your wife in prison. Fascist close down your churches ...

Fascists are literally an existential threat to your very existence.

Someone is going to kill your husband, what do you do.

There is nothing comparable on the Republican/conservative side.. DO you not listen to your politicians, to MSNBC, CNN. 24/7/365 it's "Fascist" "Nazi" "Threat to Democracy" You dismiss the cumulative effect but the assassinations, attempted assassinations, violence against ICE ... bears it out.
 
What is violent about my rhetoric??? Please explain it, and give me an example from someone on your side of the aisle doing it too, if you can.
You don't think your party's 24/7/365 demonization of ICE agents had anything to do with today's shooting? Really?
 
I'm not at all surprised by her response or claim of how Charlie would have felt, I literally predicted it back when Kirk was killed, just very rare to see these days. I'll leave it up to the reader to decide the sincerity, reasons or merits of her feeling that way, my only point is that, good or bad, could she or anyone really blame most anything that someone might do now in response to Kirk's killing, considering some of the many things already said and done by idiots on the left?

I mean, in just hardly one year:
  1. Kirk shot dead in the throat in Utah.
  2. The Routh stalker hiding in Trump's hedges with a rifle.
  3. The fireman Corey Competore killed at Butler, Pa. (2 others injured as well)
  4. The near-miss of Trump himself by Thomas Crooks. Trump iced that one by a lucky shave.
And before that: Scalise shot in a ballpark, countless people attacked in restaurants and other public places just for wearing a red ballcap, or working for Trump's administration, etc.

Democrats have for years attacked, threatened and killed so many people on the Right now--- literally vilified and enabled all the way up to the Speaker and the President (Joe Biden) themselves, calling people on the Right terrorists, nazis, fascists, and leading domestic threats. Hell, Joe had the FBI watching parents for asking questions about their kid's education.

What could any person really do now in response to what happened to Kirk that anyone could really say was totally unjustified?

Put another way, conservatives will not get a single brownie point from any progressive for just turning the other cheek, in fact, they surely will not understand it and will misinterpret it at best as the result of some clever, superior tactic of their doing!

That is why I finally decided that I supported the death penalty for Robinson, because people need to see him die (not just get locked away) for the heinousness and cruelty of his ignorant crime so they understand the seriousness of doing stuff like that.

The 21st Century has not turned out to be the really cool place that George Jetson promised it would be.
I have to believe Erika was sincere about forgiving Charlie's murderer because I don't have any reason not to believe her. She is a strong, amazing woman. A positive example for all who intend good in the world.

I also can empathize with President Trump's remarks that he can't do that. At least not yet. He hates those who do such violence, who oppose everything good his administration is trying to accomplish, is accomplishing. When he speaks extemporaneously he doesn't always add the detail that would clarify exactly what he meant with his remarks and the left never ever gives him benefit of the doubt about that. Later on in an interview, he'll no doubt be asked about it and will provide that detail.

And for myself, I am not sure I have it in my heart to forgive Charlie Kirk's murderer. Not yet. Nor can I honestly say I forgive the vile, crude, hateful, violent, etc. who are opposing everything good the Administration is doing, has done as well as all of us who support that. I do pray to be able to forgive, not for their sake, but for mine.
 

Log Cabin Dallas Pays Tribute to Charlie Kirk

Sep 11, 2025In this statement from Blaine, President of Log Cabin Republicans of Dallas, we honor the life and legacy of Charlie Kirk, reflect on his impact, and share how our chapter plans to carry his message forward with strength, unity, and purpose.
Good for them. And typical of that particular group.

Conversely others feel compelled on X, or Facebook, no doubt on all other social media to list all the complaints they have about Charlie Kirk's beliefs. It would be like going to a family funeral not to support and comfort the grieving but to demonize the dead, tell every awful thing you think he ever thought, did, or wanted to do no matter how hurtful that would be for the grieving.

Erika Kirk honestly is a stronger woman than I am. I pray that I can emulate her Christian convictions.
 
Good for them. And typical of that particular group.

Conversely others feel compelled on X, or Facebook, no doubt on all other social media to list all the complaints they have about Charlie Kirk's beliefs. It would be like going to a family funeral not to support and comfort the grieving but to demonize the dead, tell every awful thing you think he ever thought, did, or wanted to do no matter how hurtful that would be for the grieving.

Erika Kirk honestly is a stronger woman than I am. I pray that I can emulate her Christian convictions.
Yeah, she and Charlie were, and are, exceptional human beings.
 
Good for them. And typical of that particular group.

Conversely others feel compelled on X, or Facebook, no doubt on all other social media to list all the complaints they have about Charlie Kirk's beliefs. It would be like going to a family funeral not to support and comfort the grieving but to demonize the dead, tell every awful thing you think he ever thought, did, or wanted to do no matter how hurtful that would be for the grieving.

Erika Kirk honestly is a stronger woman than I am. I pray that I can emulate her Christian convictions.
 
I have to believe Erika was sincere about forgiving Charlie's murderer because I don't have any reason not to believe her.
And for myself, I am not sure I have it in my heart to forgive Charlie Kirk's murderer.

That is up to Erika to decide to forgive Robinson because she was the person most wronged. But what if she dropped all charges? Could the state still prosecute him or would they have to set him free?

I am of no mind to forgive Robinson because I know he is a brainwashed weapon and unfit to be free in society. Worse, to do any less than execute him, to even send him up for life, would be to minimize the gravity of what he did and to even encourage others.
 
That is up to Erika to decide to forgive Robinson because she was the person most wronged. But what if she dropped all charges? Could the state still prosecute him or would they have to set him free?

I am of no mind to forgive Robinson because I know he is a brainwashed weapon and unfit to be free in society. Worse, to do any less than execute him, to even send him up for life, would be to minimize the gravity of what he did and to even encourage others.
She can request leniency or mercy from the court, but it isn't her call to drop charges in a murder case.
 
You're wrong imo...Commie, Socialist have been used negatively towards liberals ad nauseam.... way way way more than fascist...going all the way back to before Clinton...Fascist is fairly new and is for Trump...Authoritarian is for Trump too and didn't come around with any use, until him....and that's because he is a wanna be and puts it in your face daily!!! No kidding on that! :eek:
And I personally will not stop saying it and calling it out, when it's the truth in my book! Right before our eyes to see!

Trump is trying to get left democrats killed with his powerful and dangerous rhetoric about who he says killed Charlie... Yet you see nothing wrong with it and try to blame us, for Tyler's actions, so people will attack and kill us, in return! If you believe us calling Trump a fascist set Tyler off to murder Charlie, then what is your President doing with the hateful shit he says 24/7 about us liberals? The president of the united states is trying to get us liberals attacked and even killed, by his nutty followers....the President is using this for political posturing against the left, Democrats...Never let a crisis go to waste!

Yet you claim only Democrats are doing that by calling Trump an authoritarian fascist wannabe....and yet are blind as a bat on every thing else that is close to your own home... :dunno:
Why is Trump and MAGAs rhetoric worse than what came from the left? From Biden, other Democrats, their surrogate propaganda machine called the media, calling Trump and MAGAs 'dangerous to our democracy' and 'existential threat to our democracy' etc. etc. etc. as well as Nazi, fascist, stormtroopers, and whatever other dishonest adjectives they come up with and use pretty much non stop?

Trump may label somebody 'Communist' or "Marxist' if that's what they are, but I have never heard him describe Democrats as a 'existential threat to our Democracy', i.e. somebody that should be attacked or murdered. I have never ever heard him or other MAGAs encourage people to get in anyone's faces, to ostracize them, to harass them, etc.
 
You really don't understand? Really?

Fascists kill you. Fascists put your wife in prison. Fascist close down your churches ...

Fascists are literally an existential threat to your very existence.

Someone is going to kill your husband, what do you do.

There is nothing comparable on the Republican/conservative side.. DO you not listen to your politicians, to MSNBC, CNN. 24/7/365 it's "Fascist" "Nazi" "Threat to Democracy" You dismiss the cumulative effect but the assassinations, attempted assassinations, violence against ICE ... bears it out.
You live in make believe land, and are blind at the same time.

Every single one of those threats are at hand, and being done right before your non seeing eyes Rawley!

I can not believe you can not see it???

This is just a tasting of what he has done to cancel out our representation in Congress and defied the laws they passed and his attacks in our institutions....it is no where near up to date though....

 
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Why is Trump and MAGAs rhetoric worse than what came from the left? From Biden, other Democrats
Did you and your compadres call it out? Yes, y'all did, 24/7, 4 years in a row....non stop, without a breath.

Why do you reserve that free speech or concerns, only for you and your side???
 
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You don't think your party's 24/7/365 demonization of ICE agents had anything to do with today's shooting? Really?
The shooter critically shot and injured two immigrants and killed one immigrant, and NOT any ice agents, before killing himself....why is that...?
 
You live in make believe land, and are blind at the same time.

Every single one of those threats are at hand, and being done right before your non seeing eyes Rawley!

I can not believe you can not see it???

This is just a tasting of what he has done to cancel out our representation in Congress and defied the laws they passed and his attacks in our institutions....it is no where near up to date though....

Holy shit care. In your mind you truly believe the Trump administration has target you to kill you. They are going to
put your husband in prison, they are closing down your church and the Trump administration is literally an existential threat to your very existence.

You believe all of those things.
 
Did you and your compadres call it out? Yes, y'all did, 24/7, 4 years in a row....non stop, without a breath.

Why do you reserve that free speech or concerns, only for you and your side???
MAGAS aren't pushing people to attack anybody on the left. They aren't rioting, blocking streets/bridges/businesses. committing arson, vandalism, assault, battery, murder. They aren't telling people to get in the faces of members of government or driving leftists out of restaurants, etc. They aren't doxxing ICE agents, putting their names, addresses, photos on social media, aren't threatening their families and then further demonizing ICE when they protect themselves and their families by wearing masks.

MAGA's response to the murder of a wonderful person they all admired was not to protest/riot/destroy/terrorize but to hold prayer vigils and a magnificent memorial,

Yes they criticize the left and if we have any integrity at all, we will continue to do that when the leftist agenda and policies are unacceptable and indefensible which most of it is. But we don't urge people to commit assault. We encourage people to vote their convictions of what they want this country to be.

There is a world of difference between criticizing a Supreme Court ruling and a U.S. leftist senator standing on their steps publicly calling out justices by name and saying they will reap the whirlwind, they will pay the price. And then Democrats tried to block passage of a bill providing for security for the justices after a man with a gun was arrested at Kavanaugh's home and confessed his intent was to kill Kavanaugh.

Yes there are sick fanatics on the right but they are rare. Leftist violence is no longer rare but is becoming commonplace.

And speech that encourages that should not be either encouraged nor allowed.
 
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