Think Drill Baby Drill Is The Answer To Our Energy Solution? Think Again

[surada]

You seem confused...

Not at all.

 

[para bellum]

Hydro is expensive, period, does not even pay for the cost of the dam. Hydro is powered by rain, not the sun. Look up what Hydro means.

Why do you think it rains? It's called the water cycle. It's powered by the sun.

Venezuela tanked their economy cause they relied on Hydro. Industry literally shut down because Hydro failed.

Venezuela tanked their economy because they are a socialist failed state.

Then of course there is the fact of billions of tons of co2 Hydro emits

Hydro does not emit any CO2. Water flowing downhill is directed through turbines that turn electrical generators. There is no fuel burned, gravity does the work. The water is transported back uphill via evaporation and convection.

The only ongoing cost is maintenance once the capital investment is made.

 

[martybegan]

And what have you read, on dams?
During a drought, how do they do?
Cost?
No such thing as renewable.

I have a master's in Chem E and keep abreast of most engineering topics, including dams and other forms of power generation.

Hoover Dam has been under drought conditions on and off for decades now, and it still generates power.

There is such thing as renewable, but the issue is except for hydro, none of it is suitable for base load generation.

 

[elektra]

I have a master's in Chem E and keep abreast of most engineering topics, including dams and other forms of power generation. Hoover Dam has been under drought condi.tions on and off for decades now, and it still generates power.

A masters in chem e dont mean shit. I work in the energy industry. I just finished working on a Fusion reactor experiment with MIT. Which experience is relevant to energy, or most relevant.
Hoover Dam is under drought conditions?

Big deal, the hoover dam is not a source of water.

The hoover dam is fed by thousands of miles of rivers hence 1000's of years of drought really don't matter.

Decades? I would of stated over a century.

So. How many more places can we build a hoover dam in the USA? Answer, zero.

 

[martybegan]

A masters in chem e dont mean shit. I work in the energy industry. I just finished working on a Fusion reactor experiment with MIT. Which experience is relevant to energy, or most relevant.
Hoover Dam is under drought conditions?

Big deal, the hoover dam is not a source of water.

The hoover dam is fed by thousands of miles of rivers hence 1000's of years of drought really don't matter.

Decades? I would of stated over a century.

So. How many more places can we build a hoover dam in the USA? Answer, zero.

Still hoping fusion is just 25 years away? I've heard that since I was in high school in the 90's.

We can stop removing the ones already in place for starts.

 

[elektra]

Still hoping fusion is just 25 years away? I've heard that since I was in high school in the 90's.

We can stop removing the ones already in place for starts.

I worked on a fusion reactor, the largest one being built yet. This was not being done 25 years ago.

The ones in place are fission, which I assume you know and meant nuclear, in general.

 

[martybegan]

I worked on a fusion reactor, the largest one being built yet. This was not being done 25 years ago.

The ones in place are fission, which I assume you know and meant nuclear, in general.

Duh.

Fusion is the promise that keeps getting pushed back 10 years every 10 years. I wish you guys luck because it will be a game changer, but it's been promised and promised with no commercial results so far.

 

[elektra]

Venezuela tanked their economy because they are a socialist failed state.

No. Venezuela relies on Renewable Energy for electricity. What happened is 3 years of drought simply could not renew the water in the dam that provides electricity.

Renewables failed to renew.

75% of Venezuela's electricity comes from renewables. When renewables failed to renew Venezuela's oil industry suffered do to the lack of energy to operate.

 

[elektra]

Duh.

Fusion is the promise that keeps getting pushed back 10 years every 10 years. I wish you guys luck because it will be a game changer, but it's been promised and promised with no commercial results so far.

This is the biggest experiment to date. I am no longer involved. I don't doubt the powers that be will not allow fusion, just the same as they don't allow fission.

 

[surada]

Why do you think it rains? It's called the water cycle. It's powered by the sun.

Venezuela tanked their economy because they are a socialist failed state.

Hydro does not emit any CO2. Water flowing downhill is directed through turbines that turn electrical generators. There is no fuel burned, gravity does the work. The water is transported back uphill via evaporation and convection.

The only ongoing cost is maintenance once the capital investment is made.

Nope. Read some history. Crony Capitalism wrecked Venezuela. Electing Hugo Chavez was an attempt to get back on track and it worked until the oil price collapsed.

 

[martybegan]

This is the biggest experiment to date. I am no longer involved. I don't doubt the powers that be will not allow fusion, just the same as they don't allow fission.

Fission is allowed, but vilified, and evidently even the green morons are coming around to the realization you would need it for their Fossil fuel elimination plans.

 

[Unkotare]

Duh.

Fusion is the promise that keeps getting pushed back 10 years every 10 years. I wish you guys luck because it will be a game changer, but it's been promised and promised with no commercial results so far.

 

[sealybobo]

Strawman argument.... Nobody has said it's the ONLY answer.

Another day, another skrewsy thread fail.

At an all women pro trump q&a the host asked trump about electronic vehicles. Here was his answer.

“the problem with electronic vehicles and you know Elon musk is a good friend of mine, he endorsed me like, and you saw him the other night in butler Pennsylvania. Was he having a good time?”

The crowd cheered, the host took it to a break and they never came back to the question.

 

[elektra]

At an all women pro trump q&a the host asked trump about electronic vehicles. Here was his answer.

“the problem with electronic vehicles and you know Elon musk is a good friend of mine, he endorsed me like, and you saw him the other night in butler Pennsylvania. Was he having a good time?”

The crowd cheered, the host took it to a break and they never came back to the question.

The question was answered during the break

Either way, the government subsidizes electric cars. They should not. Soon we will have a huge used lithium battery problem.

All thanks to the government making foreign and domestic corporations rich.

 

[sealybobo]

The question was answered during the break

Either way, the government subsidizes electric cars. They should not. Soon we will have a huge used lithium battery problem.

All thanks to the government making foreign and domestic corporations rich.

Can you show me trumps answer? Nope. He never answered the question.

 

[elektra]

Can you show me trumps answer? Nope. He never answered the question.

So what.

Kamala's answer is to spend more money we ain't got

 

[sealybobo]

So what.

Kamala's answer is to spend more money we ain't got

So what trump never answers any questions?

I think independents and undecideds care.

Playing music for 40 minutes at a q&a is weird.

 

[elektra]

So what trump never answers any questions?

I think independents and undecideds care.

Playing music for 40 minutes at a q&a is weird.

Trump has 24 hours of speech, 48 hours, weeks it would take to listen to Trump's speeches.

Got to love how Kamala just exposed her pure stupidity in that fox interview she was purposely late for. Kamala was late to avoid a lengthy interview

 

[sealybobo]

Trump has 24 hours of speech, 48 hours, weeks it would take to listen to Trump's speeches.

Got to love how Kamala just exposed her pure stupidity in that fox interview she was purposely late for. Kamala was late to avoid a lengthy interview

How long does it take to ask 5 good questions? Trump answered 2 questions then played music for 40 minutes. How many questions did he not have to answer?

At an all women pro trump q&a the host asked trump about electronic vehicles. Here was his answer.

“the problem with electronic vehicles and you know Elon musk is a good friend of mine, he endorsed me like, and you saw him the other night in butler Pennsylvania. Was he having a good time?”

The crowd cheered, the host took it to a break and they never came back to the question.

 

[elektra]

How long does it take to ask 5 good questions? Trump answered 2 questions then played music for 40 minutes. How many questions did he not have to answer?

At an all women pro trump q&a the host asked trump about electronic vehicles. Here was his answer.

“the problem with electronic vehicles and you know Elon musk is a good friend of mine, he endorsed me like, and you saw him the other night in butler Pennsylvania. Was he having a good time?”

The crowd cheered, the host took it to a break and they never came back to the question.

Why are you calling for fascism, which what it is when the government creates an industry through rules and regulations and government spending