They're Coming to America.

[Ray From Cleveland]

You don't seem to want to acknowledge the desperate conditions that drive people to flee their homes, their homelands, and face grueling journeys of hundreds of miles in the hope of giving their children a decent life.

If you cannot sympathize, that's unfortunate. In any event, the needed comprehensive immigration reform must promote legal immigration for the sake of the nation.

We have 7.5 billion people on this planet, most of which are from countries where people don't have opportunities, were born poor and will stay that way the rest of their lives, have authoritarian governments, places where children go to bed hungry almost every single night. Tell us, how many of these 7.5 billion people do you want us to let in?

Again, there is nothing wrong with our immigration system now. It wasn't a problem until the Communists found they advance their party by bringing them into this country. Comprehensive immigration reform is just code words for bringing in more third worlders that Americans will have to support.

If you want to eat at the best restaurant in town, you can't just walk in and take a seat like you do at Jack's diner. You need to make reservations, perhaps wait hours to get a table, maybe bribing the maitre d. Now if you just opened the door and let everybody in, it will no longer be the finest restaurant in town. In fact depending on who wants to go there, the people will totally ruin the business.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If the federal government would do its job, ALL of the refugee claimants would be let in, and there would be a fair and reasonable immigration policy in place so that immigrants have a sane and orderly process to deal with.

Oh really? How many of these immigrants would Commida be willing to take in?

 

[Unkotare]

...y. Comprehensive immigration reform is just code words for bringing in more third worlders [sic] that Americans will have to support.

....

Because our current immigration policy is working so well?
???
And no one can even talk about it without you concluding some nefarious purpose?
???
Yeah, that'll make everything all better.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Desperate families fleeing for their lives do not have the power to "demand that Americans provide them with free housing and food."

The moral values that underscore the laws of America are delineated in the Christian corporal works of mercy: Feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, clothe the naked, shelter the homeless, etc.

So because you think that would work in your favor, now it's okay to mix church with state.

 

[schmidlap]

You don’t seem to want to acknowledge that these uneducated, unskilled single men boycotting in front of the fancy Watson Hotel in which they were housed at $500 a night cost to the taxpayer are disturbing the neighborhood with their entitled “gimme, gimme, gimme!” shrieking with their refusal to move to the shelter set up for them at the Cruiseport, also at taxpayer expense.

Just who the F do they think they are? They think that’s the way to win over Americans - by demanding we continue to pay for their upscale hotel stays? And have you seen the conditions of the rooms? They’ve trashed the place, and the taxpayer will now have to compensate the hotel to repair the place to where decent people would want to stay.

Those men need to be rounded up and put on a bus back to wherever they came from.

They are sleeping in the street.​

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Migrants remain defiant, stay camped outside of Hell's Kitchen hotel​

A spokesperson for City Hall said “almost all” the remaining single men outside the Watson decided to get off the streets to somewhere warm.​

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A group of about 50 men who the city attempted to move from the Watson Hotel in Midtown to a refugee camp at the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal in Red Hook are sleeping outside the hotel due to poor conditions at the Brooklyn site.​

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The city evicted about 1,000 single men who had been housed at the hotel in order to replace them with families of asylum seekers.​

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Some of the men who the city bussed to Red Hook on Sunday found the refugee camp to be too cold, with no hot water, uncomfortable cots packed in too close to each other, no privacy, no personal storage space and a lack of easily accessible transportation.​

[Asylum seekers refuse eviction from Midtown hotel to Brooklyn Cruise Terminal, camp outside hotel]​

If you hate the less fortunate, you will fixate upon whatever rejects Christian morality and feeds your hatred.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You don’t seem to want to acknowledge that these uneducated, unskilled single men boycotting in front of the fancy Watson Hotel in which they were housed at $500 a night cost to the taxpayer are disturbing the neighborhood with their entitled “gimme, gimme, gimme!” shrieking with their refusal to move to the shelter set up for them at the Cruiseport, also at taxpayer expense.

Just who the F do they think they are? They think that’s the way to win over Americans - by demanding we continue to pay for their upscale hotel stays? And have you seen the conditions of the rooms? They’ve trashed the place, and the taxpayer will now have to compensate the hotel to repair the place to where decent people would want to stay.

Those men need to be rounded up and put on a bus back to wherever they came from.

They interviewed one of the employees at that hotel. He stated they are destroying the place. The hallways reek of pot, they are having sex in the hall stairways, they are up all night making noise, food is dumped on the floor and left there. What paying customer would want to stay at such a place?

 

[sartre play]

We do need to look at how we handle immigration, Its the insistence that only one political group knows how it should be handled.
When in fact looking at All the issues its just not all that cut & dried.

 

[sartre play]

We may not like it........but America as we knew it is Gone With the Wind.
No going back.

The future will see all wealth and resources consolidated in a few hands and widespread poverty for all others. Servitude for survival.
At some point a massive collapse and die off will occur and we'll go back to being a basic agrarian nation like in 1800's.
This possibly precipitated by war or simply economic collapse and the ensuing chaos.
I do tend to think the whites and blacks will go to war with each other. That'll be bloody and nasty with mass casualties.

All of this is predicated on the assumption Americans remain fully committed to cowardice and doing nothing and making no sacrifices for their freedom and culture. The way it's been and the most likely scenario going forward.

You sound like what Charlie Manson was preaching almost word for word.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We do need to look at how we handle immigration, Its the insistence that only one political group knows how it should be handled.
When in fact looking at All the issues its just not all that cut & dried.

Not that difficult at all. One party wants to live by our laws and the other party wants to change the laws that benefit their party.

 

[Lisa558]

They are sleeping in the street.​

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Migrants remain defiant, stay camped outside of Hell's Kitchen hotel​

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A spokesperson for City Hall said “almost all” the remaining single men outside the Watson decided to get off the streets to somewhere warm.​

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A group of about 50 men who the city attempted to move from the Watson Hotel in Midtown to a refugee camp at the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal in Red Hook are sleeping outside the hotel due to poor conditions at the Brooklyn site.​

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The city evicted about 1,000 single men who had been housed at the hotel in order to replace them with families of asylum seekers.​

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Some of the men who the city bussed to Red Hook on Sunday found the refugee camp to be too cold, with no hot water, uncomfortable cots packed in too close to each other, no privacy, no personal storage space and a lack of easily accessible transportation.​

[Asylum seekers refuse eviction from Midtown hotel to Brooklyn Cruise Terminal, camp outside hotel]​

If you hate the less fortunate, you will fixate upon whatever rejects Christian morality and feeds your hatred.

That’s their choice. They are choosing to sleep in the street and disrupt the peace of Americans instead of going to the shelter set up for them. That choice should be removed from them - either they go to where taxpayers are paying to provide shelter, or they get bussed out of our country.

 

[Lisa558]

They interviewed one of the employees at that hotel. He stated they are destroying the place. The hallways reek of pot, they are having sex in the hall stairways, they are up all night making noise, food is dumped on the floor and left there. What paying customer would want to stay at such a place?

It will take months and a fortune to bring the hotel back to a decent state - and that can only begin to happen once all the illegals are evicted.

 

[Orangecat]

funding Social Security just one of multiple economic and societal needs.

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If that requires new immigrants, you've just identified SS as a ponzi scheme.

 

[Lisa558]

They are sleeping in the street.​

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Migrants remain defiant, stay camped outside of Hell's Kitchen hotel​

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A spokesperson for City Hall said “almost all” the remaining single men outside the Watson decided to get off the streets to somewhere warm.​

​

A group of about 50 men who the city attempted to move from the Watson Hotel in Midtown to a refugee camp at the Brooklyn Cruise Terminal in Red Hook are sleeping outside the hotel due to poor conditions at the Brooklyn site.​

​

The city evicted about 1,000 single men who had been housed at the hotel in order to replace them with families of asylum seekers.​

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Some of the men who the city bussed to Red Hook on Sunday found the refugee camp to be too cold, with no hot water, uncomfortable cots packed in too close to each other, no privacy, no personal storage space and a lack of easily accessible transportation.​

[Asylum seekers refuse eviction from Midtown hotel to Brooklyn Cruise Terminal, camp outside hotel]​

If you hate the less fortunate, you will fixate upon whatever rejects Christian morality and feeds your hatred.

I didn’t see your final, nasty accusation.

I don’t hate the less fortunate. They can apply through normal channels, with the understanding that they will get no taxpayer support. No expensive hotel rooms, no food they throw out because it’s not good enough for them.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

It will take months and a fortune to bring the hotel back to a decent state - and that can only begin to happen once all the illegals are evicted.

And I wouldn't doubt it will ultimately fall on the taxpayers. The Democrat Mayor there said the cost for them to take care of these people will be over 2 billion dollars. Instead of blaming his own party that created this mess he's trying to blame Republicans somehow.

 

[schmidlap]

Nativists and xenophobes would destroy America. Rejecting out heritage (that includes practicing the Christian corporal works of mercy) is a recipe for disaster. Congress must confront its responsibility to institute a realistic, pragmatic legal immigration policy in the interests of all Americans. Not doing so only promotes illegal immigration.

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There's a mountain of myths and misconceptions surrounding Social Security and immigration, legal and otherwise... If you want the truth about immigration, it's that it's an all-around net positive for the Social Security program.​

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What you need to know about legal immigration into the U.S. is simple: It's vital to the health of the Social Security program. Not helpful. Not a nice bonus. Vital!​

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The Social Security program relies on new workers entering the labor force to exceed the number of workers retiring and claiming benefits. ​

[The Truth About Social Security and Immigration | The Motley Fool]​

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By 2021, Trump will have reduced legal immigration by 49% since becoming president – without any change in U.S. immigration law, according to a National Foundation for American Policy analysis. An April presidential proclamation blocked the entry of legal immigrants to the United States in almost all categories.​

Reducing legal immigration most harms refugees, employers and Americans who want to live with their spouses, parents or children, but it also affects the country’s future labor force and economic growth: “Average annual labor force growth, a key component of the nation’s economic growth, will be approximately 59% lower as a result of the administration’s immigration policies, if the policies continue,” according to the National Foundation for American Policy.​

[A Review Of Trump Immigration Policy]​

 

[Lisa558]

And I wouldn't doubt it will ultimately fall on the taxpayers. The Democrat Mayor there said the cost for them to take care of these people will be over 2 billion dollars. Instead of blaming his own party that created this mess he's trying to blame Republicans somehow.

That’s the Dem M.O.: create a problem and then blame the Republicans for it.

 

[lennypartiv]

Refugees or asylum seekers? Which? Do you even know the difference?

Doesn't matter, they're not Americans. We really should build a moat on the border and fill it with alligators.

 

[The Duke]

Doesn't matter, they're not Americans. We really should build a moat on the border and fill it with alligators.

And mines, and sharks with lasers! Lasersharks!

 

[Unkotare]

Doesn't matter, ....

Of course it matters.

 

[The Duke]

Of course it matters.

At this point in time, really not. Because traitors have used the "Asylum" thing to import hundreds of thousands of immigrants into the US that

are hostile to the American way of life.

Total enemies to Western culture. Hispanics from South America/Mexico aren't the worst of our problems. They still believe in God and aren't

as bad as Somalian Muslims that want Sharia law in America.

Still; Almost all the illegals suck up social services (the kind LBJ set up) that are intended for Americans in poverty.

We're feeding and housing millions of invaders on our own citizens' dollars. That's not a sustainable venture at all; And it's not designed to be.

It's the Cloward-Piven strategy to overload the system and take America down.