They Said Biden Wouldn’t Come for Our Guns. The Plan Says Otherwise.

[rightwinger]

My guns have always kept me safe, and they have never shot anyone. They are still residing right where I left them after the last trip to the gun range. They have killed numerous paper targets and other objects over the years.

I have a big stick with a nail in it

Nobody fuks with me

 

[alang1216]

They Said Biden Wouldn’t Come for Our Guns. ​

The Plan Says Otherwise.​

They Said Biden Wouldn’t Come for Our Guns. The Plan Says Otherwise. - Flopping Aces

In 2022, Democrat Rep. Eric Swalwell wrote a piece in Newsweek titled, “President Biden Does Not Want to Take Your Guns Away.” He accused Republicans of

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17 Apr 2025 ~~ By Curt

In 2022, Democrat Rep. Eric Swalwell wrote a piece in Newsweek titled, “President Biden Does Not Want to Take Your Guns Away.” He accused Republicans of spreading fear. “No one is coming for your guns,” he wrote. “We respect the Second Amendment,” he added. He made it sound like the debate was over.
But in 2025, a declassified document proved Swalwell was wrong—and possibly knew it.
On April 16, 2025, then-Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard declassified the Strategic Implementation Plan for Countering Domestic Terrorism.

​

This multi-agency plan had been quietly signed and put into motion by the Biden administration back in June 2021. The contents are alarming. This wasn’t just a strategy to stop violence. It was a roadmap for using federal agencies, public health systems, tech companies, and education programs to track, flag, and isolate what they defined as “domestic threats.”
They didn’t need to say the word “gun ban.” They just rewrote the definitions, rewired the bureaucracy, and laid the foundation to restrict your right to own one.
~Snip~

Bureaucracy Is the Weapon​

Let’s talk about how they planned to do it. The strategy is subtle but powerful:

1. Red Flag Expansion
   The plan urges states to adopt and expand “Extreme Risk Protection Orders.” These let the government take someone’s guns away based on a report from a friend, relative, or even a therapist. You don’t need to be charged. You don’t need to be convicted. Just flagged. The feds also offer grants and technical support to help states get it done faster.
2. Mental Health as a Surveillance Tool
   Agencies like HHS, DOJ, and the VA are tasked with creating training programs for doctors, social workers, and school staff. These programs teach professionals how to identify people who might pose a risk—again, not because they broke a law, but because they showed “warning signs.” You can guess what some of those signs are: isolation, political anger, and interest in gun rights.
3. Digital Literacy Means Narrative Control
   The plan calls for funding “digital literacy” programs to help students and communities identify “extremist content” online. That might sound helpful until you realize it means the federal government will decide what speech is acceptable. Pro-2A content, conspiracy discussions, even satire—any of it could get swept into this net.
4. Watchlists for Domestic Cases
   One of the most chilling parts: the plan calls for expanding databases like TIDE and the Terrorist Screening Database to include domestic cases—even when there’s no foreign connection. These databases are used by law enforcement, employers, and even TSA. Imagine winding up on one because of your Facebook post or your group membership.

​

“We’re Just Trying to Keep You Safe”​

The plan doesn’t propose repealing the Second Amendment. It doesn’t call for door-to-door confiscation. That’s the point. This isn’t an open assault—it’s a quiet chokehold.
They focus on prevention, which sounds good. But prevention means action before a crime. And to do that, the system needs a list. A watchlist. A database. A profile. That’s how you get flagged as a “risk” just for buying the wrong rifle or sharing the wrong meme.
The government doesn’t need to take your gun if it can:

• Flag you as a potential threat.
• Revoke your license
• The government doesn’t need to take your gun if it can:
• Freeze your purchase
• Suspend your carry permit.
• Get a judge to sign off on a red-flag seizure.

~Snip~

What Could Have Happened​

If Biden had won re-election in 2024, this plan would be in full effect right now. The structure was already built. Every pillar—information sharing, pre-crime prevention, law enforcement coordination, and cultural re-education—was mapped out.

You’d have seen:

• More red flag cases with less evidence
• Doctors and therapists quietly reporting patients
• Students flagged for edgy opinions
• Gun owners tracked without charges
• Social media content monitored, suppressed and reported

And all of it runs through agencies that don’t need a warrant or a jury to act.

Bottom Line​

This wasn’t a theory. It was a plan. Signed, implemented, and nearly buried—Donald Trump won the Presidency and Tulsi Gabbard made it public.
Gun rights aren’t just threatened by laws. They’re threatened by systems. When the government redefines law-abiding Americans as potential threats, they don’t need to ban anything. They just need to “protect” you hard enough.
Swalwell said no one was coming for your guns. The Biden administration wrote a 50-page manual showing exactly how they would. They just hoped you wouldn’t notice.


Commentary:
The far-left Neo-Marxist Democrat Globalist gun grabbers are going to find the road to gun confiscation a little tougher after today’s fiasco in Florida. Gun Grabber Mark Kelly is going to have to drag Gabby out and start parading her in front of the Neo- Commies again.
Trump should turn it around and use it against them to round up all the Leftist terrorists running amok.
The democrat plan has always been to disarm the public. I am old enough to remember these lies we have been told since 1962.
We have been told lies for decades by "Democrats".
Promises made by Democrats Thomas J. Dodd and Emanuel Celler in 1962...

1962 We ONLY want to register handguns. Rifles will not be affected!​

1964, We ONLY want to register ALL firearms, not ban them.​

1968 We ONLY want to register all guns, and ban the import of foreign Saturday Night Specials, and 5-shot bolt action army surplus rifles! (they got the ban).​

1970, We ONLY want to ban small American handguns. Rifles will not be affected! 1976 We ONLY want to ban ALL handguns! Rifles will not be affected!​

1981, Actress Lee Grant on Good Morning America (ABC) screams...”THE NRA IS A RIFLE ORGANIZATION! THEY SHOULD GIVE UP THEIR HANDGUNS AND THEY CAN KEEP THEIR RIFLES!”​

1984, they made a grab for the rifles that is still going on today.​

1989 George Bus sr. bans import of “assault rifles”​

1994 Clinton “bans” Assault rifles for ten years.​

2004 calls for a ban on single shot .50 cal rifles.​

2023 Biden: “We are going to ban assault rifles!”​

If they can get any sort of a ban and make it stick, they will then use that to go after their original target, HANDGUNS. They are never satisfied.
1988, Josh Sugarmann, of the National Council to Ban Handguns tells how to ban rifles.
“Assault weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons
—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun— can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on
these weapons.” – Josh Sugarmann
From 1976. -- Nelson T. ‘Pete’ Shields Founder of Handgun Control, Inc.(Now the Brady Center)

“I’m convinced that we have to have federal legislation to build on. We’re going to have to take one step at a time, and the first step is necessarily — given the political realities — going to be very modest. Of course, it’s true that politicians will then go home and say, ‘This is a great law. The problem is solved.’ And it’s also true that such statements will tend to defuse the gun-control issue for a time.​

So then we’ll have to strengthen that law, and then again to strengthen that law, and maybe again and again. Right now, though, we’d be satisfied not with half a loaf but with a slice. Our ultimate goal — total control of handguns in the United States — is going to take time.​

My estimate is from seven to ten years. The problem is to slow down the increasing number of handguns sold in this country. The second problem is to get them all registered. And the final problem is to make the possession of all handguns and all handgun ammunition — except for the military, policemen, licensed security guards, licensed sporting clubs, and licensed gun collectors — TOTALLY ILLEGAL.”​

-Pete Shields, Chairman and founder, Handgun Control Inc., “A Reporter At Large: Handguns,” The New Yorker, July 26, 1976, 57-58

“Yes, I’m for an outright ban [on handguns].”(Now rifles added)​

-Pete Shields, Chairman emeritus, Handgun Control, Inc., 60 Minutes interview

HCI, around 1984, suddenly made a grab for the semi-auto rifles and shotguns, and missed But they showed their hand. As a result all gun owners know we are always up against a stacked deck.​

Gun owners now know that any time we negotiate with those who want to ban guns, we are up against a stacked deck.
NEVER trust a Democrat. My grandfather (may he RIP) told me never to trust an Arab. They're deceitful and thieves. I use the same caution he imbued in me with Democrats..

Not everyone is a supporter of domestic terrorism and school shootings.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I have a big stick with a nail in it

Nobody fuks with me

Come at me with that stick and you will leave full of holes if you can manage not to fall where you stood.

 

[rightwinger]

Come at me with that stick and you will leave full of holes if you can manage not to fall where you stood.

You could get a nasty infection

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You could get a nasty infection

You won't get close enough.

 

[Stryder50]

You are a talker. I will have two chickens.

Sorry, raccoons got my chicks a couple of years ago.

 

[Stryder50]

You have not shown any. And stop the two-party uniparty nonsense, please.

Huge surge of illegal aliens across the border is one clear example anyone should know.

 

[Stryder50]

So how do 400 million guns keep us safe?

We have more guns than any other nation and more gun deaths

Do the math

Try reading the excerpts presented in #34 above. It shows numbers of uses that provided safety.
As mentioned often, more than half those deaths are suicides. Who likely would use other means if a firearm isn't available.
A majority of the rest is criminals doing to other criminals.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Huge surge of illegal aliens across the border is one clear example anyone should know.

If you say so, but offer some solid evidence.

I think the best evidence says that maybe 11mm illegals are here.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

stryder50 cannot answer the problem.

 

[hadit]

So how do 400 million guns keep us safe?

We have more guns than any other nation and more gun deaths

Do the math

We also use sneeze guards at salad bars, but people still get sick. Guns and sneeze guards are a lot alike because you hope you'll never have to use them, but it's nice when they're needed.

 

[hadit]

If you say so, but offer some solid evidence.

I think the best evidence says that maybe 11mm illegals are here.

What makes it the best evidence?

 

[rightwinger]

We also use sneeze guards at salad bars, but people still get sick. Guns and sneeze guards are a lot alike because you hope you'll never have to use them, but it's nice when they're needed.

Sorry Skippy

I never saw anyone shoot up a classroom full of six year olds with a sneeze guard

 

[hadit]

Sorry Skippy

I never saw anyone shoot up a classroom full of six year olds with a sneeze guard

Nor have you seen a gun stop someone from sneezing on a salad bar.

You have, however, seen a man with a gun stop another man with a gun who was in the process of shooting unarmed people.

 

[rightwinger]

Nor have you seen a gun stop someone from sneezing on a salad bar.

You have, however, seen a man with a gun stop another man with a gun who was in the process of shooting unarmed people.

I have seen guns kill a President
Martin Luther King
Sandy Hook
Parkland
Churches, Supermarkets, malls…..

 

[Stryder50]

If you say so, but offer some solid evidence.

I think the best evidence says that maybe 11mm illegals are here.

More likely that is the number entering during Biden's rein.
...
Border officials encountered 11 million unauthorized migrants attempting to enter the US between October 2019 and June 2024.

Data on these border encounters — which include people attempting to enter the country or apprehended trying to cross the border without inspection — helps the government estimate the number of individuals illegally entering the US.
...

Statistics on unauthorized US immigration and US border crossings by year | USAFacts

The US has reported nearly 11 million unauthorized border encounters between October 2019 and June 2024.

usafacts.org

Other sources put the total number before and added during higher, at about 18.6 million in country;
...
As of March 2025, FAIR estimates that approximately 18.6 million illegal aliens reside in the United States. This is 11 percent higher than our June 2023 illegal alien population estimate of 16.8 million.[1]

Since our December 2020 estimate, the illegal alien population in the United States has grown by 4.1 million, or 28.2 percent, reflecting an unprecedented wave of illegal immigration during the Biden administration. The surge in illegal immigration was so large that the U.S. Census Bureau announced just three months ago it has changed its methodology for estimating the foreign-born population to account for it.
....
However;

CHALLENGES ESTIMATING THE ILLEGAL ALIEN POPULATION​

Estimating the size, distribution, and characteristics of the illegal alien population is an inexact science. The methods used by those claiming to have calculated a definitive figure should be viewed skeptically, as there is no completely reliable source of information on illegal aliens. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) only (loosely) counts foreign nationals who enter and leave the United States in a lawful manner, and its illegal alien population estimates remain unhelpful due to underestimating the size of the population and utilizing outdated numbers.[7] In truth, we do not know exactly how many people cross the border illegally and evade immigration authorities, nor can anyone accurately quantify overstays or gotaways. We can only estimate these figures based on annual and monthly census data.

Most of the current estimates regarding the total number of illegal aliens are based on U.S. Census Bureau data. Unfortunately, far too many of these tallies presume that essentially all unlawful migrants are willing to respond to demographic questionnaires and that they provide accurate information to federal officials. As their presence in the United States is the result of a violation of law, many illegal aliens understandably see no personal benefit in revealing any information about their nativity or true immigration status. Therefore, when asked about how, when, and why they entered the United States, illegal aliens have a strong motive to either lie, claiming they are lawful immigrants or citizens, or refuse to respond at all.

Most reputable demographers and researchers have long understood that there is widespread and systematic undercounting in the Census Bureau’s estimate of the foreign-born population because it is difficult to estimate the portion of that population attributable to illegal immigration. Understandably, many illegal aliens are reluctant to engage with government surveys, and many do not even live in residential addresses within the survey pool. Because of this simple fact, older estimates frequently assumed there was a lower response rate of illegal aliens as a portion of the foreign-born population. Indeed, even before the Biden-era, Census publications frequently acknowledged that certain population groups, particularly sections of the foreign-born, have “undercoverage” rates of 10 to nearly 20 percent.[8]
....

How Many Illegal Aliens Are in the United States? 2025 Update | FAIRUS.org

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) now estimates that a record high 18.6 million illegal aliens are living in the United States. That figure represents an 11 percent increase since FAIR’s last estimate of 16.8 million in June 2023 and a 28.2 percent increase over the four...

www.fairus.org

 

[Stryder50]

I have seen guns kill a President
Martin Luther King
Sandy Hook
Parkland
Churches, Supermarkets, malls…..

In places where guns are harder to get hold of, blades, bludgeons, bombs and other devices are used by those intending to murder.
9/11 attack was result of box-cutters, safety razor sized blades. That was close to 3,000 deaths done by eleven(reportedly).

BTW, I doubt you personally were present at any of your listed.

 

[Mac-7]

The guv just wants your guns, doc7505.

Yes, it does

And it wont change now that biden is kaput

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

More likely that is the number entering during Biden's rein.
...
Border officials encountered 11 million unauthorized migrants attempting to enter the US between October 2019 and June 2024.

Data on these border encounters — which include people attempting to enter the country or apprehended trying to cross the border without inspection — helps the government estimate the number of individuals illegally entering the US.
...

Statistics on unauthorized US immigration and US border crossings by year | USAFacts

The US has reported nearly 11 million unauthorized border encounters between October 2019 and June 2024.

usafacts.org

Other sources put the total number before and added during higher, at about 18.6 million in country;
...
As of March 2025, FAIR estimates that approximately 18.6 million illegal aliens reside in the United States. This is 11 percent higher than our June 2023 illegal alien population estimate of 16.8 million.[1]

Since our December 2020 estimate, the illegal alien population in the United States has grown by 4.1 million, or 28.2 percent, reflecting an unprecedented wave of illegal immigration during the Biden administration. The surge in illegal immigration was so large that the U.S. Census Bureau announced just three months ago it has changed its methodology for estimating the foreign-born population to account for it.
....
However;

CHALLENGES ESTIMATING THE ILLEGAL ALIEN POPULATION​

Estimating the size, distribution, and characteristics of the illegal alien population is an inexact science. The methods used by those claiming to have calculated a definitive figure should be viewed skeptically, as there is no completely reliable source of information on illegal aliens. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) only (loosely) counts foreign nationals who enter and leave the United States in a lawful manner, and its illegal alien population estimates remain unhelpful due to underestimating the size of the population and utilizing outdated numbers.[7] In truth, we do not know exactly how many people cross the border illegally and evade immigration authorities, nor can anyone accurately quantify overstays or gotaways. We can only estimate these figures based on annual and monthly census data.

Most of the current estimates regarding the total number of illegal aliens are based on U.S. Census Bureau data. Unfortunately, far too many of these tallies presume that essentially all unlawful migrants are willing to respond to demographic questionnaires and that they provide accurate information to federal officials. As their presence in the United States is the result of a violation of law, many illegal aliens understandably see no personal benefit in revealing any information about their nativity or true immigration status. Therefore, when asked about how, when, and why they entered the United States, illegal aliens have a strong motive to either lie, claiming they are lawful immigrants or citizens, or refuse to respond at all.

Most reputable demographers and researchers have long understood that there is widespread and systematic undercounting in the Census Bureau’s estimate of the foreign-born population because it is difficult to estimate the portion of that population attributable to illegal immigration. Understandably, many illegal aliens are reluctant to engage with government surveys, and many do not even live in residential addresses within the survey pool. Because of this simple fact, older estimates frequently assumed there was a lower response rate of illegal aliens as a portion of the foreign-born population. Indeed, even before the Biden-era, Census publications frequently acknowledged that certain population groups, particularly sections of the foreign-born, have “undercoverage” rates of 10 to nearly 20 percent.[8]
....

How Many Illegal Aliens Are in the United States? 2025 Update | FAIRUS.org

The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) now estimates that a record high 18.6 million illegal aliens are living in the United States. That figure represents an 11 percent increase since FAIR’s last estimate of 16.8 million in June 2023 and a 28.2 percent increase over the four...

www.fairus.org

FAIR is classified as a hate group by SPLC.

 

[Stryder50]

FAIR is classified as a hate group by SPLC.

SPLC = Southern Poverty Law Center is classified as a Marxist, Leftist propaganda and hate group by the Conservatives of the USA.

What I've seen come out of SPLC is more propaganda and disinformation, layered in bias and hate, than anything of objective or factual worth.