They just don't get it!

theliq, MJB12741,, et al,

I was reading an opinion on the subject from a Berkeley Rabble-Rouser (Joseph Anderson) from 17 years ago. I thought it was a good observation of this subject. I adapted it for my own use. But the backbone was his.

Those Zionists are disgusting. What kind of people make peace offerings to Palestinian squatters, build a security fence & grant them their own land so they can remain in the land. Face it you Zionists, no Arab country, who know the Palestinians best, ever treated them like those Zionists in Israel do. Shame on them.
You are completely right MJ about the Zionists,at least we agree on that..steve....Say NO to RABID ZIONISM
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The skewed worldview of Arab Palestinian ideology arises, I believe, from a particular psychological phenomenon. I believe that Arab Palestinains are experiencing, on the level of the dysfunctional government they have as a national psyche, the well-known victim's psychological identification reaction, whereby some of those who once want to imitate the abuse and attack (as European Jews were under Nazism and European anti-Semitism) often go on to abuse and attack Israeli Jews. This is in the false belief that no one else, in the Arab Palestinian's mind, has ever really suffered what they have suffered --- as the modern day victim found a monopoly on "real" pain, and a failure to validate as a real people and government that might contribute something of value to humanity. Such victims (here the Arab Palestinians) think that they could never become brutalizers or oppressors themselves, and that no one else can ever really be brutalized or oppressed by them - no matter what is done at their hands or in their name. Thus, by this belief, Palestinians become the rocket launcher, kidnapping and murderous insurgents that advocate every day for the dismantlement of Israel --- as if they have demonstrated through their deeds, they have something better to contribute to humanity.

This represents a double tragedy, as demonstrated by the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) in after the Israeli withdrawal, they will continue the fight. Granting the Arab Palestinian even more freedoms and responsibility is futile. Like what Albert Einstein said: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

As the Palestinians say: "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors." Take them at their word.

Most Respectfully,
R
Like what Albert Einstein said: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."​

Like bombing the crap out of Gaza every couple years to take out the Resistance.

FAIL!
Or, do you mean like Pal'istanian terrorists waging war against Israel and then complaining when they're given, yet again, another humiliating trashing.

It seems to be a function we can label as Arab Pal'istanian Pathology that causes them to initate the events that cause their own destruction.

Pal'istanian Mentality.
Oooooooo, terrorists. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
theliq, MJB12741,, et al,

I was reading an opinion on the subject from a Berkeley Rabble-Rouser (Joseph Anderson) from 17 years ago. I thought it was a good observation of this subject. I adapted it for my own use. But the backbone was his.

Those Zionists are disgusting. What kind of people make peace offerings to Palestinian squatters, build a security fence & grant them their own land so they can remain in the land. Face it you Zionists, no Arab country, who know the Palestinians best, ever treated them like those Zionists in Israel do. Shame on them.
You are completely right MJ about the Zionists,at least we agree on that..steve....Say NO to RABID ZIONISM
(COMMENT)


The skewed worldview of Arab Palestinian ideology arises, I believe, from a particular psychological phenomenon. I believe that Arab Palestinains are experiencing, on the level of the dysfunctional government they have as a national psyche, the well-known victim's psychological identification reaction, whereby some of those who once want to imitate the abuse and attack (as European Jews were under Nazism and European anti-Semitism) often go on to abuse and attack Israeli Jews. This is in the false belief that no one else, in the Arab Palestinian's mind, has ever really suffered what they have suffered --- as the modern day victim found a monopoly on "real" pain, and a failure to validate as a real people and government that might contribute something of value to humanity. Such victims (here the Arab Palestinians) think that they could never become brutalizers or oppressors themselves, and that no one else can ever really be brutalized or oppressed by them - no matter what is done at their hands or in their name. Thus, by this belief, Palestinians become the rocket launcher, kidnapping and murderous insurgents that advocate every day for the dismantlement of Israel --- as if they have demonstrated through their deeds, they have something better to contribute to humanity.

This represents a double tragedy, as demonstrated by the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) in after the Israeli withdrawal, they will continue the fight. Granting the Arab Palestinian even more freedoms and responsibility is futile. Like what Albert Einstein said: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

As the Palestinians say: "There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors." Take them at their word.

Most Respectfully,
R
Like what Albert Einstein said: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."​

Like bombing the crap out of Gaza every couple years to take out the Resistance.

FAIL!
Or, do you mean like Pal'istanian terrorists waging war against Israel and then complaining when they're given, yet again, another humiliating trashing.

It seems to be a function we can label as Arab Pal'istanian Pathology that causes them to initate the events that cause their own destruction.

Pal'istanian Mentality.
Oooooooo, terrorists. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:


Dead Islamic terrorists behave in very non-threatening ways.
 
People have the inherent right to resist an occupation...The Palestinians with virtually no army resist Israeli Fascist bullets solely with their bodies...

Israel will never defeat such brave people, mark my words!


I can only mark your words as the words of a coward. It's a simple matter to understand your glorification of the death and misery and Pal'stanian arabs because it satiates your rabid Joooooooo hatreds.

Pal'istanian arabs are not brave for throwing their children and their society onto raging bonfires of hatred and self destruction. This sort of murderous hatred is a matter of course in Islamism and its retrograde ideology. There simply isn't any other ideology in the world today, religious or secular, whose adherents willfully and regularly murder unarmed civilians en masse. It comes from Islam, and it comes from rabid haters such as yourself. When I see the dreadful tragedy of what islamism does to people and societies, I get frustrated that they make excuses for where this poisonous hatred and glorification of death comes from.
All your posts are lies and the propaganda of a sick ZioNazi...Hatred does not change facts, scum like you celebrate every non-Jewish death in Palestine...

The World is onto to you and your hollow rants hollie.

That was a wonderfully inept and pointless excuse to promote your inability to respond with a coherent comment.

Coward.
When you reply with a coherent post besides your parroting Jew Jew Jew hatred, douche-bag...
My goodness. Aren't you the angry self-hater.

I can’t help but chuckle at the goofy displays of teenage bravado as people like you sit slack jawed and wide-eyed at this display. I'm sure that a lot of this is a puerile show of bravado for jihad street credibility. However, no matter what your degree of participation in self-hate, Islamic nations are on the wrong side of civilization's war against hateful religious proscriptions.

You know, I think we infidels, while we get wrapped up in our jingoistic, culturally chauvinistic, islamophobic™ (etc. ad nauseam) Western mind-set vis-à-vis Islamic terrorist governance, we tend to overlook the merits of a totalitarian seventh century politico-religious system. I mean, just look at the Pal'istanian dictator / welfare cheat, Mahmoud Abbas. Here we find undeniable proof of the bountiful opportunities afforded the young Moslem (male) under shariah law (and the rabid Joooooo hating knucklehead. Yes, in the islamist political order, a young boy can grow up to be a hateful protagonist. And that same Islamic terrorist... he can one day become—insh'Allah!—the puppet president of the world's premier welfare fraud regime, poised to wage another failed jihad against the Zionist entity


Calling me a self hater you sick delusional right wing ZioNazi? Even in America people are connecting the dots of AIPAC power in America and right wing whacks like you via Ann Coulter...

Americans are beginning to see that Israeli support for right wing kooks bring us misery and Terrorism in our homeland...Like she said, this is not about hate but the Pandering of our elected officials licking the state of Israel.

Like the title says: You just don't get it, dummy...


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/w...r-reality-with-palestine-as-fiction.html?_r=0
JERUSALEM — Israeli settlers have long asserted that the Palestinians are an invented people, that the West Bank’s real name is Judea and Samaria, and that it was liberated by Israeli soldiers in 1967. Now the settlers, apparently worried that their version of history is not reaching other Israelis, are promoting it in a Hebrew-language publication that resembles a comic book.

This week the Yesha Council, the settlers’ umbrella organization, announced that it was printing 10,000 copies of a 22-page booklet titled “Kibush Kishkush,” which translates roughly as “Occupation Baloney.”

With folksy explanations and cartoon-style illustrations, the booklet has already been ridiculed by critics as naïve propaganda. The authors regard the booklet as an easy-to-understand guide to how settlers see reality.
 
I can only mark your words as the words of a coward. It's a simple matter to understand your glorification of the death and misery and Pal'stanian arabs because it satiates your rabid Joooooooo hatreds.

Pal'istanian arabs are not brave for throwing their children and their society onto raging bonfires of hatred and self destruction. This sort of murderous hatred is a matter of course in Islamism and its retrograde ideology. There simply isn't any other ideology in the world today, religious or secular, whose adherents willfully and regularly murder unarmed civilians en masse. It comes from Islam, and it comes from rabid haters such as yourself. When I see the dreadful tragedy of what islamism does to people and societies, I get frustrated that they make excuses for where this poisonous hatred and glorification of death comes from.
All your posts are lies and the propaganda of a sick ZioNazi...Hatred does not change facts, scum like you celebrate every non-Jewish death in Palestine...

The World is onto to you and your hollow rants hollie.

That was a wonderfully inept and pointless excuse to promote your inability to respond with a coherent comment.

Coward.
When you reply with a coherent post besides your parroting Jew Jew Jew hatred, douche-bag...
My goodness. Aren't you the angry self-hater.

I can’t help but chuckle at the goofy displays of teenage bravado as people like you sit slack jawed and wide-eyed at this display. I'm sure that a lot of this is a puerile show of bravado for jihad street credibility. However, no matter what your degree of participation in self-hate, Islamic nations are on the wrong side of civilization's war against hateful religious proscriptions.

You know, I think we infidels, while we get wrapped up in our jingoistic, culturally chauvinistic, islamophobic™ (etc. ad nauseam) Western mind-set vis-à-vis Islamic terrorist governance, we tend to overlook the merits of a totalitarian seventh century politico-religious system. I mean, just look at the Pal'istanian dictator / welfare cheat, Mahmoud Abbas. Here we find undeniable proof of the bountiful opportunities afforded the young Moslem (male) under shariah law (and the rabid Joooooo hating knucklehead. Yes, in the islamist political order, a young boy can grow up to be a hateful protagonist. And that same Islamic terrorist... he can one day become—insh'Allah!—the puppet president of the world's premier welfare fraud regime, poised to wage another failed jihad against the Zionist entity


Calling me a self hater you sick delusional right wing ZioNazi? Even in America people are connecting the dots of AIPAC power in America and right wing whacks like you via Ann Coulter...

Americans are beginning to see that Israeli support for right wing kooks bring us misery and Terrorism in our homeland...Like she said, this is not about hate but the Pandering of our elected officials licking the state of Israel.

Like the title says: You just don't get it, dummy...


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/w...r-reality-with-palestine-as-fiction.html?_r=0
JERUSALEM — Israeli settlers have long asserted that the Palestinians are an invented people, that the West Bank’s real name is Judea and Samaria, and that it was liberated by Israeli soldiers in 1967. Now the settlers, apparently worried that their version of history is not reaching other Israelis, are promoting it in a Hebrew-language publication that resembles a comic book.

This week the Yesha Council, the settlers’ umbrella organization, announced that it was printing 10,000 copies of a 22-page booklet titled “Kibush Kishkush,” which translates roughly as “Occupation Baloney.”

With folksy explanations and cartoon-style illustrations, the booklet has already been ridiculed by critics as naïve propaganda. The authors regard the booklet as an easy-to-understand guide to how settlers see reality.
You identify yourself as a self-hater. I'm just agreeing with your assessment.
 
All your posts are lies and the propaganda of a sick ZioNazi...Hatred does not change facts, scum like you celebrate every non-Jewish death in Palestine...

The World is onto to you and your hollow rants hollie.

That was a wonderfully inept and pointless excuse to promote your inability to respond with a coherent comment.

Coward.
When you reply with a coherent post besides your parroting Jew Jew Jew hatred, douche-bag...
My goodness. Aren't you the angry self-hater.

I can’t help but chuckle at the goofy displays of teenage bravado as people like you sit slack jawed and wide-eyed at this display. I'm sure that a lot of this is a puerile show of bravado for jihad street credibility. However, no matter what your degree of participation in self-hate, Islamic nations are on the wrong side of civilization's war against hateful religious proscriptions.

You know, I think we infidels, while we get wrapped up in our jingoistic, culturally chauvinistic, islamophobic™ (etc. ad nauseam) Western mind-set vis-à-vis Islamic terrorist governance, we tend to overlook the merits of a totalitarian seventh century politico-religious system. I mean, just look at the Pal'istanian dictator / welfare cheat, Mahmoud Abbas. Here we find undeniable proof of the bountiful opportunities afforded the young Moslem (male) under shariah law (and the rabid Joooooo hating knucklehead. Yes, in the islamist political order, a young boy can grow up to be a hateful protagonist. And that same Islamic terrorist... he can one day become—insh'Allah!—the puppet president of the world's premier welfare fraud regime, poised to wage another failed jihad against the Zionist entity


Calling me a self hater you sick delusional right wing ZioNazi? Even in America people are connecting the dots of AIPAC power in America and right wing whacks like you via Ann Coulter...

Americans are beginning to see that Israeli support for right wing kooks bring us misery and Terrorism in our homeland...Like she said, this is not about hate but the Pandering of our elected officials licking the state of Israel.

Like the title says: You just don't get it, dummy...


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/w...r-reality-with-palestine-as-fiction.html?_r=0
JERUSALEM — Israeli settlers have long asserted that the Palestinians are an invented people, that the West Bank’s real name is Judea and Samaria, and that it was liberated by Israeli soldiers in 1967. Now the settlers, apparently worried that their version of history is not reaching other Israelis, are promoting it in a Hebrew-language publication that resembles a comic book.

This week the Yesha Council, the settlers’ umbrella organization, announced that it was printing 10,000 copies of a 22-page booklet titled “Kibush Kishkush,” which translates roughly as “Occupation Baloney.”

With folksy explanations and cartoon-style illustrations, the booklet has already been ridiculed by critics as naïve propaganda. The authors regard the booklet as an easy-to-understand guide to how settlers see reality.
You identify yourself as a self-hater. I'm just agreeing with your assessment.
Like I said: Your posts are hollow hollie, and your stupidity is stupendous because your inventions and distortions of historical facts are obvious.
 
That was a wonderfully inept and pointless excuse to promote your inability to respond with a coherent comment.

Coward.
When you reply with a coherent post besides your parroting Jew Jew Jew hatred, douche-bag...
My goodness. Aren't you the angry self-hater.

I can’t help but chuckle at the goofy displays of teenage bravado as people like you sit slack jawed and wide-eyed at this display. I'm sure that a lot of this is a puerile show of bravado for jihad street credibility. However, no matter what your degree of participation in self-hate, Islamic nations are on the wrong side of civilization's war against hateful religious proscriptions.

You know, I think we infidels, while we get wrapped up in our jingoistic, culturally chauvinistic, islamophobic™ (etc. ad nauseam) Western mind-set vis-à-vis Islamic terrorist governance, we tend to overlook the merits of a totalitarian seventh century politico-religious system. I mean, just look at the Pal'istanian dictator / welfare cheat, Mahmoud Abbas. Here we find undeniable proof of the bountiful opportunities afforded the young Moslem (male) under shariah law (and the rabid Joooooo hating knucklehead. Yes, in the islamist political order, a young boy can grow up to be a hateful protagonist. And that same Islamic terrorist... he can one day become—insh'Allah!—the puppet president of the world's premier welfare fraud regime, poised to wage another failed jihad against the Zionist entity


Calling me a self hater you sick delusional right wing ZioNazi? Even in America people are connecting the dots of AIPAC power in America and right wing whacks like you via Ann Coulter...

Americans are beginning to see that Israeli support for right wing kooks bring us misery and Terrorism in our homeland...Like she said, this is not about hate but the Pandering of our elected officials licking the state of Israel.

Like the title says: You just don't get it, dummy...


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/w...r-reality-with-palestine-as-fiction.html?_r=0
JERUSALEM — Israeli settlers have long asserted that the Palestinians are an invented people, that the West Bank’s real name is Judea and Samaria, and that it was liberated by Israeli soldiers in 1967. Now the settlers, apparently worried that their version of history is not reaching other Israelis, are promoting it in a Hebrew-language publication that resembles a comic book.

This week the Yesha Council, the settlers’ umbrella organization, announced that it was printing 10,000 copies of a 22-page booklet titled “Kibush Kishkush,” which translates roughly as “Occupation Baloney.”

With folksy explanations and cartoon-style illustrations, the booklet has already been ridiculed by critics as naïve propaganda. The authors regard the booklet as an easy-to-understand guide to how settlers see reality.
You identify yourself as a self-hater. I'm just agreeing with your assessment.
Like I said: Your posts are hollow hollie, and your stupidity is stupendous because your inventions and distortions of historical facts are obvious.
And for all your pointless bluster and juvenile name-calling, you still haven't managed to refute a single element of my posted comments.
 
When you reply with a coherent post besides your parroting Jew Jew Jew hatred, douche-bag...
My goodness. Aren't you the angry self-hater.

I can’t help but chuckle at the goofy displays of teenage bravado as people like you sit slack jawed and wide-eyed at this display. I'm sure that a lot of this is a puerile show of bravado for jihad street credibility. However, no matter what your degree of participation in self-hate, Islamic nations are on the wrong side of civilization's war against hateful religious proscriptions.

You know, I think we infidels, while we get wrapped up in our jingoistic, culturally chauvinistic, islamophobic™ (etc. ad nauseam) Western mind-set vis-à-vis Islamic terrorist governance, we tend to overlook the merits of a totalitarian seventh century politico-religious system. I mean, just look at the Pal'istanian dictator / welfare cheat, Mahmoud Abbas. Here we find undeniable proof of the bountiful opportunities afforded the young Moslem (male) under shariah law (and the rabid Joooooo hating knucklehead. Yes, in the islamist political order, a young boy can grow up to be a hateful protagonist. And that same Islamic terrorist... he can one day become—insh'Allah!—the puppet president of the world's premier welfare fraud regime, poised to wage another failed jihad against the Zionist entity


Calling me a self hater you sick delusional right wing ZioNazi? Even in America people are connecting the dots of AIPAC power in America and right wing whacks like you via Ann Coulter...

Americans are beginning to see that Israeli support for right wing kooks bring us misery and Terrorism in our homeland...Like she said, this is not about hate but the Pandering of our elected officials licking the state of Israel.

Like the title says: You just don't get it, dummy...


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/w...r-reality-with-palestine-as-fiction.html?_r=0
JERUSALEM — Israeli settlers have long asserted that the Palestinians are an invented people, that the West Bank’s real name is Judea and Samaria, and that it was liberated by Israeli soldiers in 1967. Now the settlers, apparently worried that their version of history is not reaching other Israelis, are promoting it in a Hebrew-language publication that resembles a comic book.

This week the Yesha Council, the settlers’ umbrella organization, announced that it was printing 10,000 copies of a 22-page booklet titled “Kibush Kishkush,” which translates roughly as “Occupation Baloney.”

With folksy explanations and cartoon-style illustrations, the booklet has already been ridiculed by critics as naïve propaganda. The authors regard the booklet as an easy-to-understand guide to how settlers see reality.
You identify yourself as a self-hater. I'm just agreeing with your assessment.
Like I said: Your posts are hollow hollie, and your stupidity is stupendous because your inventions and distortions of historical facts are obvious.
And for all your pointless bluster and juvenile name-calling, you still haven't managed to refute a single element of my posted comments.
point them out!
 
My goodness. Aren't you the angry self-hater.

I can’t help but chuckle at the goofy displays of teenage bravado as people like you sit slack jawed and wide-eyed at this display. I'm sure that a lot of this is a puerile show of bravado for jihad street credibility. However, no matter what your degree of participation in self-hate, Islamic nations are on the wrong side of civilization's war against hateful religious proscriptions.

You know, I think we infidels, while we get wrapped up in our jingoistic, culturally chauvinistic, islamophobic™ (etc. ad nauseam) Western mind-set vis-à-vis Islamic terrorist governance, we tend to overlook the merits of a totalitarian seventh century politico-religious system. I mean, just look at the Pal'istanian dictator / welfare cheat, Mahmoud Abbas. Here we find undeniable proof of the bountiful opportunities afforded the young Moslem (male) under shariah law (and the rabid Joooooo hating knucklehead. Yes, in the islamist political order, a young boy can grow up to be a hateful protagonist. And that same Islamic terrorist... he can one day become—insh'Allah!—the puppet president of the world's premier welfare fraud regime, poised to wage another failed jihad against the Zionist entity


Calling me a self hater you sick delusional right wing ZioNazi? Even in America people are connecting the dots of AIPAC power in America and right wing whacks like you via Ann Coulter...

Americans are beginning to see that Israeli support for right wing kooks bring us misery and Terrorism in our homeland...Like she said, this is not about hate but the Pandering of our elected officials licking the state of Israel.

Like the title says: You just don't get it, dummy...


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/19/w...r-reality-with-palestine-as-fiction.html?_r=0
JERUSALEM — Israeli settlers have long asserted that the Palestinians are an invented people, that the West Bank’s real name is Judea and Samaria, and that it was liberated by Israeli soldiers in 1967. Now the settlers, apparently worried that their version of history is not reaching other Israelis, are promoting it in a Hebrew-language publication that resembles a comic book.

This week the Yesha Council, the settlers’ umbrella organization, announced that it was printing 10,000 copies of a 22-page booklet titled “Kibush Kishkush,” which translates roughly as “Occupation Baloney.”

With folksy explanations and cartoon-style illustrations, the booklet has already been ridiculed by critics as naïve propaganda. The authors regard the booklet as an easy-to-understand guide to how settlers see reality.
You identify yourself as a self-hater. I'm just agreeing with your assessment.
Like I said: Your posts are hollow hollie, and your stupidity is stupendous because your inventions and distortions of historical facts are obvious.
And for all your pointless bluster and juvenile name-calling, you still haven't managed to refute a single element of my posted comments.
point them out!
Already did.
 
...The BDS movement is growing...
The BDS movement is a fart in a hurricane...

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The Reykjavik City Council?

In Iceland?

Really?

O...M...G...it's a circus-flea, right?... bwwwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahahaha... just too frickin' funny...

It's simply amazing, how pro-Palestinian propagandists hold onto that slim thread of international activism, as if it actually meant something significant enough to stand any snowball's chance-in-hell of turning their situation around...

Then again, when you've lost, and your back is to the wall, and there's no hope of reversing the effects of 60+ years of military and political defeats, and when your own neighbor-countries and friends have written you off as Losers, no longer worth the price of trying to intervene...

Ethereal, hot-air fairy-tales like BDS must seem like The Last Great Hope, in a long downward spiral towards oblivion and irrelevancy...

Funny stuff, though, to anyone not on their side, and reasonably well-grounded in Reality...
 
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Where was the " Palestinian State" before 1967? It didn't exist; It never existed . Tell us please what gripes the Arabs had. The "67 Borders" which include Israel being deprived of their Religious Sites will never happen
Really ILOVE,you are somewhat lacking in understanding the past and present schism between Israel and the Palestinians..........you need to learn to LOVE in its true sense,steve

I notice STEVE that you did not answer my question. You are the one who is lacking and in Denial of who instigated the 67 War . You really need to LOVE in the true sense and stop being such a Bigot and a Racist
 
Where was the " Palestinian State" before 1967? It didn't exist; It never existed . Tell us please what gripes the Arabs had. The "67 Borders" which include Israel being deprived of their Religious Sites will never happen
Really ILOVE,you are somewhat lacking in understanding the past and present schism between Israel and the Palestinians..........you need to learn to LOVE in its true sense,steve

I notice STEVE that you did not answer my question. You are the one who is lacking and in Denial of who instigated the 67 War . You really need to LOVE in the true sense and stop being such a Bigot and a Racist
Crikey ILOVE,I elucidated the truth in my post............hardly a bigot or racist,you need to be more LOVING,Israel were nothing prior to 1948,and your justification for you to say "Was there a Palestinian State before 1967" is factious just because Palestine refused nationhood at the same time Israel did (with justification I may add,and for obvious reasons)...No it is you ILOVE who is lacking,How ILOVE can ILOVEUILOVE,if you persist in your denial of the facts and lie............steven
 
Where was the " Palestinian State" before 1967? It didn't exist; It never existed . Tell us please what gripes the Arabs had. The "67 Borders" which include Israel being deprived of their Religious Sites will never happen
Really ILOVE,you are somewhat lacking in understanding the past and present schism between Israel and the Palestinians..........you need to learn to LOVE in its true sense,steve

I notice STEVE that you did not answer my question. You are the one who is lacking and in Denial of who instigated the 67 War . You really need to LOVE in the true sense and stop being such a Bigot and a Racist
Crikey ILOVE,I elucidated the truth in my post............hardly a bigot or racist,you need to be more LOVING,Israel were nothing prior to 1948,and your justification for you to say "Was there a Palestinian State before 1967" is factious just because Palestine refused nationhood at the same time Israel did (with justification I may add,and for obvious reasons)...No it is you ILOVE who is lacking,How ILOVE can ILOVEUILOVE,if you persist in your denial of the facts and lie............steven

Now, Steve

YOU are the one who is lying . The Israelis NEVER refused Statehood . Stop persisting in your Pro Palestinian lies and LOVE .. Instead of hate
 
Where was the " Palestinian State" before 1967? It didn't exist; It never existed . Tell us please what gripes the Arabs had. The "67 Borders" which include Israel being deprived of their Religious Sites will never happen
Really ILOVE,you are somewhat lacking in understanding the past and present schism between Israel and the Palestinians..........you need to learn to LOVE in its true sense,steve

I notice STEVE that you did not answer my question. You are the one who is lacking and in Denial of who instigated the 67 War . You really need to LOVE in the true sense and stop being such a Bigot and a Racist
Crikey ILOVE,I elucidated the truth in my post............hardly a bigot or racist,you need to be more LOVING,Israel were nothing prior to 1948,and your justification for you to say "Was there a Palestinian State before 1967" is factious just because Palestine refused nationhood at the same time Israel did (with justification I may add,and for obvious reasons)...No it is you ILOVE who is lacking,How ILOVE can ILOVEUILOVE,if you persist in your denial of the facts and lie............steven

Now, Steve

YOU are the one who is lying . The Israelis NEVER refused Statehood . Stop persisting in your Pro Palestinian lies and LOVE .. Instead of hate
Well ILOVE,Israel at the time you mention did not actually exist....the weeks and months leading up to Partition in 1948,it was the UN who offered the Jews and Palestinians the offer.....Israel accepted..the Palestinians refused.......so much for your inaccurate post and your comment that I lied.

Look ILOVE there can not be ILOVEILOVE until you stop being so Perfidious........show deep and genuine LOVE in future and stop muddying the water,with your knee-jerk inaccurate reactions....steven......as for your Hate Comment......I am one of the very few here that seeks a peaceful solution to this schism....as I say.....Viva Palestine...Viva Israel...now that's LOVEILOVE
 
If a neighbor shoots through your window...over and over, day after day....

...are you going to listen to the continuous please from the Neighborhood Housing Coalition that you remain passive, tolerant, and NOT respond back with force to defend yourself and that you should possibly give your neighbor things to try to appease them so they will stop shooting at you...

...or are you going to defend yourself and your family by any means possible?

Yeah, I don't see anyone agreeing that they would remain peaceful, hand out flak vests to their family members, tell them to 'stay away from the windows, and try NOT to get shot'....but it's okay to tell Israel that's what THEY should do.

lol
You're not starting the clock at the right time.

The clock starts when you built a fence across your neighbors property. It went from your yard, across his driveway, encircling his car and taking up half his front lawn. Then you told your neighbor, he couldn't be within 20 feet of your fence, or he'd be shot.

As a result, your neighbor lost the use of his vehicle and couldn't go out his own front door for fear of being shot, since it was within 20 of the fence. In fact, you did shoot his 5 year old kid when he got too close to the fence.

After months of trying to get you to remove your fence from his property, and after realizing your donations to local officials wasn't going to remedy the situation, he decided to take measures into his own hands.

Now we can go back to your post for the rest...
 
Where was the " Palestinian State" before 1967? It didn't exist; It never existed . Tell us please what gripes the Arabs had. The "67 Borders" which include Israel being deprived of their Religious Sites will never happen





It didn't exist until 1988, and then in name only, it still does not exist as a sovereign nation
 
The world pressured Israel to return the Gaza Strip to Palestinians. Israel warned that if they did so HAMAS would launch rocket and other attacks from Gaza. The 'world' assured them that would not happen, that the Palestinians only wanted to peacefully settle in Gaza and grow as a people.

Yeah....

THOUSANDS of rockets have been fired from the newly reclaimed Gaza Strip into Israel by HAMAS. HAMAS spent/spends MILLIONS, given to them by us and others, to but rockets and build elaborate tunnels to use to infiltrate into Israel to perpetrate attacks, bombings, and murder. ISREAL was right...the 'world' was wrong.

HAMAS also did / does not want the best for its people. If they did they would not put rocket launchers on the tops of hospitals, in schools (to include a U.N. school), and in neighborhoods / next to houses. If they did they would not shoot and kill their own people who tried to escape / flee those neighborhoods because they did not want to be used as human shields and die as HAMAS martyrs!

The Palestinians were offered recognition among the world's other nations if they would ONLY changed their charter, which calls for the total and utter destruction of Israel....and they rejected it! (In the same way Iran demanded of Obama as part of his PO$ Iran deal that Israel's right to exist NOT be part of their agreement...because they do not think Israel has a right to exist...and OBAMA BETRAYED OUR 'ALLY' AND WENT ALONG WITH IT. Maybe Obama does not believe Israel has a right to exist ,either...)

DESPITE ALL OF THIS, people still continue to attack ISRAEL, call Israel 'paranoid', 'unjustified' in going into an area/nation that is firing hundreds of rockets per month into their country. In the middle of the last Palestinian-Israeli conflict, while HAMAS was firing an un-precedented 100 rockets into Israel in a month, Obama wrote an editorial PRAISING HAMAS' Leader for his 'tolerance and patience' while completely ignoring Netenyahu/Israel who had no other choice but to defend their country, and had this editorial placed in an Israeli news paper!

I dare anyone, any liberal, to claim if Mexico called for the destruction of the US and began firing 100 rockets into Texas (and did so ever 8 - 10 months, although it would NEVER get to that point) the United States would EVER demonstrate the un-realistic tolerance and restraint demanded of Israel. The FACT is, Mexico would be defeated, completely destroyed, by the end of the 2nd week, and could very well become the 51st state.
Stupid and Simplistic Post (and Bullshit) to a complicated situation...but keep trying.................Durr




So the facts of August 2005 did not happen according to your history books, who wrote them mo'mad the illiterate ?
 
Where was the " Palestinian State" before 1967? It didn't exist; It never existed . Tell us please what gripes the Arabs had. The "67 Borders" which include Israel being deprived of their Religious Sites will never happen
Really ILOVE,you are somewhat lacking in understanding the past and present schism between Israel and the Palestinians..........you need to learn to LOVE in its true sense,steve

I notice STEVE that you did not answer my question. You are the one who is lacking and in Denial of who instigated the 67 War . You really need to LOVE in the true sense and stop being such a Bigot and a Racist
Crikey ILOVE,I elucidated the truth in my post............hardly a bigot or racist,you need to be more LOVING,Israel were nothing prior to 1948,and your justification for you to say "Was there a Palestinian State before 1967" is factious just because Palestine refused nationhood at the same time Israel did (with justification I may add,and for obvious reasons)...No it is you ILOVE who is lacking,How ILOVE can ILOVEUILOVE,if you persist in your denial of the facts and lie............steven

Now, Steve

YOU are the one who is lying . The Israelis NEVER refused Statehood . Stop persisting in your Pro Palestinian lies and LOVE .. Instead of hate
Well ILOVE,Israel at the time you mention did not actually exist....the weeks and months leading up to Partition in 1948,it was the UN who offered the Jews and Palestinians the offer.....Israel accepted..the Palestinians refused.......so much for your inaccurate post and your comment that I lied.

Look ILOVE there can not be ILOVEILOVE until you stop being so Perfidious........show deep and genuine LOVE in future and stop muddying the water,with your knee-jerk inaccurate reactions....steven......as for your Hate Comment......I am one of the very few here that seeks a peaceful solution to this schism....as I say.....Viva Palestine...Viva Israel...now that's LOVEILOVE





WRONG AGAIN as it was the LoN mandate of Palestine that offered the Jews the land for their NATIONal home. The arab muslims were offered trans Jordan at the same time and turned it down. This led to the 1947 war with the Jews because the arab muslims wanted it all. and wont rest until they own the world.
 
If a neighbor shoots through your window...over and over, day after day....

...are you going to listen to the continuous please from the Neighborhood Housing Coalition that you remain passive, tolerant, and NOT respond back with force to defend yourself and that you should possibly give your neighbor things to try to appease them so they will stop shooting at you...

...or are you going to defend yourself and your family by any means possible?

Yeah, I don't see anyone agreeing that they would remain peaceful, hand out flak vests to their family members, tell them to 'stay away from the windows, and try NOT to get shot'....but it's okay to tell Israel that's what THEY should do.

lol
You're not starting the clock at the right time.

The clock starts when you built a fence across your neighbors property. It went from your yard, across his driveway, encircling his car and taking up half his front lawn. Then you told your neighbor, he couldn't be within 20 feet of your fence, or he'd be shot.

As a result, your neighbor lost the use of his vehicle and couldn't go out his own front door for fear of being shot, since it was within 20 of the fence. In fact, you did shoot his 5 year old kid when he got too close to the fence.

After months of trying to get you to remove your fence from his property, and after realizing your donations to local officials wasn't going to remedy the situation, he decided to take measures into his own hands.

Now we can go back to your post for the rest...




No the clock starts when you murder innocent children with bombs and missiles that forces the building of a fence to stop you from planting the bombs. As a further measure of safety you were told come within 20 foot of the fence and you will be shot on suspicion of planting a bomb. If you then tell your children to go close to the fence to see if it is true then you are a coward and deserve to die yourself. Doesn't America, the land of the free, not also have these fences in place and shoots people that cross them regularly ?
 
If a neighbor shoots through your window...over and over, day after day....

...are you going to listen to the continuous please from the Neighborhood Housing Coalition that you remain passive, tolerant, and NOT respond back with force to defend yourself and that you should possibly give your neighbor things to try to appease them so they will stop shooting at you...

...or are you going to defend yourself and your family by any means possible?

Yeah, I don't see anyone agreeing that they would remain peaceful, hand out flak vests to their family members, tell them to 'stay away from the windows, and try NOT to get shot'....but it's okay to tell Israel that's what THEY should do.

lol
You're not starting the clock at the right time.

The clock starts when you built a fence across your neighbors property. It went from your yard, across his driveway, encircling his car and taking up half his front lawn. Then you told your neighbor, he couldn't be within 20 feet of your fence, or he'd be shot.

As a result, your neighbor lost the use of his vehicle and couldn't go out his own front door for fear of being shot, since it was within 20 of the fence. In fact, you did shoot his 5 year old kid when he got too close to the fence.

After months of trying to get you to remove your fence from his property, and after realizing your donations to local officials wasn't going to remedy the situation, he decided to take measures into his own hands.

Now we can go back to your post for the rest...




No the clock starts when you murder innocent children with bombs and missiles that forces the building of a fence to stop you from planting the bombs. As a further measure of safety you were told come within 20 foot of the fence and you will be shot on suspicion of planting a bomb. If you then tell your children to go close to the fence to see if it is true then you are a coward and deserve to die yourself. Doesn't America, the land of the free, not also have these fences in place and shoots people that cross them regularly ?
The clock started when the Western Powers decided that they would create safe-haven for Jews when in fact have created a living hell for them and the Palestinians who unjustly were disenfranchised from ancestral lands.

That disenfranchisement continues Today!
 
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Really ILOVE,you are somewhat lacking in understanding the past and present schism between Israel and the Palestinians..........you need to learn to LOVE in its true sense,steve

I notice STEVE that you did not answer my question. You are the one who is lacking and in Denial of who instigated the 67 War . You really need to LOVE in the true sense and stop being such a Bigot and a Racist
Crikey ILOVE,I elucidated the truth in my post............hardly a bigot or racist,you need to be more LOVING,Israel were nothing prior to 1948,and your justification for you to say "Was there a Palestinian State before 1967" is factious just because Palestine refused nationhood at the same time Israel did (with justification I may add,and for obvious reasons)...No it is you ILOVE who is lacking,How ILOVE can ILOVEUILOVE,if you persist in your denial of the facts and lie............steven

Now, Steve

YOU are the one who is lying . The Israelis NEVER refused Statehood . Stop persisting in your Pro Palestinian lies and LOVE .. Instead of hate
Well ILOVE,Israel at the time you mention did not actually exist....the weeks and months leading up to Partition in 1948,it was the UN who offered the Jews and Palestinians the offer.....Israel accepted..the Palestinians refused.......so much for your inaccurate post and your comment that I lied.

Look ILOVE there can not be ILOVEILOVE until you stop being so Perfidious........show deep and genuine LOVE in future and stop muddying the water,with your knee-jerk inaccurate reactions....steven......as for your Hate Comment......I am one of the very few here that seeks a peaceful solution to this schism....as I say.....Viva Palestine...Viva Israel...now that's LOVEILOVE





WRONG AGAIN as it was the LoN mandate of Palestine that offered the Jews the land for their NATIONal home. The arab muslims were offered trans Jordan at the same time and turned it down. This led to the 1947 war with the Jews because the arab muslims wanted it all. and wont rest until they own the world.
WRONG AGAIN as it was the LoN mandate of Palestine that offered the Jews the land for their NATIONal home.​

WRONG AGAIN the mandate said that the Jews could live in Palestine as Palestinian citizens.
 

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