They Don’t Just Hate America, They Hate Civilization

[Rigby5]

"FBI confirms there was no insurrection on Jan.

Agreed.
And I think the 2 false impeachments, fake insurrection trials, covid insanity, illegal search, etc., are attempts to anger people to violent revolution?
I have always voted democrat, but these actions by democrats have made me extremely angry at the democratic party.

 

[Rigby5]

Dufus thinks something can be free at no cost.

Wrong.
The point is that you pay for infrastructure through income or property tax, based on ability to pay.
You do NOT tax the poor who have no choice and make them pay as more than the wealthy who won't even have to use that infrastructure because its beneath them.

It is the same reason why poll taxes, toll roads, etc., are inherently unethical, unfair, etc., and should be illegal.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Wrong.
The point is that you pay for infrastructure through income or property tax, based on ability to pay.
You do NOT tax the poor who have no choice and make them pay as more than the wealthy who won't even have to use that infrastructure because its beneath them.

It is the same reason why poll taxes, toll roads, etc., are inherently unethical, unfair, etc., and should be illegal.

Let’s have free taxes then, Dufus.

 

[Rigby5]

Yes and no. The government paid to put the subways in ( our tax dollars ). The privilege to use them must be paid by the user. It's the source of income that keeps the subways running. Most of the people who use the subways are poorer people. I could see a discounted rate for a really needy, but the government can't keep paying to keep them running and running. That's our obligation.

Wrong.
The subway generates massive income for urban businesses, and it is they who should be shouldering all the cost, as their fair share.

It is not a privilege to use subways, but a requirement burden imposed by the city planners who force the poor to live further out, aways from where all the jobs, money, goods, etc., are.

 

[Stann]

Agreed.
And I think the 2 false impeachments, fake insurrection trials, covid insanity, illegal search, etc., are attempts to anger people to violent revolution?
I have always voted democrat, but these actions by democrats have made me extremely angry at the democr )atic party.

Well the first leader of the old keepers just played a guilty two sedition ( the ACT of staging an interaction ) . Saying they made plans in advance. Correct no one will be charged with insurrection because it wasn't a successful one. All that can be charged with is sedition.

 

[Stann]

Wrong.
The subway generates massive income for urban businesses, and it is they who should be shouldering all the cost, as their fair share.

It is not a privilege to use subways, but a requirement burden imposed by the city planners who force the poor to live further out, aways from where all the jobs, money, goods, etc., are.

LOL, your life is so difficult.

 

[Rigby5]

Let’s have free taxes then, Dufus.

Wrong.
Taxes are supposed to be the most fair, based on ability to pay.
The idea being those who are profiting from the system the most, should then pay the most.
The poor being forced to live further aways from jobs, goods, etc., are not the ones profiting from subways.
They are the ones being forced to spend more time to get to the meager opportunities they are allowed.
It is the wealthy who are profiting from the high rent urban centers and are the ones forcing the poor into more distant ghettos.
Payment for infrastructure should be progressive, where those profiting from it should pay for it.
And the people profiting from subways are those who own the central real estate that the poor have to take the subway in to get to.
The ones forced to travel are not the ones profiting from it.
They should be paid for their forced travel time, not forced to pay a fare as if the subway ride is some sort of privilege.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Wrong.
Taxes are supposed to be the most fair, based on ability to pay.
The idea being those who are profiting from the system the most, should then pay the most.
The poor being forced to live further aways from jobs, goods, etc., are not the ones profiting from subways.
They are the ones being forced to spend more time to get to the meager opportunities they are allowed.
It is the wealthy who are profiting from the high rent urban centers and are the ones forcing the poor into more distant ghettos.
Payment for infrastructure should be progressive, where those profiting from it should pay for it.
And the people profiting from subways are those who own the central real estate that the poor have to take the subway in to get to.
The ones forced to travel are not the ones profiting from it.
They should be paid for their forced travel time, not forced to pay a fare as if the subway ride is some sort of privilege.

The claim was getting free things.
Only an ignoramus thinks anything supplied by the government is free.

 

[Rigby5]

Well the first leader of the old keepers just played a guilty two sedition ( the ACT of staging an interaction ) . Saying they made plans in advance. Correct no one will be charged with insurrection because it wasn't a successful one. All that can be charged with is sedition.

Sedition is an evil aberration of law that was created for WWI.
Those who passed sedition legislation then were criminal traitors, and those who use sedition laws are criminal traitors now as well.

In a REAL democratic republic, it is supposed to be legal to disseminate the idea the reality that government is inherently corrupt and should be periodically removed by force when necessary.
Thos who claim that we only needed a violent revolution once, and from then on revolution will never again be justified or necessary, obviously are criminal liars.

Of course I do not like the idea of "violent revolution" and violence often just makes things worse.
But clearly the US government has often been totally criminal and in violation of inherent rights.
WWI and the draft for it are obvious examples.
Vietnam, the invasion of Iraq, the War on Drugs, mandated sentence, etc. are all horrendously criminal acts that should never have been tolerated.
Whether or not they warranted violent revolution or not is very unclear.
They are vastly more criminal than a broke teen jumping a turnstile.

 

[Rigby5]

The claim was getting free things.
Only an ignoramus thinks anything supplied by the government is free.

Wrong.
The claim I made was that things should be fair, and that the wealthy who profit from the poor commuters are the ones who should be paying for the subways.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Wrong.
The claim I made was that things should be fair, and that the wealthy who profit from the poor commuters are the ones who should be paying for the subways.

Not what I responded to.
Everything supplied by the government is costly.

So why are Democrat controlled cities screwing the poor on every issue, this one of them?

 

[Rigby5]

Does that actually surprise you about the felons. They know

You act surprised about that result. Felons know that all Republicans want to do is punish, they also know that Democrats want to rehabilitate. There's a big difference there.

Over half the felons are on drug charges that should not even be criminal at all, much less felonies.
So obviously police are illegally using drug charge bias in order to prevent millions of people from voting.
Not is it inherently criminal to arrest over drugs, but obviously it is inherently criminal to prevent felons from voting.
It is taxation without representation.

 

[Rigby5]

Your last statement is ridiculous. The founding fathers were largely made up of enlightened gentlemen; they downplayed the importance of religion because of all the infighting between the different Christian sects. And the English background made them certain that they did not want to establish any type of State religion. The United States was founded as a financial / prosperity venture.

And the separation of church and state is why abortion was legal until after the Civil War, and only then did religion begin to illegal creep back into politics again.

Anyone attempting to criminalize abortion is clearly a criminal religious zealot who is trying to violate the rights of those with different religious views.

 

[Rigby5]

Not what I responded to.
Everything supplied by the government is costly.

So why are Democrat controlled cities screwing the poor on every issue, this one of them?

And the payment for infrastructure that the wealthy profit from should be paid by the wealthy.

Since I don't see either party doing anything for the poor, like making taxes fair, making health care affordable, creating the career education everyone needs, staying out of wars, balancing the budget, etc., this should not become partisan.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Over half the felons are on drug charges that should not even be criminal at all, much less felonies.
So obviously police are illegally using drug charge bias in order to prevent millions of people from voting.
Not is it inherently criminal to arrest over drugs, but obviously it is inherently criminal to prevent felons from voting.
It is taxation without representation.

Oh goody! Another ‘let’s give everyone heroin’ Leftard!

THE MASSES MUST BE CONTROLLED!!!

 

[Weatherman2020]

And the payment for infrastructure that the wealthy profit from should be paid by the wealthy.

Since I don't see either party doing anything for the poor, like making taxes fair, making health care affordable, creating the career education everyone needs, staying out of wars, balancing the budget, etc., this should not become partisan.

Like my other thread on this, you Leftards do nothing to help the poor, you always want someone else to do it.

Us on the right and center volunteer our time and money to help the needy.

 

[Rigby5]

Oh goody! Another ‘let’s give everyone heroin’ Leftard!

THE MASSES MUST BE CONTROLLED!!!

The more you try to criminalize any activity, the more it becomes profitable and entices more salesmen.
That was proven with Prohibition.
It again is obvious with drugs.

The problems become the smallest if NOT turned into criminal justice bureaucracy, but instead kept as medical ones.

There is no legal basis for any drug legislation.
The only legal basis for any legislation is the defense of inherent individual rights.
Drug laws defend the rights of NO ONE.

 

[Rigby5]

Like my other thread on this, you Leftards do nothing to help the poor, you always want someone else to do it.

Us on the right and center volunteer our time and money to help the needy.

You don't know how to help the "needy".
They do not need handouts, but decent jobs, training, fair taxes (such as rent tax exemption), career opportunities, protection from discrimination, collective bargaining, etc.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

There is nothing in their lives and they have a lot of free time to make very happy well adjusted people miserable

^^^ This right here is the delusion magaturds live under. The Karens among us.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

The State is supposed to stay out of the affairs of the church. You want to pretend otherwise

Otherwise is the truth.