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For a bunch of people who would rather poke their eyes out than watch one second of the hearings you're pretty certain about what is going on.
quid pro quo isn't corruption pre se. Most relationships are quid pro quo. Do you even know what quid pro quo means?Dummy, he talks about a quid pro quo arrangement and saying any such arrangement is fine because it involves foreign policy.
That is blatantly wrong. Corruption is corruption and it doesn't matter if it is part of foreign or domestic policy by the president.
When Trump held up millitary aid to Ukraine to push Ukranian administration for a public investigation of his political opposition he clearly put his own interests before American foreign policy interests. He clearly commited a corrupt act and was deservingly impeached for it.
You completely miss the point.quid pro quo isn't corruption pre se. Most relationships are quid pro quo. Do you even know what quid pro quo means?
hahaha and trump didn't do any of that....that was all Adam Shifty parody you are repeating
and the poster didn't say anything about an inappropriate arrangement.You completely miss the point.
There are appropriate something-for-something arrangements and there are in-apropriate arrangements.
That difference however is not defined by domestic vs foreign policy difference.
When the other poster claimed that quid pro quo can't be inapropriate when it comes to acts of foreign policy he was blatantly wrong - yes it is very possible to conduct corrupt foreign policy and yes, thats exactly what Trump engaged in.
....If it wasn't inapropriate then what the hell is the point of trying to excuse it by claiming it to be part of foreign policy?and the poster didn't say anything about an inappropriate arrangement.
nothing trump did with ukraine was inappropriate...unless you are a Putin puppet that didn't want him sending them weapons, or unless you were part of a corrupt business over there like the Xiden family.
It was part of foreign policy....Ukraine is a foreign country....nobody is excusing it, it was a legit thing to do.....If it wasn't inaproprite then what the hell is the point of trying to excuse it by claiming it to be part of foreign policy?
Are you seriously this dumb or do you think everyone else is?
Dummy, he talks about a quid pro quo arrangement and saying any such arrangement is fine because it involves foreign policy.
That is blatantly wrong. Corruption is corruption and it doesn't matter if it is part of foreign or domestic policy by the president.
When Trump held up millitary aid to Ukraine to push Ukranian administration for a public investigation of his political opposition he clearly put his own interests before American foreign policy interests. He clearly commited a corrupt act and was deservingly impeached for it.
Horseshit.It was part of foreign policy....Ukraine is a foreign country....nobody is excusing it, it was a legit thing to do.
hhahahha of course there could be....No moron, there many corrupt acts that could involve Ukraine.
If Trump took a bribe to hold back millitary aid to Ukraine, would that be a corrupt, impeachable offense? OF COURSE it would be and the fact that it was part of foreign policy would not change that fact in any shape or form.
Trump CORRUPTLY pressured Ukraine for his personal electortal interests and against American foreign policy interests.
He bragged about conducting good foreign policy. He bragged about forcing Ukraine to remove a corrupt prosecutor, as part of our goals to clean up Ukraine's act.Xiden certainly did. He bragged about it.
Trump did not.
"hahha" thanks for agreeing with my point compeletely, but wasting everyone's time by taking 6 posts to finally get it.hhahahha of course there could be....
Okay but stay focused. What Trump did was treasonist. Did they get something wrong?
Let me give you an example. Trump got on TV and told the proud boys to stand by. A guy like you will argue that's not evidence he's coordinating with them. Don't worry. We have more evidence.
Are you trying to pull a johnny cockren? Remember he got OJ off just because Mark Furhman lied about never saying the N word? You know despite whatever this is you're showing us, Trump is guilty as fuck. And you try to downplay the insurrection? Do you still after watching all that video footage?
Facts say you are full of shit.no trump didn't do anything of the sort...
I didn't agree with your point completely...you made zero sense. Nobody ever said people couldn't do things that were corrupt....the point being made was that a quid pro relationship isn't always corrupt."hahha" thanks for agreeing with my point compeletely, but wasting everyone's time by taking 6 posts to finally get it.
Nothing about Trump's actions is excused by the fact that it was foreign policy.
Moron, you notice how you are not mentioning FOREIGN POLICY? Because you've agreed with my point that it is an irrelevant distiction here.I didn't agree with your point completely...you made zero sense. Nobody ever said people couldn't do things that were corrupt....the point being made was that a quid pro relationship isn't always corrupt.
It was perfectly corrupt.Nobody is making any excuse for what Trump did, it was perfectly legit.
I don't disagree...you can have corrupt acts in both foreign and domestic policies....but something being a quid pro is not corruption per se.Moron, you notice how you are not mentioning FOREIGN POLICY? Because you've agreed with my point that it is an irrelevant distiction here.
Yes you do agree with that point completely, you just don't have even most basic honesty in your arguments to ever admit anything at all.
ahhah there was nothing corrupt about it....was Xiden corrupt when he threatened to withhold billions if someone wasn't fired? Was he corrupt when as President he did without military aid until after he met with Putin?It was perfectly corrupt.
Trump abused his office and illegally held up millitary aid to try to force a foreign country to publicly investigate his political opposition.
These are the facts and thats what he was impeached for.
ahhah there was nothing corrupt about it...
Biden forcing Ukraine to remove a corrupt investigator was directly in line with our foreign policy goal of getting Ukraine to address it's corruption. It was an action supported by IMF, DoS, Ukrainian corruption watch groups and prosecutor's own deputy who described that office as the swamp.was Xiden corrupt when he threatened to withhold billions if someone wasn't fired?
