There will NOT be an Ukranian Peace Deal

[Contumacious]

There cannot be a peace deal when President Trump only proposes that Russia keep Crimea, which Russia did not take in war but in an unanimous vote of the population in Crimea to be reunited with Russia from which Crimea had been torn.

Trump has not included in the deal Russian Donbas, which also voted to be returned to Russia or the other Russian areas that Russian forces have liberated and have been reincorporated into Russia.


In other words, so far, other than Crimea, President Trump has offered President Putin none of the former Russian territory that is now again part of Russia herself. Is the implication that Putin must hand back to Ukraine the territory from which Russian soldiers have driven out Ukrainian soldiers? So Putin’s 3+ years of war was all for nothing?

There Will Be No Ukrainian Peace Deal​

By Paul Craig Roberts



April 24, 2025

There Will Be No Ukrainian Peace Deal - LewRockwell

There cannot be a peace deal when President Trump only proposes that Russia keep Crimea, which Russia did not take in war but in an unanimous vote of the population in Crimea to be reunited with Russia from which Crimea had been torn. Trump has not included in the deal Russian Donbas, which also...

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[rightwinger]

What is Putin offering?

 

[mudwhistle]

There cannot be a peace deal when President Trump only proposes that Russia keep Crimea, which Russia did not take in war but in an unanimous vote of the population in Crimea to be reunited with Russia from which Crimea had been torn.

Trump has not included in the deal Russian Donbas, which also voted to be returned to Russia or the other Russian areas that Russian forces have liberated and have been reincorporated into Russia.


In other words, so far, other than Crimea, President Trump has offered President Putin none of the former Russian territory that is now again part of Russia herself. Is the implication that Putin must hand back to Ukraine the territory from which Russian soldiers have driven out Ukrainian soldiers? So Putin’s 3+ years of war was all for nothing?

There Will Be No Ukrainian Peace Deal​

By Paul Craig Roberts



April 24, 2025

There Will Be No Ukrainian Peace Deal - LewRockwell

There cannot be a peace deal when President Trump only proposes that Russia keep Crimea, which Russia did not take in war but in an unanimous vote of the population in Crimea to be reunited with Russia from which Crimea had been torn. Trump has not included in the deal Russian Donbas, which also...

www.lewrockwell.com

Democraps are why we had a war in the first place.

Do you think they'll try to end the war?

Figure the odds.

 

[kyzr]

Democraps are why we had a war in the first place.
Do you think they'll try to end the war? Figure the odds.

How much money did the Bidens get from Ukraine? Hint: $millions

 

[kyzr]

There cannot be a peace deal when President Trump only proposes that Russia keep Crimea, which Russia did not take in war but in an unanimous vote of the population in Crimea to be reunited with Russia from which Crimea had been torn.
Trump has not included in the deal Russian Donbas, which also voted to be returned to Russia or the other Russian areas that Russian forces have liberated and have been reincorporated into Russia.
In other words, so far, other than Crimea, President Trump has offered President Putin none of the former Russian territory that is now again part of Russia herself. Is the implication that Putin must hand back to Ukraine the territory from which Russian soldiers have driven out Ukrainian soldiers? So Putin’s 3+ years of war was all for nothing?

Ukraine and Russia are the EU's problem now. The US wasted too much money there already.

 

[mudwhistle]

How much money did the Bidens get from Ukraine? Hint: $millions

Ukraine is funding assassinations against Trump.....and is most likely trying to create another COVID pandemic.

But the reason so many celebrities went to Ukraine was the under-age hookers.

 

[konradv]

There cannot be a peace deal when President Trump only proposes that Russia keep Crimea, which Russia did not take in war but in an unanimous vote of the population in Crimea to be reunited with Russia from which Crimea had been torn.

Trump has not included in the deal Russian Donbas, which also voted to be returned to Russia or the other Russian areas that Russian forces have liberated and have been reincorporated into Russia.


In other words, so far, other than Crimea, President Trump has offered President Putin none of the former Russian territory that is now again part of Russia herself. Is the implication that Putin must hand back to Ukraine the territory from which Russian soldiers have driven out Ukrainian soldiers? So Putin’s 3+ years of war was all for nothing?

There Will Be No Ukrainian Peace Deal​

By Paul Craig Roberts



April 24, 2025

There Will Be No Ukrainian Peace Deal - LewRockwell

There cannot be a peace deal when President Trump only proposes that Russia keep Crimea, which Russia did not take in war but in an unanimous vote of the population in Crimea to be reunited with Russia from which Crimea had been torn. Trump has not included in the deal Russian Donbas, which also...

www.lewrockwell.com

How does Trump “offer” a part of a country to a third country? The man is delusional, if he thinks the Ukrainians will accept the deal.

 

[konradv]

Ukraine is funding assassinations against Trump.....and is most likely trying to create another COVID pandemic.

But the reason so many celebrities went to Ukraine was the under-age hookers.

MAGA lies.

 

[whitehall]

Sounds like wishful thinking by the (formerly) anti-war left.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[Zincwarrior]

There cannot be a peace deal when President Trump only proposes that Russia keep Crimea, which Russia did not take in war but in an unanimous vote of the population in Crimea to be reunited with Russia from which Crimea had been torn.

Trump has not included in the deal Russian Donbas, which also voted to be returned to Russia or the other Russian areas that Russian forces have liberated and have been reincorporated into Russia.


In other words, so far, other than Crimea, President Trump has offered President Putin none of the former Russian territory that is now again part of Russia herself. Is the implication that Putin must hand back to Ukraine the territory from which Russian soldiers have driven out Ukrainian soldiers? So Putin’s 3+ years of war was all for nothing?

There Will Be No Ukrainian Peace Deal​

By Paul Craig Roberts



April 24, 2025

There Will Be No Ukrainian Peace Deal - LewRockwell

There cannot be a peace deal when President Trump only proposes that Russia keep Crimea, which Russia did not take in war but in an unanimous vote of the population in Crimea to be reunited with Russia from which Crimea had been torn. Trump has not included in the deal Russian Donbas, which also...

www.lewrockwell.com

Putin thanks you for your service Comrade.

 

[Meister]

Ukraine is funding assassinations against Trump.....and is most likely trying to create another COVID pandemic.

But the reason so many celebrities went to Ukraine was the under-age hookers.

I worked with a guy several years ago that was hooked on sex trips.
One being to Ukraine. Last I heard he knocked up some little girl
and needed money to pay off the parents in the Philippines.

 

[Man With A Plan]

How does Trump “offer” a part of a country to a third country? The man is delusional, if he thinks the Ukrainians will accept the deal.

Russia and Ukraine are going to have to compromise. Putin doesn't want Ukraine in NATO. Ukraine wants as much of it's territory back as possible and guarantees that Russia won't attack again. Both countries need this conflict to end...it's costing each of them far too many of their people. Trump is the only one that can cut a deal because he understands the places to apply pressure. He's lowered the price of oil which means Putin will struggle to finance his war machine. He's told Zelensky that the US will not continue to pour billions into a never ending conflict. Each leader needs to save face. Each leader needs to cut a deal.

 

[MisterBeale]

What is Putin offering?

To stop dismantling Ukraine, piece by piece?

 

[konradv]

Sounds like wishful thinking by the (formerly) anti-war left.

All they want is stuff, not our money or troops. It’s material that will be scrapped, surplussed or mothballed, anyway and replacements would be made by US workers.

 

[MisterBeale]

Prof. Gilbert Doctorow : Are Ukraine/Russia Peace Talks Fruitless?​

Streamed live on Apr 23, 2025

 

[MisterBeale]

It’s material that will be scrapped, surplussed or mothballed, anyway and replacements made by US workers.

Do tell.


What happens now that the U.S. is nearly out of all the scrapped, surplussed and mothballed material after years of fighting?

 

[Man With A Plan]

All they want is stuff, not our money or troops. It’s material that will be scrapped, surplussed or mothballed, anyway and replacements would be made by US workers.

Isn't "stuff" paid for by US taxpayer dollars? We've given Billions of dollars to Ukraine. That's going to stop if Zelensky doesn't cut a deal. Trump is making that quite clear.

 

[konradv]

To stop dismantling Ukraine, piece by piece?

How nice of him. Thank you for not kicking Ukraine in the balls anymore.

 

[konradv]

Isn't "stuff" paid for by US taxpayer dollars? We've given Billions of dollars to Ukraine. That's going to stop if Zelensky doesn't cut a deal. Trump is making that quite clear.

Trump is being stupid and cheap. Billions spent now will save trillions later, if Putin decides the Baltics or Poland are next.