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Yes, you are right. Jesus said that the destruction of Judea was only the beginning of sorrows.It also says in rev--no more mourning, outcry, or pain, even death will be no more--This certainly hasnt occurred yet. As well Rev shows Jesus leading Gods armies to the earth, if that occurred in 70 ad the Israelites would have won but The Romans won. Because that has not occurred yet. There were minor fullfillments back then, but the major fullfillments are to come.
Yes, that's a possibility, too, as Josephus used the names. Gog and Magog are not exclusive to Jewish and Christian history, but seemingly in the cultures where they exist, they appear to be adversarial.Check me out. I think Gog and Magog were the Scythians from Lydia. They did invade Syriaa-Palestine. See Scythiopolis.
Can you speak english? Yes Luke wrote it. Jesus said it.
Read those "wars and rumors of wars" passages for a change, eh. They're in reference to Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple.If the tribulation was over dear, there would not still be wars and rumors of war etc.,
You might as well go back to the drawing board before you make a greater fool of yourself than you already have.
No, he didn't.Jesus said that the destruction of Judea was only the beginning of sorrows.
Can you speak english? Yes Luke wrote it. Jesus said it.
Luke lived in antioch, never met Jesus.. which explains how he screwed up the geography. Meanwhile, most of the NT was written in Greek not Hebrew which fell out of popular usage during the Babylonian exile.
the bible also claims there are 10 commandments that never existed ...
No, he didn't.
So, where does Jesus mention the collapse of Judea in this passage?Liar.
The tribulation does not end until the return of the Christ.
24 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in diverse places.
8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
25 Behold, I have told you before.
26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28 Where the vultures gather, there lies the corpse.
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the door.
34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
This is a prelude to war, and the beginning of it. These are the beginning of sorrows.
The beginning of sorrows is not the collapse of Judea.
Learn to read.
Yea, you said something stupid.Wow. Was it something that I said that put you in such a foul mood? lol..You are coming undone.
Are you a Jesus eater? You better hope that he doesn't show up anytime soon.... Fool.
Yea, you said something stupid.
lol...
Where does the Bible say that the destruction of Judea is the beginning of sorrows?lol....Is it really any wonder why Jesus ended up saying, Here, "Eat this"
Where does the Bible say that the destruction of Judea is the beginning of sorrows?
Groovy.
Consider yourself a defeated fool.
In Matthew 24:8 it mentions beginning of sorrows; Nothing about destruction of Judea. Verse 15 mentions abomination in the holy place, then get out of "Judea" and flee to the mountains - other nations.Where does the Bible say that the destruction of Judea is the beginning of sorrows?
In Matthew 24:8 it mentions beginning of sorrows; Nothing about destruction of Judea.
YahShua predicted the fall of Yerusalem with not one stone left upon another.
In fact, Ezekiel was written around that time (roughly 593 to 571 BC). That prophet's reference to Gog and Magog are somewhat mysterious, but simply seems to liken the Prince (Gog) and his people (Magog) to enemies of God. Ezekiel also refers to himself as a son of man in the prophecy.
This passage, I think, is one of many archetypes in the Old Testament that the New Testament writers parallel. In Revelation 20, as in Ezekial 38, Gog and Magog have no specific identity except that they forsake God and appear to have some familial relation to the holy people. In Revelation, the Son of Man turns his face against this corrupt faction, and the judgment on this Satan is final.
And as we know from both biblical and extrabiblical literature, these accounts absolutely are historical. Ethnic Israel liberated herself from Babylon (not without some help from Persia, of course), and the new Israel (the Christians) liberated herself from ethnic Israel (not without some help from Rome, of course).
The bible writers were inspired by God through holy spirit.Luke lived in antioch, never met Jesus.. which explains how he screwed up the geography. Meanwhile, most of the NT was written in Greek not Hebrew which fell out of popular usage during the Babylonian exile.
