There Is No "Far Right" In This Country

[Moonglow]

Our government has a role to solve problems as they come up. Lots of problems have come up since the founders started this country. They didn't have it all figured out

When the states established their union, the created the federal government and gave it a very limited set of powers. You can find these powers listed in article I, section 8. As you can see, the states never delegated to congress the power to "solve problems as they come up". Congress may only enact legislation that comports with the legislative powers granted to it by the states.

That all went down the toilet during and after the civil war...

 

[Centinel]

That all went down the toilet during and after the civil war...

Really, how was the constitution amended?

 

[Moonglow]

That all went down the toilet during and after the civil war...

Really, how was the constitution amended?

It wasn't, except for the amendments concerning slavery....

 

[Centinel]

It wasn't, except for the amendments concerning slavery....

So it still does not contains an enumerated power to "solve problems as they come up".

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

If true, more evidence that America is a very liberal nation. Then again, maybe the conservatives are making another effort to be known as liberal. Either way....

Conservatives are liberals....the original liberals: classical liberals.

You modern Liberals purloined the name because it was held in high regard....and substituted 'Liberal' for the name you had, Socialists.


Simple enough to prove: classical liberals stood for individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

You, the American version of the 20th century Soviet oppression, stand for the collective, socialism, and unlimited government control

Please don't lie again.

Yes, liberals during the 1700's were for many changes to government, changes to the status of the common folk, to monarchs, to the noble class and so on, but one of the traits of liberalism is change and change they do. You must remember it is the conservatives that want to return to the 1700's, with an elite class and the rest. By the time conservatives accept the "all men are created equal" concept liberals will have moved on still in the pursuit of happiness for all Americans not just the elite.

So....I caught you lying, and this farrago is your attempt to....what...get off the floor?

Sadly....you've proven that you cannot control the lying.


Conservatives still stand for
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


While you stand for the doctrines that resulted in the slaughter of 100 million human beings.


Whittaker Chambers wrote in his book WITNESS that liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs. In short, Liberals are Communists and Communists are Liberals.

You know what I said about you calling others liars, Chica:

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You even lie about never lying, Chica! You don't have an honest bone in your body!

In your post #436 above [ Why Liberals Hate Free Speech | Page 44 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum ], you cited this quote from http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol29_No2_Rehnquist.pdf.
"[Liberal judicial activism] seems instead to be based upon the proposition that federal judges, perhaps judges as a whole, have a role of their own,
quite independent of popular will, to play in solving society’s problems."
But you didn't faithfully reproduce the quote which actually read:
"The brief writer’s version seems instead to be based upon the proposition that federal judges, perhaps judges as a whole, have a role of their own, quite independent of popular will, to play in solving society’s problems."

The underlined portions in both quotes above display the difference. In the original, in blue font, the author was speaking about the case brief's written by LAWYERS. But that didn't jive with your desired narrative so you edited, read that as LIED, it to shift the subject from LAWYERS to JUDGES, with your bracketed "Liberal judicial activism". That is changing truth to falsehood or in common English, LYING! You altered Rehnquist's entire meaning and intent to play the alter quote into your game by LYING. That is not only lying, but truly despicable dishonesty and conduct.

I understand why you didn't respond to my post #441 [ Why Liberals Hate Free Speech | Page 45 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum ] which disclosed this same dishonest conduct. I would have let it go until I read the post to which I'm responding [ Why Liberals Hate Free Speech | Page 45 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum post #448 ] proclaiming that you "never lie". You are an utterly disgustingly flawed person. Oh and you can expect to see this post showing up each and every time you claim that you "never lie", LIAR!

 

[PoliticalChic]

If true, more evidence that America is a very liberal nation. Then again, maybe the conservatives are making another effort to be known as liberal. Either way....

Conservatives are liberals....the original liberals: classical liberals.

You modern Liberals purloined the name because it was held in high regard....and substituted 'Liberal' for the name you had, Socialists.


Simple enough to prove: classical liberals stood for individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

You, the American version of the 20th century Soviet oppression, stand for the collective, socialism, and unlimited government control

Please don't lie again.

Yes, liberals during the 1700's were for many changes to government, changes to the status of the common folk, to monarchs, to the noble class and so on, but one of the traits of liberalism is change and change they do. You must remember it is the conservatives that want to return to the 1700's, with an elite class and the rest. By the time conservatives accept the "all men are created equal" concept liberals will have moved on still in the pursuit of happiness for all Americans not just the elite.

So....I caught you lying, and this farrago is your attempt to....what...get off the floor?

Sadly....you've proven that you cannot control the lying.


Conservatives still stand for
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


While you stand for the doctrines that resulted in the slaughter of 100 million human beings.


Whittaker Chambers wrote in his book WITNESS that liberals are/were incapable of ever effectively fighting Communism because they did not see anything in Communism that was antithetical to their own beliefs. In short, Liberals are Communists and Communists are Liberals.

You know what I said about you calling others liars, Chica:

<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>

You even lie about never lying, Chica! You don't have an honest bone in your body!

In your post #436 above [ Why Liberals Hate Free Speech | Page 44 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum ], you cited this quote from http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol29_No2_Rehnquist.pdf.
"[Liberal judicial activism] seems instead to be based upon the proposition that federal judges, perhaps judges as a whole, have a role of their own,
quite independent of popular will, to play in solving society’s problems."
But you didn't faithfully reproduce the quote which actually read:
"The brief writer’s version seems instead to be based upon the proposition that federal judges, perhaps judges as a whole, have a role of their own, quite independent of popular will, to play in solving society’s problems."

The underlined portions in both quotes above display the difference. In the original, in blue font, the author was speaking about the case brief's written by LAWYERS. But that didn't jive with your desired narrative so you edited, read that as LIED, it to shift the subject from LAWYERS to JUDGES, with your bracketed "Liberal judicial activism". That is changing truth to falsehood or in common English, LYING! You altered Rehnquist's entire meaning and intent to play the alter quote into your game by LYING. That is not only lying, but truly despicable dishonesty and conduct.

I understand why you didn't respond to my post #441 [ Why Liberals Hate Free Speech | Page 45 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum ] which disclosed this same dishonest conduct. I would have let it go until I read the post to which I'm responding [ Why Liberals Hate Free Speech | Page 45 | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum post #448 ] proclaiming that you "never lie". You are an utterly disgustingly flawed person. Oh and you can expect to see this post showing up each and every time you claim that you "never lie", LIAR!

Both
"[Liberal judicial activism] and "The brief writer’s version mean the same thing you imbecile.

My bracketing simply obviated having to read the entire speech.

QED....I never lie.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You still can't tell your right from your left.......time for another lesson.

Says the far left drone that voted for fascism twice, once in 2008 and again in 2012..

You remind me of this.

Yes once the far left drones are comforted with reality, tis is how they act!

So let me review...

Are you trying to tell me that there is no far right in this country?

Nah.....just wondering why you are trying to ignore the data I've provided...

This:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?




2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?



4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..



6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."



7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.





8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....





9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?







10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.



Clear proof of the radical positions of the Far Left.....
...and also proof that you cannot find comparable positions by what would be a Far Right.


Please....don't stop revealing your irritation.

I'm glad you shared that again for the 15th time.

Now, now....shed that moue.

We both know you've wanted to be able to find some way to answer that list of examples that I produced.....
...just admit you couldn't.


A smarter person would simply consider them as facts....and alter their worldview to incorporate them.
But....I recognize that for a certain type of person, indoctrination is indelible.


Now, you take care, y'hear.

List all the positions you hold that most Americans hold.

IOW, prove that YOU are not on the far right.

You have not listed who is far right, so you see the far left wants to claim the far right exists yet they can not cite one person in Congress..

This is what far eft drones do when confronted with reality!

You are on far right.

Prove me wrong by listing all the liberal positions you agree with.

 

[Kosh]

Says the far left drone that voted for fascism twice, once in 2008 and again in 2012..

You remind me of this.

Yes once the far left drones are comforted with reality, tis is how they act!

Nah.....just wondering why you are trying to ignore the data I've provided...

This:
Radical positions as opposed to traditional ones identify "Far" Left or Right....


1. ... traditional marriage, that involves one man and one woman, and compare that with homosexual marriage.. Which one is radical?




2. Another of those positions under regular discussion is 'prayer' in the public arena....Congress opens each year with prayer. Opposing prayer is radical....religiosity is traditional in America.


3. Is 'free speech' embraced by one side, and opposed by the other? You betcha! Obama's Supreme Court nominee says it would be be proper to suppress speech because it is offensive to society or to the government.
Starting to see a pattern?



4. While we were founded on the biblical idea that all men are created equal,
LBJ advanced a two-class nation based on skin color.
....this radical view was advanced: affirmative action. Hence, Democrats....the Far Left.


5. Here's one more radical position by the Left....fighting to elect a sexual pervert and admitted liar and disbarred lawyer to the White House: Bill Clinton
Relative to American traditions, values, and history ...championing a man of such low character is a radical position.
Hence, Far Left..



6. Franklin Roosevelt threw the United States Constitution under the bus, and used the public fisc for all sorts of endeavors not authorized in Article 1, section 8.
A radical and Progressive position.
He was the ultimate "Far Leftist."



7. Under Franklin Roosevlet the federal government was transformed from one of limited & enumerated powers only to the Frankensteinian monster it is today. ....the regulatory welfare state where the federal government regulates business and commerce, natural resources, human resources, ...
Under the Progressives, the federal government was no longer limited by the enumerated powers delegated in the Constitution; ...
Radical to the utmost....hence Far Left.





8. Under Roosevelt's NRA, most manufacturing industries were suddenly forced into government-mandated cartels. Codes that regulated prices and terms of sale briefly transformed much of the American economy into a fascist-style arrangement,
"... into a fascist-style arrangement,..."
"A New Jersey tailor named Jacob Maged was arrested and sent to jail for the “crime” of pressing a suit of clothes for 35 cents rather than the NRA-inspired “Tailor’s Code” of 40 cents."
No surprise here: FDR's New Deal was a copy of Mussolini's economic program.
Could anything short of setting up concentration camps for our citizens, be more radical???
Oh...wait....





9. How about The Far Left's Gender-Agenda., versus the Right's stand for tradition and reality: "Republicans Battle to Roll Back Washington's New Transgender Bathroom Rules"
Really....could there be a more pertinent example of the radical, insane Far Left's corruption of tradition and history???
Could there?







10. The corruption of the press by the Far Left: the JournoList Scandal: hundreds of Leftist journalists plotted to minimize negative publicity surrounding Obama’s radical ties. They plotted to smear the other side with lies. Peter Zenger....spinnning in his grave.



Clear proof of the radical positions of the Far Left.....
...and also proof that you cannot find comparable positions by what would be a Far Right.


Please....don't stop revealing your irritation.

I'm glad you shared that again for the 15th time.

Now, now....shed that moue.

We both know you've wanted to be able to find some way to answer that list of examples that I produced.....
...just admit you couldn't.


A smarter person would simply consider them as facts....and alter their worldview to incorporate them.
But....I recognize that for a certain type of person, indoctrination is indelible.


Now, you take care, y'hear.

List all the positions you hold that most Americans hold.

IOW, prove that YOU are not on the far right.

You have not listed who is far right, so you see the far left wants to claim the far right exists yet they can not cite one person in Congress..

This is what far eft drones do when confronted with reality!

You are on far right.

Prove me wrong by listing all the liberal positions you agree with.

See once again the far left will post known bunk and expect others to prove them wrong!

See how they can not anyone that is "far right", yet they believe it exists!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Growing up on an Indian reservation is about as socialist as it gets... Words can not express has much socialism sucks.
The federal government made living life day to day a live'n hell...

If you are a Native American, then socialism is a deep part of your culture.

I don't like the word "Native American" it's a politically correct and neutered term.
Socialism is a delusional pipe dream that has zero basis in reality...

What's wrong with giving all children a basic education regardless of their ability to pay?

 

[NYcarbineer]

You remind me of this.

Yes once the far left drones are comforted with reality, tis is how they act!

I'm glad you shared that again for the 15th time.

Now, now....shed that moue.

We both know you've wanted to be able to find some way to answer that list of examples that I produced.....
...just admit you couldn't.


A smarter person would simply consider them as facts....and alter their worldview to incorporate them.
But....I recognize that for a certain type of person, indoctrination is indelible.


Now, you take care, y'hear.

List all the positions you hold that most Americans hold.

IOW, prove that YOU are not on the far right.

You have not listed who is far right, so you see the far left wants to claim the far right exists yet they can not cite one person in Congress..

This is what far eft drones do when confronted with reality!

You are on far right.

Prove me wrong by listing all the liberal positions you agree with.

See once again the far left will post known bunk and expect others to prove them wrong!

See how they can not anyone that is "far right", yet they believe it exists!

So you don't agree with liberals on ANYTHING. By your own admission.

That puts you on the far right.

 

[Kosh]

Yes once the far left drones are comforted with reality, tis is how they act!

Now, now....shed that moue.

We both know you've wanted to be able to find some way to answer that list of examples that I produced.....
...just admit you couldn't.


A smarter person would simply consider them as facts....and alter their worldview to incorporate them.
But....I recognize that for a certain type of person, indoctrination is indelible.


Now, you take care, y'hear.

List all the positions you hold that most Americans hold.

IOW, prove that YOU are not on the far right.

You have not listed who is far right, so you see the far left wants to claim the far right exists yet they can not cite one person in Congress..

This is what far eft drones do when confronted with reality!

You are on far right.

Prove me wrong by listing all the liberal positions you agree with.

See once again the far left will post known bunk and expect others to prove them wrong!

See how they can not anyone that is "far right", yet they believe it exists!

So you don't agree with liberals on ANYTHING. By your own admission.

That puts you on the far right.

Notice how the far left can not support any of their religious dogma..

 

[Kosh]

Growing up on an Indian reservation is about as socialist as it gets... Words can not express has much socialism sucks.
The federal government made living life day to day a live'n hell...

If you are a Native American, then socialism is a deep part of your culture.

I don't like the word "Native American" it's a politically correct and neutered term.
Socialism is a delusional pipe dream that has zero basis in reality...

What's wrong with giving all children a basic education regardless of their ability to pay?

Notice how the far left drones will just spout their religious dogma that has nothing to do with anything!

 

[Rustic]

Growing up on an Indian reservation is about as socialist as it gets... Words can not express has much socialism sucks.
The federal government made living life day to day a live'n hell...

If you are a Native American, then socialism is a deep part of your culture.

I don't like the word "Native American" it's a politically correct and neutered term.
Socialism is a delusional pipe dream that has zero basis in reality...

What's wrong with giving all children a basic education regardless of their ability to pay?

Are you serious??
Who pays?? How is it paid for??

 

[regent]

Our government has a role to solve problems as they come up. Lots of problems have come up since the founders started this country. They didn't have it all figured out

When the states established their union, the created the federal government and gave it a very limited set of powers. You can find these powers listed in article I, section 8. As you can see, the states never delegated to congress the power to "solve problems as they come up". Congress may only enact legislation that comports with the legislative powers granted to it by the states.

And one of the first things the government did was establish the Bank. Was the bank an implied power?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Growing up on an Indian reservation is about as socialist as it gets... Words can not express has much socialism sucks.
The federal government made living life day to day a live'n hell...

If you are a Native American, then socialism is a deep part of your culture.

I don't like the word "Native American" it's a politically correct and neutered term.
Socialism is a delusional pipe dream that has zero basis in reality...

What's wrong with giving all children a basic education regardless of their ability to pay?

Are you serious??
Who pays?? How is it paid for??

Ok, so you want education to be available only to those who can pay for it, because you want to keep the poor poor.

That puts you squarely on the Far Right.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Growing up on an Indian reservation is about as socialist as it gets... Words can not express has much socialism sucks.
The federal government made living life day to day a live'n hell...

If you are a Native American, then socialism is a deep part of your culture.

I don't like the word "Native American" it's a politically correct and neutered term.
Socialism is a delusional pipe dream that has zero basis in reality...

What's wrong with giving all children a basic education regardless of their ability to pay?

Notice how the far left drones will just spout their religious dogma that has nothing to do with anything!

I'm not gay. How many times do I have to tell you that? Quit messaging me.

 

[Rustic]

Growing up on an Indian reservation is about as socialist as it gets... Words can not express has much socialism sucks.
The federal government made living life day to day a live'n hell...

If you are a Native American, then socialism is a deep part of your culture.

I don't like the word "Native American" it's a politically correct and neutered term.
Socialism is a delusional pipe dream that has zero basis in reality...

What's wrong with giving all children a basic education regardless of their ability to pay?

Are you serious??
Who pays?? How is it paid for??

Ok, so you want education to be available only to those who can pay for it, because you want to keep the poor poor.

That puts you squarely on the Far Right.

How much of living "poor" do you know about??

 

[Centinel]

And one of the first things the government did was establish the Bank. Was the bank an implied power?

The states never granted their federal government the power to establish a central bank. Or can you cite the language in article I, section 8 that does so?

 

[NYcarbineer]

If you are a Native American, then socialism is a deep part of your culture.

I don't like the word "Native American" it's a politically correct and neutered term.
Socialism is a delusional pipe dream that has zero basis in reality...

What's wrong with giving all children a basic education regardless of their ability to pay?

Are you serious??
Who pays?? How is it paid for??

Ok, so you want education to be available only to those who can pay for it, because you want to keep the poor poor.

That puts you squarely on the Far Right.

How much of living "poor" do you know about??

Why are you dodging the issue.

 

[NYcarbineer]

If you are a Native American, then socialism is a deep part of your culture.

I don't like the word "Native American" it's a politically correct and neutered term.
Socialism is a delusional pipe dream that has zero basis in reality...

What's wrong with giving all children a basic education regardless of their ability to pay?

Are you serious??
Who pays?? How is it paid for??

Ok, so you want education to be available only to those who can pay for it, because you want to keep the poor poor.

That puts you squarely on the Far Right.

How much of living "poor" do you know about??

You oppose education for anyone who can't pay for it. You're living in 17th century.