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It’s psychology and sociology what do you need to prove? Is it a requirement for you to prove you love your wife or kids? What needs to be proven. People feel how they feel. You can argue with them and tell them they don’t feel that way or they are crazy... or you can listen to them and try to understand and relate with them.
It's very odd to advocate that feelings define reality. If I "feel" the presence of Jesus, do non-believers have to do so without the desire to believe or in the absence of proof?

Meanwhile, you're recklessly throwing out false assumptions left and right.

1. "Argue with them".. well, if they say something that I disagree with, I'm allowed to disagree. Do you label your critiques of things you disagree with as "arguing" with people? No, I doubt you do.
2. Nobody said they don't feel that way. They obviously do. I simply don't believe their ideology, and I'm allowed to do that, unless you're the totalitarian type.
3. I never said they're crazy, and not many people do in society. So, your attempt to stamp me with such a claim is rather passive-aggressively malicious.
4. I Understand their argument, and empathize with having gender dysphoria. It's not as if because I don't agree with the ideology means I'm nasty or refuse to treat them as humans. I'm not the one attacking, they are. They attack those who disagree as "Hateful". Perhaps if we want respect, we should act with respect. Putting people on the defense and maligning them, and then wondering why they might have people who come back at them is rather short sighted. I don't support retaliating against these nasty woke trans-activists, but let's not act like they're not going to tick people off.

It must be very scary to have such a foundational structure in one's psyche skewed. That's probably why suicide rates are so high, because of the dissonance and dissymmetry. It's definitely not bullying and such, as other victim classes who claim oppression don't have massively high suicide rates. There's clearly something intrinsic going on with a horrible feedback loop of confusion and depression. We shouldn't be glorifying and encouraging it, especially amongst our youth.
Yes it’s evolution. We evolved on our view of women, then blacks, and now is our time to evolve in our understanding and acceptance of LGBTQ
You and I can prove Thelma is Black. By scientific observation and melanin measure.
You and I can prove Thelma is a Woman. By chromosome measure, and many other telltale signs.
You nor I can prove Thelma has decided to identify as a man based on feelings. Anyone can feel anything. Meanwhile, there's no frame of reference. I have no idea what it feels like to be a woman, because I'm not one. And you have no idea what it feels like to be an opposing sex. We can all feel characteristics that are stereotypically assigned with the opposite sex, nobody is stopping it whatsoever. They'd simply just be a feminine man or masculine woman. That's it.

Massive difference. Your attempt at a laughable narrative and pseudohistory debunked. *Yawn*
Damn that was long. I prefer debating specific points so when you lay out dozens of different ones it makes it hard to drill in. Mind keeping your posts shorter and to few specific points from now on so we don’t have to write covers back and forth?

when it comes down to it these are just people wanting to live life in the way that feels the most natural to them. To come out and say you don’t believe in their ideology is pretty lame. It’s not a subscription to a set of beliefs or the the joining of a religion it is people expressing who they are. There’s nothing to prove. We do live in a free country do we not?
 

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Biologically yes
Sexuality is more complicated
Another goalpost move. Yes, sexuality is different, straights and homosexuality.

Care to share a third gender with us?
Reality

Ones biology does not always match your sexuality
Trying to limit sexuality to just two distinct genders is not the way humans work
Thread isn’t about sexuality, we are all well aware of the many types of sexual deviancy that exist.

Stay on topic.

Is there a third gender or not?
Ones sex is based on biology. One can be male, female or a combo of both. Ones Gender is based on social constructs. Traditionally there have been two genders male and female. In recent years people have been expressing themselves with more openness and honesty so more variations are coming out. It is not a threat don’t freak out. It doesn’t need to be a bad thing, it’s just evolution. The most common non traditional gender is non-binary
In the real world, there are two sexes.

What we are witnessing is Left Wing gender ideology.
Yes I know there are two sexes. This thread is about gender. Try and keep up
Gender is a play on words, invented by sick Lefties. In the real adult world, there's male and female, nature gave you an appropriate skelton to match one or the other, and apart from the odd abnormality, a penis or a vagina to match. It's all physical, but is you're confused, that's where the mental problem arises.

So quit this childish shit and grow the fuck up.
 

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Biologically yes
Sexuality is more complicated
Another goalpost move. Yes, sexuality is different, straights and homosexuality.

Care to share a third gender with us?
Reality

Ones biology does not always match your sexuality
Trying to limit sexuality to just two distinct genders is not the way humans work
Thread isn’t about sexuality, we are all well aware of the many types of sexual deviancy that exist.

Stay on topic.

Is there a third gender or not?
Ones sex is based on biology. One can be male, female or a combo of both. Ones Gender is based on social constructs. Traditionally there have been two genders male and female. In recent years people have been expressing themselves with more openness and honesty so more variations are coming out. It is not a threat don’t freak out. It doesn’t need to be a bad thing, it’s just evolution. The most common non traditional gender is non-binary
In the real world, there are two sexes.

What we are witnessing is Left Wing gender ideology.
Yes I know there are two sexes. This thread is about gender. Try and keep up
Gender is a play on words, invented by sick Lefties. In the real adult world, there's male and female, nature gave you an appropriate skelton to match one or the other, and apart from the odd abnormality, a penis or a vagina to match. It's all physical, but is you're confused, that's where the mental problem arises.

So quit this childish shit and grow the fuck up.
Yes smart guy there is a biological sex that we are born with then there is a cultural way we assign for groups to act... these characteristics define our gender roles. What’s natural about girls wearing dresses, makeup and high heels? Nothing. That’s cultural. So if a person relates with characteristics of the opposite sex Or neither then so what?! Why do you care. Think you’re the one who needs to grow up.
 

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Biologically yes
Sexuality is more complicated
Another goalpost move. Yes, sexuality is different, straights and homosexuality.

Care to share a third gender with us?
Reality

Ones biology does not always match your sexuality
Trying to limit sexuality to just two distinct genders is not the way humans work
Thread isn’t about sexuality, we are all well aware of the many types of sexual deviancy that exist.

Stay on topic.

Is there a third gender or not?
Ones sex is based on biology. One can be male, female or a combo of both. Ones Gender is based on social constructs. Traditionally there have been two genders male and female. In recent years people have been expressing themselves with more openness and honesty so more variations are coming out. It is not a threat don’t freak out. It doesn’t need to be a bad thing, it’s just evolution. The most common non traditional gender is non-binary
In the real world, there are two sexes.

What we are witnessing is Left Wing gender ideology.
Yes I know there are two sexes. This thread is about gender. Try and keep up
Gender is a play on words, invented by sick Lefties. In the real adult world, there's male and female, nature gave you an appropriate skelton to match one or the other, and apart from the odd abnormality, a penis or a vagina to match. It's all physical, but is you're confused, that's where the mental problem arises.

So quit this childish shit and grow the fuck up.
Yes smart guy there is a biological sex that we are born with then there is a cultural way we assign for groups to act... these characteristics define our gender roles. What’s natural about girls wearing dresses, makeup and high heels? Nothing. That’s cultural. So if a person relates with characteristics of the opposite sex Or neither then so what?! Why do you care. Think you’re the one who needs to grow up.
A kid dressed up as Batman is not Batman.

If a guy does not identify as a guy, but a woman, then why not just identify as a woman? Why do they want to physically match the physical properties of a woman that society dictates? I thought you nutters were against social constructs of the sexes. You're fucking mentally ill.
 
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Yes I know there are two sexes. This thread is about gender. Try and keep up
And genders are based directly on the two sexes.

Most legal language is written for the two genders, and assumes the genders correspond to their appropriate biological sex.
Can you post which definition of gender you are using that says it is only based on two sexes?
The common sense definition of gender, that there are two, men and women.

What definition are you using?
I’m using the actual definition not you “common sense” definition whatever that means.

Gender: either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.
So?

Is there a third gender or not?
Non binary is another
Wow, a human that isn’t a man or a woman? Can we get a run down on how that works?
 

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Biologically yes
Sexuality is more complicated
Another goalpost move. Yes, sexuality is different, straights and homosexuality.

Care to share a third gender with us?
Reality

Ones biology does not always match your sexuality
Trying to limit sexuality to just two distinct genders is not the way humans work
Thread isn’t about sexuality, we are all well aware of the many types of sexual deviancy that exist.

Stay on topic.

Is there a third gender or not?
Ones sex is based on biology. One can be male, female or a combo of both. Ones Gender is based on social constructs. Traditionally there have been two genders male and female. In recent years people have been expressing themselves with more openness and honesty so more variations are coming out. It is not a threat don’t freak out. It doesn’t need to be a bad thing, it’s just evolution. The most common non traditional gender is non-binary
In the real world, there are two sexes.

What we are witnessing is Left Wing gender ideology.
Yes I know there are two sexes. This thread is about gender. Try and keep up
Gender is a play on words, invented by sick Lefties. In the real adult world, there's male and female, nature gave you an appropriate skelton to match one or the other, and apart from the odd abnormality, a penis or a vagina to match. It's all physical, but is you're confused, that's where the mental problem arises.

So quit this childish shit and grow the fuck up.
Yes smart guy there is a biological sex that we are born with then there is a cultural way we assign for groups to act... these characteristics define our gender roles. What’s natural about girls wearing dresses, makeup and high heels? Nothing. That’s cultural. So if a person relates with characteristics of the opposite sex Or neither then so what?! Why do you care. Think you’re the one who needs to grow up.
A kid dressed up as Batman is not Batman.

If a guy does not identify as a guy, but a woman, then why not just identify as a woman? Why do they want to physically match the physical properties of a woman that society dictates? I thought you nutters were against social constructs of the sexes. You're fucking mentally ill.
Ask them, that’s what they want to do. Why do you care?
 

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Yes I know there are two sexes. This thread is about gender. Try and keep up
And genders are based directly on the two sexes.

Most legal language is written for the two genders, and assumes the genders correspond to their appropriate biological sex.
Can you post which definition of gender you are using that says it is only based on two sexes?
The common sense definition of gender, that there are two, men and women.

What definition are you using?
I’m using the actual definition not you “common sense” definition whatever that means.

Gender: either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.
So?

Is there a third gender or not?
Non binary is another
Wow, a human that isn’t a man or a woman? Can we get a run down on how that works?
You’d have to ask individuals how they feel. There are plenty of articles and videos and documentaries about it online. Go enlighten yourself
 

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Yes I know there are two sexes. This thread is about gender. Try and keep up
And genders are based directly on the two sexes.

Most legal language is written for the two genders, and assumes the genders correspond to their appropriate biological sex.
Can you post which definition of gender you are using that says it is only based on two sexes?
The common sense definition of gender, that there are two, men and women.

What definition are you using?
I’m using the actual definition not you “common sense” definition whatever that means.

Gender: either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.
So?

Is there a third gender or not?
two genders and many variations within a gender
why do you care?
There are no significant “variation”. One is either a male or female, man or woman.
That is where you are wrong

Within a sex, there are many variations
So you say, yet you can’t name one. If all these “variations” are “within” an existing gender, then why all the outrage about stating there are two genders?
Lets see....
Men who prefer men, women who prefer women, men who identify as women, bisexuals....

You know....those groups you hate
The reason you made this thread
 

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Biologically yes
Sexuality is more complicated
Another goalpost move. Yes, sexuality is different, straights and homosexuality.

Care to share a third gender with us?
Reality

Ones biology does not always match your sexuality
Trying to limit sexuality to just two distinct genders is not the way humans work
Thread isn’t about sexuality, we are all well aware of the many types of sexual deviancy that exist.

Stay on topic.

Is there a third gender or not?
Ones sex is based on biology. One can be male, female or a combo of both. Ones Gender is based on social constructs. Traditionally there have been two genders male and female. In recent years people have been expressing themselves with more openness and honesty so more variations are coming out. It is not a threat don’t freak out. It doesn’t need to be a bad thing, it’s just evolution. The most common non traditional gender is non-binary
In the real world, there are two sexes.

What we are witnessing is Left Wing gender ideology.
Yes I know there are two sexes. This thread is about gender. Try and keep up
Gender is a play on words, invented by sick Lefties. In the real adult world, there's male and female, nature gave you an appropriate skelton to match one or the other, and apart from the odd abnormality, a penis or a vagina to match. It's all physical, but is you're confused, that's where the mental problem arises.

So quit this childish shit and grow the fuck up.
Yes smart guy there is a biological sex that we are born with then there is a cultural way we assign for groups to act... these characteristics define our gender roles. What’s natural about girls wearing dresses, makeup and high heels? Nothing. That’s cultural. So if a person relates with characteristics of the opposite sex Or neither then so what?! Why do you care. Think you’re the one who needs to grow up.
A kid dressed up as Batman is not Batman.

If a guy does not identify as a guy, but a woman, then why not just identify as a woman? Why do they want to physically match the physical properties of a woman that society dictates? I thought you nutters were against social constructs of the sexes. You're fucking mentally ill.
Ask them, that’s what they want to do. Why do you care?
More to the point, why do they care that they must fit in with the social construct and chop bits off or stick bits on?

You remind me of Flag Hippo


Pointless.
 

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Biologically yes
Sexuality is more complicated
Another goalpost move. Yes, sexuality is different, straights and homosexuality.

Care to share a third gender with us?
Reality

Ones biology does not always match your sexuality
Trying to limit sexuality to just two distinct genders is not the way humans work
Thread isn’t about sexuality, we are all well aware of the many types of sexual deviancy that exist.

Stay on topic.

Is there a third gender or not?
Ones sex is based on biology. One can be male, female or a combo of both. Ones Gender is based on social constructs. Traditionally there have been two genders male and female. In recent years people have been expressing themselves with more openness and honesty so more variations are coming out. It is not a threat don’t freak out. It doesn’t need to be a bad thing, it’s just evolution. The most common non traditional gender is non-binary
In the real world, there are two sexes.

What we are witnessing is Left Wing gender ideology.
Yes I know there are two sexes. This thread is about gender. Try and keep up
Gender is a play on words, invented by sick Lefties. In the real adult world, there's male and female, nature gave you an appropriate skelton to match one or the other, and apart from the odd abnormality, a penis or a vagina to match. It's all physical, but is you're confused, that's where the mental problem arises.

So quit this childish shit and grow the fuck up.
Yes smart guy there is a biological sex that we are born with then there is a cultural way we assign for groups to act... these characteristics define our gender roles. What’s natural about girls wearing dresses, makeup and high heels? Nothing. That’s cultural. So if a person relates with characteristics of the opposite sex Or neither then so what?! Why do you care. Think you’re the one who needs to grow up.
A kid dressed up as Batman is not Batman.

If a guy does not identify as a guy, but a woman, then why not just identify as a woman? Why do they want to physically match the physical properties of a woman that society dictates? I thought you nutters were against social constructs of the sexes. You're fucking mentally ill.
Ask them, that’s what they want to do. Why do you care?
More to the point, why do they care that they must fit in with the social construct and chop bits off or stick bits on?

You remind me of Flag Hippo


Pointless.
Why do they care that they want to fit in and feel accepted in their own society?! Gee I wonder. Was that a serious question?
 
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Why are Conservatives so obsessed with people they see as “different” ?
It starts with men who want to pee in the women’s bathroom
Who cares who pees in what bathroom?

Who are you, the bathroom police?

I care if some freak with mental issues wants to use the same bathroom as my female family members.


You should too.
Is this a problem that you frequently have?
 

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The best part of this whole thing is 99 percent of americans don't really care. That is beautiful. They have to wake up every day me zombies and go to work and we should not expect them to care.
 
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Yes I know there are two sexes. This thread is about gender. Try and keep up
And genders are based directly on the two sexes.

Most legal language is written for the two genders, and assumes the genders correspond to their appropriate biological sex.
Can you post which definition of gender you are using that says it is only based on two sexes?
The common sense definition of gender, that there are two, men and women.

What definition are you using?
I’m using the actual definition not you “common sense” definition whatever that means.

Gender: either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones. The term is also used more broadly to denote a range of identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female.
So?

Is there a third gender or not?
two genders and many variations within a gender
why do you care?
There are no significant “variation”. One is either a male or female, man or woman.
That is where you are wrong

Within a sex, there are many variations
So you say, yet you can’t name one. If all these “variations” are “within” an existing gender, then why all the outrage about stating there are two genders?
Lets see....
Men who prefer men, women who prefer women, men who identify as women, bisexuals....

You know....those groups you hate
The reason you made this thread
You keep running in circles. Men who prefer men are still male, still a male. Being bisexual doesn’t change your gender. You’re talking nonsense.
 

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If you do not like sharing a restroom with a transsexual or even a “negro” you can wait till they leave
Do you realize just how disgustingly racist you are being?

You just implied that being black is exactly comparable to being a degenerate, morally- and mentally-defective perverted freak who wants to violate the privacy, modesty, and safety of women and girls.

Of of course, yours is the side that is fond of falsely accusing your opposition of being racist,.
 

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I know you don’t want transsexuals to exist.
But where do you want them to pee?

You want a guy in a dress in a urinal next to your young son?
Yours is the side that wants to give mentally-defective, morally-degenerate, and very likely dangerous sexual perverts access to children.

Sane people prefer that such degenerates be kept in prisons or in mental hospitals, and in any event, well away from children.
 

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