Seawytch
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Right, 2012 was before 2016 when Russia interfered in our elections to help Trump. WELL DONE.
There Are 42 Russian Assets In The US. The Filthy 42 Are Now Russian TV Stars
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Right, 2012 was before 2016 when Russia interfered in our elections to help Trump. WELL DONE.
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Don't be stupier than you have to be.
Seawytch
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What are you claiming there is no proof of?
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
"So, on Jan. 6, 2017, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper released an evidence-free report that he said was compiled by “hand-picked” analysts from the CIA, FBI and NSA, offering an “assessment” that Russia and President Putin were behind the release of the Democratic emails in a plot to help Trump win the presidency.
Despite the extraordinary gravity of the charge, even New York Times correspondent Scott Shane noted that proof was lacking. He wrote at the time: “What is missing from the [the Jan. 6] public report is what many Americans most eagerly anticipated: hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims that the Russian government engineered the election attack. … Instead, the message from the agencies essentially amounts to ‘trust us.’”
The Tangled Threads of Russia-gate
Russia hacked the DNC and gave the information to wikileaks. To deny that fact at this point is ludicrous. And now, thanks to 42 Republicans, those responsible for the attack will be handsomely rewarded.
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What does that have to do with Republicans voting to give relief to Russian Oligarchs rather than Americans?
It's just a distraction, a mind trick on the population.
Global Oligarchs have no national allegiance. None.
The don't care about anything, any nation or any one, kind of like Trump.
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Right, 2012 was before 2016 when Russia interfered in our elections to help Trump. WELL DONE.
Notsomuch to help Trump, but to sow discord. Shit, that discord is a sapling now.
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What are you claiming there is no proof of?
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
"So, on Jan. 6, 2017, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper released an evidence-free report that he said was compiled by “hand-picked” analysts from the CIA, FBI and NSA, offering an “assessment” that Russia and President Putin were behind the release of the Democratic emails in a plot to help Trump win the presidency.
Despite the extraordinary gravity of the charge, even New York Times correspondent Scott Shane noted that proof was lacking. He wrote at the time: “What is missing from the [the Jan. 6] public report is what many Americans most eagerly anticipated: hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims that the Russian government engineered the election attack. … Instead, the message from the agencies essentially amounts to ‘trust us.’”
The Tangled Threads of Russia-gate
Russia hacked the DNC and gave the information to wikileaks. To deny that fact at this point is ludicrous. And now, thanks to 42 Republicans, those responsible for the attack will be handsomely rewarded.
Alternative facts. We'll never know who hacked the DNC because they never let the FBI look at their computer to find out who hacked them. Apparently they didn't care too much. Then you have 3 Muslim foreign agents all up in the DNC servers as well.That's a ridiculous assertion to make.
Wikileaks got their info from Seth Rich, though. The DNC figured out who the whistleblower was and killed him.
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Yea...actually it was at least co-opted by them
Seawytch
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What are you claiming there is no proof of?
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
"So, on Jan. 6, 2017, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper released an evidence-free report that he said was compiled by “hand-picked” analysts from the CIA, FBI and NSA, offering an “assessment” that Russia and President Putin were behind the release of the Democratic emails in a plot to help Trump win the presidency.
Despite the extraordinary gravity of the charge, even New York Times correspondent Scott Shane noted that proof was lacking. He wrote at the time: “What is missing from the [the Jan. 6] public report is what many Americans most eagerly anticipated: hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims that the Russian government engineered the election attack. … Instead, the message from the agencies essentially amounts to ‘trust us.’”
The Tangled Threads of Russia-gate
Russia hacked the DNC and gave the information to wikileaks. To deny that fact at this point is ludicrous. And now, thanks to 42 Republicans, those responsible for the attack will be handsomely rewarded.
That's a ridiculous assertion to make.
Wikileaks got their info from Seth Rich, though. The DNC figured out who the whistleblower was and killed him.
We do know. The FBI has no doubt who hacked the DNC servers. Nothing you just said is true, nothing.
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What are you claiming there is no proof of?
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
"So, on Jan. 6, 2017, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper released an evidence-free report that he said was compiled by “hand-picked” analysts from the CIA, FBI and NSA, offering an “assessment” that Russia and President Putin were behind the release of the Democratic emails in a plot to help Trump win the presidency.
Despite the extraordinary gravity of the charge, even New York Times correspondent Scott Shane noted that proof was lacking. He wrote at the time: “What is missing from the [the Jan. 6] public report is what many Americans most eagerly anticipated: hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims that the Russian government engineered the election attack. … Instead, the message from the agencies essentially amounts to ‘trust us.’”
The Tangled Threads of Russia-gate
Russia hacked the DNC and gave the information to Wikileaks. To deny that fact at this point is ludicrous. And now, thanks to 42 Republicans, those responsible for the attack will be handsomely rewarded.
My god, how can you be so badly informed? Is it because you only watch and read CFR, MSM, misinformation? You do know that Crowdstrike would not allow the FBI to review the "hack," which was a PHYSICAL breach, right? That was too much data, too quickly stolen to be taken over the net. How can you be so badly misinformed?
‘Too Big to Fail’: Russia-gate One Year After VIPS Showed a Leak, Not a Hack
'Too Big to Fail': Russia-gate One Year After VIPS Showed a Leak, Not a Hack
. . . At the time I reported on the findings of VIPS and associated forensic scientists, that the most fundamental evidence that the events of summer 2016 constituted a leak, not a hack, was the transfer rate—the speed at which data was copied. The speed proven then was an average of 22.7 megabytes per second. That speed matches what is standard when someone with physical access uses an external storage device to copy data from a computer or server and is much faster than a remote hack, reliant on communications topology available at the time, could achieve. . .
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". . . . To my knowledge, no one with an understanding of the science involved, including various former skeptics, any longer questions the validity of the specific finding based on the observed transfer rate. That remains the bedrock evidence of the case VIPS and others advance without qualification. “No one—including the FBI, the CIA, and the NSA—has come out against this finding,” Binney said Monday. “Anyone who says the speed we demonstrated can be achieved remotely, our position is ‘Let’s see it. We’ll help any way we can.’ There hasn’t been anyone yet.. . . . ”
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. . .But they discovered something else of significance, too. At some point G–2.0 had merged two sets of data, one dated July 5, 2016, which had been known, and another dated the following September 1, which had not been known. In essence, Campbell reverse-engineered G–2.0’s work: He took the sets of data G–2.0 presented as two and combined them back into one. “G–2.0 used an algorithm to make a downloaded file look like two files,” Binney explained. “Those two shuffled back together like a deck of cards.”
G–2.0 then took another step. Running another algorithm, he changed all the dates on all the files. With yet another algorithm, he changed the hours stamped on each file. These are called “range changes” among the professionals. The conclusion was then obvious: G–2.0 is a fabrication and a fabricator. Forensicator had already proven that the G–2.0 entity had inserted Russian “fingerprints” into the document known as the “Trump Opposition Report,” which G-2.0 had published on June 15, 2016. It is clear that no firm conclusions can be drawn at this point as to when or where G–2.0 did what he did.
“Now you need to prove everything you might think about him,” Binney told me. “We have no way of knowing anything about him or what he has done, apart from manipulating the files. We detected activity in the Eastern time zone. Now we have to ask again, ‘Which time zone?’ The West Coast copy operation [discovered by Forensicator] has to be proven. All the data has been manipulated. It’s a fabrication. . . ”
But you don't care about the truth, do you? You just want to hate the clown we have occupying the oval office, not the real threat to the Republic, right?
Seawytch
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Right, 2012 was before 2016 when Russia interfered in our elections to help Trump. WELL DONE.
Notsomuch to help Trump, but to sow discord. Shit, that discord is a sapling now.
By helping Donnie Small Hands and hurting Hillary Clinton.
Senate Intel panel: Russia tried to help Trump, hurt Clinton, in 2016 election
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Actually, they are not 100%.
What are you claiming there is no proof of?
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
"So, on Jan. 6, 2017, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper released an evidence-free report that he said was compiled by “hand-picked” analysts from the CIA, FBI and NSA, offering an “assessment” that Russia and President Putin were behind the release of the Democratic emails in a plot to help Trump win the presidency.
Despite the extraordinary gravity of the charge, even New York Times correspondent Scott Shane noted that proof was lacking. He wrote at the time: “What is missing from the [the Jan. 6] public report is what many Americans most eagerly anticipated: hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims that the Russian government engineered the election attack. … Instead, the message from the agencies essentially amounts to ‘trust us.’”
The Tangled Threads of Russia-gate
Russia hacked the DNC and gave the information to wikileaks. To deny that fact at this point is ludicrous. And now, thanks to 42 Republicans, those responsible for the attack will be handsomely rewarded.
That's a ridiculous assertion to make.
Wikileaks got their info from Seth Rich, though. The DNC figured out who the whistleblower was and killed him.
We do know. The FBI has no doubt who hacked the DNC servers. Nothing you just said is true, nothing.
You cannot post proof that they are. Deputy AG Rosenstein's case on those Russians was circumstantial, that is why they agreed to go to trial, and why it was dropped you fool.
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Lesh
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Uhhhh no. They didn't.
The GRU hacked the DNC computers.
RUSSIAN military intel
So again...why are the White House and 42 GOP Senators trying to ease sanctions on OVD?
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Folks be thinking an assessment is a fact. . . IT IS NOT.
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IT WAS A LEAK.
It was physically impossible to get the information over the internet. I don't know how many times you folks need to be told this.
If you can prove the Russians had agents inside the DNC, we'll consider this.
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There is NO PROOF is was Seth Rich.
What are you claiming there is no proof of?
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
"So, on Jan. 6, 2017, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper released an evidence-free report that he said was compiled by “hand-picked” analysts from the CIA, FBI and NSA, offering an “assessment” that Russia and President Putin were behind the release of the Democratic emails in a plot to help Trump win the presidency.
Despite the extraordinary gravity of the charge, even New York Times correspondent Scott Shane noted that proof was lacking. He wrote at the time: “What is missing from the [the Jan. 6] public report is what many Americans most eagerly anticipated: hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims that the Russian government engineered the election attack. … Instead, the message from the agencies essentially amounts to ‘trust us.’”
The Tangled Threads of Russia-gate
Russia hacked the DNC and gave the information to wikileaks. To deny that fact at this point is ludicrous. And now, thanks to 42 Republicans, those responsible for the attack will be handsomely rewarded.
That's a ridiculous assertion to make.
Wikileaks got their info from Seth Rich, though. The DNC figured out who the whistleblower was and killed him.
That is a conspiracy theory. There is only suspicion, innuendo, and casting about looking for who ganked the data. Is he the likely culprit because he was sore at how they were treating Bernie? Sure.
OTH, it might have been any of Bernie lackies. Or maybe Huma's husband , Weiner boy, didn't want her moving on up. Hell, maybe Bill Clinton did it because he didn't want his wife competing with his legacy. Who the hell knows? There are a million and one possibilities since Democrats are all crooked.
If LBJ would stoop to having his own boss shot, you KNOW it could be just about anyone.
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And how do you know this, hmm?
Because the DNC said so? No.
Because Russian trojans were found on the DNS server by data forensics? Hell no.
So that's 80% more implausible than my theory.
Marion Morrison
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What are you claiming there is no proof of?
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
The FBI Hand Behind Russia-gate
"So, on Jan. 6, 2017, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper released an evidence-free report that he said was compiled by “hand-picked” analysts from the CIA, FBI and NSA, offering an “assessment” that Russia and President Putin were behind the release of the Democratic emails in a plot to help Trump win the presidency.
Despite the extraordinary gravity of the charge, even New York Times correspondent Scott Shane noted that proof was lacking. He wrote at the time: “What is missing from the [the Jan. 6] public report is what many Americans most eagerly anticipated: hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims that the Russian government engineered the election attack. … Instead, the message from the agencies essentially amounts to ‘trust us.’”
The Tangled Threads of Russia-gate
Russia hacked the DNC and gave the information to wikileaks. To deny that fact at this point is ludicrous. And now, thanks to 42 Republicans, those responsible for the attack will be handsomely rewarded.
That's a ridiculous assertion to make.
Wikileaks got their info from Seth Rich, though. The DNC figured out who the whistleblower was and killed him.
We do know. The FBI has no doubt who hacked the DNC servers. Nothing you just said is true, nothing.
Show me where the FBI says who hacked the DNC servers. They (The FBI) never got to investigate the DNC servers, so.....
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And how do you know this, hmm?
Because the DNC said so? No.
Because Russian trojans were found on the DNS server by data forensics? Hell no.
So that's 80% more implausible than my theory.
Agreed. The physical circumstantial evidence in your theory is much more convincing.
IN fact, it even leads us to a culprit.
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