Theories of Violent Crime Rise in America

[22lcidw]

No thank you
I don’t want to hold up the morality of the 1800s

Slavery, Native American genocide, anti-woman, anti-immigrant

See what trying to get ten dollars of socialism from one dollar of real growth gets you as this progresses more and more.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

It's always been a moral nation. You do know that moral people and institutions arent perfect right? Are you moral? If so have you never done anything immoral? And if that's true how can you say you are moral?

So allowing slavery to thrive in this country for almost 200yrs is moral? Allowing Jim Crow segregation to thrive in this country for almost 100yrs is moral. Allowing murder, rape, brutalization, inhumane treatment of another human being is moral.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Again, when was America a moral nation?

Right on cue, you refuse to answer the question because it would show you’re wrong.

 

[rightwinger]

Yet you claim all those things exist in America today.
One of every ten men in America became a casualty of war to free men they didn’t know over 150 years ago. Think they’d do that today?

It was a war whose purpose was to fight for the right to enslave other men

Not a noble war

 

[Couchpotato]

So allowing slavery to thrive in this country for almost 200yrs is moral? Allowing Jim Crow segregation to thrive in this country for almost 100yrs is moral. Allowing murder, rape, brutalization, inhumane treatment of another human being is moral.

Did I say that? But that doesn't mean that the country wasn't moral. If your standard for a moral country is one that has never done anything immoral then sure the US isn't moral, but neither is any other country in existence so what exactly is your point?

Countries arent made up of single individual mind sets so there are going to be times/issues where they get it wrong. The test is whether those who stand on the side of morality and what is right eventually win. That happened with both slavery and jim crowe in this country as well as a myriad of other issues.

 

[rightwinger]

Are we so simple that we can't take good parts of things and leave the bad parts behind? Seriously. In your mind it's all or nothing? There's nothing about that time period that is good?

I have difficulty holding up the 1800s as a model for morality

I prefer today

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The vaccinations make people irrational and more aggressive than usual.

The over-diagnosis and prescription use of Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor (SSRI) medication would be the real culprit here.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I have difficulty holding up the 1800s as a model for morality

I prefer today

For example?

If you're falling back on slavery, the world has more slaves today than it ever has. And wasn't the birth of your failed yet beloved ideology, communism, in the 1800s?

 

[Weatherman2020]

It was a war whose purpose was to fight for the right to enslave other men

Not a noble war

So you don’t think it noble to fight for the freedom of others.
That’s why you’re a Leftist.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Right on cue, you refuse to answer the question because it would show you’re wrong.

So you think by saying, "name another country that is more moral" makes you a moral nation.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Did I say that? But that doesn't mean that the country wasn't moral. If your standard for a moral country is one that has never done anything immoral then sure the US isn't moral, but neither is any other country in existence so what exactly is your point?

Countries arent made up of single individual mind sets so there are going to be times/issues where they get it wrong. The test is whether those who stand on the side of morality and what is right eventually win. That happened with both slavery and jim crowe in this country as well as a myriad of other issues.

Sorry, but if it took you 300yrs to stand on the side of morality probably means you are not moral.

 

[Couchpotato]

I have difficulty holding up the 1800s as a model for morality

I prefer today

Ok. But again it's not you take it all or you take nothing is it? Are you really saying that everything about today is better from a moral standpoint than everything in the 1800's or any other time of history? There are certainly things that have gotten better, much much better, but there are also things that have gotten worse from a moral perspective.

 

[Couchpotato]

Sorry, but if it took you 300yrs to stand on the side of morality probably means you are not moral.

cool the US is an immoral country. now what.

 

[Couchpotato]

Sorry, but if it took you 300yrs to stand on the side of morality probably means you are not moral.

Also the country isnt 300 years old so....

 

[Superbadbrutha]

cool the US is an immoral country. now what.

All countries are immoral.

 

[Penelope]

We have always been an immoral nation; look at the divorce rate, the amounts of suicides, the crime, slavery, Jim crow laws, the drugs and drinking people use, etc.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Also the country isnt 300 years old so....

What year was the original 13 colonies establsihed?

When did the first slaves reach these shores?

 

[Couchpotato]

What year was the original 13 colonies establsihed?

When did the first slaves reach these shores?

So the US is responsible for all its evils as well as the evils of the countries that occupied the same dirt as the US as well? If you’re not interested in a serious discussion you should just say that

 

[surada]

Hilarious ignorance. Name a more moral nation. I ask you loons all the time for a nation greater than America and have never ever gotten an answer.

Because you know you’re a liar.

Slavery and Jim Crowe weren't moral.. Neither was child labor.

You reactionaries have to be dragged kicking and screaming into modernity and civil rights.

 

[surada]

So the US is responsible for all its evils as well as the evils of the countries that occupied the same dirt as the US as well? If you’re not interested in a serious discussion you should just say that

Weatherman was blathering about how moral the United States used to be, We are still talking about the US not other countries.