Then they came for us...

[SAT2]

Tell that to Marx.

"You are horrified at our intending to do away with private property. But in your existing society, private property is already done away with for nine-tenths of the population; its existence for the few is solely due to its non-existence in the hands of those nine-tenths. You reproach us, therefore, with intending to do away with a form of property, the necessary condition for whose existence is the non-existence of any property for the immense majority of society."

"The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."

KARL MARX, The Communist Manifesto

Except liberals and progressives are not Marxists.

Where did you folks go to school?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Tell that to Marx.

"You are horrified at our intending to do away with private property. But in your existing society, private property is already done away with for nine-tenths of the population; its existence for the few is solely due to its non-existence in the hands of those nine-tenths. You reproach us, therefore, with intending to do away with a form of property, the necessary condition for whose existence is the non-existence of any property for the immense majority of society."

"The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."

KARL MARX, The Communist Manifesto

Except liberals and progressives are not Marxists.

Where did you folks go to school?

Where did you go to school? Karl Marx High school?

 

[SAT2]

Tell that to Marx.

"You are horrified at our intending to do away with private property. But in your existing society, private property is already done away with for nine-tenths of the population; its existence for the few is solely due to its non-existence in the hands of those nine-tenths. You reproach us, therefore, with intending to do away with a form of property, the necessary condition for whose existence is the non-existence of any property for the immense majority of society."

"The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."

KARL MARX, The Communist Manifesto

Except liberals and progressives are not Marxists.

Where did you folks go to school?

Where did you go to school? Karl Marx High school?

Here in America, where they taught me history. You guys are attending Glenn Beck University, where no idea is too crazy or ahistorical to be included in the curriculum.

 

[rdean]

Tell that to Marx.

"You are horrified at our intending to do away with private property. But in your existing society, private property is already done away with for nine-tenths of the population; its existence for the few is solely due to its non-existence in the hands of those nine-tenths. You reproach us, therefore, with intending to do away with a form of property, the necessary condition for whose existence is the non-existence of any property for the immense majority of society."

"The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."

KARL MARX, The Communist Manifesto

Except liberals and progressives are not Marxists.

Where did you folks go to school?

Sunday School.

 

[rdean]

Holding judges accountable IS constitutional! Accountability is what the Constitution is all about! A government that is accountable to "We the People" is EXACTLY what the founders intended!

By the way, stop the inflammatory BULL SHIT. Newt didn't suggest we "arrest" judges...unless they break the law that is. He suggest calling them before Congress to explain why they decided to LEGISLATE from the bench and kicking them off the bench if they can't explain why it's constitutional. VERY different and VERY much in keep with our Constitution!

Not at all. What he proposes is not in keeping with the constitution.

The root word is progress. As in progressing toward a freer and more just world.

Yes, it needed progress. Women weren't allowed to vote. Black people could be owned and sold, and so could their children. There was no public education and no standing army. Yes, we needed progress. You are being ignorant.



I wasn't saying that we should remake the world through force. I was speaking of progressives and liberals, in their own nations.



A valid point. We have elected representatives. This sort of blows up your stuff about Newt and his posse going after judges, though.



A representative democracy best describes our government.

Democracies work well.

LMAOff!!!

Law and Order is the name of a freaking TV show. RULE OF LAW is what the Constitution provides in EQUAL measure for all US CITIZENS and is the motto for conservatives!

Law and order has been a GOP campaign talking point for a long time. You probably are in your twenties or thirties and don't remember how much Pub candidates used to say this.

Law and order (politics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The rule of law and a guarantee of equal justice under that law for all citizens is the thing that separates us from the rest of the world...PERIOD!

Actually, no. Other nations in the world, not just the US, have the rule of law as well, and equal rights for citizens. Call Glenn Beck. Demand your money back.

You just described a time Republicans want to "go back to". They consider that America's "Golden Age".

 

[Big Fitz]

Liberalism=Socialism=Progressivism=Communism=Marxism=Fascism

They only vary sleightly in how they achieve the same ends.

No. They are not remotely the same thing, and they do not have the same ends. They are not shades of the same thing. You do not understand what you are talking about. You make claims, but you cannot back them up, because they have no basis in reality.

Oh you so proved your assertions so well.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Except liberals and progressives are not Marxists.

Where did you folks go to school?

Where did you go to school? Karl Marx High school?

Here in America, where they taught me history. You guys are attending Glenn Beck University, where no idea is too crazy or ahistorical to be included in the curriculum.

Marx and Alinsky trained you well.

 

[Big Fitz]

And what political party has a major contender for the nomination to run for President that is talking of arresting judges?

Who brought in the Patriot Bill?

Instead of judging a person's politics by the flap yap about liberty and the Constitution, judge them by what the people they support are doing. By that standard, the 'Conservatives' are the ones that are supporting fascistic ideas and ideology.

Holding judges accountable IS constitutional! Accountability is what the Constitution is all about! A government that is accountable to "We the People" is EXACTLY what the founders intended!

By the way, stop the inflammatory BULL SHIT. Newt didn't suggest we "arrest" judges...unless they break the law that is. He suggest calling them before Congress to explain why they decided to LEGISLATE from the bench and kicking them off the bench if they can't explain why it's constitutional. VERY different and VERY much in keep with our Constitution!

Next, care to guess who WROTE the Patriot Act and when? I'll save ya the trouble. The ULTIMATE progressive, Joe Biden in 1994!

It was passed as a compromise to put an end the endless string of calls for investigations and legislative obstructionism in Congress by democrats in the wake of 9/11.

It was STUPID...knee jerk reactionary legislation by the frightened and MOST of it needs to GO!

LOST...some folks are just lost!

The root word is progress. As in progressing toward a freer and more just world.

Dude, the founders wrote the documents that founded the freest, most prosperous and just society in the HISTORY OF MAN over 200 years ago. IT DON'T NEED PROGRESS!

And that bull about "a more just world" is EXACTLY the kind of crap that has led to every mistake made by this country in all our history. It is NOT OUR JOB to progress the rest of the world. That would be the ideology of fascism!

If they want to grab hold and hang on because of the example we set...let um, but it's NOT your or any other progressive/liberal/socialist/communist/fascist do-gooder or leader in this country to decide what is progress for the rest of the world!

It was not authoritarian. We have an elected government. Do you understand the difference.

Do YOU? See, this is the kind of ridiculous crap we get when people who do not understand our history, the history of world governments or the Constitution start talking. Fortunately...our founders DID!

THIS IS NOT ENGLAND...or Iraq or any other country on the planet. We do NOT elect a government. We elect REPRESENTATIVES to fill slots in our representative government that DOES NOT CHANGE. Our representatives are place holders from each generation with a SWORN OATH to uphold the founding document for the next generation...NOT the government!

Do YOU understand? There is a HELL of a difference! You live under a Representative Republic...NOT a democracy. You do NOT vote to change our form of government with the ideology of the representatives you elect. Democracies mostly do and democracies DON'T WORK!

WE are the government!

"Law and order" has been the motto of the GOP for decades.

LMAOff!!!

Law and Order is the name of a freaking TV show. RULE OF LAW is what the Constitution provides in EQUAL measure for all US CITIZENS and is the motto for conservatives!

The rule of law and a guarantee of equal justice under that law for all citizens is the thing that separates us from the rest of the world...PERIOD!

Oh look. Someone else who is ignorant of history and that the nazis, socialists and anarists of the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th centuries called themselves progressives!

This "judge me by my intentions, not my actions" crap is getting really long in the tooth.

 

[Photonic]

And what political party has a major contender for the nomination to run for President that is talking of arresting judges?

Who brought in the Patriot Bill?

Instead of judging a person's politics by the flap yap about liberty and the Constitution, judge them by what the people they support are doing. By that standard, the 'Conservatives' are the ones that are supporting fascistic ideas and ideology.

Holding judges accountable IS constitutional! Accountability is what the Constitution is all about! A government that is accountable to "We the People" is EXACTLY what the founders intended!

By the way, stop the inflammatory BULL SHIT. Newt didn't suggest we "arrest" judges...unless they break the law that is. He suggest calling them before Congress to explain why they decided to LEGISLATE from the bench and kicking them off the bench if they can't explain why it's constitutional. VERY different and VERY much in keep with our Constitution!

Next, care to guess who WROTE the Patriot Act and when? I'll save ya the trouble. The ULTIMATE progressive, Joe Biden in 1994!

It was passed as a compromise to put an end the endless string of calls for investigations and legislative obstructionism in Congress by democrats in the wake of 9/11.

It was STUPID...knee jerk reactionary legislation by the frightened and MOST of it needs to GO!

LOST...some folks are just lost!

The root word is progress. As in progressing toward a freer and more just world.

Dude, the founders wrote the documents that founded the freest, most prosperous and just society in the HISTORY OF MAN over 200 years ago. IT DON'T NEED PROGRESS!

And that bull about "a more just world" is EXACTLY the kind of crap that has led to every mistake made by this country in all our history. It is NOT OUR JOB to progress the rest of the world. That would be the ideology of fascism!

If they want to grab hold and hang on because of the example we set...let um, but it's NOT your or any other progressive/liberal/socialist/communist/fascist do-gooder or leader in this country to decide what is progress for the rest of the world!

It was not authoritarian. We have an elected government. Do you understand the difference.

Do YOU? See, this is the kind of ridiculous crap we get when people who do not understand our history, the history of world governments or the Constitution start talking. Fortunately...our founders DID!

THIS IS NOT ENGLAND...or Iraq or any other country on the planet. We do NOT elect a government. We elect REPRESENTATIVES to fill slots in our representative government that DOES NOT CHANGE. Our representatives are place holders from each generation with a SWORN OATH to uphold the founding document for the next generation...NOT the government!

Do YOU understand? There is a HELL of a difference! You live under a Representative Republic...NOT a democracy. You do NOT vote to change our form of government with the ideology of the representatives you elect. Democracies mostly do and democracies DON'T WORK!

WE are the government!

"Law and order" has been the motto of the GOP for decades.

LMAOff!!!

Law and Order is the name of a freaking TV show. RULE OF LAW is what the Constitution provides in EQUAL measure for all US CITIZENS and is the motto for conservatives!

The rule of law and a guarantee of equal justice under that law for all citizens is the thing that separates us from the rest of the world...PERIOD!

Everything needs progress or it stagnates and dies. History should have taught you that.

 

[SAT2]

Oh look. Someone else who is ignorant of history and that the nazis, socialists and anarists of the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th centuries called themselves progressives!

This "judge me by my intentions, not my actions" crap is getting really long in the tooth.

Hitler's movement arose after WWI, not "at the end of the 19th and beginning of the 20th Century".

There is no such thing as an anarist.

Some socialists might have called themselves progressives. Who can back that up with a link? Certainly not you, you've yet to do anything but post your untethered thoughts followed by an emoticon.

They came for the woman who had been raped and sought out an abortion.

They came for the college professor and the teacher who wanted to teach science.

They came for the scientist who warned of man made catastrophe and birth defects.

They came for the college student who wanted a job.

They came for the atheist who refused to bow down before mystical beliefs.

They came for those that speak a different language.

They came for the artist who gave us enlightenment.

They came for the man who dared to love another man.

They came for the women who dared to love another woman.

And finally, when only Republicans and Conservatives were left, they looked around at the "Heaven" they thought they had created and discovered they were in "Hell".

Bump.

 

[Katzndogz]

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.

- Martin Niemöller

Who will speak for us when they come, I ask you?

They came for the woman who had been raped and sought out an abortion.

They came for the college professor and the teacher who wanted to teach science.

They came for the scientist who warned of man made catastrophe and birth defects.

They came for the college student who wanted a job.

They came for the atheist who refused to bow down before mystical beliefs.

They came for those that speak a different language.

They came for the artist who gave us enlightenment.

They came for the man who dared to love another man.

They came for the women who dared to love another woman.

And finally, when only Republicans and Conservatives were left, they looked around at the "Heaven" they thought they had created and discovered they were in "Hell".

No one is coming for them at all. Certainly no one wants to silence them! Haven't college students been screaming for a couple of months that they should be highly paid for doing nothing? Is Piss Christ not enough enlightenment for you? Are atheists being persecuted because they aren't bowing down, or are they they ones doing the silencing.

Never underestimate the lies a liberal will tell.

 

[SAT2]

College students didn't say anything of the sort.

Piss Christ is a story from long ago. Is that your best shot?

What atheist has attempted to silence you?

 

[Photonic]

Who will speak for us when they come, I ask you?

They came for the woman who had been raped and sought out an abortion.

They came for the college professor and the teacher who wanted to teach science.

They came for the scientist who warned of man made catastrophe and birth defects.

They came for the college student who wanted a job.

They came for the atheist who refused to bow down before mystical beliefs.

They came for those that speak a different language.

They came for the artist who gave us enlightenment.

They came for the man who dared to love another man.

They came for the women who dared to love another woman.

And finally, when only Republicans and Conservatives were left, they looked around at the "Heaven" they thought they had created and discovered they were in "Hell".

No one is coming for them at all. Certainly no one wants to silence them! Haven't college students been screaming for a couple of months that they should be highly paid for doing nothing? Is Piss Christ not enough enlightenment for you? Are atheists being persecuted because they aren't bowing down, or are they they ones doing the silencing.

Never underestimate the lies a liberal will tell.

I don't think you understand a few basic assertions here. Atheists are most certainly persecuted.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They came for the woman who had been raped and sought out an abortion.

They came for the college professor and the teacher who wanted to teach science.

They came for the scientist who warned of man made catastrophe and birth defects.

They came for the college student who wanted a job.

They came for the atheist who refused to bow down before mystical beliefs.

They came for those that speak a different language.

They came for the artist who gave us enlightenment.

They came for the man who dared to love another man.

They came for the women who dared to love another woman.

And finally, when only Republicans and Conservatives were left, they looked around at the "Heaven" they thought they had created and discovered they were in "Hell".

No one is coming for them at all. Certainly no one wants to silence them! Haven't college students been screaming for a couple of months that they should be highly paid for doing nothing? Is Piss Christ not enough enlightenment for you? Are atheists being persecuted because they aren't bowing down, or are they they ones doing the silencing.

Never underestimate the lies a liberal will tell.

I don't think you understand a few basic assertions here. Atheists are most certainly persecuted.

only in their damn mind.

 

[techieny]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-lJZiqZaGA]They're Coming to Take Me Away Hahaaa! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[westwall]

Tell that to Marx.

"You are horrified at our intending to do away with private property. But in your existing society, private property is already done away with for nine-tenths of the population; its existence for the few is solely due to its non-existence in the hands of those nine-tenths. You reproach us, therefore, with intending to do away with a form of property, the necessary condition for whose existence is the non-existence of any property for the immense majority of society."

"The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."

KARL MARX, The Communist Manifesto

Except liberals and progressives are not Marxists.

Where did you folks go to school?

Liberals maybe not, but progressives are Marxists light.

 

[rdean]

No one is coming for them at all. Certainly no one wants to silence them! Haven't college students been screaming for a couple of months that they should be highly paid for doing nothing? Is Piss Christ not enough enlightenment for you? Are atheists being persecuted because they aren't bowing down, or are they they ones doing the silencing.

Never underestimate the lies a liberal will tell.

I don't think you understand a few basic assertions here. Atheists are most certainly persecuted.

only in their damn mind.

Tell that to Pat Tillman.

 

[Intense]

Wow, this Thread has gone from bad to worse. It's the Country that get's bashed with language. Why do you hate the USA so much? You all are so knee deep in Bullshit here, you should get an award for it. "The Sky Is Falling Award". RDean, I nominate you first, Photonic, you second, and SAT2, you Third. Personally, I thank God for putting me here, in the USA, in this very time. I am also thankful for all of the improvements, in Vision, Dreams, Realization, Invention, Discovery, Quality of Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. Nowhere else has effected such positive change on our lives in recorded history.
Let's remember to try and live within our means, not expecting or imposing on others, for what we can attain ourselves. Remember to Love Each Other, and show consideration and Respect. Bear Witness and try to tell the truth about what you see. Watch out for Greed, Envy, Jealousy, Hate, Lust, to name a few. They can all be killers. You All be good now. I'll leave the light on for Ya.

 

[Intense]

Tell that to Marx.

"You are horrified at our intending to do away with private property. But in your existing society, private property is already done away with for nine-tenths of the population; its existence for the few is solely due to its non-existence in the hands of those nine-tenths. You reproach us, therefore, with intending to do away with a form of property, the necessary condition for whose existence is the non-existence of any property for the immense majority of society."

"The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property."

KARL MARX, The Communist Manifesto

Except liberals and progressives are not Marxists.

Where did you folks go to school?

Liberals maybe not, but progressives are Marxists light.

Be fair, not all liberals or progressives are Statist Progressives. I concur, all Statist Progressives are Totalitarian and Hostile towards that which they have no credibility, influence, or control over.

 

[rdean]

Clearly, Republicans are working for "voter suppression".

Clearly, Republicans put the welfare of corporations ahead of helping Americans, which the party of "let him die" sees as "socialism".

Clearly, Republicans are even targeting women who have been raped.

Clearly, Republicans are slashing funding for education.

Clearly, the first step towards a "national religion" is a "national language".

Clearly, Republicans have targeted gays for decades.

Clearly, the right wing has attempted to force their religion on us again and again.

Clearly there is a war going on. Right this minute. Republicans against America and the American middle class.