The Wild West Bank

[docmauser1]

"Recently, Israeli leaders have begun to recognize the problem. Following extremist vandalism against the IDF and mainstream settler leaders over the past year, some Israeli generals and government ministers began to label radical settlers as terrorists

."Israel has its share of the leftists in the government and the army, of course, something nonexistent in arab states.

 

[SAYIT]

Do settlers teach their children to hate and kill Arabs?

"Radical Jewish activists have staged politically motivated attacks against Palestinians and pro-peace Israelis before. In the early 1980s, for example, one group, known as the Jewish Underground, carried out a series of bombings against Arab mayors and shot three Arab students in the West Bank. And in 1995, an Israeli law student, Yigal Amir, assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, dealing a devastating blow to the peace process.

"Israeli authorities have investigated and prosecuted those involved in these operations, and they have disrupted other attacks before they could occur. Yet they have failed to stem less dramatic violence, such as arson and assault.

"According to UN investigations, in 2011, extremist settlers launched almost 300 attacks on Palestinian property, causing over 100 Palestinian casualties and destroying or damaging about 10,000 trees of Palestinian farmers.

"The UN has also reported that violent incidents against Palestinians have proliferated, rising from 200 attacks in 2009 to over 400 in 2011. The spike in assaults on Palestinians by settlers has come despite the fact that over the same period, Palestinian terrorism fell dramatically."

http://ic.galegroup.com.libpxy.lacitycollege.edu/ic/ovic/AcademicJournalsDetailsPage/AcademicJournalsDetailsWindow?failOverType=&query=&prodId=OVIC&windowstate=normal&contentModules=&mode=view&displayGroupName=Journals&limiter=&currPage=&disableHighlighting=true&source=&sortBy=&displayGroups=&action=e&catId=&activityType=&scanId=&documentId=GALE%7CA302770674

Who authored that "report" and where did they get their "info?"

 

[georgephillip]

Do settlers teach their children to hate and kill Arabs?

"Radical Jewish activists have staged politically motivated attacks against Palestinians and pro-peace Israelis before. In the early 1980s, for example, one group, known as the Jewish Underground, carried out a series of bombings against Arab mayors and shot three Arab students in the West Bank. And in 1995, an Israeli law student, Yigal Amir, assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, dealing a devastating blow to the peace process.

"Israeli authorities have investigated and prosecuted those involved in these operations, and they have disrupted other attacks before they could occur. Yet they have failed to stem less dramatic violence, such as arson and assault.

"According to UN investigations, in 2011, extremist settlers launched almost 300 attacks on Palestinian property, causing over 100 Palestinian casualties and destroying or damaging about 10,000 trees of Palestinian farmers.

"The UN has also reported that violent incidents against Palestinians have proliferated, rising from 200 attacks in 2009 to over 400 in 2011. The spike in assaults on Palestinians by settlers has come despite the fact that over the same period, Palestinian terrorism fell dramatically."

http://ic.galegroup.com.libpxy.lacitycollege.edu/ic/ovic/AcademicJournalsDetailsPage/AcademicJournalsDetailsWindow?failOverType=&query=&prodId=OVIC&windowstate=normal&contentModules=&mode=view&displayGroupName=Journals&limiter=&currPage=&disableHighlighting=true&source=&sortBy=&displayGroups=&action=e&catId=&activityType=&scanId=&documentId=GALE%7CA302770674

So, Georgie, can you show us where you have actually proven from a legitimate source that the Seattlers teach their children to kill Arabs. Meanwhile, we have seen the videos of cartoons made for Palestinian children where they teach them to kill the Jews. It would have been nice if Georgie would have told us that the rioting Muslims on the Temple Mount the other day were yelling that they were going to butcher the Jews. Maybe Georgie is hoping that this will happen.

Maybe one-third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine should not have inflicted a Jewish state upon the majority of Palestinians in 1948?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Quote: Originally Posted by P F Tinmore

It is always open season on soldiers. It is not illegal to attack foreign troops.


tinnie is always trying to find a way to legalize murder. For the record----if you come across a soldier from a foreign country----you cannot murder him----its a crime The US occupied several countries after world war II-------and we are all glad that the people there did not take the criminal advice of Tinnie. Al Azhar University which contains the KORANIC SCHOLARS considered authoritative by the Sunnis of the world has ruled that killing any jews is legal because all jews can be considered possible supporters of Israel or ever potential soldiers The idea makes tinnie salivate ----hopefully----whatever group with which he and ---anyone associated with him is affiliated will become subject to a similar concept

Show me the law that makes it illegal to attack foreign troops.

Everyone has the right to defend their country.

 

[georgephillip]

Do settlers teach their children to hate and kill Arabs?

"Radical Jewish activists have staged politically motivated attacks against Palestinians and pro-peace Israelis before. In the early 1980s, for example, one group, known as the Jewish Underground, carried out a series of bombings against Arab mayors and shot three Arab students in the West Bank. And in 1995, an Israeli law student, Yigal Amir, assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, dealing a devastating blow to the peace process.

"Israeli authorities have investigated and prosecuted those involved in these operations, and they have disrupted other attacks before they could occur. Yet they have failed to stem less dramatic violence, such as arson and assault.

"According to UN investigations, in 2011, extremist settlers launched almost 300 attacks on Palestinian property, causing over 100 Palestinian casualties and destroying or damaging about 10,000 trees of Palestinian farmers.

"The UN has also reported that violent incidents against Palestinians have proliferated, rising from 200 attacks in 2009 to over 400 in 2011. The spike in assaults on Palestinians by settlers has come despite the fact that over the same period, Palestinian terrorism fell dramatically."

http://ic.galegroup.com.libpxy.lacitycollege.edu/ic/ovic/AcademicJournalsDetailsPage/AcademicJournalsDetailsWindow?failOverType=&query=&prodId=OVIC&windowstate=normal&contentModules=&mode=view&displayGroupName=Journals&limiter=&currPage=&disableHighlighting=true&source=&sortBy=&displayGroups=&action=e&catId=&activityType=&scanId=&documentId=GALE%7CA302770674

Who authored that "report" and where did they get their "info?"

I didn't realize my link was behind a pay wall.
Here's another on the same general topic of Israeli settler terrorism:

"Public outrage over attacks on the military last year prompted steps by Israeli authorities that included temporarily expelling several radical settlers from the West Bank in January, but critics say those moves were not enough. That message was echoed in a European Union report this year, which noted that settler attacks on Palestinians tripled between 2009 and 2011.

"Researchers say most of those attacks have taken place in Area C, the sections of the West Bank that are controlled solely by Israel and where Israeli security forces are responsible for protecting both Palestinians and Israelis."

Settler violence against Palestinians raises alarm in Israel - The Washington Post

 

[member]

Georgephillip: "...you notice settler terror attacks have increased at the same time Palestinian terrorism fell dramatically? ==== "According to UN investigations"


the palestinians have a terrorist organization in place as their "GOVERNMENT." like pebbles, i bet YOU "can't wait" either...

 

[Hossfly]

Do settlers teach their children to hate and kill Arabs?

"Radical Jewish activists have staged politically motivated attacks against Palestinians and pro-peace Israelis before. In the early 1980s, for example, one group, known as the Jewish Underground, carried out a series of bombings against Arab mayors and shot three Arab students in the West Bank. And in 1995, an Israeli law student, Yigal Amir, assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, dealing a devastating blow to the peace process.

"Israeli authorities have investigated and prosecuted those involved in these operations, and they have disrupted other attacks before they could occur. Yet they have failed to stem less dramatic violence, such as arson and assault.

"According to UN investigations, in 2011, extremist settlers launched almost 300 attacks on Palestinian property, causing over 100 Palestinian casualties and destroying or damaging about 10,000 trees of Palestinian farmers.

"The UN has also reported that violent incidents against Palestinians have proliferated, rising from 200 attacks in 2009 to over 400 in 2011. The spike in assaults on Palestinians by settlers has come despite the fact that over the same period, Palestinian terrorism fell dramatically."

http://ic.galegroup.com.libpxy.lacitycollege.edu/ic/ovic/AcademicJournalsDetailsPage/AcademicJournalsDetailsWindow?failOverType=&query=&prodId=OVIC&windowstate=normal&contentModules=&mode=view&displayGroupName=Journals&limiter=&currPage=&disableHighlighting=true&source=&sortBy=&displayGroups=&action=e&catId=&activityType=&scanId=&documentId=GALE%7CA302770674

So, Georgie, can you show us where you have actually proven from a legitimate source that the Seattlers teach their children to kill Arabs. Meanwhile, we have seen the videos of cartoons made for Palestinian children where they teach them to kill the Jews. It would have been nice if Georgie would have told us that the rioting Muslims on the Temple Mount the other day were yelling that they were going to butcher the Jews. Maybe Georgie is hoping that this will happen.

Maybe one-third of the citizens of Mandate Palestine should not have inflicted a Jewish state upon the majority of Palestinians in 1948?

Georgie seems to forget that most of the so-called Palestinians of the Palestine Mandate are living in Jordan where the Hashemites of Saudi Arabia received 78 percent of the land to rule over. Georgie must think that 78 percent is just chopped liver.

 

[georgephillip]

"World War I. British civil administration in Palestine operated from 1920 until 1948. This administration was formalised with the League of Nations' consent in 1923 under the British Mandate for Palestine which covered two administrative areas. The land west of the Jordan River, known as Palestine, was under direct British administration until 1948, while the land east of the Jordan was a semi-autonomous region known as Transjordan, under the rule of the Hashemite family from the Hijaz, and gained independence in 1946."

Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Hossfly]

"World War I. British civil administration in Palestine operated from 1920 until 1948. This administration was formalised with the League of Nations' consent in 1923 under the British Mandate for Palestine which covered two administrative areas. The land west of the Jordan River, known as Palestine, was under direct British administration until 1948, while the land east of the Jordan was a semi-autonomous region known as Transjordan, under the rule of the Hashemite family from the Hijaz, and gained independence in 1946."

Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So tell us, Georgie boy, who were the inhabitants of Trans Jordan. They were the Arabs weren't they, and they had to be under the rule of the Hashemites. Meanwhile, at the time it was the Jews who were considered the Palestinians and the Arabs in the area were called just plain Arabs or Syrians. Why not tell us who was manning the Palestine booth at the 1940 World's Fair in New York, and what was the previous name of the Jerusalem Post? Anyhow, take this up with Hamas........

Hamas leader admits 'Palestinian' identity is invented
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 | Ryan Jones

US Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich has come under a lot of fire for saying that the "Palestinians" are an invented people. Most have ridiculed Gingrich by pointing out there are clearly millions of Arabs living in so-called "Palestine."

But Gingrich wasn't talking about the physical presence of those people today, but rather the national identity they have adopted and the fact that most immigrated to the land not so long ago.

In a televised address on Al-Hekma TV last week, Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad basically backed up Gingrich's assessment, acknowledging that the roots of most "Palestinians" are elsewhere in the Middle East, and that the Palestinian label is only a thin veneer.

Those pushing for a Palestinian state try to paint the Palestinian Arabs as somehow distinct from the Arabs round-about, and therefore in need of their own state. Not so, said Hammad. "Every Palestinian, in Gaza and throughout Palestine, can prove his Arab roots - whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere. We have blood ties."

More than that, Hammad stated that the true regional background of most "Palestinians" is not in "Palestine."

"Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis," exclaimed the Hamas minister.

Hammad's remarks were undoubtedly never intended for a Western audience. Rather, he was pleading with Egypt and other neighboring states to supply Hamas-ruled Gaza with free fuel, which Hammad said Hamas would use "in order to continue to wage Jihad."

 

[Hossfly]

Do settlers teach their children to hate and kill Arabs?

"Radical Jewish activists have staged politically motivated attacks against Palestinians and pro-peace Israelis before. In the early 1980s, for example, one group, known as the Jewish Underground, carried out a series of bombings against Arab mayors and shot three Arab students in the West Bank. And in 1995, an Israeli law student, Yigal Amir, assassinated Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, dealing a devastating blow to the peace process.

"Israeli authorities have investigated and prosecuted those involved in these operations, and they have disrupted other attacks before they could occur. Yet they have failed to stem less dramatic violence, such as arson and assault.

"According to UN investigations, in 2011, extremist settlers launched almost 300 attacks on Palestinian property, causing over 100 Palestinian casualties and destroying or damaging about 10,000 trees of Palestinian farmers.

"The UN has also reported that violent incidents against Palestinians have proliferated, rising from 200 attacks in 2009 to over 400 in 2011. The spike in assaults on Palestinians by settlers has come despite the fact that over the same period, Palestinian terrorism fell dramatically."

http://ic.galegroup.com.libpxy.lacitycollege.edu/ic/ovic/AcademicJournalsDetailsPage/AcademicJournalsDetailsWindow?failOverType=&query=&prodId=OVIC&windowstate=normal&contentModules=&mode=view&displayGroupName=Journals&limiter=&currPage=&disableHighlighting=true&source=&sortBy=&displayGroups=&action=e&catId=&activityType=&scanId=&documentId=GALE%7CA302770674

So, Georgie, can you show us where you have actually proven from a legitimate source that the Seattlers teach their children to kill Arabs. Meanwhile, we have seen the videos of cartoons made for Palestinian children where they teach them to kill the Jews. It would have been nice if Georgie would have told us that the rioting Muslims on the Temple Mount the other day were yelling that they were going to butcher the Jews. Maybe Georgie is hoping that this will happen.

"Almost everything related to the Israeli-Palestinian dispute involves complex tradeoffs and sorting through opposing and often equally legitimate claims. But trying to stop settler violence is a clear moral and political imperative.

"Israelis, who know the horrors of terrorism better than the citizens of any other democracy, should have a special understanding of the need to ensure that extremist violence does not ruin the lives of Palestinians and prevent Israel from making hard but necessary choices about its future.

"Whether the conflict continues indefinitely or the peace talks soon resume, Israel must confront its homegrown terrorism problem.

DANIEL BYMAN is a Professor in the Security Studies Program at the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University and Director of Research at the Saban Center at the Brookings Institution. He is the author of A High Price: The Triumphs and Failures of Israeli Counterterrorism. NATAN SACHS is a Fellow at the Saban Center."

http://ic.galegroup.com.libpxy.lacitycollege.edu/ic/ovic/AcademicJournalsDetailsPage/AcademicJournalsDetailsWindow?failOverType=&query=&prodId=OVIC&windowstate=normal&contentModules=&mode=view&displayGroupName=Journals&limiter=&currPage=&disableHighlighting=true&source=&sortBy=&displayGroups=&action=e&catId=&activityType=&scanId=&documentId=GALE%7CA302770674

BTW, Muslims would not be rioting today if one-third of the population of Mandate Palestine had not inflicted a Jewish state upon an Arab majority in 1948. Arabs resist an illegal occupation and Jews enforce it.

Why, Georgie, if Mohammed and his gang didn't invade the surrounding countries, all those Christians -- the Copts, the Chaldeans, the Assyrians -- would be able to practice their religion in peace. However, Georgie would never think of the Muslims inflicting occupation on this segment of society. Oh, Georgie, Muslims would be rioting today over one thing or another even if there was no Israel. Now since Georgie has brought up terrorism.......
Family Security Matters

 

[irosie91]

The islamo nazi pig claim>>>>

BTW, Muslims would not be rioting today if one-third of the population of Mandate Palestine had not inflicted a Jewish state upon an Arab majority in 1948. Arabs resist an illegal occupation and Jews enforce it.


For those unfamiliar with islamo-nazi pig propaganda over the past more than 1000 years------keep in mind----the most important issue in all such propaganda is Libel---or more simply -----in this case---BLAME IT ALL ON THE JEWS (for the ku klux klan----the issue is "blame it all on the blacks---or at least most of it)

Way back in the early 1930s my own mother-in-law --- being at that time an "orphan" in that her father died when she was eleven-----faced enslavement and forced conversion to islam-----forced "being the sex slave" to the local muslim chieftain (in that area of the world called "imam")-----She was spirited out of the country (thru an ordeal lasting more than seven years) to palestine. Of course---given the right to so engage-----Muslims would not be rioting today Lets see how that FORCED partition of Sudan pans out------and whether those TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ENSLAVED CHRISTIAN CHILDREN can be rescued -------(georgie will be indignant if they are---to make georgie happy-------I will assure him------not ALL of the enslaved jewish children in the country in which my mother-in-law escaped-----got saved----there is a very interesting history of one------who managed to stay in contact thru the 1940s)


the basis for the enslavement of non muslim children is ISLAMIC LAW which grants "muslim guardianship" for any fatherless non muslim child. This is the law which makes enslavement of the children of murdered men and raped women LEGAL according to the laws of Khartoum. Georgie heartily supports the glorious idea because where muslims can IMPOSE it------they tend to riot less and where pogroms upon non muslims are not a "crime" ---then pogroms are not called "riots"

Perhaps Georgie can tell me about the country in which muslims lived as a majority with a significant population of jews and in which there were NO POGROMS over to you, Georgie

 

[georgephillip]

Georgephillip: "...you notice settler terror attacks have increased at the same time Palestinian terrorism fell dramatically? ==== "According to UN investigations"


the palestinians have a terrorist organization in place as their "GOVERNMENT." like pebbles, i bet YOU "can't wait" either...

Assuming you live in the US, so do you, Rockie.

Millions of Muslim civilians have been murdered, maimed, displaced and incarcerated by the heroic US military since 2001.

How's that for Government by Terrorism?

 

[georgephillip]

"World War I. British civil administration in Palestine operated from 1920 until 1948. This administration was formalised with the League of Nations' consent in 1923 under the British Mandate for Palestine which covered two administrative areas. The land west of the Jordan River, known as Palestine, was under direct British administration until 1948, while the land east of the Jordan was a semi-autonomous region known as Transjordan, under the rule of the Hashemite family from the Hijaz, and gained independence in 1946."

Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So tell us, Georgie boy, who were the inhabitants of Trans Jordan. They were the Arabs weren't they, and they had to be under the rule of the Hashemites. Meanwhile, at the time it was the Jews who were considered the Palestinians and the Arabs in the area were called just plain Arabs or Syrians. Why not tell us who was manning the Palestine booth at the 1940 World's Fair in New York, and what was the previous name of the Jerusalem Post? Anyhow, take this up with Hamas........

Hamas leader admits 'Palestinian' identity is invented
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 | Ryan Jones

US Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich has come under a lot of fire for saying that the "Palestinians" are an invented people. Most have ridiculed Gingrich by pointing out there are clearly millions of Arabs living in so-called "Palestine."

But Gingrich wasn't talking about the physical presence of those people today, but rather the national identity they have adopted and the fact that most immigrated to the land not so long ago.

In a televised address on Al-Hekma TV last week, Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad basically backed up Gingrich's assessment, acknowledging that the roots of most "Palestinians" are elsewhere in the Middle East, and that the Palestinian label is only a thin veneer.

Those pushing for a Palestinian state try to paint the Palestinian Arabs as somehow distinct from the Arabs round-about, and therefore in need of their own state. Not so, said Hammad. "Every Palestinian, in Gaza and throughout Palestine, can prove his Arab roots - whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere. We have blood ties."

More than that, Hammad stated that the true regional background of most "Palestinians" is not in "Palestine."

"Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis," exclaimed the Hamas minister.

Hammad's remarks were undoubtedly never intended for a Western audience. Rather, he was pleading with Egypt and other neighboring states to supply Hamas-ruled Gaza with free fuel, which Hammad said Hamas would use "in order to continue to wage Jihad."

A geo-political entity called Palestine existed between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River in 1948. One third of the human beings within that entity were Jews. Two-thirds were not Jews. If the concept of self-determination applies, one third of the voters don't inflict a Jewish state upon the majority of human beings at the ballot box, do they?

Unless, of course, you're taking the Orthodox perspective on human beings...

 

[georgephillip]

The islamo nazi pig claim>>>>

BTW, Muslims would not be rioting today if one-third of the population of Mandate Palestine had not inflicted a Jewish state upon an Arab majority in 1948. Arabs resist an illegal occupation and Jews enforce it.


For those unfamiliar with islamo-nazi pig propaganda over the past more than 1000 years------keep in mind----the most important issue in all such propaganda is Libel---or more simply -----in this case---BLAME IT ALL ON THE JEWS (for the ku klux klan----the issue is "blame it all on the blacks---or at least most of it)

Way back in the early 1930s my own mother-in-law --- being at that time an "orphan" in that her father died when she was eleven-----faced enslavement and forced conversion to islam-----forced "being the sex slave" to the local muslim chieftain (in that area of the world called "imam")-----She was spirited out of the country (thru an ordeal lasting more than seven years) to palestine. Of course---given the right to so engage-----Muslims would not be rioting today Lets see how that FORCED partition of Sudan pans out------and whether those TENS OF THOUSANDS OF ENSLAVED CHRISTIAN CHILDREN can be rescued -------(georgie will be indignant if they are---to make georgie happy-------I will assure him------not ALL of the enslaved jewish children in the country in which my mother-in-law escaped-----got saved----there is a very interesting history of one------who managed to stay in contact thru the 1940s)


the basis for the enslavement of non muslim children is ISLAMIC LAW which grants "muslim guardianship" for any fatherless non muslim child. This is the law which makes enslavement of the children of murdered men and raped women LEGAL according to the laws of Khartoum. Georgie heartily supports the glorious idea because where muslims can IMPOSE it------they tend to riot less and where pogroms upon non muslims are not a "crime" ---then pogroms are not called "riots"

Perhaps Georgie can tell me about the country in which muslims lived as a majority with a significant population of jews and in which there were NO POGROMS over to you, Georgie

Now tell me what your alleged mother-in-law has to do with self-determination in Mandate Palestine circa 1948?

 

[Hossfly]

"World War I. British civil administration in Palestine operated from 1920 until 1948. This administration was formalised with the League of Nations' consent in 1923 under the British Mandate for Palestine which covered two administrative areas. The land west of the Jordan River, known as Palestine, was under direct British administration until 1948, while the land east of the Jordan was a semi-autonomous region known as Transjordan, under the rule of the Hashemite family from the Hijaz, and gained independence in 1946."

Mandatory Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So tell us, Georgie boy, who were the inhabitants of Trans Jordan. They were the Arabs weren't they, and they had to be under the rule of the Hashemites. Meanwhile, at the time it was the Jews who were considered the Palestinians and the Arabs in the area were called just plain Arabs or Syrians. Why not tell us who was manning the Palestine booth at the 1940 World's Fair in New York, and what was the previous name of the Jerusalem Post? Anyhow, take this up with Hamas........

Hamas leader admits 'Palestinian' identity is invented
Tuesday, April 03, 2012 | Ryan Jones

US Republican presidential candidate Newt Gingrich has come under a lot of fire for saying that the "Palestinians" are an invented people. Most have ridiculed Gingrich by pointing out there are clearly millions of Arabs living in so-called "Palestine."

But Gingrich wasn't talking about the physical presence of those people today, but rather the national identity they have adopted and the fact that most immigrated to the land not so long ago.

In a televised address on Al-Hekma TV last week, Hamas Minister of the Interior and of National Security Fathi Hammad basically backed up Gingrich's assessment, acknowledging that the roots of most "Palestinians" are elsewhere in the Middle East, and that the Palestinian label is only a thin veneer.

Those pushing for a Palestinian state try to paint the Palestinian Arabs as somehow distinct from the Arabs round-about, and therefore in need of their own state. Not so, said Hammad. "Every Palestinian, in Gaza and throughout Palestine, can prove his Arab roots - whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere. We have blood ties."

More than that, Hammad stated that the true regional background of most "Palestinians" is not in "Palestine."

"Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis," exclaimed the Hamas minister.

Hammad's remarks were undoubtedly never intended for a Western audience. Rather, he was pleading with Egypt and other neighboring states to supply Hamas-ruled Gaza with free fuel, which Hammad said Hamas would use "in order to continue to wage Jihad."

A geo-political entity called Palestine existed between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River in 1948. One third of the human beings within that entity were Jews. Two-thirds were not Jews. If the concept of self-determination applies, one third of the voters don't inflict a Jewish state upon the majority of human beings at the ballot box, do they?

Unless, of course, you're taking the Orthodox perspective on human beings...

Why, Georgie, your own people think that Allah transformed the Jews into apes and pigs. Meanwhile, Georgie, why not tell us how many Christians were living in places like Iraq and Egypt when Mohammed's gang took over and forced the people to convert, killing many who refused. You probably have no problem with any of the countries which were populated by the early Christians being taken over by the Muslims by force.

So tell us, Georgie, since there are so many millions more Kurds than the Palestinians, don't you think the Muslim countries like Turkey should finally give the Kurds some land of their own for their own country? Or are you prejudiced against the Kurds for some reason? And, Georgie, you are always forgetting that the Arabs came in droves prior to 1948 from their surrounding impoverished countries when the Jews had jobs for them. If the Jews had no jobs for them, these Arabs would have never left their poor countries and God only knows what would have happened to them. Maybe they would have dropped in the streets like the unfortunate Somalis are doing at present. By the way, Georgie, why not ask some of the Hispanics in your area why they left their countries. I don't think they came to Los Angeles for the weather, and I doubt that the Muslims leaving their countries now (especially those taking that perilous journey in boats that are not seaworthy) are going because they are interested in castles and other historic sites.

 

[Hossfly]

Georgephillip: "...you notice settler terror attacks have increased at the same time Palestinian terrorism fell dramatically? ==== "According to UN investigations"


the palestinians have a terrorist organization in place as their "GOVERNMENT." like pebbles, i bet YOU "can't wait" either...

Assuming you live in the US, so do you, Rockie.

Millions of Muslim civilians have been murdered, maimed, displaced and incarcerated by the heroic US military since 2001.

How's that for Government by Terrorism?

Why are you still here, Georgie, if you think the goverhment is so terrible here? Why not go back to your homeland where evidently you felt more at ease. Meanwhile, how about telling us where all this "millions" of people killed and displaced comes from. If so many outside insurgents who hated to see a democracy in Iraq would have stayed in their own countries instead of murdering so many Iraqis, Iraq might be a better place now. And, Georgie, just in the 20th century alone, your Muslim buddies have murdered millions and millions of people. Of course, this probably doesn't bother you at all.