The Warmergate Scandal

[Oddball]

PS, guys, this email doesn't tell you what you think it tells you...

What the email is saying to sex up the graph. You could consider that unethical, but that's not fabricating data. Furthermore, accepting your argument as valid (that they were where playing with the data), what decline was there to cover up? The email was written in 1999, which was the year after the hottest year on record.

There are scores of e-mails here that clearly show a pattern of abuse, destruction of contrary evidence, refusal to allow outside assessment of the "research" and outright collusion and conspiracy...Picking one out of the entirety and trying to use it as some sort of linchpin that debunks the rest is just plain daffy.

Though, not unexpected.

 

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From the Canada Free Press...


Hacked files of the Climatic Research Unit, Global Warming a deliberate fraud
The Death Blow to Climate Science


...Another glimpse into what the files and emails reveal was the report by Professor Deming. He wrote, “ With publication of an article in Science (in 1995) I gained sufficient credibility in the community of scientists working on climate change. They thought I was one of them someone who would pervert science in the service of social and political causes. So one of them let his guard down. A major person working in the area of climate change and global warming sent me an astonishing email that said. “We must get rid of the Medieval Warm Period.” The person in question was Jonathan Overpeck and his even more revealing emails are part of those exposed by the hacker. It is now very clear that Deming’s charge was precise. They have perverted science in the service of social and political causes.

Full article here:

The Death Blow to Climate Science

 

[Oddball]

There's hope for Canada yet.

 

[Oddball]

Climate science hijacked and corrupted by this small group of scientists

Dominant names involved are ones I have followed throughout my career including,

Phil Jones,

Benjamin Santer,

Michael Mann,

Kevin Trenberth,

Jonathan Overpeck,

Ken Briffa (Correction: that's KEITH Briffa) and

Tom Wigley.
I have watched climate science hijacked and corrupted by this small group of scientists. This small, elite, community was named by Professor Wegman in his report to the National Academy of Science (NAS).

Remember those names....Bookmark this post.

 

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A collection of responses from the Washington Post article - it appears folks on both sides of this issue are a wee bit upset...

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whifley wrote:
Senator Imhofe states it most succinctly about the global warming debate:

"We won, you lost, now get a life!"

AGW alarmism has always been bad assumptions forming bad models, backed by bad (now we know, manipulated) data.

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sophic wrote:
A famous quote from Liars:

"They took all my writings out of context"

Let see, how can you take the words "here's how we can the hide the data" out of context...

Only Obama's ignorant tingly legged voters could beleve that...

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I do just love that IPCC report. It picks 1750 as the start date. And then, OMG! The Earth is warming, and we don't know why!!!

Hello chicken little! The Maunder Minimum and The Little Ice Age!!! Sunspots disappeared, and the Earth Cooled! Sunspots reappeared, and the Earth Warmed!!! Moreover, we have 20th and 21st century data showing solar luminosity is hiring during sunspot peaks then during sunspot dearths.

In case you haven't heard of the subject, there's this little science known as astronomy. What the astronomers have found is that there is this class of stars called variable stars. Their output changes. Why, on God's Green Earth (assuming you believe in God), would you think that our sun would for some magical reason be quiescient, when many stars similar to ours aren't. Perhaps it is that variable solar output destroys your capitalism destroying scam.

What it really comes down to is all of you left wing pinko liberal socialist commies loathe people making money, loathe capitalism, and loathe our country. So, therefore, you invented this scam to try and crush our way of life. Not on my watch, LOSER!!!

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bob59 wrote:
Human caused global warming has been proven to be scientifically false.

However, it's politically correct. Al Gore stands to make nearly a billion dollars on his investment in "carbon credits".

Gore's movie was so scientifically inaccurate it was banned from schools in Europe.

Why did the last Ice Age melt away over 5,000 years ago? Was it caused by Bush, Big Business, or some other retarded talking point?

Global cooling of the 1970's turned into global warming in the 1990's. Wake up. It's an environmental scam costing trillions of dollars.
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Hackers steal electronic data from top climate research center - washingtonpost.com

 

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Climate science hijacked and corrupted by this small group of scientists

Dominant names involved are ones I have followed throughout my career including,

Phil Jones,

Benjamin Santer,

Michael Mann,

Kevin Trenberth,

Jonathan Overpeck,

Ken Briffa and

Tom Wigley.
I have watched climate science hijacked and corrupted by this small group of scientists. This small, elite, community was named by Professor Wegman in his report to the National Academy of Science (NAS).

Remember those names....Bookmark this post.

And I'll add Steig to that list simply because I have been hounding that case for the last year...


Victory Is Mine Steig!!!!!!

 

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And responses from the Wall Street Journal report...

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Frank Mcdougal wrote:
The comments released about massaging data are just the tip of the iceberg. I have read about 100 of the 1000 e-mails and everyone of them is damaging in some way. It is quite clear that massaging the data is an acceptable sceintific procedure in climate science. We are not talking about one or two e-mails taken out of context. They all show corruption and collusion!

I would suggest that anyone curious wanting to get the whole story try and find some place that still has the files for download. This is the greatest exposure of a coverup I have seen in my lifetime since watergate!

It will undoubtedly take weeks and motnhs for this information to trickle out onto the MSM.
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1:45 pm November 21, 2009
Dale Robertson wrote:
As India’s and China’s rapid industrialization has pumped massive amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, the actual measured earths average temperature has fallen into a down trend. So much for the radical concept of man made carbon dioxide disaster. The National Geographic Survey proclaims that this area where I live, was under 2500 feet of glacier, 10000 years ago, now it is quite nice. Thank God for the Global Warming we can get.
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11:20 am November 20, 2009
myself wrote:
These “scientists” even admits in those documents and emails that they have tinkered with the data. They also admit that there has been no sign of global warming in the last decade.
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11:35 am November 20, 2009
David wrote:
This is awesome. The guys who argue that the earth is warming and that it is being cause by human beings all have one thing in common. They only want you to read their summaries and never question or analyze any of their data, assumptions, or algorithms. Why? Because if people did see that stuff, they would come to one conclusion. AGW is a big lie!
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11:44 am November 20, 2009
Paul wrote:
Actually most of the emails fall into one of four categories:
(1) Efforts to rig the peer review process
(2) Efforts to to circumvent FOI laws
(3) Efforts to doctor data
(4) Efforts to mislead journalists


Hacked: Sensitive Documents Lifted from Hadley Climate Center - Environmental Capital - WSJ

 

[eots]

dude removing my post only makes you the same as the global warming dupes...just think of the magnitude of this conspiracy and the legions of so-called credible scientist that were so willing to say what their government handlers...then think of how easy fudging the 9/11 commission report or swine flu statistics would be...I mean really...think about it...it s not a derailment it is relevant to this subject which is in fact a grand conspiracy is it not ?

 

[Oddball]

And whining about deletion of an irrelevant post makes you a whiner.

Man up, stay on topic and revel in the allies you have when you can get them.

 

[eots]

OK fine but what about the polar bear on the chunk of ice ...did you see those big brown sad eyes. ?.. with photo ops like this is science really nessessary ?/

 

[Oddball]

Yeah...Thanks, Al.

Seriously, though...There are so many links upon links on the linked pages in this thread, that a voracious detective like you should be able to track down some stff the rest of us have missed.


Have at it, man.

 

[concept]

lol...
This is quite amazing.

It's going to take a while before all of this comes out.

The AGW weenies must be freaking out right about now trying to come up with some good spin to force feel the LSM.

 

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The AP is on board now.

And from this report we see the connecting dots - via the Goddard Institute?NASA, the US Center for Atmospheric Research, Mann, and the UK Climate Research Clinic - basically proof of the widespread collusion between government funded agencies and academic scientists to further promote a belief of global warming via manipulated data and worst-case-scenario model based projection.

This collusion was clearly rampant, and utterly repulsive to the concept of academic freedom and sound science. Naysayers were aggressively attacked, peer review became a sham, and a disengenous concept willingly promoted...

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...More than a decade of correspondence between leading British and U.S. scientists is included in about 1,000 e-mails and 3,000 documents posted on Web sites following the security breach last week.

Some climate change skeptics and bloggers claim the information shows scientists have overstated the case for global warming, and allege the documents contain proof that some researchers have attempted to manipulate data.

...In one leaked e-mail, the research center's director, Phil Jones, writes to colleagues about graphs showing climate statistics over the last millennium. He alludes to a technique used by a fellow scientist to "hide the decline" in recent global temperatures. Some evidence appears to show a halt in a rise of global temperatures from about 1960, but is contradicted by other evidence which appears to show a rise in temperatures is continuing.

...Jones wrote that, in compiling new data, he had "just completed Mike's Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (i.e., from 1981 onwards) and from 1961 for Keith's to hide the decline," according to a leaked e-mail, which the author confirmed was genuine.

One of the colleague referred to by Jones — Michael Mann, a professor of meteorology at Pennsylvania State University — did not immediately respond to requests for comment via telephone and e-mail.


Entire article here:

Hackers leak e-mails, stoke climate debate - Yahoo! News

 

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lol...
This is quite amazing.

It's going to take a while before all of this comes out.

The AGW weenies must be freaking out right about now trying to come up with some good spin to force feel the LSM.

You better believe it - and rest assured calls have already been made to higher ups in certain media outlets to hold off reporting fully to allow the climate mongers time to construct a strong defense of denial.

Don't forget, NBC/MSNBC/CNBC are owned by GE - an entity that has invested big time in the selling of the GO-GREEN anti-global warming -climate change economy...

 

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The secondary news reports are exploding on this issue - look for the mainstreamers to pick it up in earnest tomorrow and Monday...

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ClimateGate?
Recent news reports seems to confirm that suspected hackers have indeed hacked into the University of East Anglia Climate Research Center and published what some are claiming is a mushroom cloud of e-mail evidence that scientists are falsley manipulating data that overstate Anthropogenic (man-made) global warming. While some are decrying collusion, East Anglia has jumped on the defensive and released a statement claiming that some e-mails are being taken out of context. Other advocates say it's nothing more than scientific e-mail conversations with the overwhelming body of evidence pointing to man-made global warming.

In addition, Climatologists are puzzled as to why average global temperatures have stopped rising over the last 10 years" Even global warming supporter, Mojib Latif, a member of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change is reported to have stated that ""that we may indeed be in a period of cooling worldwide temperatures that could last another 10-20 years."

With billions at stake, the battle rages on and each side jockeys for position, we wonder will this be one of the most significant hacks in history or just a whole lotta hot air?

In the meantime, we'll just keep hoping that one day we'll see an accurate 10-day forecast.



Hackers prove Global Warming Hoax? - Roseville California News including Rocklin and Placer County

 

[Oddball]

lol...
This is quite amazing.

It's going to take a while before all of this comes out.

The AGW weenies must be freaking out right about now trying to come up with some good spin to force feel the LSM.

Even though the original source makes it clear that the informant is an insider, all the outlets I've come across are still sticking by the story that it was an outside hacker.

I wonder if Jon Lebowitz will correct this factual error on his comedy "news" program.

 

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lol...
This is quite amazing.

It's going to take a while before all of this comes out.

The AGW weenies must be freaking out right about now trying to come up with some good spin to force feel the LSM.

Even though the original source makes it clear that the informant is an insider, all the outlets I've come across are still sticking by the story that it was an outside hacker.

I wonder if Jon Lebowitz will correct this factual error on his comedy "news" program.

Predictable slant - but fortunately the onslaught of information appears overwhelming at this point.

You have been on the front lines of this debate ever since I started participating in this forum Dude - keep at it. Your instincts regarding the fraud that has been global warming are proving correct and I am grateful for you efforts...

 

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[code1211]

lol...
This is quite amazing.

It's going to take a while before all of this comes out.

The AGW weenies must be freaking out right about now trying to come up with some good spin to force feel the LSM.

Even though the original source makes it clear that the informant is an insider, all the outlets I've come across are still sticking by the story that it was an outside hacker.

I wonder if Jon Lebowitz will correct this factual error on his comedy "news" program.

Predictable slant - but fortunately the onslaught of information appears overwhelming at this point.

You have been on the front lines of this debate ever since I started participating in this forum Dude - keep at it. Your instincts regarding the fraud that has been global warming are proving correct and I am grateful for you efforts...

Weeellllll....

This IS an interesting twist, isn't it?

All of those blink comparators from Antony Watts now seem to be coming into greater clarity. Why has every recorded temperature before 1978 been lowered while every temperture after 1978 has been raised? Why has none of the Big Time Temperature analysis organizations commented on this and just let it stand while Dr. Hansen "Et Al" just keep on shoveling the brown snow?

Why have the "scientists" continuously refused to recognize what the data says and only parrot the "wait a little and the warming will restart" mantra.

Well, anyway, if we are going to hit that MIT predicted increase of 5 to 7 degrees by the end of this century, we should be about .5 degrees warmer right now than we were 10 years ago.

How're we doin'?

 

[Oddball]

From Yayhoo:

Two other American scientists named in leaked e-mails —

Gavin Schmidt of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, and

Kevin Trenberth, of the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research, in Colorado — did not immediately return requests for comment.

Hackers leak e-mails, stoke climate debate - Yahoo! News

Note how the AP also does its dead-level best to spin this as best they can for the "scientific" frauds.