The Virginia Tech Massacre, April 16th, 2007 Another Step In Removing USA Gun Rights

[NuclearWinter]

Rev. Jim Jones

As “News Commentary” on the Truthseeker website notes, Virginia Tech is an “active partner” with DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. In addition, the CIA actively recruits VT students, holding events the spook agency bills as “career information” sessions.

“News Commentary” claims “Blacksburg, VA houses a US government ABOVE TOP SECRET underground laboratory (in the side of a local Blacksburg mountain) that develops in conjunction with DARPA, weapons such as human robotic mind control programming.” A Google search, however, turns up no mention of mind control experiments, of course, but there is plenty of reference to the “ Deep Underground Science and Engineering Laboratory … 7,000 feet under Butt Mountain” in Blacksburg.

Part of the AMADEUS Project (Advanced MAnipulation for DEep Underwater Sampling), funded by the European Commission (i.e., the executive body of the one-world European Union), the Deep Underground Science and Engineering Laboratory, according to The Pit Bulletin (the newsletter of the Department of Mining and Minerals Engineering at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University), is designed for “military needs, ranging from unique designs for underground sporting arenas to storing various types of waste materials…. the AMADEUS team feel that the expanding world population is creating a demand for additional types of underground construction.”

As well, an “expanding world population” may call for the development of “perfect weapons” long sought by DARPA and the Pentagon, including avian influenza H5N1, an area of research at VT, according to Virginia Tech News (a Google reference points to a page that currently produces an SQL error).


Prince Phillip:

“If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels,”

 

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A resume posted on the VT Computer Science Department website by Robert G. Ball notes grants awarded to the university by ARDA/DTO, short for Advanced Research and Development Activity, Disruptive Technology Office. “ARDA was created in 1998 after the model of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) by the Director of Central Intelligence and the Department of Defense, and took responsibility for funding some of DARPA's projects,” explains Wikipedia . “There has been speculation that the DTO is continuing research efforts started under the Total Information Awareness program (TIA) in DARPA's Information Awareness Office (IAO)…. Although ARDA's budget is presumably classified as part of the intelligence budget, the New York Times quoted an unnamed former government official saying the agency spent about $100 million a year in 2003. The Associated Press reports that ARDA had a staff of only eight in 2004.” Early last year, I reported that DTO was to be run by John Negroponte.

Of course, all of this secret and not so secret activity on the Virginia Tech campus and environs doesn't just provide evidence that Cho Seung-Hui was a government produced mind-control assassin, but it also indicates that VT serves as a hub for experimental and prototype DoD technologies.

 

[NuclearWinter]

It is no secret the Pentagon has had a keen interest in electromagnetic weapons for some time. “Electronic mind-control research is not new,” CNN reported in 1985.“

A scientific milestone in this area came in the 1960s when Dr. Jose Delgado demonstrated remote control over a charging bull.” Military affairs specialist Chuck DeCaro told CNN: a “scientist, who did not want his identity revealed … employed by the U.S. Government … has done secret RF weapons research. He believes that tests done with the [Soviet developed] Lida and similar machines prove that humans are susceptible to remote alterations of mood and awareness….

Certain kinds of weak electromagnetic signals work exactly like drugs, and so the promise is that anything you can do with drugs you could do with the right electromagnetic signal.” Dr. Robert Becker, a pioneer in the field of bioeffects of electromagnetism, added: “As far as I'm concerned, the potential that this has for producing a direct psychoactive effect upon the total American population is there, has never been disproven.”

The late professor Dr. Gerhard Beyer of Virginia Polytechnic Institute at Virginia Tech broke a significant part of the “magnetic code,” and no doubt this was of interest to DARPA and the Pentagon.

 

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[NuclearWinter]

Im not sure that all of you have heard of the country of Belgium or even know where it's located. But I dont blame you if you don't, because it's one of the smallest countries in the World, its tucked in between Holland and France and its the place that is being tested as the perfect New World Order State by the Controllers. The capital Brussels is the capital of the European Union and the headquarters of NATO is also situated there.

Those who are monitoring the New World Order lately know that the following things are on the agenda of the NWO and they have already been instated in the country of Belgium:


1. A global tax on goods in relation with the ammount of carbon dioxide was emmitted for it's production.

2. The ID-card with the integrated RFID-chip has been instated in Belgium that will precede the RFID-chip implanted directly into the body.

3. And a very hot topic now; The ban on knifes and guns has been successfully instated by the NWO to disarm the population of Belgium.


Well...they have those already in Belgium folks. All introduced during the last 2 years.

The citizens of Belgium walk around with their shiny new ID-Card cards with the RFID-chip all the time. They pretty much have to.

The carbon dioxide-tax was launched in Belgium about a month ago. After the "inconvenient truth"-rage and after All-Gore met the prime minister of Belgium, while Mr.Gore was on his promo-tour, The tax was introduced as the "Al-gore tax".

And last but not least, everyone in Belgium had to hand over their guns they had in their homes and the people of Belgium are no longer able to walk around with a knife, a Swiss-pocket knife or even a boxcutter in their pockets.

The ban on guns was launched after two seperate incidents with a teenager going trough a rampage on the street shooting random people. Not as bloody as Waco, Columbine or Va but innocent people died (amongst them was a 3 year old) and the gun-ban was introduced within the hysteria that followed.

The same goes for the story for the ban on knifes. A few seperate incidents of stabbings amongst youngsters and while the hysteria lasted the ban was launched. Hey and what did u know...people are still getting stabbed there.

It seems that the country of Belgium is being used as a testing ground for all these laws. Why? I dont know... Maybe because Belgium is the place where the capital of the European Union is? Or where the headquarters for NATO is? To the rest of the World, all the new laws that have been passed in Belgium have stayed pretty unnoticed by the Global community and the rest of the World.

 

[NuclearWinter]

People...the NWO is in full swing. Don't sit around anymore and wonder about if it's real or not. Because it is. Now you need to ask yourself what you will do when they tell you that you are going to receive a national ID card with a chip inside it and that soon your body will be microchipped as well. How will you react to that?

What will we, the people of America do when certain members of our Government try to disarm us for their own agenda? Will we fight like men and women? Or will we lie down and cover our eyes and ears like scared little boys and girls?

And when they introduce a World Pollution Tax on the American people, and take even more money out of our paychecks, in order to bring us closer and closer to the days of slavery, where 100% of the money that the slaves made in the United States was taken from them by their masters, what will you do then?

People...what will you do? You do have a choice. You can bow down to the NWO, and possibly live for awhile longer under a brutal system of control, or...you can take option b...and get together with your friends and neighbors when the time comes, and fight for the freedoms that you have enjoyed for so long now, so that you may live in peace for the rest of your lives instead of a World of hell where there will be orders that are given by certain people and there will be orders that are taken by certain people. And you as a World citizen are the ones who will be taking them.

Make no mistake folks, all of that will be happening while your "Slave-masters" enjoy lavish lifestyles and hide out in the shadows laughing as they come up with even more ways to screw you.

 

[Diuretic]

Oh fuck off somewhere else, you're cluttering the threads with bullshit.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Oh fuck off somewhere else, you're cluttering the threads with bullshit.

I'm not talking shit at all. Check into the newly instated laws of Belgium yourself. I'm not your mommy OR your daddy.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Protection, Disarmament and Massacre


After the largest school shooting in American history, the massacre at Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University that has taken the lives of more than 30 students and faculty and injured many more, we can expect to hear calls for more regulations and controls on the weapons Americans are permitted to purchase, own and carry. Just a couple years after Clinton’s Assault Weapons ban lapsed, we will probably be bombarded with the consensus of most politicians, talking heads and journalists – especially on the left and in the respectable center – that what the Virginia Tech shootings show is the need for more gun laws.

In consideration of how the state actually operates in its supposed attempts to protect the people, let us return to the idea of gun control, one of the major mechanisms by which law enforcement is claimed to make us safer.

To challenge this assumption, and the corollary that more gun laws are a proper response to the Virginia Tech tragedy, will almost surely be seen as heartless and dense, especially at this time. For, despite one’s political leanings, should we not sympathize for the humanity of those killed, wounded and forever traumatized in this act of barbarism? Well of course we should. What has happened is the very negation of the principles of civilization and humanity. And just as some are formulating their answers to this horrible atrocity along the lines of recommending more government, it is reasonable to ask now how this happened.

 

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Handguns must be more closely watched, or banned outright, we will be told. Assault rifles and armor-piercing bullets will also be condemned, though they apparently had nothing to do with this crime, which seems to have been committed with two handguns – a 9 mm and a .22. The NRA will even be blamed for all this, even though that organization favors plenty of the existing gun laws and has been known to advocate their more stringent enforcement. Already, the Brady Campaign is blaming this on the number of rounds permitted in a magazine. Why shouldn't we concede that just a few “reasonable” measures are in order to keep guns out of the hands of the wrong people?

The truth is the polar opposite of what the gun control advocates will conclude. For what we have at Virginia Tech is just one more example of gun control and government protection failing miserably at their advertised goals, and in fact making such a massacre more likely to begin with.

 

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Back in early 2006, a plan in the Virginia legislature to allow for concealed carry on the state’s college campuses failed in subcommittee. A representative of Virginia Tech said that the bill’s defeat would make “parents, students, faculty and visitors feel safe on our campus.”

Perhaps it did make a lot of people feel safer. But the indisputable fact, which everyone should recognize by now, is that criminals don’t follow the law. Someone who is not going to obey laws against murder is not going to flinch at a law forbidding the carrying of weapons. And the notion that a gun law can eliminate weapons is just a fantasy, as any liberal who understands the failure of the drug war should by now see. Indeed, all these weapons prohibitions ever do is disarm those who are willing to follow the law, leaving them defenseless against criminals willing to break the law. Gun control rendered these students helpless, even as it did nothing to stop the killer.

 

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The mentality of dependence that the leviathan state encourages with its wars, welfare state, gun control and public schools has also made would-be victims feel helpless whenever confronted by an actual threat. Today, Americans generally trust the state to protect them. But this trust is completely misplaced. In 1999, when two students slaughtered a dozen of their schoolmates and a teacher at Columbine, the Swat Team hesitated for a crucial period of time before storming the building – even as a student held a sign in the window declaring that a victim was bleeding to death within.

Now let me be clear. I do not wish to understate the horror of what any victim of such savage violent crimes go through. But the startling common thread throughout these massacres is the degree to which the government has claimed total control and promised total security. Public high schools and many colleges have long been deemed gun-free zones, as if this actually protects anyone.

Airline security has long been the domain of the state, yet the state would do absolutely nothing to protect Americans on 9/11.

And at Virginia Tech, the students had the false sense of security that because the government had greatly restricted their own right to bear arms at a public facility, they would be safe. Yet for two full hours, the police failed to stop the assailant between the time he began shooting and the time he killed many others and then himself. And, again, we have no reason to necessarily expect it to have gone any better.

 

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In 2002, at Appalachian Law School in Virginia, a private institution, a school massacre was cut short when students resisted, one of them with a gun he had retrieved from his car. Yet, as some have pointed out, we hear little about such horrible crimes being stopped by private weapons ownership.

Millions of times a year, criminals are preempted by Americans wielding private weapons. Studies indicate that well over ninety percent of the time, private individuals defend themselves with guns without ever firing a shot. You compare this caution and success to the record of government agents, who, knowing they will usually get away with negligent or even malicious violence, are increasingly likely to use overwhelming force against the peaceful.

 

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On a fundamental level, gun control is actually in itself an act of gun violence. It is the use of force and threats of force against peaceful people for the purpose of depriving them of tools useful for self-defense. Surely, the state cannot pretend that such weapons do not have defensive purposes without admitting that the “defense” it says it provides us, domestically with armed police and internationally with the armed military, is a sham.

For the state to forbid others from having the same weapons it provides its own legions of armed forces at home and abroad, all funded through tax dollars, is the height of hypocrisy, as is the idea that pointing guns at peaceful people and hauling them off to jail if they violate gun control laws – which is what enforcement of such laws boils down to – is somehow a good way to combat gun violence.

 

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It is curious that certain people still defend the institution of gun control, which only monopolizes weapons in the hands of those least likely in a given crisis to have the opportunity to do good and most likely, historically speaking, to use them to do bad. Indeed, a look at the 20th century reveals a frightening pattern regarding weapons control: It preceded the major acts of genocide and government-led slaughter throughout the world.

The Nazis and Communists always required that their subjects be disarmed. Gun control doesn’t always result in concentration camps, but it is much harder to displace, oppress or exterminate undesirables without it.

In America’s own history, gun control has a legacy of racist tyranny –to disarm and thus control groups ranging from freed blacks to Italian immigrants (as was the case with the Sullivan Act). That gun control is a tool of the ruling class and a boon for private and political criminals should be obvious by now.

 

[NuclearWinter]

Gun control does not protect the innocent. It only renders the innocent all the more defenseless, empowers law enforcement in totalitarian ways, and facilitates the further construction of the police state. It is only one aspect of how the state claims to protect us, yet it only does the opposite.

 

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What Turns a Man Into a Monster?
Three days after the deadliest shooting rampage in American history, many are left wondering what could have possibly driven a seemingly bright young man to acts of such unspeakable evil. Was it violent video games? Rap music? Bush's tax cuts for the wealthiest one percent of Americans? Or was it the result of bad parenting, perhaps?

Highly unlikely. My childhood wasn’t exactly idyllic, but I would never dream of harming another human being. If someone put a gun into my hand, though, there’d be nothing to stop me from marching over to Mr. Caruther’s condo, kicking down his door, and popping a cap into his fat Repug ass.

“YOU MADE ME DO THIS CARUTHERS!” I’d scream at him. “YES, YOU!! WITH YOUR BIG FANCY SCHMANCY SUV AND YOUR SEMPER FI BUMPERSTICKER ON THE BACK AND RUSH FATTY PILLPOPPER BLARING FROM YOUR FANCY SCHMANCY CAR STEREO! I HATE YOU, CARUTHERS!!!! I HATE YOU, AND NOW YOU’RE GOING TO DIE, RIGHT HERE, IN YOUR POORLY DECORATED LIVING ROOM, YOU RIGHT-WING CHICKENHAWK!!!”

“No I’m not,” Caruthers would say.

“OH YES YOU ARE!” I’d insist.

“No I’m not,” he’d insist back.

“YES YOU ARE! YES YOU ARE! YES YOU ARE!”

“No I’m not,” he'd sigh, and go back to biting the heads off of puppies, or whatever it is that Repugs do when there aren't any Blacks around to lynch or poor people to screw over.

“OKAY, JUST SUPPOSING FOR A MOMENT THAT YOU’RE RIGHT," I'd offer, "EXPLAIN TO ME EXACTLY WHY YOU AREN’T GOING TO DIE LIKE THE NEOCON PIG YOU ARE.”

“Because you left the safety on,” he’d reply with that smug little smirk of his.

“NO I DIDN’T!” I’d say.

“Yes you did,” he’d insist, “and you’re holding the gun wrong. The barrel is supposed to point away from you.”

‘NO IT’S NOT!” I’d retort.

“Yes it is,” he’d volley.

‘NO IT’S NOT! NO IT’S NOT! NO IT’S NOT!”

“Fine then,” he’d relent. “Go ahead and pull the trigger.”

I’d hesitate for a moment, perhaps caught off guard by his utter stupidity, and he’d seize the moment to quickly snatch the gun from my fingers and pistol-whip me to a bloody pulp right there in his poorly decorated living room.

Mother would show up drunk at the funeral. She’d probably try to get into the preacher’s pants. Then she’d strip naked in front of everyone and start dancing around like she’s back at Woodstock until she clumsily knocked my casket over, spilling my pale, rotting cadaver onto the ground.

‘YOU BITCH!! YOU RUINED MY LIFE!”

But the blame for my terrible fate is not hers. It belongs to Bush and his NRA cronies for putting that gun into my hands. You see, it’s not one’s upringing, nor rap music, nor is it being bombarded with violent imagery since before he could crawl that turns a man into a monster. It’s not a culture lacking a moral compass that creates someone who could pick up a gun and murder 33 innocent people without any remorse. It’s George W. Bush.

But it’s also the mere existence and ready availability of guns that drives men to kill one another.

But mostly it’s Bush.

http://blamebush.typepad.com/

 

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There is no more important time to stand up for liberty than when crisis endangers it most. It is also an important time to reflect on how the state's culture of obedience, blind trust in authority, centralized control and individual disarmament has actually rendered us less secure against threats both foreign and domestic.

At a time when the Bush administration has suspended habeas corpus, has shredded the Fourth Amendment, and respects virtually no limits on its power, one would hope that the usual proponents of gun control who oppose the administration see the severe danger in letting it impose more controls on our lives, and wage more wars on the Bill of Rights, this time with the pretense of protecting us against gun violence.

The administration’s rounding up of private weapons in New Orleans after Katrina and Baghdad after the invasion of Iraq demonstrates its willingness to disarm populations when it is desirable and expedient from its point of view. The last thing we need is more support for further erosions of our liberty.

It is time for some clear thinking about the way government has used massacres and other crises to warm the people up to its expansion and encroachment on precious freedoms. As Virginia Tech on 4/16 should show as clearly as the hijacked planes on 9/11, big government, central planning, and the systematic violence of gun control do not stop massacres; they only enable them.

 

[JeffWartman]

You are mentally ill and you need to seek help immediately.

 

[NuclearWinter]

More and more Americans are waking up to the fact that something strange is definately going on. They start with that feeling, and then they begin to figure out the rest.

Politicians are pushing for things that Americans don't even want. The power is being switched from the citizens to the government that they created! It's becoming more and more of a catastrophe every single day.

Whether it be the Iraq war, Gun Control, North American Union, or National ID cards and future microchips none of this shit is what the American people want. It's what the Controllers want. And they are getting it slowly. We have to take a stand now. There is no time to wait. First comes the spreading the information part, and then eventually comes the rebellion of the citizens against tyranny.

I hope you guys have enjoyed your lives so far, because you may have to forfit them in the process of taking a stance to save Humanity from greed and Evil. It's either that, or they may be taken from you against your wills anyways when all this starts to go down.

Do you want to die in a prison cell slowly...or do you want to die fighting for your Freedoms and your Liberties? On your terms. Not theirs.