The US is about to make it a felony to support BDS! No, I'm not making this up!

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When the Bill is passed, the OP will have committed a felony.
Yes...we know that you are not a fan of the 1st Amendment.

This PROPOSED bill has NOTHING to do with 1st Amendment. Period. If IT DID -- I'd be against it.
Only applies to companies and individuals doing Intl Trade and Commerce. And EVEN THEN -- doesn't make it illegal for a US company to boycott Israel..

They are just restrained from engaging in activities to persuade OTHER COUNTRIES to enact specific laws to IMPLEMENT a BDS program..
 
"The bill seeks to expand the Export Administration Act of 1979 and the Export
-Import Bank Act of 1945 which, among other things, prohibit U.S. persons from
complying with a foreign government’s request to boycott a country friendly
to the U.S. The bill would amend those laws to bar U.S. persons from supporting
boycotts against Israel, including its settlements in the Palestinian Occupied
Territorie s, conducted by international governmental organizations, such as the
United Nations and the European Union. It would also broaden the law to
include penalties for simply requesting information about such boycotts.

Violations would be subject to a minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a
maximum criminal penalty of $ 1 million and 20 years in prison. We take no
position for or against the effort to boycott Israel or any foreign country, for that
matter. However, we do assert that the government cannot, consistent with the
First Amendment, punish U.S. persons based solely on their expressed political
beliefs .

This bill would impose civil and criminal punishmet on individuals solely
because of their political beliefs about Israel and its policies...."

ACLU Letter to the Senate Opposing Israel Anti-Boycott Act

ONLY individuals ENGAGED in Foreign Trade and Commerce as matter of BUSINESS..
 
You are SO out of your league here. READ Section 8A and WHOM it applies to. NOT PROTESTORS. NOT POLITICAL SPEECH, But individuals ENGAGED in INTL Commerce and Trade.

You're such a screaming baby....
You are a zionist liar who does not understand that this was amended to WHOEVER!

"WHOEVER" is not a precise legal term. Read Sec 8A -- Find out WHO is subject to any of this. It AIN'T ME and it ain't you Achmed. May I call you Achmed??

"U.S. person" is very clear and precise. I work with ITAR licensing regularly, and I know that "U.S. person" applies to me individually, not just my company.

"(a) Section 8(a) of the U.S. Export Administration Act of 1979, as amended ( 50 U.S.C. 2407(a)), prohibits compliance by U.S. persons with any boycott fostered by a foreign country against a country which is friendly to the United States and which is not itself the object of any form of boycott pursuant to United States law or regulation. The Boycott of Israel by Arab League countries is such a boycott, and therefore, the following actions, if taken with intent to comply with, further, or support the Arab League Boycott of Israel, are prohibited activities under the Export Administration Act:.."

48 CFR 652.225-71 - Section 8(a) of the Export Administration Act of 1979, as Amended.
 
Says right in the Bill Summary in the OP..

The bill prohibits U.S. persons engaged in interstate or foreign commerce from:

  • requesting the imposition of any boycott by a foreign country against a country which is friendly to the United States; or
  • supporting any boycott fostered or imposed by an international organization, or requesting imposition of any such boycott, against Israel.
 
You are SO out of your league here. READ Section 8A and WHOM it applies to. NOT PROTESTORS. NOT POLITICAL SPEECH, But individuals ENGAGED in INTL Commerce and Trade.

You're such a screaming baby....
You are a zionist liar who does not understand that this was amended to WHOEVER!

"WHOEVER" is not a precise legal term. Read Sec 8A -- Find out WHO is subject to any of this. It AIN'T ME and it ain't you Achmed. May I call you Achmed??

"U.S. person" is very clear and precise. I work with ITAR licensing regularly, and I know that "U.S. person" applies to me individually, not just my company.

"(a) Section 8(a) of the U.S. Export Administration Act of 1979, as amended ( 50 U.S.C. 2407(a)), prohibits compliance by U.S. persons with any boycott fostered by a foreign country against a country which is friendly to the United States and which is not itself the object of any form of boycott pursuant to United States law or regulation. The Boycott of Israel by Arab League countries is such a boycott, and therefore, the following actions, if taken with intent to comply with, further, or support the Arab League Boycott of Israel, are prohibited activities under the Export Administration Act:.."

48 CFR 652.225-71 - Section 8(a) of the Export Administration Act of 1979, as Amended.

They cannot FORCE a US company to buy Israeli goods. If you ADVERTISE it as a "politically motivated" feature to comply with BDS --- then your company MIGHT be subject to these terms. Or if you use the company to urge OTHER NATIONS to codify BDS --- then you're in the trouble zone..
 
You are SO out of your league here. READ Section 8A and WHOM it applies to. NOT PROTESTORS. NOT POLITICAL SPEECH, But individuals ENGAGED in INTL Commerce and Trade.

You're such a screaming baby....
You are a zionist liar who does not understand that this was amended to WHOEVER!

"WHOEVER" is not a precise legal term. Read Sec 8A -- Find out WHO is subject to any of this. It AIN'T ME and it ain't you Achmed. May I call you Achmed??

Whoever does apply to people doesn't it?

That's why it's directly against the 1st amendement.
 
Says right in the Bill Summary in the OP..

The bill prohibits U.S. persons engaged in interstate or foreign commerce from:

  • requesting the imposition of any boycott by a foreign country against a country which is friendly to the United States; or
  • supporting any boycott fostered or imposed by an international organization, or requesting imposition of any such boycott, against Israel.

And this is why it's against the 1st amendment.
 
support for Israel in both Houses and the American public is very high.
We need to get israel's agents out of our government, we agree there. HELL, THE WHOLE WORLD AGREES HERE.

As far as the American people, they are losing their patience and this is clear in the American jewish community as well. The bottom line here is that real Americans value free speech and this law CLEARLY VIOLATES OUR FIRST AMENDMENT.
Who is we, Achmed? You don't speak for the American people. The American people are sick and tired of BDS assholes like you infringing upon other people's freedoms.

No, we the American people are tired of people with dual allegiance like you that put Israel first, over the U.S.A.
Dream on, the American public overwhelmingly supports Israel, and has negative views of Palestinians.
 
A growing number of Republicans and Democrats in Congress are backing a bill that would criminalize support for the international boycott against Israel, also known as the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement.

Named the Israel Anti-Boycott Act, the bill so far has garnered support from 29 Republicans and 14 Democrats in the Senate. A similar piece of legislation introduced in the House of Representatives has 237 co-sponsors—63 Democrats and 174 Republicans. With the intent to suppress the BDS movement and others allied with the boycott against Israel, the Israel Anti-Boycott Act imposes harsh punishments: any person guilty of violating the law faces a “minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison."

The Israel Anti-Boycott Act was introduced by Democratic Sen. Benjamin Cardin on March 23 and was drafted with the help of AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, according to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency. In fact, passage of the bill was listed as one of the group’s top lobbying priorities for 2017.
Will the Federal Government Make It Illegal to Protest Israel?

This does NOT apply to individuals exercising political speech. Bill specifically calls out individuals engaged in COMMERCE and TRADE as the prohibited from pressuring other COUNTRIES to implement a BDS ENFORCEMENT policy.. And it just says there will be NO BDS Enforcement policy here in the USA.

Which is fine -- because the UN Res has no teeth as usual anyways to REQUIRE actions that affect trade.
OK, but corporations are people according to the assholes in our Supreme Court. They have the same right to boycott or call for boycott like anyone else.

Boycotts are a protected form of political speech. This bill was written by people who hate America and free speech.
 
A growing number of Republicans and Democrats in Congress are backing a bill that would criminalize support for the international boycott against Israel, also known as the boycott, divestment and sanctions movement.

Named the Israel Anti-Boycott Act, the bill so far has garnered support from 29 Republicans and 14 Democrats in the Senate. A similar piece of legislation introduced in the House of Representatives has 237 co-sponsors—63 Democrats and 174 Republicans. With the intent to suppress the BDS movement and others allied with the boycott against Israel, the Israel Anti-Boycott Act imposes harsh punishments: any person guilty of violating the law faces a “minimum civil penalty of $250,000 and a maximum criminal penalty of $1 million and 20 years in prison."

The Israel Anti-Boycott Act was introduced by Democratic Sen. Benjamin Cardin on March 23 and was drafted with the help of AIPAC, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, according to the Jewish Telegraphic Agency. In fact, passage of the bill was listed as one of the group’s top lobbying priorities for 2017.
Will the Federal Government Make It Illegal to Protest Israel?

This does NOT apply to individuals exercising political speech. Bill specifically calls out individuals engaged in COMMERCE and TRADE as the prohibited from pressuring other COUNTRIES to implement a BDS ENFORCEMENT policy.. And it just says there will be NO BDS Enforcement policy here in the USA.

Which is fine -- because the UN Res has no teeth as usual anyways to REQUIRE actions that affect trade.
OK, but corporations are people according to the assholes in our Supreme Court. They have the same right to boycott or call for boycott like anyone else.

Boycotts are a protected form of political speech. This bill was written by people who hate America and free speech.

I always cringe when Supreme Court Nominee PF Stumblebum issues his legal opinions.
 
If any American believes that we should have a law that can place an American in prison, for decades, for a simple moral decision, then please move to israel.

You would be perfect over there.
 
I am pro Israel, but not to the point that I think gutting the 1st Amendment on its behalf is worthwhile.
 
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“In what conceivable sense is it of benefit to Americans to turn them into felons for the crime of engaging in political activism in protest of a foreign nation’s government?"

Philip Weiss
 
Is it at least time to get israel's agents like aipac and the many who hold high positions within our government out of American politics?
 
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Is it at least time to get israel's agents like aipac and the many who hold high positions within our government out of American politics?

Within The Cult of Islamism, gee-had is a personal as well as collective duty.

I suppose we can expect nothing from you bellicose cowards.
 
Says right in the Bill Summary in the OP..

The bill prohibits U.S. persons engaged in interstate or foreign commerce from:

  • requesting the imposition of any boycott by a foreign country against a country which is friendly to the United States; or
  • supporting any boycott fostered or imposed by an international organization, or requesting imposition of any such boycott, against Israel.

And this is why it's against the 1st amendment.

You saying that there isn't a LIBRARY of regulations on Foreign Trade and Commerce?? INCLUDING countries mentioned by name?

Does not apply to political advocacy for individuals. They are free to stop buying any crap they desire..
 
You saying that there isn't a LIBRARY of regulations on Foreign Trade and Commerce?? INCLUDING countries mentioned by name?

Does not apply to political advocacy for individuals. They are free to stop buying any crap they desire..
But, an American citizen can be thrown in prison for decades for not wanting to support the now decades-running murder spree that israel created if this fascist law passes.

Correct?
 
You saying that there isn't a LIBRARY of regulations on Foreign Trade and Commerce?? INCLUDING countries mentioned by name?

Does not apply to political advocacy for individuals. They are free to stop buying any crap they desire..
But, an American citizen can be thrown in prison for decades for not wanting to support the now decades-running murder spree that israel created if this fascist law passes.

Correct?

No.. Not correct. You are free to have BDS rallies and support the boycott without EVER being affected by this.

If you learned how to actually read and STUDY an issue -- you wouldn't come off as a perpetually whining baby..
 
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