The UK is proving the failure of the rights ideas

[Blagger]

Why do you want to pretend a shrinking economy is a good thing for any country?


Read the article, this is about Fixing the mess the rights failed ideas caused with more of their failed ideas.

Britan is tanking because of the rights ideas, they keep pretending their ideas are good for the economy and their ideas keep causing messes.


When will you learn to get knew ideas that work instead of ideas that keep ******* things up?

No one in Europe is rightwing. Those that claim to be right are just less left then those that claim to be leftwng.

As for stimulus it is a proven fact that FDR PROLONGED the Depression. WW2 pulled us out not anything FDR did.

Apart from your own chest beating, do you have any evidence that can substantiate those ridiculous claims?

 

[California Girl]

Why do you want to pretend a shrinking economy is a good thing for any country?


Read the article, this is about Fixing the mess the rights failed ideas caused with more of their failed ideas.

Britan is tanking because of the rights ideas, they keep pretending their ideas are good for the economy and their ideas keep causing messes.


When will you learn to get knew ideas that work instead of ideas that keep ******* things up?

No one in Europe is rightwing. Those that claim to be right are just less left then those that claim to be leftwng.

As for stimulus it is a proven fact that FDR PROLONGED the Depression. WW2 pulled us out not anything FDR did.

Apart from your own chest beating, do you have any evidence that can substantiate those ridiculous claims?

The popularity surge of right wing politics in Europe is a result of decades of shit from liberal governments.

 

[Blagger]

No one in Europe is rightwing. Those that claim to be right are just less left then those that claim to be leftwng.

As for stimulus it is a proven fact that FDR PROLONGED the Depression. WW2 pulled us out not anything FDR did.

Apart from your own chest beating, do you have any evidence that can substantiate those ridiculous claims?

The popularity surge of right wing politics in Europe is a result of decades of shit from liberal governments.

Further encouraged by the unnecessary expansion of the self-aggrandising political obstacle known as the EU. It's original mandate was a good idea, but the liberal left hijacked and manipulated it into being a tool to achieve their (entirely unrealistic) social utopia of multiculturalism; and a place where you could - by and large - effectively absolve yourself of any responsibility for your actions.

Honestly, if France, Germany and the UK (the countries that drive the euroconomy) were to pull-out of the EU, the eurocrats in Brussels would choke to death on their muesli and croissants. And what a joyous day that would be.

 

[Anachronism]

Apart from your own chest beating, do you have any evidence that can substantiate those ridiculous claims?

How many Eurostates have a Right to Keep and Bear Arms? How many have a Right to Self-Defense (ie.. the use of deadly force)? How many have the right to carry a concealed weapon (even other than a firearm)?.... NONE that I am aware of. Especially your beloved UK. Therefore they cannot be anything other than bastions of Liberal stupidity.

 

[California Girl]

Apart from your own chest beating, do you have any evidence that can substantiate those ridiculous claims?

The popularity surge of right wing politics in Europe is a result of decades of shit from liberal governments.

Further encouraged by the unnecessary expansion of the self-aggrandising political obstacle known as the EU. It's original mandate was a good idea, but the liberal left hijacked and manipulated it into being tool to achieve their (entirely unrealistic) social utopia of multiculturalism; and a place where you could - by and large - effectively absolve yourself of any responsibility for your actions.

Honestly, if France, Germany and the UK (the countries that drive the euroconomy) were to pull-out of the EU, the eurocrats in Brussels would choke to death on their muesli and croissants. And what a joyous day that would be.

I agree. It has always dumbfounded me that this EU thing was not voted on. Back in the 70s (I think), Britain voted on an economic partnership (the ECC I think it was referred to)... no one voted for this union that has been forced on them. I don't understand why the Brits never fight it.

And the waste.... Oh. My. God. I cannot believe how wasteful this monstrosity is. It moves HQ every six months..... just because they can't agree on where it should be based. That's millions of taxpayers ££s on moving between two countries.... for absolutely no reason.

If I were a Brit, I think I'd vote UKIP.

And, don't get me started on this ridiculous AV thing. Even the three countries that use it are scrapping it.

 

[Blagger]

Apart from your own chest beating, do you have any evidence that can substantiate those ridiculous claims?

How many Eurostates have a Right to Keep and Bear Arms? How many have a Right to Self-Defense (ie.. the use of deadly force)? How many have the right to carry a concealed weapon (even other than a firearm)?.... NONE that I am aware of. Especially your beloved UK. Therefore they cannot be anything other than bastions of Liberal stupidity.

All of them.

 

[Anachronism]

All of them.

Oh, is that so? Last time I checked it is illegal for a private citizen to own a handgun in England. I KNOW it's not legal for them to carry it on the street as I do here in the US. I KNOW it's illegal for anyone to own a firearm in a military caliber in Italy.

I also know that you have or had several people in jail in England for defending their own homes or places of business with firearms. Including one gentleman who blew away one of the intruders into his home with a shotgun and injured the second, only to have the bobbies arrest HIM for unlawful use of deadly force IN HIS OWN HOME.

So unless the laws have changed QUITE RECENTLY (and I doubt that); you're full of it.

 

[California Girl]

All of them.

Oh, is that so? Last time I checked it is illegal for a private citizen to own a handgun in England. I KNOW it's not legal for them to carry it on the street as I do here in the US. I KNOW it's illegal for anyone to own a firearm in a military caliber in Italy.

I also know that you have or had several people in jail in England for defending their own homes or places of business with firearms. Including one gentleman who blew away one of the intruders into his home with a shotgun and injured the second, only to have the bobbies arrest HIM for unlawful use of deadly force IN HIS OWN HOME.

So unless the laws have changed QUITE RECENTLY (and I doubt that); you're full of it.

That isn't what you asked, you asked how many states could keep and bear arms. All can and do. It's their military. Their gun laws for individuals are different to ours... because that right is written into our Constitution. Idiot.

 

[Blagger]

All of them.

Oh, is that so? Last time I checked it is illegal for a private citizen to own a handgun in England. I KNOW it's not legal for them to carry it on the street as I do here in the US. I KNOW it's illegal for anyone to own a firearm in a military caliber in Italy.

I also know that you have or had several people in jail in England for defending their own homes or places of business with firearms. Including one gentleman who blew away one of the intruders into his home with a shotgun and injured the second, only to have the bobbies arrest HIM for unlawful use of deadly force IN HIS OWN HOME.

So unless the laws have changed QUITE RECENTLY (and I doubt that); you're full of it.

I was broadly replying to an even broader statement. In any case, I suggest you check your facts before next submitting. It isn't illegal to own a handgun in the UK. It is illegal to own a self-loading handgun that uses a self-contained cartridge. The circumstances surrounding the deaths of two pikeys at the hands of Tony Martin were hazy to say the least, although I'll concede that I supported his actions (in principle) and new evidence has now come to light that supports the claim that he opened fire under duress and in self defense.

I have no idea what the current firearms law stipulates in Italy, nor do I care, to be honest.

That said. I understand that in my reply to you in the flame zone thread in which we both locked horns last night I hurt your feelings. Please don't distract from the OP in an attempt to redress what occured yesterday.

 

[Colin]

Why do you want to pretend a shrinking economy is a good thing for any country?


Read the article, this is about Fixing the mess the rights failed ideas caused with more of their failed ideas.

Britan is tanking because of the rights ideas, they keep pretending their ideas are good for the economy and their ideas keep causing messes.


When will you learn to get knew ideas that work instead of ideas that keep ******* things up?

Quite the expert on the UK I see...NOT! It wasn't the right that fucked our economy! It was the last Labour government who like any left wing administration only knows one thing...SPEND SPEND SPEND! Britain faces a grim future thanks to Labour’s borrowing. Families are facing a bill of more than £2,000 just to pay the interest on Labour’s debt. Our country will have to spend more on paying off the interest on the debt than on almost anything else. More than on the police. More than on prisons. More than on schools.

Suggest you stick to topics you know something about. You clearly know **** all about Britain.

 

[Colin]

Why do you want to pretend a shrinking economy is a good thing for any country?


Read the article, this is about Fixing the mess the rights failed ideas caused with more of their failed ideas.

Britain is tanking because of the rights ideas, they keep pretending their ideas are good for the economy and their ideas keep causing messes.


When will you learn to get knew ideas that work instead of ideas that keep ******* things up?

Britain is tanking because of too many social programs,same as here. Socialism throughout history never works because it bankrupts Governments. Socialism is the Lefty's ideas.
You can't have half of the nation taking from Government and only have half of the nation paying for it.

Another professing to know all, when in fact you know **** all!

 

[California Girl]

Why do you want to pretend a shrinking economy is a good thing for any country?


Read the article, this is about Fixing the mess the rights failed ideas caused with more of their failed ideas.

Britan is tanking because of the rights ideas, they keep pretending their ideas are good for the economy and their ideas keep causing messes.


When will you learn to get knew ideas that work instead of ideas that keep ******* things up?

Quite the expert on the UK I see...NOT! It wasn't the right that fucked our economy! It was the last Labour government who like any left wing administration only knows one thing...SPEND SPEND SPEND! Britain faces a grim future thanks to Labour’s borrowing. Families are facing a bill of more than £2,000 just to pay the interest on Labour’s debt. Our country will have to spend more on paying off the interest on the debt than on almost anything else. More than on the police. More than on prisons. More than on schools.

Suggest you stick to topics you know something about. You clearly know **** all about Britain.

We're still waiting to find out what topic it is that TM actually knows about. Her opinions are formed by MediaMatters and the HuffPuff.

 

[Anachronism]

I was broadly replying to an even broader statement. In any case, I suggest you check your facts before next submitting. It isn't illegal to own a handgun in the UK. It is illegal to own a self-loading handgun that uses a self-contained cartridge. The circumstances surrounding the deaths of two pikeys at the hands of Tony Martin were hazy to say the least, although I'll concede that I supported his actions (in principle) and new evidence has now come to light that supports the claim that he opened fire under duress and in self defense.

Sorry but muzzle-loaders and flintlocks are not effective modern self-defense tools. Therefore, the effective handguns for self-defense ARE illegal.

Someone's on my property without an invitation they're likely to get shot. Regardless of what they're doing or not doing. Mr. Martin shouldn't even have been questioned. They were on his property without his consent, one got dead and the other got hurt. Too bad.

I have no idea what the current firearms law stipulates in Italy, nor do I care, to be honest.

I do. I happen to have a couple friends over there who are competition shooters and people from the States who go over there to shoot occasionally.

That said. I understand that in my reply to you in the flame zone thread in which we both locked horns last night I hurt your feelings. Please don't distract from the OP in an attempt to redress what occured yesterday.

LOL. I don't have feelings to get hurt, Swagger. That part of my brain and my heart died years ago. IF I'd even cared about your comments last night you'd already be on Ignore.

 

[peach174]

Read some History Colin.
I am not a know it all but I do know history.

 

[Colin]

Apart from your own chest beating, do you have any evidence that can substantiate those ridiculous claims?

How many Eurostates have a Right to Keep and Bear Arms? How many have a Right to Self-Defense (ie.. the use of deadly force)? How many have the right to carry a concealed weapon (even other than a firearm)?.... NONE that I am aware of. Especially your beloved UK. Therefore they cannot be anything other than bastions of Liberal stupidity.

Ever thought how many of us want to carry arms. ****!

 

[Colin]

Read some History Colin.
I am not a know it all but I do know history.

I don't need to refer to history to know why our economy is in the shit it is. See my previous post!

 

[California Girl]

Read some History Colin.
I am not a know it all but I do know history.

You know jack shit about Britain.

 

[Blagger]

I was broadly replying to an even broader statement. In any case, I suggest you check your facts before next submitting. It isn't illegal to own a handgun in the UK. It is illegal to own a self-loading handgun that uses a self-contained cartridge. The circumstances surrounding the deaths of two pikeys at the hands of Tony Martin were hazy to say the least, although I'll concede that I supported his actions (in principle) and new evidence has now come to light that supports the claim that he opened fire under duress and in self defense.

Sorry but muzzle-loaders and flintlocks are not effective modern self-defense tools. Therefore, the effective handguns for self-defense ARE illegal.

Someone's on my property without an invitation they're likely to get shot. Regardless of what they're doing or not doing. Mr. Martin shouldn't even have been questioned. They were on his property without his consent, one got dead and the other got hurt. Too bad.

I have no idea what the current firearms law stipulates in Italy, nor do I care, to be honest.

I do. I happen to have a couple friends over there who are competition shooters and people from the States who go over there to shoot occasionally.

That said. I understand that in my reply to you in the flame zone thread in which we both locked horns last night I hurt your feelings. Please don't distract from the OP in an attempt to redress what occured yesterday.

LOL. I don't have feelings to get hurt, Swagger. That part of my brain and my heart died years ago. IF I'd even cared about your comments last night you'd already be on Ignore.

You never said/wrote anyting on what defines an "effective modern self-defense tool". You proclaimed that handguns are illegal to be privately owned. They aren't, and I demonstrated as such. Back-peddling into distractive, diversionary avenues won't erase the fact that you were wrong. And you can use whatever you want to defend yourself and your property. It makes no difference to me, but I never claimed to care, either.

I agree entirely on your sentiments regarding Tony Martin. They had no business being on his land. One of them paid with his life. Too bad indeed.

Unlike others, being placed on your ignore list is of no consequence to me. Ignore away.

 

[peach174]

So you think that Socialism works?
Tell me where and when it has worked, that has not caused certain programs to become unsustainable?

 

[peach174]

Read some History Colin.
I am not a know it all but I do know history.

You know jack shit about Britain.

Why do you think I don't know British history.
I was talking about socialism, about the programs that become unsustainable (throughout history, for all countries that have tried socialism). Not the history of Britain.