The Trump peace plan is doomed to fail

[JoeB131]

You have a serious case of hating Jews

The nations Israel has fought wars against were trying to overrun Israel

Not true. Most of the attacks Israel has launched have been unprovoked. The only times you could argue they were truly "defending" themselves were the 1948 and 1973 wars. All the others... they attacked first or launched disproportionate responses to minor incidents.

It was sink or swim for the Jews and to the shock of Godless libs everywhere Israel keeps on winning

And always will

Nope. Zionism is going to eventually fail just like the Crusader States did.

 

[Mac-7]

Not true. Most of the attacks Israel has launched have been unprovoked. The only times you could argue they were truly "defending" themselves were the 1948 and 1973 wars. All the others... they attacked first or launched disproportionate responses to minor incidents.




Nope. Zionism is going to eventually fail just like the Crusader States did.

So, if the US Navy had discovered the Japanese fleet just hours away from Hawaii on Dec 7th it would be wrong yo launch a preemptive strike against them as Israel did against the arabs in 1967?

Only in Lib La La Land

 

[JoeB131]

So, if the US Navy has discovered the Japanese fleet just hours away from Hawaii on Dec 7th it would be wrong yo launch a preemptive strike against them as Israel did against the arabs in 1967?

NOt really comparable.

If anything, in that scenario, the Israelis were more like the Japanese, launching a sneak attack to seize territory.

 

[gtopa1]

NOt really comparable.

If anything, in that scenario, the Israelis were more like the Japanese, launching a sneak attack to seize territory.

You just want dead Jews; you're another hamas wannabe. Pathetic!!!

Greg

 

[Man With A Plan]

Simple-minded question for anyone who knows the definition of ethnic cleansing:

"What 'ethnic cleansing' means (short)​

"The term is commonly used to mean rendering an area ethnically homogeneous by removing a particular group through force or intimidation — including deportation/forcible transfer, killing, destruction of property, threats, or actions designed to make return impossible.

"While 'ethnic cleansing' is not itself a stand-alone treaty crime, forcible transfer/deportation and widespread persecution are crimes against humanity under international law."

ChatGPT: "Is there evidence of Israeli ethnic cleansing in Palestine?"

In case you're actually as ignorant as your posts suggest, the greedy, racist Jews who control Israel's government have currently stolen 50% and Gaza, and they are intent on acquiring the remaining land by mass killing, forcible transfer, destruction of property, or taking actions designed to make return impossible.

I ask the question again, Georgie...why do you think Israel feels the need to control the border of Gaza?

 

[Man With A Plan]

Tell me which part of Gaza Israeli drones are not covering.

Hamas is dealing with the criminals who supported the Israeli occupation of Gaza by stealing aid and selling it on the black market.

Israel has been occupying Gaza since 1967 in violation of international law; Hamas is a legitimate national resistance movement to Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine.

Hamas is the group that was stealing aid and selling it the black market, Georgie! The fact that you can't grasp that says volumes about how clueless you are about Gaza!

 

[georgephillip]

I ask the question again, Georgie...why do you think Israel feels the need to control the border of Gaza?

For the second (and last time) Israel controls Gazan borders as a means to an end of completing the Zionist policy of ethnically cleansing Palestine of its indigenous population in pursuit of Greater Israel.

ChatGPT can help you learn the basics about Israel's ethnic cleansing in Palestine:

"Historical evidence (1948)​

• "Archive-based historians have documented mass expulsions and flight of Palestinians in 1947–49 (the Nakba), with evidence of expulsions, village destructions and plans/operations carried out by Zionist/Israeli forces. Ilan Pappé argues the 1948 removals were a planned ethnic-cleansing campaign; Benny Morris’s archival research documents many forced expulsions and atrocities (Morris differs from Pappé on whether there was a single centralized plan, but he does document expulsions and massacres). These books and archival studies are foundational sources for the claim that ethnic-cleansing-type practices occurred in 1948. Wikipedia+1

"Evidence since 1967 (occupation, settlements, demolitions, displacement)..."​

 

[georgephillip]

Hamas is the group that was stealing aid and selling it the black market, Georgie! The fact that you can't grasp that says volumes about how clueless you are about Gaza!

Who told you Hamas was stealing aid and selling it on the black market, greedy, racist, genocidal Israeli Jews?

 

[Lisa558]

You just want dead Jews; you're another hamas wannabe. Pathetic!!!

Greg

It’s surreal, really. That antisemite complains about Jews launching a “sneak attack” when, in reality, the Islamic savages launched a sneak attack, on a major Jewish holiday, into a civilian kibbutz to chop of babies’ heads and burn toddlers alive - unless of course they kidnapped them in order to make them suffer for a month before choking them to death.

 

[Lisa558]

For the second (and last time) Israel controls Gazan borders as a means to an end of completing the Zionist policy of ethnically cleansing Palestine of its indigenous population in pursuit of Greater Israel.

ChatGPT can help you learn the basics about Israel's ethnic cleansing in Palestine:

"Historical evidence (1948)​

• "Archive-based historians have documented mass expulsions and flight of Palestinians in 1947–49 (the Nakba), with evidence of expulsions, village destructions and plans/operations carried out by Zionist/Israeli forces. Ilan Pappé argues the 1948 removals were a planned ethnic-cleansing campaign; Benny Morris’s archival research documents many forced expulsions and atrocities (Morris differs from Pappé on whether there was a single centralized plan, but he does document expulsions and massacres). These books and archival studies are foundational sources for the claim that ethnic-cleansing-type practices occurred in 1948. Wikipedia+1

"Evidence since 1967 (occupation, settlements, demolitions, displacement)..."​

You antisemitic asshole. The Jews VACATED Gaza 20 years ago, and provided the Jew-hating Muslims with free water….free fuel….free electricity. On top on that, the Gazans were getting tens of millions of dollars a MONTH to help them build up their communities to a civilized level.

So what did they do? Continue to try to kill as many Jews as they could, culminating in Oct 7.

 

[Lisa558]

Tell me which part of Gaza Israeli drones are not covering.

Hamas is dealing with the criminals who supported the Israeli occupation of Gaza by stealing aid and selling it on the black market.

Israel has been occupying Gaza since 1967 in violation of international law; Hamas is a legitimate national resistance movement to Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine.

The Israeli “occupation” of the land the Jews won when Egypt attacked them in ‘67 ended in 2005.

You are such a Jew-hating liar.

 

[Lisa558]

Tell me which part of Gaza Israeli drones are not covering.

Hamas is dealing with the criminals who supported the Israeli occupation of Gaza by stealing aid and selling it on the black market.

Israel has been occupying Gaza since 1967 in violation of international law; Hamas is a legitimate national resistance movement to Israel's illegal occupation of Palestine.

OMFG. You don’t think Israel should be able to monitor what the HAMAS demons are doing? Just let them regroup and launch another Oct 7?

I don’t know how much HAMAS Propaganda Central is paying you, but you will pay for the lies and hate you’re spreading - in a spot in Hell.

 

[Lisa558]

I ask the question again, Georgie...why do you think Israel feels the need to control the border of Gaza?

Pick me! Pick me! (Waves hand up….)

Because if they don’t, we get another Oct 7. And another, and another. And another.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Who told you Hamas was stealing aid and selling it on the black market, greedy, racist, genocidal Israeli Jews?

You mean those same "greedy, racist, genocidal Israeli Jews" that provided aid to the civilians of Gaza even though those citizens cheered the slaughter of innocent Israelis? (eye roll)

Name another country engaged in genocide against another people who provided them food and medicine while they were doing so! I'll wait...

 

[Man With A Plan]

For the second (and last time) Israel controls Gazan borders as a means to an end of completing the Zionist policy of ethnically cleansing Palestine of its indigenous population in pursuit of Greater Israel.

ChatGPT can help you learn the basics about Israel's ethnic cleansing in Palestine:

"Historical evidence (1948)​

• "Archive-based historians have documented mass expulsions and flight of Palestinians in 1947–49 (the Nakba), with evidence of expulsions, village destructions and plans/operations carried out by Zionist/Israeli forces. Ilan Pappé argues the 1948 removals were a planned ethnic-cleansing campaign; Benny Morris’s archival research documents many forced expulsions and atrocities (Morris differs from Pappé on whether there was a single centralized plan, but he does document expulsions and massacres). These books and archival studies are foundational sources for the claim that ethnic-cleansing-type practices occurred in 1948. Wikipedia+1

"Evidence since 1967 (occupation, settlements, demolitions, displacement)..."​

Israel controls the Gaza border because Hamas has been launching terror attacks against Israeli civilian targets for decades. They built walls to keep the terrorists out and Hamas dug terror tunnels under those walls.

The Palestinians "displaced" in 1948 could have returned to Israel following the Israeli victory! The only thing that kept that from happening was their refusal to accept Israel as a sovereign nation. 150,000 Palestinian Arabs remained in Israel and became Israeli citizens. How many Jews were allowed to stay in Gaza?

 

[georgephillip]

The Palestinians "displaced" in 1948 could have returned to Israel following the Israeli victory! The only thing that kept that from happening was their refusal to accept Israel as a sovereign nation.

Got a link?

Palestinians were not allowed to return to their homes, farms, and businesses in 1948, and the same racist pattern is repeating on the West Bank and in Gaza today.

 

[struth]

I don't believe you know what self-determination is.

GoogleAI Overview:

"Political self-determination is the right of a people to choose their political destiny and freely determine their form of government without external coercion.

"This principle is a cornerstone of modern international law, enshrined in the United Nations Charter and other human rights covenants."

Israeli Jews are denying self-determination to all non-Jews on the West Bank and Gaza; there is no one denying Jews their own freedom to determine their form of government without external coercion.

More lies. They are only denying it to Hamas, that’s why Hamas is killing palistinans and you don’t care because you are pro Hamas

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Trump peace plan is doomed to fail​

Of course it is.
Hamas and its Jew--hating allies will not stop until they destroy Israel; any "peace plan" they agree to is nothing more than a cease-fire which allows them to rebuild.
If you do not understand this, you clearly are not paying attention.

 

[M14 Shooter]

So, if the US Navy had discovered the Japanese fleet just hours away from Hawaii on Dec 7th it would be wrong yo launch a preemptive strike against them as Israel did against the arabs in 1967?

There was no per-emptive attack.
The Egyptians blockaded an Israeli port - an act of war.
Israel responded to the blockade by engaging Egypt.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Got a link?

Palestinians were not allowed to return to their homes, farms, and businesses in 1948, and the same racist pattern is repeating on the West Bank and in Gaza today.

Do you understand why the Israelis wouldn't want those Palestinians who left so that the 5 Arab armies poised on the borders of Israel in 1948 could destroy Israel to come back into the country while those countries were still refusing to acknowledge Israel's right to exist? Interesting that they treated the 150,000 Palestinians who STAYED in Israel so well all things considered! They became citizens of Israel. So how many Jews were treated that way in Gaza, Georgie?